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Love and Marriage: Sugars Don’t ‘Settle’



Sugar Daddies & Babies often share a common thread…

(ambition, drive, and/or high standards)?

About 50% of SD’s are married, and the majority of the other half are unabashedly single.

There are many reasons why single men and women choose the sugar lifestyle; most are in school or have demanding jobs that require extensive travel, so making ‘arrangements’ as opposed to delving into the waters of conventional dating might is preferred by many upwardly mobile student or money maker.

The question is: where’s the ‘LOVE’?

Well, if you think about it, does marriage = love? Is love not a feeling of mutual happiness? No, it’s not easy to define, but for far too long that 4 letter word has been the most frequently used tool for manipulation and obligation – a means for control.

Sugar is love without conditions… unconditional love. These relationships are based on complete honesty – without the binding ties of un-meetable expectations, or guilt-driven obligations.

“O stretch your hands across the sea,”
The impassioned lover cries,
“Stretch them towards your harm and me.
Our grass is green, and sensual our brief bed,
The stream sings at its foot, and at its head
The mild and vegetarian beasts are fed.”
So the impassioned lover cries
Till the storm of pleasure dies:
From the bedpost and the rocks
Death’s enticing echo mocks,
And his voice replies.
The greater the love, the more false to its object,
Not to be born is the best for man;
After the kiss comes the impulse to throttle,
Break the embraces, dance while you can.”
W.H. Auden

Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?

What are your thoughts on ‘settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ‘settle-down’?

Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?

Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?

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382 Responses to “Love and Marriage: Sugars Don’t ‘Settle’”

  1. Ludlam says:

    Nice post. There’s a similar topic thats related to this in Yahoo answers or Google groups, I think. I’ll find the link and post it back here.

  2. Knoerzer says:

    I agree with you 99% but wonder if you have really looked at the whole picture. DOn’t mean to be critical just food for thought.

  3. Milka Fhernindez says:

    Hi. This is all about taste. I completely agree with you regarding \”Sugar Daddies & Sugar Babies Don’t ‘Settle’?\”, but I think you are in the thin line of thinling. Don\’t you? Maybe you can try hershey foods target market

  4. Camilla says:

    Thanks Gordon and sweetredhead for the advice. =)

  5. sweetredhead says:

    I agree with Gordon. Its good advice. Never compromise, know what you want. If a Sd gives you a gut feeling good or bad, trust it. Talk to them before you meet, get things out in the open. Your profile should be honest with a recent picture. Never be who you are not.

  6. Gordon says:


    The sbs here can better answer your first question. I do remind you to protect your safety. Don’t give up too much personal information until you are comfortable. For a first meet, make it in a public place.

    As a sd I can tell you we all have personal taste on body types, hair color, race, height, education etc. Present your best qualities, be honest about your faults. There is a sd out there looking for you.

    In your profile tell what you are looking for. married/unmarried, height and age bracket. If you are looking for someone under 45, put it in there or don’t get mad at the 60yos who write.

    Be as flexible as you can without giving up your standards and fun with your search.

  7. Camilla says:

    Hey there! I’m sure this is completely off topic, but I’m brand new to the site and just had a question.. First off, can anyone give me some tips on how to avoid being used/taken advantage of/spot a player? Its my first time on a SD site, but I’ve used other dating sites that are only full of men trying to get in my pants. Also, what kind of body does a SD expect a SB to have? By no means am I overweight, but my body is not supermodel gorgeous either. Does it just depend on the person, or is an SB just expected to gorgeous? Lol, sorry about all the questions! Some feedback would be nice though. =)

  8. DDubs says:

    thanks everyone for the responses.

    I am in Texas starting the 25th of January for a full week (Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, and Houston)…then, its off to Minnesota and Wisconsin the following week (ugh, not looking forward to that one)…

    I will continue the search. At least I’m home in Upstate New York this week.

    and…Anchor Bar or Pearl Street Brewery are my favorite Buffalo spots for wings. Duff’s is more of a chain kinda place…good, but not great…IMO

  9. dreamer says:

    Gail, Im hiding. Ill always anwser your emails, tho. I think I have a crush on Gordon.. Ill muck out a stall and groom if you will take me riding. I cannot find anyone to ride with anymore 🙁

  10. sweetredhead269443 says:

    [email protected], wrong blog ya dork 🙂

  11. stephan says:

    dorks are welcome here 😉

  12. BlkButtafly says:

    yeaaaa….he’s out of my usual age range that I try to stay in. He’s 58. But I was like eh if we hit off hey I don’t mind the age part….but everything about him was starting to push me away more and more….even to the point where he was forgetting what i said and i was like uhhhh

  13. lisa says:

    100 a visit, minus motel, wow 50 bucks, how generous and I bet he wants to spend alot of time with you, hours, lol
    I had one guy a long time a go who wanted to see me for two days a week when he came into town and planned to stay at my place and give me 500 a month. yeah right!
    best to delete him, he is super tacky and any man who deducts hotel rooms from allowances is just plain cheap.

  14. sweetredhead269443 says:

    That’s just WRONG! I really don’t know why some of these men actually come to this site or what they think it is. Maybe they should read the description before posting a profile under false pretenses.

  15. BlkButtafly says:

    Actually it’s less than that since I don’t have my own place right now so the motel room cost ($50 with AARP LOL) takes away from the money gift he said

  16. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Sounds like he is on the wrong site. $100 a visit was does that sound like to you? I know what it sounds like to me….

  17. BlkButtafly says:

    LOL I think he’s gone. I told him I had some friends that were experienced SBs and I wanted their opinion.

  18. sweetredhead269443 says:

    BlkButtafly a $100 a visit? tell him to call 1800- rent a chick lmao

  19. BlkButtafly says:

    Awww thanx Yasmine!

  20. Yasmine says:

    Black Buttafly i just saw your profile. You are very cute!!! I love your hair!

  21. Yasmine says:

    Thanks Sam..I remember your profile..I liked it but i was too afraid to send you a message ( I thought you would not replyn 🙁 )

  22. BlkButtafly says:

    ok so I just received an offer from a potential SD that lives in my city. Now I’m a true SB and not in it for the money. So far we’ve clicked a little and he wants to see me every week for $100 per visit. I’m like uhhh. What should I do? How should I respond?

  23. lisa says:

    Good afternoon everyone. I think alot of sbs ask for cash first because they are afraid of being used. I see post on this blog where people talk about making out with someone on the first meeting, but I never here of an spoiling or compensation, if you make out on the first meeting, there better be a start to an allowance. I have lived awhile and can spot a user right away and believe there are as man sds on here looking for sex and nothing more as there are sbs looking for cash right away. easy way to avoid giving a sb cash on the first meetings, just be a gentleman and keep your hands to yourself and be completely platonic. The sd/sb relation involves intimacy, of course, but the term “sugardaddy” means a man that spoils a woman and gives her money and things.

    boy did the weather man get today’s weather wrong. It’s beautiful out, sunny, in the high 50’s, no wind. Just got back from my outing, a nice walk home and escaped death twice. ALmost got hit by car because driver didn’t look both ways and I was in the cross walk with walk signal and then there are too huge watch dogs in one of the yards and they only have a 3 foot white picket fence, they almost jumped over it, I ran to the other side of the street. got their address though and they are going to get a nasty letter because those dogs are going to jump the fence and bite someone if they don’t put up a higher fence.
    Still an empty mailbox, lotsa lookers, no emails .
    Have a great afternoon everyone, I gotta rest and go out again later.

  24. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    SAM: I see! What do u have in mind?

  25. Sam (formerly Sig) says:

    Bettie/Kitty, I sent Bettie a message.

  26. sweetredhead269443 says:

    DDUbs, See their are some true Sb’s out there your just finding the wrong ones 🙂 We need some more SD’s to join us here on the blog. To know who the true SB’s are.

  27. BlkButtafly says:

    The only marketing experience I have is being a promotional model on the weekends for the past 2 years. If you find yourself in my area, I’d be more than happy to keep you company and show you around. My profile # is 264118. Good luck in your perfect SB search! I know you’ll find her!

  28. SuthrnExec says:

    DDubs – there are so many SBs on this site and so many different arrangements that are sought after that I have to believe that you will connect with someone that will fit what you’re looking for. Here again, I think patience is the key – you’ll find them and they will find you.

    Good luck brother!

  29. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    DDubs: Sorry missed your post earlier…
    First of all: I recently graduated in Business and majored in marketing. I am currently a sales and marketing coordinator, I love the field. Perhaps we can share insight sometime # 279647.
    To answer your question, I do not think that is too much to ask at all. It is the shame of the site sometimes women tend to cross the line of putting the $ before connection. Keep searching and I am sure there are genuine SBs out there in your cities that would just love to be pampered and not ask for $s in cash. Good luck.

  30. BlkButtafly says:

    good morning everyone! Ddubs, I don’t believe that you are asking too much. In fact what you are asking for is exactly what a true SB should be

  31. lisa says:

    Good morning everyone. I’m out the door now to meet my parents for breakfast. slept late this morning, now out into the cold weather.


  32. gurlnextdoor says:

    yeah lisa he paid for everything (plane tickets, food, the hotel, etc.)…if he hadn’t that would have been a red flag for me and I wouldn’t have gone, lol

  33. BettieGirlDD says:

    Sincere, thank you. 🙂

    Sam – I back Duff’s fully for best wings.

    I’m pumped to hang out with my sugar sister Kittylainy!

  34. Gail says:

    Morning Sugars!!! It’s off to volunteer I go:) 5:32AM!!!! Early morning riser…imagine the possibilities SDs:) heeee, heeee!!!! Hi, Ho, Hi, Ho:)
    Have a great day everyone…tank up with coffee, tea…and plenty of warm clothing. I don’t want you all to catch colds and die……LOL…..

  35. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Sincere: thank you for the shout out 🙂 As a matter of fact, I will be in Buffalo/Niagara falls this Sunday with Bettie 🙂 We’re having a SB/SB date.

  36. SincereSD says:


    Hopefully this gets through as my weekend post on lost.

    If you are visiting Buffalo, send Bette (273192) an email. Kittylainy is across the border 1.5 hours away. Both are frequent posters … nice, intelligent and have stunning profiles.

  37. Sam says:

    I was off-line for a while. Later today I will go to the east coast with the first SB I met from this site (for our third meeting — Las Vegas, San Francisco, now New York), taking along her best friend this time.

    I’ll be in Buffalo on Sunday. I have been recommended Duff’s.

    Yasmine my profile number is 267369 (age and other stuff there).

    I won’t have access to the site once I take off… also for some reason I can’t login to the site from Blackberry.

  38. Jai says:

    Thank you so much sweetred 🙂 He brought it up several times, but I kept deflecting. Taking sweetred’s advice, Do any SDs here have a preference on how the money aspect is discussed? Also, do any SBs here have a preference or way they go about discussing it? Thanks again for the help 🙂

  39. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I have a very hard time with that myself. I think it depends on the situation and what you are looking for. I have found some Sd’s prefer a monthly allowance so no money is discussed when you are together. Or exchanged. I actually like that idea. I hate discussing money. I want to go out and have a good time and be with that person. To me its not all about the money. Its more about the chemistry.

    I usually let the SD bring up the business part of the relationship. As I am also new to this.

    If he asks for an amount I usually turn it back on him and ask what as he done in the past. I have found an experiences SD knows what he wants to provide and how he wants to go about it. These things can be negotiable to fit each persons comfort zone.

    As I have said before. Talking it out and communicating about your exceptions and needs is always helpful.

    I hope I helped a little. I would ask some the the Sd’s here what they think. You can usually get a great prospective the ones here on the blog.

  40. Jai says:

    🙂 Thanks sweetred. I think the hardest part was when he wanted to know how much money I was expecting. It was my first time and couldn’t bring myself to throw out a figure. Any tips on verbiage?

  41. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Jai think Of it as meeting a new friend for Dinner. Nerves are going to be there. But just try and relax and don’t think about anything other than you are meeting someone new. Leave your expectation for later. We all get ourselves so worked up we can’t function. Just relax and if its meant to be, then it will work out 🙂 Just take a positive attitude. maybe a glass of wine before you go to calm yourself. Just go and have fun 🙂

  42. sweetredhead269443 says:

    DDubs If you are ever in my area I would love to go to dinner with you NSA just 2 friends having dinner.

    I also do not believe in the sex for money, that should never be a stipulation. If a Sd wants that he can always “hire” someone.

    Congratulation on your new position, I hope its everything you want it to be. Good Luck to you 🙂

  43. Jai says:

    Hey all 🙂 I have a ‘date’ on Friday and a meeting on Saturday. I’m soooooo nervous. I read the previous blogs and don’t want to be redundant, but does anyone have any tips? I had my first meeting on Sunday and I was so nervous I didn’t eat or drink anything. I don’t want a repeat..I want to be a bit nervous, but not show it. Suggestion? 🙂

  44. DDubs says:

    hey all,
    haven’t been around in a while because I’ve been extremely busy in a new position with a new company.

    this is what leads me to post.
    I’m now traveling all around the United States as a national recruiting director for a marketing company. Basically, its my job to hire people in different cities/markets around the nation. Its a challenging, rewarding, and important job. Every new sales person that joins my company is going to go through me first. If the people I hire fail, then our company could also fail.

    all this time on the road can get pretty boring and lonely. I’ve traveled everywhere from miami to seattle and back again (literally). A short time ago, I changed my profile to reflect my current position. I’ve tried to meet people in the cities in which I’m traveling with mixed results. Unfortunately, I run into too many who are willing to hang-out but want immediate cash (up to $1,000/night) in exchange for a guarantee of sex.

    I’m honestly more interested in the companionship on the road than I am any sex. There’s nothing I hate more than going out to dinner alone, so I’ll usually end-up ordering room service at my hotel.

    I guess my question is…
    Is it unreasonable to think I can find some nice company for the short time I’m in a city (usually 2 to 3 nights) without having to fork over a large amount of money or be expected to buy a night of sex and/or intimacy?

    I’m not cheap. I’m generous, particularly in the right situation. What I really hate if feeling used. I’m a good guy and a gentleman who would treat my date for a first class time.

    Ideally, I’d like to meet someone I could see each time I visit her city (about every 2-3 months)…who would also be interested in traveling to meet me on some of my business trips. If someone were traveling to meet with me, I would surely send them home with cash for their trouble…although I DO NOT believe in cash for sex. If sex isn’t natural for both of us, its just not something I want.
    The thing is, I want to have time get to know someone before things progress too far either physically or financially. Hell, I’m not easy either.

    Am I barking up the wrong tree?

    Maybe some of you SBs could fill me in.

  45. sweetredhead269443 says:

    NC and SweetEuro glad you are having such a great time. I am very happy for you. Another match made in blog heaven 🙂 Well that’s two can we make it three? Whose next? Come on speak up………

  46. Atlantian says:

    This whole talk of feeling like a piece of meat would make for a good art exhibit. Some girls in windows….everyone feels like they’re window shopping…

    Actually…that would probably be really successful. haha

  47. OCSugarBaby says:

    Good Evening Sugars!
    Bettie, I love the dark hair, you have that Katie Perry thing going on! Love it.

    Gail- You can’t go to bed!

    NC and SweetEuro- I am thrilled for you both!

  48. Jenniferbbwsb says:

    NC… glad that you are having a great time.

  49. NC Gentleman says:

    Hello all! We are in Brugge this morning and then Brussels this evening. We are having a great time!we get along well and I am learning euro slang lol

  50. Jenniferbbwsb says:

    I just wanted to say Hello to everyone. Been trying to keep up. Not much going on here, just been a little down. Things will start to look up soon.
    I have missed everyone here.

  51. BettieGirlDD says:

    Hey, Sig.. I’m the Buffalo gal… what kinds of stuff do you like to do? Giving people info is pretty much my specialty… write me.. 273192

    Kitty I think I’m gonna keep the hair.. what was I thinking??? Talk to you first thing tomorrow girlie xoxo..

  52. sweetredhead269443 says:

    WOW, I just had the same experience as you lisa. 3 men that I emailed, deleted their accounts. I am now scaring men off the site 🙁 lmao

  53. sweetredhead269443 says:

    good night Lisa

  54. lisa says:

    Good night everyone

  55. lisa says:

    there are no dunkin donuts or crispy cremes in Houston 🙁 There used to be a Dunkin donuts on this street about a 20 years ago, now it’s a cell phone store.

  56. lisa says:

    Good night Gail. I get to sleep late tomorrow, I really need it. Then I will meet my parents for breakfast, run errands and meet my daugher in the later afternoon. Busy busy day.

  57. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Good night Gail, Good night Gordon (did he say he was going to bed?) or that his dog was ready for bed? Guess I am tired also.

  58. yasmine says:

    Good night Gail
    Goood night Gordon

  59. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I like the Duncan donuts iced coffee. I am not to fond of Starbucks coffee.

  60. Gail says:

    okay everyone…getting sleepy…have to get up at 5:00am tommorrow…Talk to you later….its great to be back on the blog….(smiling again) Sweet SD dreams All!!!!

  61. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I know what you mean. It does get discouraging. But keep your chin up. Good things come to those who wait, and wait, and wait lol

  62. lisa says:

    I just finished the starbucks card my parents gave me for Christmas and just received one in the mail for a survey I did online, so I will be at starbucks tomorrow and friday. I started drinking the bottled drinks and still like them from time to time. I like the green tea latte too

  63. yasmine says:

    I know but i will just never write to another one again. It is really not worth it…I will just let whoever wants to talk to me, write me.

  64. Gail says:

    I started drinking the Starbucks bottled drinks. I just put it in a cup and warm them up….delicious!!!!

  65. lisa says:

    yasmine, I have a very low return rate on emails. I sent a email to Gordon commenting on his profile the night he first joined us on the blog and he was kind to respond. but other than that it’s like 99.99% no response.

    I don’t have a dog but I still have my pigeon and he understands “bag” means birdseed and when I tell him’s a pretty bird, he grooms himself, lol
    I’m going to get him a flight suit/bird diaper thing so he can get out of his cage a little.

  66. sweetredhead269443 says:

    yasmine be patient. The one who do not respond are not worth your time or energy. But you have to also remember they do have lives and work also. If its right it will work out. If not……another will come alone and be the Sd of your dreams.

  67. Gail says:

    Still stay on the blog….don’t leave us Yasmine:)

  68. yasmine says:

    I dont drink coffee lol it does nothing for me

  69. Gail says:

    Lisa he’s talking to you….nudge, nudge….

  70. lisa says:

    no I was laying awake wired on coffee and dreading gettng up. lol

  71. yasmine says:

    There is a saying in Africa that goes
    A man is like your shadow..When you run away from him he follows you and when you follow him he runs away from you lol
    I was thinking about it because this must be like the 20 th message that i sent to a guy on here and they never replied…Im done writing to men on this site. I reply to All my emails even if it is to say Thank you but no thank you but most of the men here are so rude for not replying to emails.
    I am done..

  72. Gail says:

    Sweet dreams Gordon…all of us SB are sending you Sugarbaby dreams…(smile)

  73. sweetredhead269443 says:

    My dog gets his stuffed tiger and sits down next to me as if to say Ok I am ready, lets go to bed already lol

  74. lisa says:

    Goodnight Gordon, pleasant dreams

  75. Gordon says:

    I thought Lisa was laying awake all night thinking of Gordon

  76. Gail says:

    Horses,Coffee,Internet,Robin….what a happy SD you are:)

  77. Gordon says:

    Sweetred is right, I am tired and I am holding a nightcap, my corgi is giving me a dirty look saying it’s bed time

  78. lisa says:

    I love ice coffee, hot coffe, lattes, etc, and I often drink it before bed, and then lay awake wondering why I can’t sleep. lol

  79. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I drink Coffee several times a day. I love my Ice coffee in the summers too.

  80. lisa says:

    I can’t go a day without my coffee. I was without internet access for 3 days during hurricane ike and I was walking the walls, disconected from the world

  81. Gordon says:

    Gail, It’s always been comfortable inside Robin or at least in her arms

  82. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Leave poor Gordon alone, he is tired. He meant horses. Give Gordon a night cap and put him to bed 🙂

  83. Gordon says:

    I am never more then ten feet from a coffee pot, it’s my only vice
    There is internet access while the boat is docked, but it’s good to sail away from the net

  84. Gail says:

    Gordon-Who was your boat named after…someone special?

  85. lisa says:

    sweetredhead, they have poop catchers for horses. there are horse and carriage rides downtown and they have a cloth bag thing under the horses butt, looking at the poop in it really takes the romantic vision out of the carriage ride, lol

  86. yasmine says:

    Robin…thats a nice name

  87. sweetredhead269443 says:

    A sail Boat?

  88. Gail says:

    You mean’t horses and not hoses…right? tired puppy…so cute…

  89. lisa says:

    What were you doing with hoses?
    I had a horse when I was a child, he didn’t like to be rode, just liked to be fed candy and drink coffee, odd horse, his name was Herman

  90. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I love horses, just not their poop lol

  91. Gordon says:


    It’s very comfortable inside Robin (my boat)

  92. lisa says:

    Does your boat have a coffee bar? internet access so you can be on the SA blog, lol

  93. Gordon says:

    It’s horse season here, most of my time gets spent with them.
    I was with the hoses all day and I am a tired puppy.

  94. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I will, make a picnic lunch, help drive and maneuver a boat. I will even swab the deck. But I draw the line a mucking stalls lmao.

  95. lisa says:

    I don’t care much for cold weather. When I was married I used to go out on my husband’s friend”s boat and it was fun in the summer, but I wouldn’t want to be out in the wind when it’s cold. Brrrr
    I don’t own a yellow rain coat and boots, lol
    I prefer inside adventure.

  96. Gail says:

    Does your boat have a shower, washer and dryer, and fireplace? I went to the boat show here and was amazed….luxury on the water:)

  97. yasmine says:

    Lol Gordon i think Sweet red head is the perfect sb for you

  98. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Oh no, Its nice to be out on a boat when its cold. The air is crisp. The sky’s clear. Anytime to me is perfect to be out on a boat.

  99. Gail says:

    Lisa-Where is your sense of adventure? YOU just have to bundle up:) Yellow raincoat and boots if necessary….I am all for trying new things…

  100. Gordon says:

    Lisa, it’s not to cold down here to be on a boat and it’s always warm inside the boat

  101. yasmine says:

    I think i scared Sam away 🙁

  102. lisa says:

    I would rather be home under the covers or in the warm mall shopping and drinking lattes

  103. Gail says:

    I can see SweetRed in her sailor outfit…aye aye mates:)

  104. lisa says:

    too cold to be out on a boat now

  105. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Gordon, I would like to be more than deck candy. Even at my age I am more useful than that lmao Besides Learning things on a boat could be very fun 🙂

  106. lisa says:

    I can’t even get any sds from Dallas to travel to meet me

  107. Gail says:

    Just read your profile Gordon:) Very nice!!! I am willing to try:)

  108. lisa says:

    I have found distance to be an issue too, most sds will not travel even a few hundred miles, 🙁

  109. Gordon says:

    Sweetredhead, you can always be Deck Candy

  110. sweetredhead269443 says:

    IDK Yasmine I am talking to a SD in Alaska. He is will to come here to meet me.

  111. sweetredhead269443 says:

    That’s what you hire people to do. lol

  112. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Well that leaves me out, I can’t muck out a stall or trim a sheet. Will to learn to trim a sheet. But muck a stall….ewwwwwww

  113. yasmine says:

    Distance seems to be an issue for a lot of sd 🙁

  114. yasmine says:

    Lol Gail I love older guys that is why i am asking….

  115. Gordon says:

    My profile is 284842, I would like a Refined Beauty, age unimportant maturity is a must. education and sophistication. If she knows how to muck out a stall or trim a sheet (sail) it’s a plus

  116. Gail says:

    I am often…and mine are going through….but all my conversation is G-rated….

  117. Gail says:

    You are suppose to ask how young he is. LOL….

  118. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I think if you type to much to fast it stops you. Or to often

  119. Gail says:

    LOL….I am trying to cool the conversation by having the SD tell us more.
    Lisa-Behave…that way your post will go through…(smile)

  120. lisa says:

    darn I can’t post a regular message 🙁

  121. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Yes Gordon, tell us what you look for in a Sb.

  122. lisa says:

    Go to Chicago to cool off Gail
    this keeps getting moderated for some reason

  123. yasmine says:

    Sam..how old are you???

  124. sweetredhead269443 says:

    LMAO I just had a funny thought. Sam and I would be like that comic at the top of the blog together. Sorry got side tracked.

  125. Gail says:

    Hello Gordon-Welcome back!!! We want to know what you are looking for in a SB? Sam…we want to hear from you too:)

  126. lisa says:

    testing, blog being moderated again?

  127. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Good evening Gordon.

  128. Gail says:

    Whewww…all this talk about making love and now Sam talking about fit…..it’s warm here…LOL

  129. yasmine says:

    Lol yeah Sam he is here so i will behave myself lol
    Hi Sam! Hi Gordon!

  130. sweetredhead269443 says:

    You can be “fit” at any age. Its the stamina.

  131. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Oh crap I misspelled and of course here comes Sam ughhh. Now I will have to watch how I type lol.

  132. lisa says:

    Good evening Gordon

  133. Gail says:

    So lets connect…since its so convenient:) (smile)

  134. Sam (formerly Sig) says:

    Yasmine, it’s true, although it is, of course, only statistical. Older women have more experience and seem more in tune with the act; younger women sometimes can have more crazy energy. But there are exceptions to all these rules. In fact I think the most important differentiator in physical sex is “fit.” There is a certain kind of “fit” that can make the physical sensation amazing…

  135. lisa says:

    Gail, I should do that, lol
    Heck there’s even a cemetery a mile away.lol
    And a store that sells caskets about 8 blocks away.
    also I have a very nice king size bed
    I’m prepared, now where are you sd?

  136. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I was lucky enough to be taught in my 20’s by a very experiences and very sexual man. Was with him for many years 🙂

  137. Gordon says:

    I’m back, I was trying to catch up on mail. How is everyone.

  138. Sam (formerly Sig) says:

    I will be in Buffalo on this Sunday with some time free. I recall several bloggers saying they lived nearby. What’s there to do there on a Sunday evening?

  139. yasmine says:

    lol sweet red head I hear that women over 30 have wayyy more experience than younger ones. My mom also told me the same thing

  140. Sam (formerly Sig) says:

    I was wealthy in my 20’s and intensely disliked going to bars and picking up women. So it’s not impossible. The internet is convenient…

  141. Gail says:

    LOL….Lisa you are prepared…maybe you should include that in your profile…:)

    SweetRed…polite you are…wild and passionate you may be too:)

  142. lisa says:

    they are supposed to be in Belgium today so that would make it almost 5 am there.

  143. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I was trying to be polite lmao

  144. lisa says:

    well I’m prepared, I live across from the fire station/ambulance and 4 blocks from a nice medical center that has a heart hospital.

  145. Gail says:


  146. Gail says:

    Dreamer….Blondie….OCSugar…SExec…Mish..Goddes…anyone else out there check in time…..

    Ok Sweet European and NC-Get out of the bed and let us know that you are breathing…panting…smiling….LOL…happy for the both of you:)

  147. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I was 20 once and I know sooooooo much more now in the art of making love, then I did then.

  148. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Why do men think that a 20yr old will give them a heart attack lmao. I think woman my age with “experience” have a better chance of killing them lol

  149. yasmine says:

    Lol Lisa!! Maybe that was him! lol

  150. lisa says:

    When I was 20 and had boyfriends in their 20’s they were all minute men and then I met my current 4 years ago (not a sugardaddy though) and he is 57 now and he is the best lover I have ever had, I swear he can do it several times in a couple hours, unlike the younger guys, and unlike the younger guys, he likes to cuddle and doesn’t jump up and throw his clothes on right after sex
    Hey jasmine, an ambulance just passed by, maybe he had that heart attack, lol

  151. Gail says:

    Yasmine-This fella is very nice. I met him on another website yesterday…(smile) He is driving here to meet me at the Mall:) We will see how it goes:) It’s been awhile for me on a SD date….I have been kinda busy doing other things. You will find a nice fella Yasmine….I have been here for a little over a year. It was slow at first…in time you will find out what works.

  152. lisa says:

    yasmine, I found 2 to take me shopping, actually 2 weekends in a roll but have not had a meeting since and that was like 5 months ago 🙁
    The shopping was great though as I bought stuff I wanted and would never buy with my own money and although the situation didn’t work out, it was the sds that made that decision , not me.

  153. yasmine says:

    lol i am 22. I had one tell me that he was afraid to be with a younger girl ( he is 57) because we would have so much mind blowing sex that he could end up in the ER LOL

  154. lisa says:

    nothing wrong with some practical things Gail. I remember when I had those 2 shopping sprees with sd dates, I would have been better off with cash or some groceries. lol I liked that about my last boyfriend, he wouldn’t really buy me alot of stuff as he was always in a hurry and we ladies can’t be rushed to shop, but he would take me to the market and I would get some really good food, nice fruit and stuff I never can afford to buy and of course I made a run through the toiletry aisle for face creams and skin care stuff

  155. yasmine says:

    ooooh Gail that’s nice!!! I wish i could find one to take me shopping 🙁

  156. Gail says:

    Where did the SDs go? Cro34…Gordon….where are you? Don’t be afraid we won’t bite hard….LOL…..

    Yasmine-Kinda surprising…how young are you:)

  157. lisa says:

    my first boyfriend was rich. I was 19 and he was 27 but his still lived at home in a mansion (not uncommon in my hometown for singles to live at home till marriage) and drove a nice car (the one he died in) but we couldn’t go to his place or anything, had to sneak around, even though we were adults, so I wonder how much money “he” actually had of his own, as if I was a rich young attractive man, I’d certainly have my own chickplace, not exactly cool to live with your parents

  158. yasmine says:

    Lol Lisa it is different for me…I attract the older ones in real life but i only get emails from the younger ones here 🙁

  159. Gail says:

    We’re back…LOL….so Yasmine what have you been doing with yourself since our late nite party?…I was so frustrated when I tried to post…I wrote some serious heart-pouring messages to all of you…LOL…but its now lost and long-gone….

    Lisa-I love older sugardaddies….I have not ventured out and chatted with the younger fellas like SweetRed…maybe I will one day:)

    I have a date next Monday….LOL…going with a SD to buy me some new panties and bras…nothing expensive…just need some good comfortable cotton undergarments….LOL…oh I forgot…going to eat at Cheesecake Factory:)

  160. yasmine says:

    There is one here who is 22 , a “multimillionaire” lol makes you wonder if the profile is fake or not ahaha why would a 22 year old be on SA when he could just go out to a bar and get any girl he wants.

  161. lisa says:

    I get hit on by highschool boys and had some guy get off the bus when I was going to the walmart and he followed me into the store and asked me out, lol , he was like 18, I said I was married. lol
    I attract younger guys in real life, but as I have said many times, I can’t attract a 50 year old on this site.lol

  162. lisa says:

    There are some from my city that are 18 or 20 and they don’t look like sds, they look like the thugs in my neighborhood, lol nothing refined, even if a man has money, it doesn’t give him class or make him a sd.

  163. sweetredhead269443 says:

    yasmine No I don’t think so lol. But that could just be me because I am 40 and I go for the more mature (not always age) men. But I did meet a very nice and mature man who was 34 who was very mature and a gentleman. Age is just a number to me.

    Outside the sugar family I have men hit on me all the time who are in their 20’s and 30’s. I may be 40 but I don’t look it 🙂

  164. lisa says:

    most of my posts didn’t even post, I guess because I kept mentioning I missed the blog

  165. yasmine says:

    yes lisa!!! they are some 25-35 guys on the site!!!! i am like WHAT???? i think they are just here to have fun, nothing serious. lol

  166. yasmine says:

    Hi Gail!!! yeah i had trouble posting anything since last week

  167. lisa says:

    yasmine, I’m 43 and have never thought of a sugardaddy being under 50, for some reason I find it odd that there are all these 30 and 40 year old sds, sds should be 50-70

  168. Gail says:

    SweetRed…withdrawal…who is he? (smile)

  169. lisa says:

    Gail, I will be wearing 3 of my favorite sweaters tomorrow, lol and my wool coat, cashmere neckscarf, fur color wrap, and tights, and of course my trademark miniskirt. lol
    friday I will wear my warm ugg boots and the cute sweater dress my exboyfriend bought me last year along with a really cute coat I bought 3 years ago but hardly get to wear.
    the only good thing about the cold weather is getting to wear my good clothes, it’s too hot in the summer, lol

    Bodyworlds was great, hard to believe they were all living at one time, I wish they had more info about the donors

  170. yasmine says:

    am i the only ones who thinks that they are NO good sugardads under 45??

  171. Gail says:

    Welcome Gordon!!! We want all the details….what kind of a SB are you looking for…she might be here….(smile)

    Okay ladies….lets all listen:) He just make one of our hearts go “Beat, beat, beat!!!” (smile again)

  172. sweetredhead269443 says:

    [email protected] a little withdrawal going on there

  173. Gail says:

    Hi Yasmine,

    We are real-time tonite….so lets take advantage of it and get caught up!!! I haven’t talked to you since our late nite party!!!!

  174. lisa says:

    sweetredhead, I’m slim and I get no response and I don’t even hear from the “few extra pounds” sds I email.
    It is going to be 50 tomorrow and a cold front is coming in (another one) and it is going to be a cold day friday. I’m off both days so I can sleep late and don’t have to get out in the early morning. Meeting my parents in the morning for breakfast and the seeing my lover friday morning and then doing some lite shopping at the mall in the afternoon, gotta stay under the covers or in the mall, lol

  175. Gail says:

    Northern Calif:) Button-up, layer-up, cover-up Lisa…we don’t want you to get sick and die!!!! Oh by the way…I commented on your trip to see the bodies….I saw it too when it was here…It was amazing…LOL….naked bodies and all:)

    BlkButtafly-If you feel like a piece of meat, make sure you are juicy and delectable…that way they can’t resist you:) LOL….once again making up for lost time on the blog….LOL….

  176. yasmine says:

    hi everyone!

  177. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Its going to be 58 tomorrow, COLD!! from What I hear the next few days are going to get even colder. But at least I am not up north.

    I don’t think I would get any responses if I didn’t email first. I put “few extra pounds” on my profile. From things I have seen and heard, very large woman put that also. So that may be the reason I don’t get many who look on their own.

    But that’s ok. If the thought of “few extra pounds” stops someone from looking a little further, to find out the kind of person I am then so be it. They are not worth my time anyway. I am more than just a pretty face and sexy body and I would hope someone else could appreciate that also.

  178. lisa says:

    the blog was down and I sure missed it. I thought you were talking about chicken, lol

  179. Gail says:

    Ahhhh…speaking of meat….I love meat…white and dark meat…LOL….!!!
    Sorry if I offend anyone…I am making up for all the days I tried to post and all the days I didn’t….I said hello to everyone…now you all know I didn’t give up on my sugar family.

  180. lisa says:

    Hi ail

    Where are you that the sun is out and warm?

  181. ail says:

    Hello everyone,
    I have been trying to post for days. I hope everyone is doing well. It’s warm here and will be for the next 10 days. Yaaah!!!! The sun is out…now time to play!!!

  182. lisa says:

    meat isn’t free though, lol

  183. BlkButtafly says:

    I feel like that! LOL

  184. lisa says:

    Most of the ones that have viewed me have profiles that sometimes seem like the same person, just a change in height, hair color, age, etc. they don’t seem to upgrade, just fade away.
    I agree sweetredhead, we should get paid per view, lol, join free, but pay for each profile viewed without you send an email (which I think requires a guy to have a paid memebership) and that might cut down on the endless viewing but not emailing lol

    How’s the weather in Florida, sweetreadhead? not feeling too warm in Texas so I’m going to freeze at the bustops tomorrow when i’m out running errands, gotta have my latte.

  185. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I have had many views on mine, all premium members. Got a response from one, He seems to be a keeper 🙂 Talked to him a bit today and he seems very nice. He is in Alaska. No good ones here at home. Does anyone else feel like a piece of meat on display lol.

  186. Gordon says:

    Admission Here, Before joining as a paid member and posting a real profile, I joined free and posted a short bland profile here and a few others sites to look around. This appeared to be a classy site, so I chose to begin SA for a real search.

    I am sure most of the free sds are just looking but some are real and will upgrade.

  187. lisa says:

    Hi cro34, no just alot of views from sds that joined for free, checked out profiles and never upgraded, too many window shoppers, bad economy I guess, lol

  188. cro34 says:

    Lisa: how have you been? Have you found your dream SD?

  189. cro34 says:

    hi i am back

  190. lisa says:

    gurlnextdoor, did you potential sd cover you travel expenses, and it probably costed more to get another flight. I don’t fly very often but always have restricted tickets, if I miss the plane, i’m screwed, so i’m there like 4 hours early lol

  191. lisa says:

    I am very discouraged that everyone that views my profile is a nonpaying member that joins, views my profile minutes after creating a profile and never appears again. Alot of guys just seem to join to look around and then they disappear. I have also clicked on a few that viewed me to find their profiles denied for inappropriate content. sounds like a winner to me. lol
    Trying to stay warm in this cold weather, it is going to be 50 tomorrow and only in the 40’s friday. that warm compared to the north but heck I’m spoiled and want my sunny weather back.
    Glad your date went well gurlnextdoor

  192. sweetredhead269443 says:

    gurlnextdoor that’s great. Glad you had a good time. Its always great when you finally make that connection with someone. Its all the emails and “fakes” worth your wait.

  193. gurlnextdoor says:

    Hey everyone, my trip to Boston was well…interesting. I got there seven hours late because I missed my flight and had to wait for the next one. 🙁 But it wasn’t all bad because I found out very quickly that the SD I was meeting was very good with his hands (he gave me the greatest massage ever!) and we ended up watching a movie into the wee hours of the morning while cuddling, kissing, and talking. So, it started out bad, but ended pretty good.

  194. lisa says:

    Good evening everyone. Just got in from work. Lotsa views but no emails. I have noticed that there are alot of guys who join for free and view the profiles and then disappear. Where are the real sds? I am not sure I will renew premium.

    I’m off the next two days and it’s going to be cold here. Going to do a little shopping on friday (very little)

    Have a good evening everyone.

  195. sweetredhead269443 says:

    *Kittylainy they are up now 🙂

  196. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    gurl: let us know how your trip to boston is going!! 😀

    sweetred: still can’t see ur pics

    wildwon: oo my.. that’s wild… was he at least cute??…

  197. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    NC & SweetEuro: I am so glad you two are having fun! I can’t wait until I go to Europe again!

    Goddess (aka Mish): Yay for new arrangement! care to share?

    Bettie: don’t change your hair.. you just won’t be “bettie” anymore and it’s so pretty

    Spanish: IS HE THE ONE???!!!

  198. BlondieNYC says:

    Happy Wednesday everyone!!

  199. lisa says:

    Hi eveyone

    Just got back from seeing Bodyworlds 2 at the museum. It was great, lots of male bodies (and females) stripped down to the internal organs and bones. lol

  200. chocolatevenus says:

    Hi everyone,

    OC you can call me CocoVee, i like it..thanks xxxx

    SE you lucky girl, sending you lots of positive thought I hope it goes amazingly well xx

  201. NC Gentleman AND SweetEuropean says:

    Hello from Copenhagen!! Off to Blegium on wednesdy, Paris on friday ad then home on saturay woooo! Sweetreuro is even hotter in person and amazing in bed!!! So is NC Gent! hahaha Hope you’re all having a great week! we are! xxxx

  202. GoddessLike says:

    Okay, so it’s Mish…

    I felt like changing my name, for a few reasons…

    how is everyone? I’ve been busy, planning my sister wedding. And working… I pretty much have an arrangement now, consuming my time

  203. BettieGirlDD says:

    Hey all.. thinking of changing my hair from the “bettie page” cut to something different.. Any suggestions? 273192

  204. lisa says:

    Good morning everyone. It’ s a cold morning here, I slept late. Getting ready to go with parents to a museum exibit. Have a great day.

  205. NC Gentleman says:

    Hi SweetEuro — good luck with your meeting tomorrow 🙂 You will have to let us know how it went.

  206. BettieGirlDD says:

    Good Luck Sweet Euro! xoxo

  207. Spanish Vixen says:

    Good luck SweetEuro!!!!

    I met up with my new SD yesterday for the third time. It looks like I’ve found one 🙂

  208. OCSugarBaby says:

    Good Luck Gurl and NC Gent on your first meetings on Monday! Now, your meetings aren’t with each other now are they? I am pretty good at paying close attention to details. Possibly another blog romance? 🙂

  209. gurlnextdoor says:

    Good luck SweetEuropean, hope all goes well.

  210. gurlnextdoor says:

    Thanks SuthrnExec and Lisa. I hope things go good too, well I’m back at college and feeling free once again. 🙂 Now, gotta go unpack to repack for my trip tommorow.

  211. SuthrnExec says:

    SweetEuropean, best of luck to you!

  212. Cutie says:

    SweetEuro: Raconte!!! Il vient de France? DETAILS PLEASE 🙂 I’m so happy for you, do you know what you’re going to wear?

    Good luck!!! and have fun

  213. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I put a little better pictures on my profile. let me know what you thing. they are not approved yet but hopefully soon. profile # 269443

  214. Wildwon says:

    Good luck Sweet!

    I might be meeting someone new this week too!

  215. SweetEuropean says:

    Hey, I hope everyone is doing well! I meeting somebody tomorrow, very exited…wish me luck! 🙂

  216. lisa says:

    Good morning everyone
    Headed out to work. Got a short day today and my family is coming over for lunch.
    Have a great day everyone

  217. BlkButtafly says:

    Welcome Coco and Jai! Jai, when you preview your profile, your profile number is at the top, above your personal information 🙂

  218. SuthrnExec says:

    gurlnextdoor, I hope it goes well. It’s usually a very good sign when you feel this good about it before the first meeting. Usually, if you just know everything will be great, it will be! Enjoy it!

  219. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Welcome Coco. there are some great people here on the blogs. For support advice or just to vent. This sugar family is one of the best.

  220. SuthrnExec says:

    Welcome to Coco and Jai! I can assure you that you will learn much! It may not all be practical or applicable, but learn you will!

  221. Jai says:

    I’d love to share it. Where do I find that number? And thank you guys for the welcomes..oh and yes, I’m on the SB side of things 🙂

  222. Wildwon says:

    Welcome Jai and Coco!

  223. Wildwon says:

    Hello everyone! Is the blog acting up again??

    Kitty- I met a guy online a few years ago spent about two months talking to him to find out he was an ass, then later saw him on MM and he DEFINITELY proved is assness there! Then someone mentioned it the other day and I recalled the story and then the guy randomly emails me…like I said time to start discussing how I am going to win the lottery! ;o)

  224. OCSugarBaby says:

    Welcome Coco!

    Oooh Now I will have to call Chocolatevenus “CocoVee” instead of Coco! 🙂

  225. lisa says:

    Gurlnextdoor, hope your date goes great. 🙂

  226. lisa says:

    good evening everyone, I see my last two posts did not post for some reason 🙁
    Well in my first 10 days of premium I got 3 messages (after not having any response in about a month) 1 guy wanted me to send him xrated pictures, one guy wanted to meet immediately on his last night in town, I suggested we get to know each other online and meet when he comes back into town in a couple weeks, he disappeared, 3rd guy lived way too far away and wanted someone who was free to travel all the time and asked for email to send pics but then he turned it around and said he meant for me to send him more pics, odd since I have 3 posted and he has 0, I think HE should be sending pics, anyway he disappeared, got several views today from those guys that join free and check out profiles but never pay to join.
    Hope everyone is having a good evening.

  227. gurlnextdoor says:

    Welcome Coco, well everyone my date is in 2 days! 🙂 I’m so excited, and something tells me that he just might be the one. I’ll keep my fingers crossed on this one.

  228. CutipiNYC says:

    Good afternoon everyone!

    Hope all you SD and SB’s are having a great day!

  229. SweetEuropean says:

    Ooh la la SV!
    Coco – Welcome to the sugar family 😀

  230. Coco says:

    I just want to tell you how inspirational and insightful all of you sugars have been! I am newbie, only have been here a month, but I have been reading all of your blogs and you fill like family:) Hope all of you have a fun-filled, sugary weekend!

  231. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Welcome Jai. The old blogs are a great way to get some some tips and advice.

    I also have a dog. His name is Rebel and he is a hound and doberman mix. I rescued him from a shelter when he was less than a year old. He is so cute he has a stuffed tiger his carries around everywhere. he has taken all the stuffing out of it and its this floppy thing. He is the smartest dog I have ever seen. He was so easy to train. He learns new things within a day or 2.

  232. OCSugarBaby says:

    Spanish Vixen-Glad you had fun with you SD. But, how is sharing that information helpful to other SB or SD’s? Not trying to be mean, just asking if maybe sticking to topic or context of the blog might be more useful all reading this. 🙂

  233. OCSugarBaby says:

    Welcome Jai- Are you an SB? Why dont you share your profile number with us.

  234. SuthrnExec says:

    Good Saturday morning to all! Since this is the first time this week I have really had an opportunity to think about the questions posed without a lot of other competing stuff going on around me, I thought I would have to answer the questions presented on this topic:

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached? Yes – although there is an extremely fine line here – at what point does the love become a string???

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’? In a perfect world I would say ‘yes’, but my world is far from perfect. It’s hard for me to use the word “settle”. I am always seeking to improve whatever I touch – business, my own personal life or relationships. I certainly do not feel I “settled” while on this site – it took months to find the person with which there is profound chemistry.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment? No – love doesn’t ‘rely’ on it – it doesn’t ‘rely’ on anything except unconditional acceptance.

    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating? Yes.

  235. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    SpanishVixen: you’re so incredibly bad… I love it.. glad you had fun! 🙂

    Jai: Welcome to the blog, we would love to hear your take on some topics 🙂 but until then, enjoy 🙂

    Wildwon: I am a tad lost on this whole millionaire matchmaker guy thing, please fill me in, sounds interesting

    Lingere: we have the VS Pink collection here in Canada. (we don’t have VS, but their pink collection is sold through one of our retailers.) I cannot say I am a big fan of it, that collection is rather boring and generic. I would love to the other mentioned stores one day. I don’t think Iw ould like to buy them online just because the way they fit can be really different than shown. I really wish Canada has more lingere stores though.

    ~* everyone: In a Sugary relationship, (in most cases) it should be drama free and NSA. Does jealousy every come into play? either of their wives, other Sugar babies? I do feel jealousy (or inadequatesy) sometimes and I abolutely hate that feeling because I know if I approach the subject, it’d be creating drama in a drama free relationship.*~

  236. dreamer says:

    goodmornin sugar dizzles & bizzles.. pulled an all niter with a friend, but i wanted to wish u all luck on ur sugarhunt today, the tide is turning, everyone, things r about to start getting better!

  237. SweetEuropean says:

    Oooh la la Spanish Vixen!

  238. Spanish Vixen says:

    I don’t want to rub anything in! In fact…I don’t want anyone thinking about my naughty bits for a while >_<

    Went out with an SB friend and another SD last night. And today at work I kept getting yelled at (I work at a bar) because I was sooo spaced out and distracted. My body is so sore…sooo sore. I’ll let your imagination run wild on that one. It’s break time for me on this one!!

  239. Jai says:

    Hi everyone. I’m new to the blog, the site, and this life. I have so many questions, but I figured I’d look through the old blogs first before ramble typing them here 🙂 I did want to say that I have a 4lb doxie poo named Hershey who I love dearly and a kitty named Pharaoh. Hope everyone is enjoying their respective weekends 🙂

  240. Wildwon says:

    apparently now he sees himself as some sort of matchmaker! Too funny for words!

  241. Atlantian says:

    That’s VS’s PINK collection, Lisa.
    It’s geared toward the younger, high school, college student type of girl.
    I don’t mind PINK too much. It’s always nice feeling cute and sexy, because the two should not be mutually exclusive.

    At the various VS I’ve been to, they always have a pretty good balance. I wish they put more of the stuff they carried on the website in the stores. Especially the swimsuits! Those are the types of things I’d like to try on before I buy.

    And i agree, Mina. VS does get generic. One time, an employee there told me to just go to Target to get practically the same thing haha.

  242. Wildwon says:

    Heehee Atlantian! Sadly enough he’s pretty damn proud of his time on Bravo…check out his myspace! http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=442221385

  243. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Good evening everyone. just checking to see if the blog is back up.

  244. Atlantian says:

    haha Wildwon! You need to reply! And just be like….so I saw your dating troubles on TV…maybe it’s you? haha

  245. lisa says:

    Victoria’s secret in my area has become too general. They sell too much non sexy stuff like sweatpants and cotton panties. comfortable yes, but not my vision of sexy. There is a really big store at my mall and everyone goes there, families, pregant women and women pushing baby carriages, there are kids running all over the place, so its not exactly sexy. the fredricks is not as popular here but the store is smaller and dimmer and it’s all lace and satin and frills, no flannel or jersey.

  246. Mina says:

    VS is great because it’s so affordable, unfortunately the stuff can be so generic and the styles tend to be recycled.
    Cosabella, Princess Tam Tam, Mimi Holliday… And of course those mentioned by Sam are all fantastic and incredibly sexy.

  247. A. says:

    NC – My profile isn’t up yet, but I’m making progress. I’ve decided to take my time the second time around. I got so excited when I signed up that I just threw something together.

    I had a boyfriend who would let me sleep in his dress shirts after he had worn them. I would sleep in them when we weren’t together just so I could smell him….I miss him sometimes 🙁

  248. Wildwon says:

    Hey Atlantian, so weird, I logged onto myspace today and had an email from that guy Tai from Millionaire Matchmaker! how weird is that? I haven’t spoken to him in over a year and then we talk about him and i get an email. Let’s talk about me winning the lottery now ;o)

  249. OCSugarBaby says:

    Hey Sig- I checked out Agent Provacater! Oh La La… Hey they are in the UK too Coco. Nice stuff. I now have a favorite lingerie website! Thanks Sig

  250. lisa says:

    sweetredhead, I’m the same, I hate interviewing and stay at jobs I don’t like just to avoid change. and all that running around doing interviews doesn’t pay anything either. lol funny when i was looking for work a few months ago, I put in probablly a dozen applications and the only one that called me was the first one that i applied for online. I always get the first job I apply for or I don’t get any, but I end up having to apply everywhere before I hear from that first one.lol

    I remember as a child my parents went to see Sinatra and I was about 8 at the time, I think I slept through the entire show. But everyone likes some Sinatra, even sadam hussein listened to his music. lol

    I also saw Johnny cash as a child and have to admit I occasionally go to Youtube and listen to “ring of fire” or i walk the line.

    I wish I had a dog, but I can’t afford the 300 deposit which is totally ridiculous as there is nothing in my apartment that the landlord owns that is worth 300, furniture and drapes are mine, crappy carpet is theirs.
    I have my daughter’s turtle (talk about a pet with a pesonality, lol) and a pigeon. nothing cute and furry here, just feathers and shell

  251. lisa says:

    Good afternoon everyone. It’ s a beautiful day here. I just got back from doing laundry. Before that I spent some quality time with my lover. I wish I could find a sugardaddy that was like him, he adores me. 🙂

    funny thing is that I have been involved with a married man for almost 4 years and never think about his wife showing up and my door.

    I wanted to ask you all a question. I was looking over some profiles of sds and found some that want to see their sb several times a week. In reality how many of us want to give up all our free time or be “on call” whenever he wants us? I mean we all either go to school or work, or both and without the sd paid for all living expenses, how could any of us be available almost every day of the week, I mean we do have lives and who would give up all their free time for something that isn’t going to last.
    And most of these sds weren’t looking to offer much assistance.

    Have a great afternoon everyone, i’m reallly enjoying my day off

  252. chocolatevenus says:

    Hi ladies and gents! Just had to add I have looked into emigrating to the US just because of those fab 2 shops (VC & Fredericks)…give me lingerie over shoes any day…lol

    Spanish Vixen…go on rub it in..just make us even more jealous! Hot passionate nights…oooo weeee!!!!

    Just a newbie, so havent had on yet to have any stories!
    CV xx

  253. BettieGirlDD says:

    I have an event in Feb where I”m going to be a classic cigarette girl.. im thinking a new corset and crinoline skirt is in order!

  254. gurlnextdoor says:

    Yeah SpanishVixen that definitely is not discrete, lol. I agree with you A., sleeping in a man’s button up shirt is so sexy. I just need to find a SD so I can sleep in his shirt, lol. That just gave me an idea! Breakfast in bed….mmm, yummy.

  255. BlkButtafly says:

    hey everyone! Just wanted to add my 2 cents…I have a Pomeranian/papillon named pixie :-)……and I agree with not giving up. I’ve been on here for about a month or 2 myself I think but I’m still searching for my perfect daddy 😉

  256. Sam (formerly Sig) says:

    Some Victoria Secrets stuff is nice; generally I like La Perla and Agent Provacateur.

    I love dogs and have had three starting when I was a kid, but I work and travel so much now that I can’t justify having a dog.

    Love is such a difficult concept to pin down. If I can love a sports team or love a car, I can certainly love an SB much deeper, with genuine concern, desire to help and please, and so on. But the existence of an arrangement does make the love different from the open ended relationship love, or that of a parent and child.

  257. ~*kittylainy*~ says:

    LOL SV… ithat Sd is a MAN… what do you expect? unless he wanted to be found?!!
    Thank you SV
    hahaaa… ooOo sexy evening~ jealous~

  258. Atlantian says:

    I love buying lingerie! Who doesn’t feel better after buying something sexy? I like VS just because I worship Selita Ebanks. But I think Fredrick’s just has some sexier, “for your man” lingerie, while VS is a bit more conservative.

    Anyways…I’m going off to learn about ocean life and the like, so I’ll see you guys later….

  259. BlondieNYC says:

    Am taking a moment to vent, so please bear with me!!! 🙂 🙂

    I just spent a silly amount of time sending emails to men who caught my eye here…and nada! Nothing, not a single email back.

    But what really makes me nuts is that I’ve actually had sds who read this blog track me down to send me fan mail. FAN MAIL….lol! However, they’re not interested in me, nope, just wanna write fan mail, oh poo! What’s a gal to do??? 🙁

  260. SuthrnExec says:

    Yes, please do – then I’ll tell everyone what I got at Bass Pro Shop!!

  261. NC Gentleman says:

    Hello A/Kitty — I see you scheduled me for funding a skiing trip/3some lol Is your profile up yet A? Kitty – I looked at your new profile and it looks great!

  262. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Gordon. Just smile pull out your check book and slip your phone number on top 🙂

  263. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Frank Sinatra, Gene Kelly movie. I love those old movies. The outfits and the dancing, heaven! I was born in the wrong century!!

  264. Wildwon says:

    Morning! Hey Kitty, is it funny that the five dollar hooker comment and all relating to it were deleted ;o)

    Totally random, after talking about the guy from Millionaire Matchmaker yesterday, checked myspace today and had a message from him…random!

    I need coffee!

  265. sweetredhead269443 says:

    I have so much trouble buying sexy teddies. Being large chested, they make them so small ughhh.

  266. MishBocaRatonGrl says:

    I bought a Black Lace Bustier a garter set… and a red and black Chemise thats quite see through, some random pairs of lace boy shorts, and thongs…

    Loveeee it!

  267. MishBocaRatonGrl says:

    I had the house to myself last night, Roommate was out of town for bizz.
    So I walked around in my heels and lingerie. I have to admit I was staring at myself from all angles, in the mirror.

    🙂 I Buy a good amount of VS, but… I shop for lingerie every where…sexy lingerie really can brighten my day *smiles sweetly*

    Is it bad that I have certain heels , just to match my Lingerie? hehe

  268. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Good morning all. Went on yet another interview. I have 2 second interviews set up for next week. I hate this process. The reason I stay at my jobs for so long. I hate interviewing.

  269. OCSugarBaby says:

    Hey Mish-tell us what you bought! Fredricks is fun, so many colors to choose from…

  270. Spanish Vixen says:

    kitty! GREAT profile!! Your pictures are super cute!

    I did have a sexy evening last night. And am now completely exhausted from….hehehehehehe.

    I wanted to ask…sugars, what’s the wierdest thing that’s happened to you with an SD/SB. I ask this, because I’ve found that some sugars are kind of…dumb…when it comes to discretion. Like one SD I was considering and we were getting along great decided to make a facebook and friend me. No issues at all so I accepted…and then he added his wife as a friend…and she was all over it wondering who I was. I don’t wanna be shot!

  271. lisa says:

    I live 4 blocks from all the good stores, VS and Fredricks, and i’m only a few miles from the upscale galleria where all the designer stores are, but i’m broke 🙁 need a sugar daddy to help me restock my lingerie drawers. lol

  272. A. says:

    Good morning all! I have a Lhasa Apso named Nemo…

    To be honest, I had much rather sleep in a mans’ button up shirt….sexy!

    I’ve been waiting for my lover for two months now….:P

  273. ~*kittylainy*~ says:

    Morning dear sugars,
    Hope everyone had a sexy evening last night…
    I’ve edited my profile desc. a tad, I went with a more educated and fullfilling experience than just shouting S.E.X. Hope it might liven things up a bit. I am also going to change and crop my pics, I just need to find an opportune moment when I am not on my blackberry and able to go on SA.

    have a look and let me know

  274. OCSugarBaby says:

    AngelSB- Welcome! I think that all we SB’s (either gay or straight) can do to make our SD’s happy is to be honest, caring, confidant, good listener, positive attitude and sexy as hell! I love reading the old blog entries (I know I sound like a broken record on this). They are so interesting. Some of my favorite ones are the Fantasies thread. It is STEAMY! lol

  275. gurlnextdoor says:

    Good morning everyone, just woke up to a beautiful day. The sun is shining, the sky is blue, and my house is completely silent. Ahh, could life get any better. 🙂 Mish I wish we had a Fredricks here, my roommate buys some stuff from their website sometimes. I like their stuff better because it’s sexier and costs less than alot of VS stuff.

  276. Spanish Vixen says:

    @lisa: fredrick’s stuff can def be sexier, but it also breaks in like 2 days. I’ve got some SUPER hot stuff from VS that I adore 😀

    good morning everyone! Hope you’re all doing well. So I randomly met up with my new SD yesterday evening. He must REALLY like me, because he was always telling me about not wanting to really text or call (only call if we need to) but rather just e-mail, since the other two leave paper trails. Well he continually texted me last night! I’m meeting him tomorrow after my body painting shoot 🙂

    on to the questions!

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?

    I could. I can’t help it, I’m a very loving person. And if I like the person I’m with, I fall in love. It’s not a huge deal, it isn’t an “oh my god marry me plz” love, but more of just my affections for the person I’m with showing through. It makes it exciting. And when it’s mutual, the time we spend together is just that much more fun.

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?

    I think that eventually I will get married and all, but I’m not going to just stay at home and be domestic. As a journalism major, I have high hopes of going to the big city and writing for an awesome mag company. So I plan on being in a chaotic lifestyle until I die.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?

    I used to think so, but one thing I’ve learned is that MANY men (and women) are unfaithful. And honestly, when I get married, I would hope that my partner would understand. I will probably want to have an open marriage…but who knows…things could change.

    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?

    Nothing. I’ve dated a lot of people. I’ve been screwed over by a lot of people. But I’ve also looked at my parents who have been married for 27 years and my grandparents who’ve been married for nearly 60 years. While my dating spurts may have been short, the feelings I have for the people I date during that time are true and intoxicating. I know it won’t last forever, but it doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy it either way.

  277. BettieGirlDD says:

    Fredericks is awesome. They sell more corsets and burlesquey looking stuff and I think their bras last longer.. I should test bras for Consumer Reports.

  278. lisa says:

    Good morning everyone. Off from work today so I slept in and feel really good now.

    Mish, I think Fredricks has sexier stuff that VS, I mean the last time I was in VS, there were familiers and kids everywhere

    Just relaxing, watching some tv and waiting for my lover to come over. My inbox is still empty even though I have had several more views.

  279. NC Gentleman says:

    Good morning all!

  280. BlondieNYC says:

    Gordon, you have a Corgi??? Oh they’re the cutest! I have a Papillon mix- super mischievous.

  281. BlondieNYC says:

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?

    There are different levels of love and attachment. I have very good friends that I love, so why not? I think if you have mutual respect, good communication, consideration and all the other goodies, you develop (I hope) a deep friendship which is, to me, a type of love.

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?

    It all depends on the person. I learned the hard way that if you “settle” you’re miserable. Life is too damn short to be miserable. I don’t want to settle or completely lose my sense of self to be in a relationship. It’s not worth it.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?


    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?

    Too many times I’ve been involved with men who wanted to change aspects of me that initially attracted them to me. Which doesn’t make sense, but there you go.

    I’m an emotionally strong and independent woman and am fed up with only weak-willed men who try to date me. I’m not a psychologist nor do I play one on television.

    I’m tired of always being the “strong” one and would like to be adored and spoiled, dammit! I want to find someone who is successful, interesting, fun and intelligent who will take me as I am with whatever time constraints I have.

    Part-time is perfect for me. I may be very gregarious, but I do love my solitude too.

  282. BettieGirlDD says:

    Mornin sugars.. I think Im gonna take NC’s advice to SoCo and put in my profile that allowance would go to luxuries for me only, and payments on the loans for that masters degree which has made me the compelling companion I am. Ooh Compelling Companion.. that might be my new title…

    Heres hopin Mish didn’t get tangled up in her garters last night…

  283. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Gordon: Glad your date went well, it wold be odd to be in an ovarian cancer research benefit.

  284. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Mish: oo Fredricks… we don’t have that in Canada, is it a sexy lingere store?

  285. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    GURLNEXTDOOR: what got everyone interested in this type of dating (the SD/SB arrangement)???

    I have dated a lot of guys, and I would give and give and give (both financially, emotionally and of course physically) and get nothing in return. I feel like I am being taken advantage of. Moreover, the typical dating scene uses so much conniving tactics and games and I am so sick of it. Nothing is honest and straight forward, but with a SB/SD relationship, I tell SD what I want and what I want to give, and SD tells me what he wants and wants to give and we work out an agreement so there’s no need to bother with the little games.
    That is why I get so frustrated when SDs act like little teenage boys and lie, dodge this, dodge that and beats around the bush. Please go to e harmony or sexyads for that nonsense.

  286. AngelSB says:

    hey to everyone,

    i was reading this blog today and i really enjoy seeing all of your ideas. I saw one of the reader saying maybe i should leave the site i am not lucky… Don’t do that, coz every one of us will get lucky one day. Just believe in and be positive.

    Is in the blog any gay SD too ???? But Serious as i have meet few really “mad” ones on the site. I was first think that men in age will have some brains but the on the end no even worst then kids…

    So anyone of you can recommend what on SUGAR BOY who is gay should do to make a sugar daddy really happy?

    Any successful stories that you can share ?

  287. dreamer says:

    awww Gordon! it was great of you to be such a good sport.. At least you had fun.. And you get points for the puppy! i love an sd with a dog 😀

  288. MishBocaRatonGrl says:

    Well today I went and spoiled myself, went to fredricks of hollywood and bought some sexy lil numbers 🙂 I’ll sleep in one tonight just for the hell of it

  289. Gordon says:

    Hello everyone. I don’t mean to interrupt. As I said earlier this evening I had a date tonight. I must report that it was the oddest date I have had in a while. I was the invited escort of a lady friend to a benefit cocktail party, sounds well but the benefit was for ovarian cancer research. A worthy cause of course but not the subject of cocktail banter. I was a good date and did not ask for numbers from other women, partly because I am a gentleman and partly because I was at an Ovarian Cancer Research event!

    Now I am home with my corgi and a nightcap watching a Frank Sinatra, Gene Kelly movie. My life felt a little more glamorous a few hours ago.

  290. Atlantian says:

    I have a early and intense morning tomorrow. I actually must ride a bike to class in order to get to all of mine on time. ugh. Well, good night everyone! Hope you all have wonderful tomorrows!!!

    GO SEC!!! (Just thought I’d mention that since Florida won the BCS…even the UGA winning it would have been so much sweeter.)

  291. lisa says:

    Well I have been married, had my husband leave me when I was 8 months pregnant, I have met single men who were either those weird guys that are 40+ and never married but love to spend time with their nieces and nephews (that just creeps me out for some reason), dated divorced dads who were “too busy” to date, or those whose grown children used them as babysitters or chaufers, I have had a relationship with a married man (turned out to be the best relationship as he is completely normal, intellegent, educated and classy but he isnt’ a sugardaddy,
    so now I want to meet a nice man to have fun with and a few years down the road all the men my age that are divorced with small children, will have their children grown up and maybe be able to date again.
    single men my age are simply unavailable for real relationships. I have raised my daughter and am not looking to take on a busy divorced dad that only wants to do kiddy things. nothing against single dads, but I want someone for one on one fun.

    Good night everyone. I’m finallly off tomorrow, gonna sleep late and then my married lover is stopping by. he has been a way a month and I sure do miss him

  292. gurlnextdoor says:

    Yeah I’m with Atlantian. I want to get married ONE day. Just not anytime in the near future, meaning not before I graduate from college. Anyway, I’m off to bed now, just finished talking to my main potential SD (hopefully soon I’ll be able to call him my only SD 🙂 ), and I’m sleepy now. *yawn* Good night to all of you sugars everywhere.

  293. Summer says:

    Marriage? Been there, done that….got the t-shirt. Done with it! lol:)

    That’s why I’m a Sugar Baby now! Finally getting to experience unconditional, no-strings love for the first time in my life is so wonderful!

    I honestly don’t think I could go back to traditional dating or marriage again because boyfriends and husbands get too “comfortable” and start taking you for granted. Forgetting birthdays, anniversaries, not complimenting you when you look good for them, for taking care of the house/kids/business, etc…for not spoiling you with thoughtful little gifts “just because”….and taking you out for date nights like you did when the romance first began. After awhile, it’s just dullsville…

    My sugar daddies have always treated me better and with more respect than the men I’ve dated or married. And if the SD starts getting too “comfortable” and takes me for granted, at least I can dump him without feeling guilty or being encumbered legally or emotionally.

    That’s why NSA rocks!:)

  294. Atlantian says:

    I do want to get married. Just one of those things that I want to experience before I die. If it doesn’t work out, then it’s not for me. I’m just the type of girl who likes being the adorable girlfriend that he can take home to his parents who embrace me like a daughter. haha yeah, I’m sappy.

  295. dreamer says:

    ooooh yay! im glad to hear other ‘swing both ways’ sbs come out on the blog.. I thought i was the only one forever! Haha.. NC, i got that mail.. Thank you very much for helping me out during one of my blonde moments.. And GAIL! where are you? i miss you 🙁

  296. BlkButtafly says:

    I think I could definitely love a SD without strings attached, especially if he’s married. I actually prefer to them to be married but I’m not too picky about that. I also think it would be easier to love a SD with nsa if he didn’t live in the same city as me.

  297. BlkButtafly says:

    Like the thoughts of the ladies that commented at the beginning of this blog, conventional dating has just left me discouraged. I’m always giving of myself and they are always interested in themselves. I never asked for anything (I still hate doing so today) and just tried to love them with all my heart but I always felt like I was getting maybe 50 to 70% of theirs 🙁

  298. gurlnextdoor says:

    Hate to get off topic again, but what got everyone interested in this type of dating (the SD/SB arrangement)???

    For me it was the fact that I saw it this way: I can have all the good things associated with a relationship (fun dates, companionship, intimacy, etc.) without the hassles of a traditional relationship (jealousy, those “where are you at” calls, drama, etc.)

  299. lisa says:

    I have tried marriage and conventional dating, both were temporary with little to show for it other than bad memories or disappointments. I’m looking to enjoy myself a little now, be more light hearted on issues that concern me when i’m in a committed relationship or marriage, and I want to get something out of it instead of being used and getting nothing out of the relationship.

  300. kittylainy says:

    I like leacing the ball in SDs court as well, I think it works well. It makes myself seem less desperate and I am not sitting around wondering why he didn’t call etc etc

  301. OCSugarBaby says:

    Finally back on topic!

    “Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?”
    ~ Yes, I have NO interest in being married again and conventional dating became dull. I don’t want to marry again because I don’t feel it is right for me. I do not have children and know that I will not have them in the future, so marriage does factor into the two parent raising of children scenario. Conventional dating was becoming stale. Friday night sushi, Saturday night dinner with other couples (friends), Sunday night go out to a movie. I wanted to feel like I was appreciated and desired! I am a huge romantic but just needed the right person to be the real ME with. Not the perfect girlfriend that his friends and family adore. I wanted to be un-conventional! Now I have the opportunity to do just that.

  302. bostonTerrier says:

    i’ve found that always putting the ball in the sd’s court is the best way to go … that way you know if he is interested by his response or lack of response. like a “contact me when you get back from your trip” or something like that. if they don’t remember/don’t do it then they were not worth your time

    i would always make sure to mention “if you’re really interested” in some way shape or form to my messages and at the same time i’d never respond to his messages or calls asap … making them wait a bit – like a day or so – helps.

  303. lisa says:

    Good evening everyone. Back from work and meeting my daughter to take her some things. More profile views but no emails 🙁

    I think I can love without being commited or expecting anything. I love my married lover and although there is no future with him, he’s the best thing that’s happened to me in a long time. As far as being involved with a married man or married sd, in my experience there isn’t any difference.
    People would put me down saying I should n’t settle for seconds and that i need to find a single man that will put me first. well personallly I have found that single men in my age group (40) are either divorced and have ex wives and young children and child support to pay for many years, little league games, etc, or they are never marrieds that are looking for a younger woman to marry and have a family with. The last 2 single men I dated were too busy with their jobs, travel with work, sharing joint custody with their 2 boys under 10 (the guy was 54 and had two small kids), or in the case of the other guy who’s children were grown, he was always having to drive on them to the airport or baby sit while they went out, so
    I don’t feel like i’m lowering my standards if I choose to get involved with a married man, from my experience single men can be just as unavailable.

  304. alittleshy says:

    Hi everyone – ..hope it’s not too late to add to the no-sex marriage discussion. I was married for many years, divorced now, and I was the one that just couldn’t maintain the physical intimacy as I had lost respect and emotional connection for my partner. Suffice to say that since my divorce, my drive has returned tenfold. It’s about the quality of the relationship you share, married or not married. And definitely you can feel care and respect (not necessarily love) for someone enough to feel physically attracted to them, IMHO. I feel that way about the potential SDs that I have recently met. I am waiting for the right relationship to unfold and know it will take both me and my special SD to a wonderful place.

  305. A. says:

    Have a splendid evening everyone….I’m off to bed early to watch some movies.


  306. Atlantian says:

    Gordon, you tried Millionare Matchmaker? It sounds so intense, but I guess you get what you pay for.

    And yes those two friends were such an annoyance to watch. I could not double date like that. Thank goodness you didn’t get sucked into that, Wildwon!

    I’m joining the pity part with you guys! I need some emails in my inbox…

  307. gurlnextdoor says:

    lol Kitty your so mischievous…I’m going to join in the pity party today. I had been talking to this SD for like a month and we had planned to have lunch when he got back from his trip to Europe which was over 2 weeks ago. Now, today I see he’s online and when I say hi to him I get no response. 🙁

  308. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    A. I am being totally serious here 🙂

  309. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    haha u kidding me?!! NC’s all up in our goodies, he would not pass on a chance for something like that….
    If he refuses, I’ll make him even if we have to drag him

  310. sweetredhead269443 says:

    You girls are going to give the poor man a heart attack!

  311. A. says:

    OOOOO…goodie, goodie!

  312. A. says:

    Kitty that sounds nice….you think he would be up for it…giggle, giggle.

  313. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    NC’s in 🙂

  314. Wildwon says:

    Atlantian, so you are seeing the pure toolness of the best friends on Millionaire Matchmaker again? I can’t believe I spent two months talking to that guy! Seriously I need to look for him on this website, I bet he’s here!

  315. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    HMMM…. we’ll get NC to pay for the vacation and we’ll let him join in the fun~ if he’s good haha

  316. Wildwon says:

    I’m down for the pity party! I met a great guy last month and have been waiting to hear from him and depressed! I finally sent an email today but haven’t heard back. Poor me! I really want to understand how a seemingly great guy, who seemingly had a great guy, gave me a very generous “gift” and then just disappears…ugh, I wish these guys were serious about “cultivating” the arrangement…

    again, I’m down for the pity party!

  317. A. says:

    OOOOO Kitty, I might just take you up on that offer. I’m serious…the door swings both ways with me…..lol.

  318. sweetredhead269443 says:

    Is this a married SB coming out party lol

  319. Classy Lady says:

    SoCo please don’t give up your search for your SD. He is out there somewhere. I, too, am a married SB. My husband knows that I am a SB because we are in an open marriage but yet a committed one. I have/want a SD not to support me and my husband but to provide me the extras and luxuries I can not obtain just like any single SB who can support herself but yet wants more. Furthermore, as for travel, I am sure there are many married SBs who can travel…..I have and do!!!

  320. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    aww A.
    Come to Canada and I will teach you to ski… we can have our romantic ski date and a 3-some by the fire! haha
    *pours A a glass of wine*

  321. A. says:

    The only pot. I have left now lives in Santa Barbara and goes skiing at Mammoth every weekend. I wish he would come to the Northeast so he could take me skiing. He would have to teach me though…lol. I think it would be a fun and very romantic date. He’s married though and only comes this way for biz. *Sigh*
    I’ll never see this guy, but I love talking to him. Who else wants to join the pitty party? Anyone?

  322. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    just thought I would throw it out there

  323. NC Gentleman says:

    Good night all — thanks for all the constructive banter and support. I hope everyone has a great evening!

  324. NC Gentleman says:

    Hi Soco — if you put in your profile what you just put in your blog posting, I think that would make a lot more SDs interested. I wouldn’t have a problem spoiling a married SB, but providing a monthly allowance would be really odd to me.

  325. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    I haven’t even considered the increased amount of SDs out there.. YAY!

  326. A. says:

    Hi Gordon – Welcome back!! Hi SoCo – you have a very interesting situation there…keep us posted. Hello to everyone else on the blog this evening!!!

    I don’t have any advice or insight…sorry.

  327. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    e’re both out of school…
    I’m a business major, and I work for an international company, so I can easily get a transfer. And she is a free-lance journalist.
    We are in our priliminary stages of planning, we haven’t even thought of most of the details yet. Eg) Work Visas etc.. etc…

  328. gurlnextdoor says:

    Awesome Kitty! I always wanted to visit California, maybe my SD will take me there on one of his “business” trips. 🙂

  329. BeautifulBluegrass says:

    OK, what part of LA or San Diego? Are you in school or do you have job offers out there? I am so excited for you!! I bet there are tons of SDs out there *sigh*

  330. SoCo says:

    I’m not looking for someone to pay my bills or provide necessities…hubby does that, but what I am looking for is someone to spend exciting evenings with a couple of times a month and to provide some luxuries that I otherwise would not be able to attain on my own. I’ve never been to a spa or shopped at Neiman Marcus and I would love to be able to experience these things before I die. My SD wouldn’t be paying my husband’s way. The assistance I would receive would be for my own personal use and be kept in my personal bank account.

    Oh well, we’ll see what happens. I’ve been on the site for couple of months now and have talked to some interesting people, but haven’t found the right guy yet. I’ve just re-written my profile in hopes that it will give me a little boost, but will post my profile number when it is approved.

    Thanks everyone!

  331. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    My rooommate and I decided on this a few evenings ago that we would move together in the summer when our lease is up.
    She wants los angeles area (for the glitze and glam), but I want san diego because of the mountains

  332. Gordon says:

    Atlantian, I talked to Millionaire Matchmaker but they too West Coast oriented.

  333. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    bluegrass: I tihnk in the main blog page

  334. BeautifulBluegrass says:

    Yay Kitty!! Thats where I am from, and I miss it. I KNOW you will have a blast. Where exactly are you going to move to?

  335. Gordon says:

    There are many less interesting reality shows then this blog.

    Ladies, listing to you chat with each other makes me feel like a peeper but I like it.

    Gentleman, have you ever been in a mens room at a club with thin walls and heard the chatter from the womens room. XXX rated 😉

  336. gurlnextdoor says:

    Oh yeah, Atlantian there is a marathon on today. I was watching it but then one of my potential SD’s started texting me and I lost all interest, lol.

  337. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Atlantian: Never seen that show… any good? me and my roommamte would make the best duo to go on that show. we’re both young, hot, materialsitc and fun.

    btw: I am MOVING TO CALIFORNIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  338. NC Gentleman says:

    Hi Gordon — welcome to the blog. There are a lot of great people here and it is a great place to exchange ideas & thoughts in a civilized manner. I put my profile number up once and started getting a lot of SBs AND SDs viewing my profile — I guess checking out the competition lol Hope you find the right one for you 🙂

  339. BeautifulBluegrass says:

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?
    I could love them, but be in love with them. My feelings would be akin to feelings I have for friends, or the 3 ex-bfs I am friends with.
    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?
    Nope. Each relationship is different because each person has different needs and brings different things to the table.
    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?
    No again. Someone please remind me… what year is this? Oh, right!!!! Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?
    At this point in time I don’t want a conventional relationship, and marriage is out of the question. I don’t want to put in the time, effort, emotion as well as avoid the drama and messiness that sometimes comes with the territory.

  340. gurlnextdoor says:

    Well, NCGent I commend you. You did try to make things work, some men don’t even go that far, and the fact that you were able to go 2 years without sex is amazing to me. I know I couldn’t do it, lol. Anyway, I think that it’s selfish to do something on the side if you don’t try to work things out first. But if you try, as NCGent did, then I think it’s justifiable to find what you’re looking for somewhere else. I know I would.

  341. Atlantian says:

    I’m watching the Millionaire Matchmaker episode with the best friends!
    They were really immature.

  342. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Hey Gordon,
    Welcome to the blog.. I think I might have said Hi already *waves anyways*
    Ya, it’s funny there are probably lots of stalkers that reads us like a reality show. but out of sight, out of mind right?…

  343. Gordon says:

    Hi, just stopping by to say hello. I joined yesterday and wish to thank the bloggers for you advice and support. I actually got better response from the blog entries then from the profile. Apparently there are many people reading this blog who don’t post.
    Thanks again.

  344. NC Gentleman says:

    Hi Bettie — lack of sex was just the case for me and I am sure there are lots of other justifiable reasons. Other than the sex, my wife and I get along fine. It is like living with my college room mate though, accept my college room mate was male and wasn’t hot lol I am not sure if I will spend the rest of my life with her kitty, but definitely until my daughter graduates college. I also keep thinking my sex drive will go away, and that will make things better.

    also Bettie — I guess I always considered married women as someone for an affair and not an SB. Personally, I just feel odd having a married woman as an SB and there are so many single women for potential SBs, that I haven’t really had to expand my boundaries to married women as potential SBs…. maybe I am missing something, but I don’t how see a married woman is going to go on a business trip with me for 5 days

  345. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    I know I will leave this blog, and talk to my co-workers and their views would be completely different. The views of extra-marital affair would be bitter and angry. It’s like the “real-world” perspective and this is a completely different world.

  346. sweetredhead269443 says:

    NC I have heard that story many times. Its is sad. Something I will never understand. I was married 20 yrs and the longest we ever went was a week. I can’t imagine not wanting to be intimate with your partner.

  347. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Bettie: i don’t think sex should be the only reason, feelings like emotional isolation and alienation are justified causes too.

  348. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    NC: As always… good insight… I wouldn’t have waited 2 years, that’s unacceptable….I would’ve cheated after 1 month. So you still plan to spend the rest of your life with her?

  349. BettieGirlDD says:

    NC – Why should sex be the only thing someone’s allowed to step out for if their spouse is too lazy or selfish to provide it at home.. let’s say someones husband up and quits his job at will.. spends bill money on hockey jerseys… doesnt hold doors anymore.. and for those reasons feels isolated and too frustrated to be intimate with the cause of 75% of her struggles? Is taking care of a woman who “should” be getting it from home really any different?

  350. Wildwon says:

    Is that quote on the cartoon a Winston Churchill goody?

  351. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Speaking of school….. I applied to school to get a loan for school 8(true intention to study) but I just haven’t gotten the motivation to study. it’s an online course for MBA. And Guess what? the due date is the end of January. The text books are still sitting in the unopened box that it came in. The money given to me from the government is all spent.

    I am such a bad girl…

  352. Wildwon says:

    Well put on both posts NCGent! If your girl Monday doesn’t work out… :oP

  353. NC Gentleman says:

    I agree with Wildwon — courtesans, mistresses, “chippies”, etc have existed for hundreds of years. I used to think it was odd, but now I completely understand.

  354. NC Gentleman says:

    Kitty — three to five years ago, I would have been very upset if my wife had a relationship with someone else. Now, I guess it wouldn’t really matter. It is not like I wasn’t monogamous for 17 years and didn’t try everything I could think of to try to recreate some spark. Try going without sex with another person for two years and let me know how you feel about it. Throw a little temptation in there too – attractive women approach me all the time.

    It is easy to say just get divorced, but then I get to spend every other weekend with my daughter – why should I be punished that way — I wasn’t the one who decided that I didn’t want sex anymore.

  355. BettieGirlDD says:

    I can understand, as a married SB that my SD wouldn’t want to be ‘supporting’ another man in theory.. If he asks, he’ll know my alloawnce is going towards just my own clothes and student loans.. But Let’s say 8 months in I call him standing ankle deep in water because my hot water tank’s exploded.. is he going to send me half the money to fix it?
    If anything I’d like my SD to appreciate that Im not just seeking money, but much needed attention and creature comforts. Call it “husbandly duty.”

    Like Kitty (like always) I dont Like the idea of infidelity but I think there is so much grey area.

  356. Wildwon says:

    Don’t worry it’s a fine line to walk. I have never cheated, but was never really given a reason to cheat, so to speak. I have only been intimate with one married man, but I kind of look at it as though I could be helping their relationship. I have heard many times how having a “chippie” on the side can improve a marriage. There are so many different types of marital relationships, just look at SoCo!!

  357. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:


  358. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Wildwon: ooo… I know… I’ve cheated many many times… I know for a fact that if my partner stopped having sex with me, I would find someone that would I have stated that earlier…
    but I think I am going to shy away from this topic right now because I would (if not have already) contradict myself, there is the traditional side of me talking that saids and knows that cheating is a relationship no/no… but I DO IT ANYWAYS….. and I sleep with married men as well…

    so I am jsut going to shut up~

  359. Wildwon says:

    Haha, I meant old fashioned in spending time with only one person at a time. So if I did have an ongoing SD relationship I would not have another “committed” relationship.

  360. Wildwon says:

    Kitty, if your partner stopped having sex with you, what would you do? Just live without? Who is really being selfish?

    And there is no way of knowing whether Mrs. NCGent does have another life, I know plenty of married women that cheat, it’s not just men…keep that in mind!

  361. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    wildwon: haha so there’s an old fashion SD/SB relationship and a new age SB/SD relationship? haha we’re evolving pretty fast haha….

  362. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    Mish: ask ur SD to take u! I’m sure he’ll love to

  363. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    gurlnextdoor: but isn’t it selffish to disregard the feeling of the other partner and cheat?

    SOCO: let’s have a look see at ur profile maybe we can provide some insight.

  364. Wildwon says:

    Hey SoCo, welcome! How long have you been on? I do think it would be harder to be a married SB, seeing that the support given to you would be supporting another man, which can seem odd and/or awkward for a SD. I’ve even seen profiles that don’t want the SB to have a boyfriend because of paying for another guy.

    As far as luck, this is a marathon and not a sprint so since it may be harder for you something tells me it’s not impossible. There are so many different types of people and expectations, but you have to be patient in finding the right one.

    Personally I can’t imagine being attached and being in a traditional SD/SB relationship, I guess in some ways I’m old fashioned ;o)) HAHA!!!

  365. ~*Kittylainy*~ says:

    ok.. so I am no longer a traffic hazard, (no longer driving on my blackberry blogging… I have issues I know) I can actually follow the conversation.

    NC; I’m glad you decided to chime in. Your rationality kind of makes sense. But like you said you’re just rationalizing your behavior. How would you feel if she has a separate life?

    SoCo: welcome!! glad you decided to join in on the conversation.

    *Lays down on psychologist chair*
    I try very hard to detach myself from the thoughts like, “how would you feel if the person you gave your life to is sleeping with someone else?” or “how do you think his wife feels.” These are all dangerous waters for me and I choose to ignore these thoughts. Perhaps I haven’t 100% adapted to the lifestyle.

    ok let’s go back to the Qs

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?
    ~I don’t think I can, I can care deeply about them like a Best friend, but I don’t think I can Love a SD without strings attached, to me, that’s not a sb/sd relationship, that’s a swingers relationship.

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?
    ~Settling is another dangerous word to me. It means 1 of two things:
    a) Being married and be monogomous and no more fun games
    b) Knowing that there are probably something better out there, but decided to not pursue the chase anymore.
    Neither of them are good, so no, I will never settle. Especially knowing there is someone better more perfect out there. I do believe that being married means that you have to settle-down because, you have… settled.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?
    ~I have no thoughts on this one….

    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?
    ~When we found out my father had a second family in China. Right there, I have decided men cannot have settle (there’s that dreaded word again) and therefore, I never believe a man will be forever faithful and I do not expect them to.

    I like this blog, because I think it can provide a lot of insight… but I cannot wrap my head around it 100%… sorry not very useful today

  366. SoCo says:

    Maybe I should give up because I’ve had no luck on the site…

  367. gurlnextdoor says:

    Wildwon I completely agree. I don’t think it’s fair to expect your partner to go the rest of their life without sex, just because you don’t want to have any anymore. That’s plain selfishness, and love (which is what most marriages claim to be based on today) has no room for selfishness.

  368. MishBocaRatonGrl says:

    I want my SD to take me to Disney World…


  369. NC Gentleman says:

    Hi SoCo — welcome to the blog. For me, a married SB is less desirable. It just feels weird to be supporting a married SB. Perhaps I am being hypocritical but that is how I feel about it.

  370. SoCo says:

    Is a married SB less desireable to a SD than a single SB?

  371. Wildwon says:

    Thanks for the warm welcome! Good luck on Monday! Anticipation is the ultimate aphrodisiac ;o) I’m jealous!

  372. NC Gentleman says:

    Welcome back Wildwon! We missed you. I haven’t found the perfect SB for me yet, but I am excited about someone that I am meeting on Monday 🙂

  373. Wildwon says:

    Hey NCGent! I’m sure your wife probably does know about your “extra-curricular” activities and does choose to ignore it because it gets her off the hook. If I was married and stopped performing my marital duties I would have no problem with my husband seeking what I’m not willing to give. Although I don’t think this could ever be the case with me!

    A healthy rationalization maybe, but I don’t know how anyone could deny their partner the intimacy we all crave!

    Have you found your perfect girl? Still trying to catch up on all I’ve missed!

  374. Wildwon says:

    i don’t necessarily see the SD/SB relationship as a traditional love relationship, more like mutual caring and respect. If it did turn to love than the relationship would undoubtedly change. People expect more when “true love” feelings become involved.

    Personal experience in traditional dating has definitely changed my attitude towards marriage and commitment. Too much expectation in traditional dating has scarred me, this type of relationship is much more suitable, I’m fairly independent and don’t like being overly questioned all the time. I just had a potential SD tell me that maybe I just haven’t met the right person, that was awkward! All is not lost, maybe he is right?

  375. NC Gentleman says:

    I am a married SD and the reason I am on the site is that my wife has completely lost interest in sex; and trust me, I have tried everything I can. We still get along well, and my daughter would get crushed if we got divorced so I stick with it. I also have no desire to have sex with an escort – I don’t think it would be very fulfilling other than physiologically…. I think my wife knows about my other life but she chooses to ignore it. I was monogamous for 17 years, and went 2 years without sex. My marriage actually got better when I found an SB because my wife and I stopped fighting about sex… maybe a healthy rationalization but it is what it is….

  376. Atlantian says:

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?
    With my personality, I’m just not the type to ever “settle-down”. When I get married, I expect to live a very similar lifestyle, but with someone by my side.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?
    I would say loves relies on a lifetime commitment. I think that monogamy can be fine, as long as you’re both happy. But if it isn’t, there should be some honesty.

    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?
    Ex-boyfriends have ruined conventional dating for me. Like gurlnextdoor, I gave much of myself to the guys with nothing much in return. And that always hurts, because you always think it’s going to be better, but then it’s not. With an SD, you know that you’re going to get something from what you give.

  377. kittylainy says:

    I think “love” is a socially constructed ideology… And even moreso, monogamy. Not necessaily a lifestyle. But we are humans, we have feelings and emotions and this “love” is something we must feel, a long with jealousy, loneliness etc.
    I cannot comment further on this topic because I am afraid I might contradict myself. I am also fearing that I might be trying to justify my “homewrecking” relationship. I can comment all I want, but it might not reflect my day to day feelingfs and thought.. Sorry for the broken thoughts but I am on my blackberry.

  378. SoCo says:

    I’ve been hovering for a while and I really enjoy reading all of the posts. I thought I would chime in on one of the questions asked in this post.

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?
    I’m a married SB and my husband is fully aware of what I’m doing. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I have to say that while I have yet to find an arrangement, this has added some spice to our relationship. This was a mutual agreement between the both of us and we are happy with the decision we made. Would I say that getting married means that you have to settle down? In my case, no it doesn’t.

  379. OCSugarBaby says:

    I honestly believe you can Love without strings attached? Heck yes! To me that means showing a caring respectful interest in someone else without unrealistic expectations or demands. I would not want someone to only love me if I acted a certain way or dressed a certain way. Love should have NO strings attached. 🙂

  380. bostonTerrier says:

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?
    i would love my sugar daddy just as i love my closest friends and i would consider that NSA. if i began to love them in a different way, it’s not NSA and i’d have to end the relationship unless the feeling was mutual and wanted by both parties. when i love someone, i love them … i can’t be in love with someone NSA. that is just not in my nature.

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?
    when i think of “settling” i think of getting married. when i think of marrying i think of “settling down” – the two are interchangeable for me.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?
    without a doubt it relies on monogamy. settling down, it relies on both monogamy and lifetime commitment.

    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?
    nope, nothing has. i look forward to a few years down the line when i am *hopefully* 25 and married. i can’t think of a single friend of mine who is less interested in it.

  381. gurlnextdoor says:

    Could you ‘love’ a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby without strings attached?

    I could, I don’t think love necessarily means you try to control a person. To me love is when you want a person to be happy in life, no matter what that entails. Love is (or at least should be) unconditional. It shouldn’t be a contract, it should be a bond between two people full of mutual respect, honesty, and the desire to make the other party happy.

    What are your thoughts on ’settling’? Does getting married mean that you have to ’settle-down’?

    I don’t believe in settling. I won’t settle for less than what I want and deserve in anything in life. I’m not married, but for me when I do get married I wouldn’t believe it meant I was settling down. I would hope it would mean I’m beginning a new chapter in my life with my best friend, lover, and confidante.

    Do you think love between intimate partners relies on monogamy or lifetime commitment?

    It relies more on a lifetime commitment. Monogamy can be misery if it is viewed as being merely a contract or set of rules you’re forced to abide by. Lifetime commitment means you are committed to making each other happy no matter what.

    Has something in your life made you less interested in marriage or conventional dating?

    My experiences with past boyfriends and dates has made me less interested in conventional dating. All of my exes were more concerned with making themselves happy, than making me happy, while I was the opposite. It was kind of like a one way street, where I gave my all to make them happy and barely received anything in return. But with an arrangement I know that all my effort to make my SD happy will not be in vain. I’ll receive as much, if not more, in return for what I give to them.