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Sugar Dating: The First Move



Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby – who’s the first to Give?

Someone has to go first. A Sugar Daddy might prefer to sit back and watch the messages pile up in his inbox, then choose from the many Sugar Babies vying for an arrangement with him. Yes, a Sugar Baby may do the same.

Once the messages have been exchanged and an arrangement is in the works, who is the first to give? Some say that Sugar Daddies should be the first to spoil, while others suggest that a Sugar Baby should give sugar in advance of a SD’s support.


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667 Responses to “Sugar Dating: The First Move”

  1. Anonymous says:

    It was never a relationship, it was a setup of gay MEN looking for rich women to steal their identities to live their lives as a female. Never met this person or gave him my information, hacking and stalking is what they do for a career, to steal from wealthy families, it’s a SCAM, hoax, setup of lies, deceit, FRAUD, betrayal. This soon bullshit comes to an end ….,

  2. tomate y el colesterol says:


  3. Marco says:

    I think it should be both. Love should always be a give and take relationship.

  4. beckee says:


  5. niceinred77 says:

    Good tips all over them! sorry about your run-ins with rude ones Candygirl. I can feel ya I’m not blonde or white either but I haven’t had any run-ins yet hopefully it won’t be any.

  6. the.one says:

    I also want to suggest…
    -Never email any of the men. They should come to you and ask if you will accept them. Otherwise, they feel like they are in control when you come to them. Unless you’re a stunning knock-out courting an 80 year-old I highly recommend making them put in the effort to court you.

    -Never make an arrangement over the phone. You can only get a read on someone face to face. You’re not a hooker. You’re an attractive educated woman who wants intimacy and help paying for school or rent. Making an arrangement on the phone is as easy to him ordering a pizza. Meet him for coffee. Only a truly serious SD would do it.

    -Once again, make them do all the talking. I can’t stress this enough. Otherwise you’ll only hear what you want to. It’s very important you show up to the first meeting looking AMAZING and remaining fairly quiet. He will make the effort to put you at ease and tell you how much he can help you in exchange for your time.

  7. the.one says:

    I screened 25 men before I chose who I’d move forward with. I let them do all the talking…which of course made them nervous. I asked what they think the ideal scenario would be and then silently decide if I’m comfortable with it.

    Seriously, you learn more when you talk less. I discovered a lot of shady guys who couldn’t afford me when I was screening all those men because when I was keeping my mouth shut, they would inevitably spill the beans. In the end, I found someone who respects me a lot and not by what he says but by what he does.

    I also would make it clear with them that if they want something crazy or super kinky in the sack, they need to find a hooker that can provide. I provide great conversation, I work hard to look good, I enjoy intimacy. I’m not a blow-up doll. I don’t answer to commands.

    Ladies, just because they’re giving you money does NOT mean they are in control. The one in control is the one who knows they can walk away from the arrangement whenever they want. Don’t forget that.

  8. Candygiirl says:

    proving they have it is not the issue…its those that flaunt it..then want you to fall at their feet or hop in a hotel bed before they assist are the ones that i have a distaste for. Do not waste my time with antics..I am straight forward and not shy…but i am a good person and expect to be treated with respect.

  9. Candygiirl says:

    Ok…i ran into this post as fast as I could and it would appear I got here a little late, however…i am beginning to feel like the real SD on this site are few and far between…I have to agree with Lisa and a few other ladies that said they are always quick to talk sex, but never want to discuss money..and I feel so dirty when they ask about sex first and I have to be the one to initiate talk of an allowance. Thus far Ive gone on two 1st dates and done the long conversations and Ive sent the pictures all of this without talk to money…but somehow they always brought up getting me on my back. I havent let it bother me, until i was rudely awoken this morning, by a man in the middle of a so called divorce saying to me, I may have said i would help you out, but you need to put out..its either you give up the sex or most men out here wont even look your way..so when you are ready to get off that pretty thang cal me. I was appalled. I had only spoken to this man over the phone..had not even met him in person yet.

    I am new to this…and so far…I have been hearing promises and I have been so genuine but its like they take you out the first time to see how far you will go..they know the chemistry is there, but since you wont sleep with them, they suddenly arent comfortable.

    And furthermore…some of these men are so rude. I am polite and even if I am declining and offer I respond. I am beginning to feel like because I’m not white or blonde that I’m supposed to be a whore/escort and just open my legs. I have had no luck meeting a genuine person and this is discouraging.

    I have no problem thanking someone or meeting someone’s needs as they see fit, if they are doing their part to make me happy or stable. So my answer would have to be, these men need to prove themselves first, because at the end of the day a woman does not need to prove she has a vagina and can use it. So let’s see if you have the money and are willing to spend it.

  10. Meredith says:

    I don’t quite understand the “cash payment before sex.” Surely it isn’t all about allowances? Being treated to a nice dinner and drinks, perhaps flowers, this is not nothing! I’d rather be given some quality kitchen essentials (well aged balsamic vinegar, truffle oil, good extra virgin olive oil, etc…), quality yarn to make him a fine, elegant scarf (or what have you), and a new sex toy every month for us both to enjoy than have a monthly cash allowance handed over.

  11. Tricia says:

    Hi everyone,

    Im new here and ahven’t met a SD yet, but I have enjoyed reading all the blogs, well most of them at least, Im still reading. Im still waiting for my profile to be approved as I recently updated it, so I can’t email anyone yet. I hope to keep reading and eventually meetinga SD where we can both be happy with an arriangement we decide on.

  12. Frosty says:

    MN_Guy, I understand what you’re saying. I think it’s hard fro SBs sometimes because I feel like we’re the party that gets taken advantage of more often… or at least we hear stories about it more. You’re right about the business transaction vs relationship thing though. I’ve had a couple of SDs say to me “I’ll give you $$$ if you give me XXX” and that’s not what I’m looking for at all. There have been a few SDs I’ve met up with and none of them seemed to go about it right a all in my opinion. I think establishing a rapport with your SD/SB is important and a lot of SDs forget that. It makes it hard to trust SDs in the future when they contact you. It gets even worse when an SD says they’ll fly you to meet them. If they’re not sincere or who they say they are you could end up in a strange state in a strange city with no one to turn too. I know this all falls into trust and things but you can’t blame a girl for wanting a little security. Then again I thin it’s all about ho she asks as well. If it’s just “Give me $$$ so I know you’re real” Then that’s a little less than tactful and not the way to go about it but maybe if she wants to know about your job or how you got there or something open up a little bit. It’ll be reassuring. That’s just how I feel though.

  13. MN_Guy says:

    FYI, i have no idea where that picture came from. It’s not me. odd.

  14. MN_Guy says:

    Hey all,

    I just wanted to put in my 2 cents here as an SD who has been taken advantage of a few times.

    It makes me not want to trust SB’s when they want “proof” of how serious I am. I read a lot of ads that intimate as much.

    No, it’s not only money. It’s also my self-respect for being fooled by someone. It’s hard to trust others when you get taken advantage of. The money means little to nothing. The self-respect means everything.

    Keep this in mind when you ask your SD to “put up or shut up”.

    What I want is a relationship, not a business transaction. I don’t mind, and even enjoy helping out someone in need. As such, I want to develop a rapport with someone. The money isn’t an issue, but I don’t want someone to make it the issue.

    Simply put, if you’re worried about the sincerity of your SD, then that can be discussed. If you’re worried you won’t get paid, then you’re not the kind of person I want to date.

  15. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i tried to answer but…. i’m new here too

  16. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    yes, sir!!

  17. raine says:

    *or here; check all that apply, I suppose.

    [Huh. There is a new topic. Shall check it out, then.]

  18. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    well sure, this site is just like “real life”… there are losers, people without class or common courtesy, or common sense… people stuck on themselves…

    and as in life, it takes work to find that diamond in the rough….

  19. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine VC come to the other blog!

  20. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ok i’m going to the other blog, i’m gonna answer!

  21. raine says:

    If one could buy class (or at least put it on layaway), everyone would have some. Common sense, same thing — except that’s FREE (you can find that on the side of the freeway if needed, but again, too much like right for many).

    The lack of one or both seems to jump out of some profiles, and maybe that’s what makes me tired sometimes. I know he’s in there somewhere, but whew!

  22. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    why not i answered this one first!

  23. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    ha! no thanks.

  24. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    be the first to answer!!!

  25. VillaCypris *276489* says:


    look there is a new blog topic…

  26. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Most of them don’t care , they think they are above and beyond that
    they are better than all, i have a client she is a multimillionaire and she is so down to earth, she worked for her money and hard, she was raise dirt poor so her values are still intact
    but most aren’t like that

  27. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    ha! yes! “class” transcends socio-economic strata… some of the poorest people i have ever know have exhibited more “class” than the “men” on SA who claim to live in bel air or NYC and make $1 million + …. some people just do not “get it”… and it’s their loss… they think money buys them status, and admiration, and adulation… where in fact, people only scorn them.

  28. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    VC~ i totally agree with you , it’s true a lot of these presumed big shots have no courtesy at all they don’t reply or even read your mail, fuck em
    so we are the 25+ group tonight lol

  29. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    so am I… over 25… and honestly raine, i think you have to take the attitude of ‘fukk it’… if you email someone and he doesn’t reply…. pffffffttt. happens to me all the time… and the greater the income and the greater the net worth, the more discourteous the men i have sent messages to have been… so if they are that fucking busy that they can’t give the courtesy of a reply, then screw them. he’s not someone with whom i’d want to be… manners and common courtesy mean a lot, and as we all know, class cannot be bought with money.. you either have it, or you don’t.

  30. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ you will be fine, stop fretting
    your smart and nice and you will find someone just for you
    i know it

  31. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    you will be fine, everyone will find someone, hey lots of guys don’t like skinny chicks you know
    and so what if your over 25 , so am i

  32. raine says:

    One part of my brain is all: “yes, you’re brand new and all, but you did some research [the blog]beforehand; you’ll be fine.”

    Then there’s the other one *le sigh*: “man, you think these other newbies had it rough?! Just wait for the degenerate goons to come at you with similar foolishness. Bonus: you’re full-figured and OVER 25! Heh heh, goodluckwiththat!”

    Obviously, the former can/should/MUST/WILL prevail [insert ‘doi’ here].

  33. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i will for sure
    i’ll let you know tomorrow if i got it

  34. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    you should! it’s an excellent film

  35. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    yeah we have tones of other things in common lol
    i’m gonna get that movie tomorrow, i’m gonna call the rental store see if they have it!

  36. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    it’s all about feng shui…. :)

    well, at least you are not a foot taller….
    doesn’t matter… our interest in quantum physics binds us together… regardless of heighth!

  37. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol yeah well i’m 6’1″ with heels lol

  38. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    if i’m putting notes in my freezer??/ why do they talk about that lol

  39. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    LoL… yea 36 and blonde… i’m 5’2″… 5’7″ with my italian stiletto heels… :)

  40. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    it IS amazing!!!!! employes quantum physics to explain energy and what follows from our consciousness and our choices… you would love it… if you’re putting notes in the freezer… ‘what the bleep do we know’.


  41. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    VC~ we like the same things funny!
    well let see 36, blond, and tall, ok 2 out of 3 lol

  42. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    really, is that the real name of it?
    i’m gonna rent that, it sounds amazing
    i love that stuff

  43. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    and there is the movie, “what the bleep do we know”… along the same lines… so much that we cannot see and cannot understand completely, taking place in the subtle dimensions, on an energetic level… fascinating.

  44. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ when something scares me , or makes me really upset, i write in on a piece of paper then trow it in the freezer i know it sounds stupid but the idea and fears will just go away. i did it this week,

  45. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i know i’ve been doing that for years and then a book comes out sheesh i could have written it lol
    one of my clients said that he stole my ideas in the book lol

  46. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    yes! BG. i watched that in 2006, in an entrepreneurship class for my MBA… not many people “got it”… but it’s real… thoughts create reality…

  47. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    stay positive and only good things will happen
    it’s hard sometimes, i know! i was there this week lol
    but i’m all good now

  48. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    There’s nothing to be afraid of on this site… most people are like you… normal, decent human beings, looking for a connection… of course, as in society in general, there will be predators, and fakes, and con men… but you have to overlook them, as they are not worth your time, and keep moving on until you find someone like yourself.

  49. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    The secret~

  50. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    consider this:

    The feeling of fear will always create a negative outcome. The feeling of love will always create a positive outcome. You receive what you focus on most. Stay in a state of love and you will attract all you desire.

  51. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ i know bad experiences you just need to step back take a look around then decide what you gonna do, you can’t stress about it!
    i know it’s scary to do something unknown but youre there
    one step at a time

  52. raine says:

    Oh, pardon me lisa; not going to bed just yet, just sayin’ (re: M13).

    Villa: you’re not that far off; I’m a little calmer than when I first signed up. However, having read all these bad experiences in such a short time caused me to freak out, making it VERY difficult to concentrate on just learning. As previously stated, I’m stressing on the lack of pics on my profile and whether I should edit same (and if so, how?). In summary, fear of the unknown before AND after the fact.

  53. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nite lisa

  54. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    got it!

  55. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    ‘nite lisa… stay safe!!!

  56. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    hmmm… nothing yet! am watching for it! thank you

  57. lisa says:

    I think i’m going to go watch some tv now. Gotta go to bed soon so I can get up at 6. Long work day ahead tomorrow. Have a good night everyone.

  58. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa~ lots of hypanics look like that

  59. lisa says:

    Lisa’s gang to protect sbs from scamming fake sds LV500k after louis vuitton 500 hundred thousand lol

  60. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    VC you got mail

  61. Beach_Girl*306486 says:


  62. lisa says:

    I have viewed that webpage before that is what the men in my neigborhood look like, even the non gang ones dress like thugs

  63. VillaCypris *276489* says:


  64. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol Lisa
    no they started it in LA actually

  65. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    vc what’s your mail i just got moderated trying to post something lol
    It;s on national geographic lol
    worlds most dangerous gangs

  66. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    raine – you seem to be freaked out about searching for an SD? yes? or am i reading you wrong?

  67. lisa says:

    Good night raine

  68. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    oh, the site that i gave you? i know!!!!!!!! damn it’s scary…!!!

  69. lisa says:

    I didn’t know they had metal concerts in El salvador
    yikes I used to be into heavy metal, hope I don’t start my own gang, lol
    Oh well lets see “Lisa’s sb gang” L-500k

  70. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    you know what i’m reading this site and it’s not at all what the guys on the documentary said it’s f**ked up

  71. raine says:

    Yes…they take misanthropy to levels that surpass average humans’ understanding…

    I just got over my irrational fears over this search…as for this, well, wish me luck sleeping tonight 😐

  72. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    it was started in the late 69 ’70s they came back from a metal concert and decided to start their own club!

  73. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    no that’s not why the gang started Lisa the guy who started it wanted to belong him and his friends it was just for fun, the fights and stuff started after that

  74. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    raine – look at dupont registry for cars… and robb report is a good resource as well…

  75. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    yeah it was really interesting i’m looking for it now

  76. lisa says:

    the original idea of the gang was to protect immigrants from el salvador from the mexicans in California . It was a protection kind of thing as there was some problems between the Mexicans and the newly immigrated salvadoreans. It quickly changed though

  77. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    wow. interesting! thanks :)

  78. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    you missed a great documentary girl, i’ll try and find the name for you

  79. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    between crime ms13gang there is a slash
    dot aspx

  80. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    i found a good site


  81. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    it was on Discovery i think saw it a few months ago, i knew of them so watched it
    i think it was called the international gangs or something it was really good
    they talked to some members, have them on tape and stuff saying what they do
    it was amazing to see
    and they first guy that started the gang was a head banger they started the gang for fun and their sign the devils horns totally metal! but it changed to fast

  82. lisa says:

    my neighborhood is almost all hispanic from el savador and honduras. A small number from Mexico. The businesses in this area are all owned by hard working Koreans and Vietminese but the residents are mostly from central america

  83. raine says:

    Huh. I’d probably be like, “they might want to get that checked out.” I don’t even know what one looks like…yeah, nope. As much as I read up on luxury stuff (which I hope to at least gawk at in person in the coming months), the ‘lambo’ doesn’t turn up.

  84. lisa says:

    Many of them fought in the civil war in El savador back in the 1980’s

    And they can go anywhere since they have cars. A few years ago a police office was stabbed badly but survived due to his vest, by a group of them that were walking behind some of the stores on the good side of the freeway. This is an area that has no murders, it’s own police force (houston has many little cities within it) and is so strict they will get onto you if you throw a ciggerate butt on the ground (I once heard a police call on his horn (lady pick up the ciggerate butt) but it’s only down the street and these guys can get anywhere.

  85. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    no! i did not… where could i find it?

  86. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    VC did you see the documentary about MS-13? it’s is scary, they even have their own sign language

  87. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    MS13 is bad news ,They aren’t just in South america they are all over the world. Scary bunch
    Had some of them live where i use to when i lived in California
    trust me bad news

  88. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    OMG. speaking of machetes…

    Their penchant for violence is renowned. Members often arrive in the United States with fighting skills gained in military training and are particularly adept with machetes. In March 2004, the Maldon Institute, a Washington DC based think tank, released a report detailing the violent methods MS-13 used, including their increasingly typical (and disturbing) calling card. MS-13 often leaves behind dismembered corpses, complete with the decapitated head, at the scene of their murders. Often a grim note is attached to the body.

  89. lisa says:

    The car really didn’t catch my attention, lol

  90. lisa says:

    yes and some of them live in my apartment complex. The new owner evicted some of them a few months ago so they threw gasoline in the office windows and burned down the office.

  91. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    raine – you’d know it alright… the sound of the engine would give it away….

  92. raine says:

    Hi, folks. Blog thinned out earlier, so I surfed the net for a bit.

    I know next to nothing about cars; blanked out on the Lamborghini[sp]* segment…

    *wouldn’t know one if it was parked in front of my house, really.

  93. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    i’ve heard of them….

    The MS-13 gang, aka Mara Salvatrucha 13, is one of the most violently dangerous gangs in the United States – and one of the most organized. The MS-13 gang has cliques, or factions, located throughout the United States and is unique in that it retains is ties to its El Salvador counterparts. With cliques in Washington DC, Oregon, Alaska, Arkansas, Texas, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, Florida, Canada, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, and several other South American countries, the MS-13 gang is truly “international” and on the verge of becoming the first gang to be categorized as an “organized crime” entity.


  94. lisa says:

    we have that ms-13 salvadorean gang stuff here. Nothing sophisticated like the mafia, just a bunch of thugs who dress like crap and go around shooting people for no reason. They come from central america and are Americas most violent gang and they have a presense in almost every state , especially Texas and California. They kill people with machetes too. A few years ago, just down the street from me they shot a rival and threw his body in the middle of the road where all the nice houses are.

  95. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    although…. last week i saw a movie called GOMORRA… about the camorra (mafia) in naples, italy…. i thought of you!!! the area is called SCAMPIA and the apartment buildings are SO SHITTY you would not imagine… i thought, wow, these are so much worse than where lisa lives. google it… pele di scampia… or the movie itself… it was brilliant, and gritty. the camorra is even more shadowy and dangerous than the sicilian mafia… i love all that stuff… organised crime, etc

  96. lisa says:

    if you search under yahoo “westview forest apartments crime” you will see more about the crimes, the shooting and the dead man in the swimming pool. I think he got drunk and fell in but it’s scary to think of it as the laundry room is right next to the pool and I used to wash over there when the washers were still hooked up.

  97. lisa says:

    I know because I worked almost 3 years at night. I can’t imagine coming home after 9 pm and having to drive all the way around the block (the apartments cover almost and entire block) and park in the back where there have been 2 drive by shootings and then have to walk a distance to my apartment. You can’t park in front of your apartment even though there are spaces in front of mine because between the two apartments downstairs, there are 6 cars so those two families take up all the parking. They have cars that they don’t even drive.

  98. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    the one review i found specifically addressed the parking situation, which you’ve mentioned before… hmmmm…. scary!!!!!!! good thing you do NOT have a car…

  99. lisa says:

    everytime I google it I find out something bad. lol

  100. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    yep it is!

  101. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    karma is a bitch, eh?

  102. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    wow. so you don’t have a driver’s license? good thing you are not employed by the houston board of tourism… 😉

    i did look up your apartment complex, after you told us what it’s called… you’re not kidding about how unsafe it is!!!!!!

  103. lisa says:

    my boyfriend was going over a hundred miles an hour and hit a fence outside of a dogfood factory and died alone in a ditch. He was so selfish and died alone. I used to take him flowers every week when I lived down there and it was like no one ever brought him flowers except me. He would be 52 now

  104. lisa says:

    I would love to have a mint green jaguar but I’d settle for anything as I have never had a car. My ex could have bought me one. He wanted me to take driving lessons and get a license but he wasn’t going to buy me a car because he wanted me to buy a bicycle. Last week a bicylist was hit by two firetrucks and is in critical condition in the hospital. Not a bicycle friendly city at all

  105. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    i like those euro plates

  106. VillaCypris *276489* says:


    that’s funny… yea, my boyfriend in monaco had a red F430 … he let me drive it once… had the paddle shifters, was like playing a video game! we went to the cannes film festival in it, on the A8 motorway, and my ears were popping, he was going 200+ miles per hour… ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

  107. lisa says:

    It was really cool that he had European license plates on all his cars (the long ones rather than the american rectangle ones we have. Actually I met him when I was walking home from the school bus stop at 15. I noticed this car going by with really weird license plates, lol He asked me out and I finally got the nerve 3 years later when I just turned 19. He could have been a great sd but he was the opposite, take take take.

  108. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    they are a lot of nice cars out there

  109. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol wow i go get coffee and darn i have tones of reading lol

  110. lisa says:

    It was red of course. But he was such a selfish person that I never even go to ride in it. It was parked my driveway one time though. I lived in a rural area called a “colonia” which is a term for an undeveloped high proverty subdivision in the rio grande valley. Imagine having a car like that parked in the driveway next to the shack I lived in. lol
    Anyway he was a very cheap rich person. The son of a wealthy Mexican movie producer. He also had a lotus(black) and various other cars. We usually went out in the Lincoln Continental which was a nice car at the time.

  111. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    i’m partial to mercedes, too… but for exotics, like ferrari and lamborghini. no, i thought you were on the phone…

  112. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    ooo… 1985 was the year of the 308 QV – quattro valvole ferrari… NICE! what color?

    too bad that he died… !!!

  113. lisa says:

    you probably thought I was out at mcds having coffee with that janitor that comes around here. I’d rather be home on a friday night on the blog, thank you. lol

  114. lisa says:

    Gee I must be dumb as I didn’t even notice that the car was anything special. I’m more of the mercedes/ jaguar/ bentley type. I don’t go in for sports cars, my first boyfriend died on the side of the road after being ejected from his new ferrari.. back in 1985

  115. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Nitemare will follow…

  116. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    A HA!!!!!!!! SEE! I knew you’d come back Lisa :)

  117. lisa says:

    Calling NitemareSD, Joules, OC, CSB, Jasmine, etc, etc I think raine went to bed already, are you there raine??

  118. lisa says:

    DId you call me? lol Just got back online, watched wifeswap and most of the nanny.
    How’s everyone tonight?

  119. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    and his wife kicked him out because he bought that???

    merde, i would renew my marriage vows… but then again, i am an exotic car fiend…

  120. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    yea but we’re never really “alone”… think of all the persons out there reading our conversation…. muahahahhhaa

    maybe lisa will come back and channel some additional bloggers

  121. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    we missed the party lol
    TO does have a nice car though lol,

  122. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    suck though lol

  123. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    ehhhhh… c’est la vie eh?

  124. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    TO – damn nice car! Someone I knew in Monte carlo had an ORANGE murcielago… i must say the one you have is more pleasing to the eye…

  125. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol yeah i think so

  126. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    hey beach! i think we missed all the fun!!

  127. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    hi sugars!

  128. raine says:

    Nite Nico, lisa, NC. Good nite Gracie; good nite john boy…[my bad.]

  129. TOExec says:

    Good night everyone!

  130. lisa says:

    Good night Nico and everyone. I’m on the phone with my daughter so I think i’ll be going to.

    Have a good night everyone.

  131. TOExec says:

    A Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster

  132. Nico says:

    G’nite NC….I am headed out too.

    Night Lisa, Raine, TO and all the lurkers :)

  133. raine says:

    There it is in b&w, NC: the malarkey we SBs, regardless of tenure, are up against…I’m so looking forward to getting in the trenches, as it were.

  134. NC Gent says:

    OK — I am moderated — night all!

  135. Nico says:

    Careful NC…..SE may be lurking……. 😉

    Yes TO, very nice car.

  136. NC Gent says:

    you go to profile on your page, and then browse similar profiles….

    Oh you were serious when she left you over the car, TO. What kind of car is it? And I am thinking that was just the final straw – hang in there dude — maybe we need to go get drunk!

  137. TOExec says:

    Where do you plug the profile number?

  138. TOExec says:

    Don’t worry NC my ex think of me the same way

  139. TOExec says:

    How do you do that?

  140. TOExec says:

    Can you believe over a damn car! Oh yes I forgot, I work too much too and I was never home… Ladies, never go out with a guy like me…

  141. NC Gent says:

    OK this is hilarious reading these profiles (your profile excluded TO). The word douchebag comes to mind. What are these guys thinking???

  142. raine says:

    Hi again. Please excuse the absence: the usual get-off-work-pick-child-up-from-babysitter-get-home routine…

    Good to hear some of us have begun or resumed the sugar race on a good note…TOExec, great work, man; I wish you continued success from here.[insert applause and whistling here]

  143. TOExec says:

    That’s why my wife kicked me out last year!!!

  144. TOExec says:

    Trust me, I am the total opposite, you’d be the judge

  145. NC Gent says:

    OK nice car TO — I just browsed some of the competition’s profiles for the first time ever and all I have to say is OMFG!

  146. Nico says:

    Haha….yes, TO…..NC and SE are dear friends…lol.

    NC…I remember 70 work weeks. Ahh prepping for TRIAL….my world may just come back to that though. At least the ‘legal world’ anyway.

  147. NC Gent says:

    No TO — I was answering Nico — sorry I should have noted that.

    p.s. I am sure you are hot and all, TO, but I was joking about the bromance — don’t want southernexec to get jealous!

  148. TOExec says:

    NC-was that for me?

  149. NC Gent says:

    Doing well — quick perusal and I am going to bed early — I had a 70 hour work week — that brings back very bad memories of when I used to do that all the time…

  150. TOExec says:

    sorry 312741

  151. lisa says:

    Nico he didn’t mention dinner , just coffee at mcdonalds which is across the street. He came into the store I worked at one day and asked me and then I had to lose him a couple weeks ago as he followed me into my apartment. He is harmless but being alone with a man than is interested in you when you aren’t into him is very uncomfortable. Maybe a ride in his beat up old camry to the apartment where he stays and hang out with all the people he lives with. Sorry I can watch a movie by myself, go to mcd by myself, and gee is he a snappy dresser, dirty workclothes, ooooh irresisitable. He’s a nice guy to chat with but that’s it. Just because i’m single doesn’t mean I want to go out with anyone who asks me. lol

  152. TOExec says:


  153. Nico says:

    View your profile….at the top it will show the #

  154. Nico says:

    LOL @ To….sorry.

    NC ~ how you doing tonight?

    Lisa ~ sounds like a winner to me….dinner, perhaps catch a movie on the laptop and a little romance 😉 *ick* sorry…was trying to be funny but just got the visual…..moving on now.

  155. TOExec says:

    How do I check that?

  156. TOExec says:

    Let me check…

  157. NC Gent says:

    Yeah TO — what is your profile # — I need to start a new bromance!

  158. TOExec says:

    NC – I do not have a choice on that one, she got a more expensive lawyer… you see, you get what you pay for…

  159. Nico says:

    TO….what is your profile #?

  160. NC Gent says:

    Too damn funny TOExec — at least you have a sense of humor about it!

  161. lisa says:

    edit “he” used to live and work at my apartments

  162. TOExec says:

    NC – Thanks, you are right about the it is easier to go up than down… I just saw my alimony payments….

  163. lisa says:

    TOExec sounds like a great sd!
    Just a fe minutes ago I had that dreadful janitor guy knocking at my door. I guess he is off work tonight. I used to live and work at my apartments. Sweet guy and friendly to everyone but he took too much of an interest in me in the last few months. He doesn’t even have his own place anymore. When he worked here, he had an empty apartment with a matress on the floor and no tv. I seen his apartment because he let me send some emails from his laptop during hurricane Ike when my internet service was out. I guess he misstook my friendlyness for something else. He is always trying to ask me to go for coffee at mcds with him. He is the complete opposite of a sd. I think he is looking for a greencard too. Why do I attract the ones I don’t want and the ones I want ignore me.

  164. TOExec says:

    Nico you are too kind!!! I am just making sure that I do not hurt anyone, after all they are here for a reason… We shouldn’t be taking advantage right? Especially on emotions…

  165. NC Gent says:

    Hey all – read your “perky” posts OC — you soooo crack me up!

    TO — we need to send you to negotiating school…. it is easier to go up than down when you are on the buying side! as Nico somewhat suggested…. but hey, whatever feels right. I had an SB for a lil over 2 years – I considered that long-term and it was the best relationship of my life… just see how it plays out is the best I think.

  166. Nico says:

    *Hugs* TO….you’re not an idiot. I may be too cautious and not trusting enough…perhaps you know something that we don’t know 😉

    As Lisa said, you’re on a great path and you’re coming here for advice. You’ll have to do what feels right for you. We’re all blessed to know you 😀

  167. TOExec says:

    Nico – I did tell her that on the emails, that’s why I was caught off guard when she brought it up. I know I should’ve tackled it at that time but I like her, I’m an idiot! I go against my rules!!! Hence partnership not relationship!!!

  168. lisa says:

    I think TOExec is on the track to being a great sd. The fact that he is on here asking for advice proves that.

  169. Nico says:

    *ahem* TO…..you should have said that from the get go……. 😉

  170. TOExec says:

    Well noted Lisa! Maybe I’m over analyzing the situation… I’ll let it play out. Thank you ladies your wisdom is much appreciated!!!

  171. TOExec says:

    Thank you Nico!!! I guess i will sit her down the next meeting and tell her what i expect from this, Like what you said before, say it straight and see how she reacts.

  172. lisa says:

    TOExec, she proabably just wants a regular ongoing sd/sb relationship with you rather than something short term or temporary. Temporary could be a month or two whereas longterm could go on as long as it works for you both.

  173. TOExec says:

    Thank you Lisa, well I guess I will have to wait till our next meeting and see if she is still in that long-term relationship mode…

  174. Nico says:

    TO ~ you are very generous and you shouldn’t think it sux…unless you’re referring to the ‘not knowing’ part. Most women do not know how to negotiate….I was in the business of negotiating settlements for years so I have a little bit of an edge *wink*

    I would’ve stuck with the low(er) end of her range (hope I am not upsetting any SB’s by saying this) at least until you get to know her and know she is the woman you thought/hoped she would be. You could then choose to make up the difference through niceties such as things done together or spontaneous shopping / spa / hair etc and or upping her allowance and ‘making her day.’

    Bottom line, you must do what works for you and what feels right 😉

  175. lisa says:

    It sounds like you are coming along very well TOExec as you understand the allowance thing. And you chose the higher range. That seems to be the biggest issue with sbs is not getting the allowance they want. You have that down so you’re doing very well and are being a true sd.

  176. TOExec says:

    Thank you Nico! I did gave her the allowance that she is expecting in cash though, I prefer it that way for now. She gave me a range for her allowance and I chose the top end of it. Is that good judgement, I do not want her to think that I’m buying her. You could tell I am new to this…. This sucks…..

  177. Nico says:

    Congrats on the good news TO ~ that’s awesome! Well, I would imagine it would depend on what the arrangements were but, if you’re both on the same page I would suggest upholding your end of the agreement would be a good start. I would assume she is in the same place….and btw, a long-term relationship can apply to a SD/SB situation too as long as it you both understood what the level of commitment would be.

    My previous SD just paid me cash each time he met me (not a preferred method for me but it worked for him).

    I would also expand that question to incorporate the SD’s on the site that are experienced in such subject.

  178. lisa says:

    I don’t know how they could be hot because I live upstairs and my apartment is very comfortable today without the ac, but I guess when you got 8 people in 650 sq feet or such, it gets hot and sticky. lol

  179. OnTheWater says:

    TOExec – I would take it at face value. See how things go. I personally ignore age gaps, what really matters is the people and how they fit.

    Lisa- I think I spoke too soon, I just got a msg! And I hear you about the people downstairs. I joke that the lady below me kills people and puts them in her bathroom bc the fan is on CONSTANTLY!!

  180. TOExec says:

    Nico – I did take care of the arrangement right away so she wouldn’t feel that she has to ask but the long-term relationship does scare me. I needed a business partnership and nothing else and sex is really not a priority, its more if it happens so be it. So how do I deal with this?

  181. TOExec says:

    14 year gap; however, me being a guy, we probably have the same maturity level… She did say that she wants a long-term relationship… Don’t know how to read that…

  182. lisa says:

    ok I hate this, my downstairs neighbors have their airconditoner on and my entire kitchen in vibrating, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  183. lisa says:

    I dont’ get home till around 5 and by the time I change my dirty clothes and we go out , it would be time to send her on the bus home before dark. When I get off the bus at my place, the next bus doesn’t come for another hour.

  184. TOExec says:

    I really do not know where to go from here though, maybe the experience ones can help with some guidance

  185. TOExec says:

    Hi Nico, yes went well, she is BRILLIANT!!!

  186. OnTheWater says:

    Spa Days are so fun :) Anyone have any potential meetings this weekend?

  187. lisa says:

    Nico the Galleria is about 8 miles from me in the better part of town but it’s easy to get to by bus. It takes about and an hour and a half to get there. And since it’s a nice area, the bus stop on the way back is better maintained and safer. I live 4 blocks from the second best mall in town too

  188. Nico says:

    how about meeting her the evening of some weekend….

  189. Nico says:

    Hello TO….didn’t you recently have a date with a potential? Sorry ~ getting nosy 😉

    It is a tough time in this economy ….while my job isn’t what it used to be, I am fortunate to even have a job at the moment.

  190. lisa says:

    no because they are leaving when she gets off work at 5 pm on that friday. I have to be at work at 8 am saturdays and they are coming back sunday evening. It’s too far for them to drive the rental car back from galveston only to turn around and bring me back so I can get up and go to work in the morning. I was just so looking forward to getting out of Houston for a couple days but timing is always bad. I put in for the days off a month in advance but my coworker already has her plane ticket. My daughter is only off on weekends and i’m only off on weekdays.

  191. NitemareSD says:

    Those are actual clips from real active SBs right here on SA. Copy and Paste.

    In fact the profiles came up using Most Recent Login search.

  192. Nico says:

    Yes OC ~ the closer we get I am actually getting a little nervous. We spoke already today too and I feel good. He has the long drive and mine will only be about 20-30 minutes. Must wash the car though 😉 He’s driving across the state but I am driving here in town. Might actually go to the outlet mall and pick up a little something new to freshen my step some.

    Lisa ~ is Galleria the mall near you?

  193. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa: You do work very hard! I love that you put your heart into it. They are lucky to have such a wonderful employee. Working weekends are tough.
    I have worked almost every weekend since January. Suthrn has had to come here bacause of my work load.
    We are lucky to be employed. I know I am so very thankful for that very fact! :)

  194. TOExec says:

    Lisa-you shouldn’t have a problem with that desired scorecard…

  195. TOExec says:

    Hello everyone, been really busy lately, amusing posts lately

  196. lisa says:

    Lisa’s desired scorecard:

    1 handsome generous sd in a jaguar and the direction set to the Galleria and the Versace store to buy poor Lisa a new handbag

  197. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: I am so excited for you! I was both nervous and excited when I first met Suthrn. I had a 45 minute drive in a ton of traffic, so I had time to get more nervous. But as soon as I saw him, and he was exactly as the picture showed. His smile made all my nervousness go away.
    I am glad you have had great conversations prior to meeting. It will be like meeting an old friend for the afternoon. :)

  198. Nico says:

    Sorry about the time off Lisa :( Would you be able to do something for your daughter before they left or after they came back as a back up?

  199. lisa says:

    Good luck on your date tomorrow Nico
    Wow Nico on a date, OC at the spa
    Lisa unloading a truck and stocking, I think I pulled the short straw. lol

    I’m still trying to get a sat and sun off in mid april to go to Galveston with my family for my daughter’s b-day. Hotel is all reserved and everything. It’s not looking good though as my coworker might be taking her vacation at that time.

  200. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa’s Score Card (Updated April 3rd at 6:57pm
    2 Playah’s
    1 Pimp daddy wanna be
    1 True Sugar without a limo

  201. Nico says:

    Yeah OC ~ ya know, when you say you worked 60 hours I don’t think it is considered slacking if you’re not working AS HARD this afternoon 😉

    Yeah on the spa day!! I was just talking with my pot about that today. Started out talking about massages etc and he moved to the SPA concept.

    I got the day off tomorrow and now we’re going to be able to meet earlier in the day rather later soooooooo, perhaps I’ll have a spa day someday soon too 😉

  202. lisa says:

    The first two where the players

  203. lisa says:

    the two players were :
    1 drunk driver who cancelled on me last August
    1 picture collector who contacted me the fourthtime wants kinky sex
    1 nice guy wanted me drive 150 miles (I have no car) to meet him
    1 offered naughty pics, I ignored the comment and sent him a nice message, waiting to hear back now.

  204. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa: I would take you with me if you lived closer! :)

  205. lisa says:

    I envy you OC!

  206. Cat says:

    I’ve been lurking and reading NC gent’s posts…and lmao! Poor guy…

  207. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa’s Score Card:
    3 fizzled
    1 drizzled
    and two of the 4 were playah’s

    Still cant turnt he brain off with the numbers! :)

  208. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: I put in over 60 hours in this week. I am totally screwing off this afternoon! I am brain dead. However, thanks to Suthrn I will be spending Saturday morning at the Spa gettinga facial and massage! WhooHoo! :)

  209. lisa says:

    OnTheWater I have received 4 responses in less than a week but 3 have fizzled, 2 were players, on sounded nice but lived in an unassessible place, and I just emailed the last one back but no message yet. He’s married so I probably won’t hear from him till the weekend’s past.

    Good evening Nico

  210. OnTheWater says:

    Oooo! I hope it works out! I’ve been having a bit of a dry patch lately. When I first joined I could barely keep up with the e-mails and now I haven’t had any mail in weeks. I just posted two new pics that aren’t blurred….hopefully that helps. Any other suggestions from everyone?

  211. Nico says:

    HA HA Nitemare….saw that one today too (was bored earlier).

    Sorry I couldn’t get back to you earlier OC. I was on overload too. Now just relaxing watching the History channe.

    Good evening everybody.

  212. OnTheWater says:

    haha Lisa, more power to them if they can find an SD to agree to that! Glad to see you back :)

  213. lisa says:

    Good evening OnTheWater just hanging around and hoping to hear from my latest potential sd. 3 down 1 left

  214. lisa says:

    how bout this one
    Here I am in my profile, all pics are bikini shots and half nude shots. I am looking for a guy to be “friends only” with. Nothing pysical, no touching, just friends. I have posted these revealing pics of my self because I women with huge breast make great friends. You must be able to afford my allowance and take me shopping too. I want 10k a month for one or two meetings, just talking and hanging out like buddies.

    lol there are actually profiles like this

  215. OnTheWater says:

    How is everyone this evening?

  216. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa: He was stating a fictious SB “profile” and his reply…
    I was just kidding that the last one sounded like a Brothel! :)

  217. lisa says:

    I’m a little confused too

  218. OCSugarBaby says:

    NiteMareSD: Wouldnt that be called a Brothel?

  219. NitemareSD says:

    “Seeking Sugar…there is no sap in my tree” – that could involve frequent trips to the pharmacy.

    “Myself and a group of like minded friends are looking for daddys to pamper us. We would be more than happy if you met with more than one of us, not at the same time of course.” – get back to you after I have my cholesterol checked.

  220. lisa says:

    Good evening NitemareSD and no I actually bring home almost twice as much as that. lol

  221. NitemareSD says:

    lisa Says:

    rebuttal sds profile (fictionary) would like to meet 3 times a week for 400 dollars a month


    That’s pretty much a lateral move with your current job.

    Thankful for the PenisSDs without whom I’d get less interest from the ladies.

    If I update my profile I’m going to make the first part read: I have no pictures of my penis to send you. Outside of that I am willing to cooperate fully with your investigation.

  222. lisa says:

    Ok I will just have a cup myself. Need an afternoon pickme up as all that food I had for lunch is making me sleepy.

  223. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa: I will have to email Gail about Gordon. Did not hear that. I live in LA baby, everything costs twice as much. Actually hair and nail maintance is fairly priced out here. No more coffee for me, but thanks! :)

  224. lisa says:

    mine budget is zero I haven’t had a haircut in 3 years! I always went to the 4 dollar haircut place but since I’m alone now (I always had my dad come with me) I don’t go to that salon anymore as it’s next to a spot where the day labors hang out and harrass women, especially blond women

  225. lisa says:

    I think I will make some coffee now, would you like another cup OC?
    I thought Gordon had been banned from the blog, someone told me that as I once asked what had happend to him since he used to post so faithfully. Maybe he met a fake sb and she has him tied to a matress somewhere lol

  226. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa: Shoot my hair and nails alone are $375 per month!

  227. lisa says:

    and I will give you 400 a month allowance, you must be available 24/7 so you will need to quit your job. You can live quite nicely on the 400 month lol Be sure to use most of it for manicures and to keep your hair looking nice for our meetings. lol

  228. OCSugarBaby says:

    OK, seriously… I have had far too much coffee!
    Lisa, I saw that Gordon deleted his profile. I hope that means that things worked out well with his new SB.

  229. OCSugarBaby says:

    Oh and have nice Boobies (real perky please)! LMAO :)

  230. OCSugarBaby says:

    I should quit my job and be a negotiator for SB’s. I will take a very small cut. I would be RICH beyond my wildest dreams with a few SB’s like that one!

  231. raine says:

    Yeah, lisa, not bad assuming it’s even gonna happen, which I kinda suspect it WON’T…

  232. lisa says:

    rebuttal sds profile (fictionary)

    would like to meet 3 times a week for 400 dollars a month
    Also every other weekend
    occasionally dinner or lunch off the value meal ad mcd.
    Please be model quality and drive to meet me


  233. raine says:

    [To which I reply: keep imagining, honey…]

    OC: I presume this is in the profile itself?

  234. lisa says:

    Good afternoon raine

  235. lisa says:

    wow 60K a year for only working 52 days. I’m gonna quit my job now lol

  236. raine says:

    Hi again, folks.

  237. OCSugarBaby says:

    NiteMareSD: This one reads:
    I can imagine meeting one night per week for $5000/month, or twice weekly for double that.
    Or traveling on weekends for approximately $7,000 per weekend.

    This person (SB) is 38 years old….

  238. lisa says:

    Percy is very mad that i’m out of birdseed and he has to wait till next week when my mom can come over and bring him a giant bag.

  239. lisa says:

    OC I sent him a nice email thanking him for the pics he sent (they were the decent ones) and told him i’d be interested in hearing what he expects in an arrangment. I completely ignored the part about the naughty pics.

    We will see where this goes now. It’s almost the weekend and back to hard work for me. I’ve enjoyed my 4 days off this past week.

  240. OCSugarBaby says:

    Hello Lisa Penelope (and Percy)! I think you should have that latest pot send the naughty pic. His true colors will come out sooner or later! No, really I hope he was kidding. :)

  241. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: I am having spreadsheet overload! I need a distraction. :) Are we still talking about Boobies? Lol

  242. lisa says:

    Good afternoon OC

  243. OCSugarBaby says:

    Welcome Italian P! What state do you live in? Im in CA.

  244. Italian Princess says:

    Thank you for sharing your story! I would have loved to see the look on your face when she said that. HYSTERICAL and very Jessica Simpson like.

    Hi everyone! I am new to the sight, two days to be exact. I just wanted to introduce myself. Good Luck!

  245. OCSugarBaby says:

    NCGent- Getting a lift without implants is pointless. I have researched this one in detail. LOL
    So find them perky ones while you can! :)

  246. lisa says:

    I am hoping she gets grants as she doesn’t need a bunch of loans to pay off. She doesn’t have an plans on what she wants to study, and it’s a community college, 2 years only. We have just managed to talk her into going. If she ends having to get a loan, I know she will decide not to go.

  247. NC Gent says:

    I think size matters to most guys, Nico. But I think perkiness is more important than size. I am wierd I guess, as you may already know! Also, I saw a recent poll were 80% of guys preferred natural to implants, yet so many women get implants… go figure…

  248. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    so, with boobies….does size matter? *winks*

    Sorry ~ feeling playful today.

  249. Atalanta says:

    Hey, Lisa! Not sure if anyone has said anything else about the gov’t loans, but the good thing about them is that you don’t have to pay them until after you graduate. Your daughter may be able to get all the funding she needs from school grants, scholarships, and government grants, though. She should just apply, and see what comes.

    I think the FAFSA website has more information on student loans and such if you want to check it out :-)

  250. NC Gent says:

    breasts are so much prettier…. but that is a gift best unwrapped in person!

  251. lisa says:

    size can be overrated. There is such thing as too big.

  252. lisa says:

    I think they see it as the equivalent of a woman showing her breasts. lol

  253. NC Gent says:

    ooops thanks Nico — thought for a second that size didn’t matter lol

  254. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    NC ~ I would caution anybody about referring to their Mr. Happy as ‘cute’, it eludes to its ‘size’. 😉

  255. NC Gent says:

    Ok I don’t know how other guys feel about their “Mr Happy” but it isn’t my cutest feature lol

  256. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Funny Lisa….had a guy in Tampa (a doctor too) who wrote me back. Didn’t have pics but I initiated contact. He wrote back and we exchanged e-mails so he could share pics. He was very attractive and he shared many of himself in casual environments. Just then I lost internet at my home (moved) and could only read e-mails on my phone (not able to open pics). He sent me another e-mail with additional attachments so I had to wait till I got to work to open it. Please keep in mind I did not ask for more…..opened it up at my desk only to discover it was a CLOSE UP of his right hand’s best friend!! *sigh* (fortunately nobody was near my desk at the time.)

    I wrote some kind of smart ass comment in response and he dropped off my radar. He’s still online though.

    Never got the motivation behind his actions….I guess I was supposed to come beating down his door?

  257. lisa says:

    I have always heard that a particially clothed woman is more sexy than a completely naked one. I think most guys look better with at least one article of clothing on as long as they aren’t naked in their socks.

    I will just send him a nice message saying I would be interested in getting to know him more but no naughty pics please, i’m a lady and don’t except inappropriate pics from strangers, lol

  258. NC Gent says:

    hmmm what is it with these guys and naughty pics…. I think it is soooo much better to leave something to the imagination :)

  259. lisa says:

    I’m going to write him later today. He is in his 60’s so maybe he’s just kidding. I would think that the older a man is , the less crude and more respectful he would be. It’s something I would expect of a 20 something guy.

  260. SouthernGirl*302249* says:

    Nevermind. A thoroughly silly suggestion from me.

    As for the naughty pictures, just politely say that you are not interested in any naughty pictures at this time. If he’s smart, he’ll take the hint. If not…well, you can always come back and tell us all about it :-)

  261. lisa says:

    Well I have had 4 contacts this past week, and none are progressing. One game player from last year, a guy wanting kinky hot sex , thats all he says in his emails, a guy that sounded great but ditched me when he found out I couldn’t drive 150 miles to meet him, and the one I am talking to now which I asked a question of how to respond back. He lives a couple hundred miles from me but does come to this city 2 or 3 times a month. He sent me some pics and then added “I have a couple more but they are naughty, let me know if you are interested.” Not sure if he is wanting to know if I am interested in proceeding or if i’m interested in the naughty pics which I am not. I dont’ want to say the wrong thing or come across as a goody two shoes, but then again I am a lady and I think crude or sexual humor is fine amoung friends or even guys that are friends , but when a man whom i’ve yet to meet, makes slightly crude comments, well I feel he’s a little too forward.
    I wore my new plaid miniskirt and funny I got alot of whistles and attention from younger guys when I was out but I can’t even land a 60 year old on this site. lol

  262. SouthernGirl*302249* says:

    Lisa: “If I ever meet anyone again”? Whatever happened to thinking positively?

  263. lisa says:

    HI everyone
    Back from the mall. Brought home some yummy quesadillas and fried pickles. There is a new restraraunt/sports bar kinda place at the mall that would be a good safe place to have lunch or dinner with any potential sds I meet, if I ever meet anyone again. The prices are reasonable and I don’t have to leave the safety of the mall if I feel uneasy

  264. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    SE for a little OC therapy 😉

  265. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SE~ ahh lucky you , i should be going out to LA soon, i hate this cold weather!

  266. SuthrnExec says:

    SE is doing better today – got a good night’s sleep – first in a few days. Need to make a trip out west – can’t come soon enough!

  267. NC Gent says:

    lol Raine — let me know when you do your casting call :) I wouldn’t say we lacked chemistry — we had conversation but it was pretty mindless stuff — but after a while, that will run out…. ok this has been very therapeutic! Thanks to everyone and nice to meet you, Be Mine!

  268. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Raine~ i’m not gonna snap, i’m typing so i’m the only one confused! lol
    but yeah if i feel a little down i’ll re-read the blog lol your time is coming you’ll see soon
    SE~hi , how are you this late morning

  269. raine says:

    Later, BG; if you ever feel tempted to snap, just think green. 😀

    Even simple lack of chemistry is asking too much, huh, NC? Yes, I’m looking forward to my casting call…xD

  270. SuthrnExec says:

    Good morning Nico, B-Mine and BG!

  271. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ you have to go slow with this stuff i think, some are real some not! i got all the nots but that’s ok, i’ll see what happens in the future
    well i have to finish these darn documents
    talk to you all later

  272. NitemareSD says:

    I am very happy to hear Lisa is going to the mall.

  273. raine says:

    Not bad, BG: my irrational fear has mostly subsided. A halfway decent night’s rest usually helps.

    You do the same, lisa; we’ll have thought up something by then. Whatever you decide, treat yourself; you earned it.

  274. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NC~ i think so , it can be frustrating when the person you are talking to does not understand! I did some arbitration work for a union and wow! when you have to explain what everything means, well i couldn’t do it! i got upset, and angry and i usually very patient lol

  275. NC Gent says:

    Yeah — that pretty much floored me when she said that about green electricity. She is super sweet and very pretty so I am thinking with the wrong head. Probably best to move on, and prevent any future hard feelings.

  276. lisa says:

    I’m going to head to catch the bus now. Be back later this afternoon. Have a good day everyone and please please someone give me some advice on what to do with this last email.

  277. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ lmao i’ve been doing some legal stuff and then i read the blog!!! yes we have to behave lol how are ya?
    sorry NC it was very funny!

  278. lisa says:

    I got one of those cfl bulbs in the mail one day, odd looking thing

  279. lisa says:

    so what should do about the sd that made a comment the he had some naught pics, was I interested. I can’t figure out if he was joking about the pics and just wanted to know if I was interested in communicating with him or is he is another pervert? I need to send him a response when I get home this afternoon.

  280. raine says:

    Hi, BG; yah, I don’t believe the cfl bulbs have been delivered yet. Oh, let me stop…*snicker* ok, now I’ll try to behave.

  281. lisa says:

    I’m going to go down to the mall soon and eat at that new restaraunt. Can’t really afford it but the food looks so good. It’s going to cost me 14 dollars without a drink which is cheap to most people but way out of my budget. I will just skip the groceries next week. lol I’m cravin quesadillas and fried pickles

  282. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    hi everyone !!

  283. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Good morning Lisa….what did you decide to do with your day off?

  284. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NC ~ green electricity lol, i’m killing myself laughing this morning
    wow …. talk about “being green” lol
    ok i think you should maybe move on… just saying if there no lights upstairs you know…

  285. raine says:

    *woohoo! Good luck and be safe, CSB! 😀

    Gee, NC; I’m thinking, ‘oooh, green electricity — wind turbines, solar panels, hydrogen cells and whatnot.’ Then I read the part about her questioning the need for same, citing the lack of color and all. I’m still floored. [Ok, my brain cells have regained consciousness; they’d passed out from the above.]

  286. Be mine says:

    Hi everyone… It has been ages since I have been around!! I took a bit of a break after my last potential SD ended up being a fraud.. But I’m back now with a new outlook on me!!

    NC Gent ~ Basically I think if there is no real conversation things will get tiresome… You can only have so much good sex… Why settle for less then the best when there are so many of us to choose from? ; )

    As far as how to tell her I think you need to step lightly… You don’t want to hurt her feelings…

    Good Luck!

  287. lisa says:

    Good morning Nico

  288. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    YEAH CSB!!! Hugs to you and above all, have fun and be safe :)

  289. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    LOL NC ~ okay, in that case I would probably shake my head and walk away. Up to that point though I was thinking, perhaps she just does need a bit of enlightenment. I have learned much by just listening to others and watching their actions and later adopting them and have done very well for myself but, there are some out there that don’t think before they talk and question why there is such a thing as green electricity.

    If you posses the patience and the desire to ‘teach’ not just mentor, then I say go for it. Give it a couple of dates to see the potential….otherwise, perhaps moving on to a woman who can provide more of a mental challenge would be better suited for you.

    As a quick ~aside~ my brother married a woman that he cannot engage in a friendly debate. She takes everything too personal and, as a result, he has lost his edge…….just a thought.


  290. lisa says:

    Morning raine, morning SuthrnExex

  291. SuthrnExec says:

    Hey raine! Morning Lisa!

  292. raine says:

    Mornin’, sugar fans.

  293. SuthrnExec says:

    Yes – good luck CSB and safe travels! My there be a nice, sugary trail for you that leads you to that special SD!

  294. lisa says:

    Good luck on your meeting ChocolateSnowBunny! :)

  295. lisa says:

    Good mornining everyone
    Beautiful day but still a little windy here.
    No word from sd potential 1 or 2, I guess they’re history
    The one that contacted me yesterday sent me an email and a couple pics this morning. He looks ok, not bad for a man in his 60’s but he made one remark in which I don’t know how to respond back. He said here are some pics. I have a couple more but they are naughty, if you are interested. Is this guy just trying to be funny or is he trying to be crude? I don’t want to jump to conclusions but it seems they is alot of this going on lately.
    Going to jump in the shower now, be back in a bit

  296. NC Gent says:

    Best wishes on your date CSB!

  297. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Good morning sugars. Kitty: Will you be sending sunshine my way again today :)?
    No need anyway. I’m in the airport lounge about to depart to meet my pot SD. There’s a hunk of an older gentleman with salt and pepper hair. Wish he could be my SD lol. I will update you guys next week.

  298. NC Gent says:

    No SE — dead serious!

  299. SuthrnExec says:

    Maybe she was trying to be funny??

  300. NC Gent says:

    OK — here it goes — but here is an example…. I was talking to her about a business venture I have going with “green energy” and renewable sources for electricity generation — and she says — why would anyone want green electricity — electricity doesn’t have color :)

  301. NC Gent says:

    Thanks for the advice everyone! I am probably over-analyzing as usual!

  302. SuthrnExec says:

    Kitty, your way works fine (reading up on SD’s interest areas) – I think it’s an individual preference thing – and probably a deficiency on my part that I find it difficult to give attention to reading up on areas where I have little interest.

    Also, you make a great point about her using the SD/SB relationship as a way to expand her horizons.

  303. NitemareSD says:

    If she needs to broaden her hoizen, that could be a third problem NC has yet to discover. 😮

  304. ~*KITTY*~ says:


    *shakes head* I think I am losing my communication skills everyday that i spend on my bberry/SMS/e-mail/blogs. Even my sales reports have run-on sentences.

  305. ~*KITTY*~ says:

    NC: just another perspective. Maybe she really isn’t very intellectual but wants to use SD/SB arrangement to broaden her hoizon and gain intellect.

  306. ~*KITTY*~ says:

    No Caffeine… just pure energy! Got up at 4 am this morning!
    Suthrn: That is true, most people can only read about things they are interested in. so your approach makes sense.

  307. SuthrnExec says:

    NC, thanks for lobbing the softball in there nice and fat! You’re making it easy to look good! lol

  308. SuthrnExec says:

    LOL @ Kitty — NC, that’s about the reaction I would expect!

    Kitty, I like that idea generally, however, it’s hard for me to read-up and hold my attention on areas that I have little interest – I’d much rather discuss it with my sugar – and ask questions like, “What about it really interests you? What drives your passion about x?” That is really what interests me about a subject area that I am unfamiliar but a huge interest area for my sugar. Honestly, compared to OC, I’m probably the knuckle-dragging moron of the two of us!

  309. NC Gent says:

    Thanks SE — I think the age thing is the better avenue on it. Once again, you are the man!

  310. NC Gent says:

    A little too much caffeine this morning Kitty?

  311. ~*KITTY*~ says:

    Tell her how much you are into nuclear waste and eco-friendly systems and send her an online book. She can gain insight and learn and perhaps you will have more to talk about. It;s part of the SD/SB experience I think.

  312. SuthrnExec says:

    Never seen that show so i’m not familiar with the comparison. I would just say that she’s younger than you are typically attracted to – that’s true, right? Even though she maybe mature for her age, there’s a certain amount of life-maturity that can’t be attained until you’ve lived it. And who knows, after you get to know her better, she could be an intellectual-introvert!

  313. ~*KITTY*~ says:

    I know I am not nearly as educated as my (ex?) pot. SD. What he did was send me online books or links on subjects that he is interested in and told me to read up on it. Of course these subjects are things that we have talked about before.

  314. ~*KITTY*~ says:

    If you said that you normally go for more intellectual girls. I would be pretty damn pissed and I would definitely come here or on Sugar World and tell the world what a huge Asshole you are!

  315. NC Gent says:

    Yeah — appreciate comments — it does sound arrogant of me :(

    Not sure if you ever watched Girls Next Door — the reality show with Hef and his girls… well she is just like a younger Holly in that show… super sweet and very caring, but just not much depth… does that make any sense?

    Maybe the best thing is to leave out the details… and just say, your typically not the type that I have gone for in the past, but I am willing to try if you are…. but I am kind of screwed if she asks what is the difference…

    Maybe I don’t tell her anything, and if it ends it ends… but I don’t think that is that fair also…

  316. SuthrnExec says:

    Good morning you two! NC, let me think on that a bit – sounds a little insulting/condescending to put it that way. I think I know what you mean, but what makes you think she’s not an intellectual? Maybe her interests are in areas that are far from yours and you didn’t get to see the intellect come through?

  317. NC Gent says:

    Good morning Kitty!

  318. NC Gent says:

    Good morning all! Hi Southern!

    I had a sugar meet-and-greet last night for dinner. It went very well. She was very sweet, friendly, not conceited, upbeat, and very pretty (just like her pics, which I thought had to be fake). It was actually a little uncomfortable, because we got a lot of looks in the restaurant, which I usually don’t care about. She is a little younger than I go for, but she is very mature for her age. I also usually go for women that are a little more intellectual. When we parted, she gave me a big hug, and said she was very interested. I said I was very interested and would call her soon.

    I am actually very interested, but I have concerns that it is going to get old kind of quickly because not a lot of intellectual convo is going to happen. On the other hand, it may be great to just have some mindless fun. I don’t want her to feel bad if it ends in a few months though. Do you think it is ok to tell her something like….. I think you are super sweet, upbeat, positive and very pretty, but in the past, I have typically been attracted to women that were a little more intellectual. It may be fun to give this a try though, and I am willing and excited if you are.

    Any suggestions on a nicer ways to say… a little more intellectual would be appreciated.

  319. ~*KITTY*~ says:

    Morning Suthrn! Reporting for duty

  320. SuthrnExec says:

    Good morning everyone – if you’re lurking out there, come out, come out!

  321. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    oups ok i can’t read either lol sorry ,,, i get your my height

  322. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ i don’t mention how tall i am???? 5’9 with heel 6 feet
    i’m sure your tall enough lol, ok now i’m off to bed i work in the morning , typing law documents and i need all my head from that i don’t understand!
    talk to all of you tomorrow

  323. NitemareSD says:

    We are the same height. You don’t mention height in your profile.

    Regardless, I can be as tall as you need me to be.

  324. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ok good nite
    NitemareSD~ are you tall??? lol
    good night

  325. NitemareSD says:

    Thanks Today

    Got a call in a few hours about the situation with on org that assists in such matters. I am very curious to find out what is really possible.

  326. sugarbabytoday says:

    oh well i am off to bed now, nightmare I will get back with you to answer those questions int he next day or so just have to catch him when he gets off his flight every one have a good night

  327. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ not sure they are all like this here lol
    when you get back on the market you let me know lol as long as your tall

  328. sugarbabytoday says:

    Good morning every one! Hey nightmare I haven’t forgotten about you just been hectic. I am waiting for an answer from one of my friends.

  329. NitemareSD says:

    Curiousity. Wanted to know where the good ones could be found just in case.

  330. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ i was joking lol,why did you check out where brossard was?

  331. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol ahhh there goes my dreams lol

  332. NitemareSD says:

    I was reading bloomberg to see how much progress was made today toward making the US a second world country.

    Then I read about the woman who worked for playboy ent and is suing for sexual harrassment. There’s a little description of the unrequited SD’s offer.

    Did beachgirl make the first move by asking if she gets a date or did I make the first move by typing Bossard into Google?

    If I were actively looking, BG would be on my list to contact.

  333. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ did i scare you off??? lol

  334. ♥ϒoung&ƒabulous♥ → 300345 says:

    Oh My!!!! My post made it seem like it’s all about SEX…….Ok 2 rephrase that…….We shouldn’t have to invest our time or sex in someone who is not worth it…….it’s like a BF relationship except for……it’s alot more FUN!!!!! Remember SUGARS♥ ……..Do not EVER settle for less, when you deserve the BEST!!!!!!!!

  335. ♥ϒoung&ƒabulous♥ → 300345 says:

    Good evening SUGARS!!!!! Gah!!! So many new bloggers it’s hard to keep track….I’ve been away for awile & it seems like forever!!!!!

    Ok now to answer the blog question………….

    I think the SD should “Give” 1st only because….if a SB gives 1st it’s just like walking down the street & having random sex or a one night stand….You can’t just trust someone cause they say “Hey trust me” ya know?!? They may promise the world but until they prove they are worthy of our “SUGAR” the sugar must stay in the jar!!!!! That’s just my opinion….♥

  336. SouthernGirl*302249* says:

    Nicely put, Summer!! I also have wondered about the married men who desire exclusivity from their SB, but I always just chalked it up to wanting to preserve the sugar relationship and eliminate the possibility of anyone that could interrupt the fun.

    Very fair argument, ma’am. Might you be interested in teaching sugar classes anytime soon?

  337. Summer 98206 says:

    Hey sugar family! Haven’t been active much here lately, but wanted to address Lisa’s earlier question about the married guy who wants you to be exclusive to him.

    I actually had this happen to me with a longterm SD (we were together over a year) who was married w/ children. In the beginning, on that first date, he did the usual outlining of everything he wants, his “wish list.”

    * I want to pay you a cash allowance of $x,000/mo.
    * I want you to travel to my city 2 weekends a month, all expenses paid
    * I want you to be available for occaisional trips together
    * I need you to be discreet, contacting me only at certain times, places, etc

    ok, sounds good so far…then he said:

    * I want you to have NO OTHERS in your life but ME!

    (And I thought, “selfish, much?”)

    But ya know, these things can be worked out. Once you explain to the guy that you have a different point of view, he can usually come to understand what you’re saying and accept that he’s not the only man in your life. After all, you accept that you’re not the only woman in his, right?

    In my case, I just approached it this way – I told him my wants:

    * I want to keep myself open – as a single lady, I want to be able to pursue love if I should find it again. I want a future, a husband and kids someday, just like *you* have. Why should I invest myself so heavily in a married man when I know he can’t give me the future I want and deserve? And, why wouldn’t my daddy want me to have that opportunity at lasting future happiness, should it come my way? Of course he wants me to be happy!

    * I want to always be honest. If I have more than one sugar daddy, or if I meet a man I want to date exclusively, I will be honest with my SD and give him the chance to end the relationship if that bothers him. Or I may choose to end the relationship at that point. We both know that this “affair” is exactly that – we’re not promising each other love or forever here.

    * I want to have safe sex always. Not just for my sake (and those future children I want to bear), but for his, too. Since he is still sexually active with his wife, it is in his best interest to keep his extramarital activities SAFE. For her sake. He loves his wife, so of course he wants to protect her health as much as his own.

    Once I explained it to him this way, he could see my point of view.

    Hopefully your SD will, too. Or if this guy doesn’t pan out, it’s a conversation you might find yourself having to have with a future SD if he is the married and wants exclusivity (surprisingly, a high number of the married ones do…and it still boggles my mind as to why…) but I’ve found this approach to be both fair and effective in helping them see reason.

  338. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sorry NitemareSD i’m giddy tonight

  339. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    if so when and where lol

  340. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    why do i get a SD [email protected] lol

  341. NitemareSD says:

    So Brossard is just before you get to Montreal driving from NYS?

  342. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i’m lyane 1 at hot mail

  343. Cat says:

    BG: Tu devrais m’ajouter a ton MSN. Sweet girl coller ensemble puis 666 coller apres (clavier anglais, pas d’accent lol) @ msn point com :)

  344. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i think i should change my headline to ” only serious SDs may apply” lol

  345. Cat says:

    NightmareSD: I’m sure “gimme” and “I want” is charming…for a 2yr old…but not so much for a classy SB. The messed up part about it is that those “gimme” girls probably get more e-mails than I do! So much for being sincere…

  346. Cat says:

    I couldn’t help reading Natasha’s post. I have to say, that if that is what a man wants, and a SB would be willing to settle down with a SD, then aren’t the possibilities endless? If I were successful, wanting to settle down and thinking about a family, I would be more willing to do so with a wealthy man. It’s reassuring…The thing is, could a wealthy man just want to have a child with a beautiful healthy young woman to assure a beautiful healthy child and then after it’s potty trained, get full custody so that he can have his cake and eat it too? It’s not too far fetched, it’s pretty common actually..

  347. NitemareSD says:

    You are missing key phrases like “spoil!ME” “I WANT” “gimme”

    That tell an SD you have so much to offer him.

  348. Cat says:

    NightmareSD: How about mine, “This part of my life, it’s called adventure”…I got inspired by the movie The Pursuit of Happiness.

  349. SBMapleLeafs says:

    Natasha, I met SD with same intentions. He was desperate to concieve a child and get married eventually. On second date he started to ask me to have unprotected sex with him. He started to tell me what he will rent us apaprtment in city I live, offered me employment in his company and everything. We got intimate on fourth date, and week after that , he called me and told me what he does not want a relationships, he is not ready for them, he just want to date me “casually” and be friends.

    Needless to say, I have got no spoiling, nothing in return. And problem is I really fall for this guy, he was good looking, charming and really wealthy. I even felt what I screwed something up with him that is why he does not want relationships with me anymore, just date me and be friends.

  350. NitemareSD says:

    Some of the fun on SA is just in the browsing. A little SD window shopping as it were. Here are a few nice scenes visible while passing by the SB world.

    “The One and Only Passionate Lady” – That’s a little disappointing

    “Lookin for a sugar daddy :)” – OK, kinda knew that already.

    “Looking for the excitment of a new life” – seriously, there are better ways to get pregnant.

    “N0T EASY N0R SLEAZY JUST A TEASE bbY” – 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

  351. lisa says:

    Natasha that sd sounds a little extreme. Sounds like he’s looking for a wife not a sb. You with a kid (probably ending up caring for it by yourself) doesn’t sound like the sugarbaby lifestyle to me.

    I agree that sds should always make the first move. Even in the animal world, the male bird puts on a show and flaunts himself to impress the female.
    These men need to flaunt their wealth a little to impress the sb.

  352. Rachel says:

    i deff. Think the sd should be the first to do their part ! Some of these guys think that as a sb we are required to put out then if we meet their standards they reward .. the sugar baby is the one who should be getting pampered that is the point guys you treat a girl who wouldnt normally have the chance to be a princess like a queen!

  353. Natasha says:

    ok…i will write the story some girls have been waiting for. I had my 2nd date with my potential suggardaddy. we had food delivered to his office because he wanted to watch a movie on this new tv he bought for it and i agreed. apperently he made the move and we got intimate. during intimacy he told me he doesnt want it to be a one day thing. he made it clear he wants to start seeing me often.which i was not expecting that.he started askin me question like when was the last time i went to the gyno and if i was clean. he said he was clean. he had the odassity to tell me he wouldnt mind having a kid with me and he wanted to have unprotected sex towards the end. told me i had nothing to worry about cuz i will be financially secured. I declined big time. now i am stuck he asked me to leave my job and go work for him. i declined also. and he offered me a fulltime driver with his benz. i delined that one also. is this normal like i am so confused……

  354. Natasha says:

    n e girls in here have experience with suggardaddie dating?

  355. Natasha says:

    Hi girls I am back after a week!!!!

  356. lisa says:

    my grandparents were 50 and 59 when my mom was born, she was the last of 9 children. My grandmad had her first child at 28. Grandpa was born in 1881 and grandma 1890. mom was born in 1940 and I was born in 1965. My dad was born in 1925.

    Gotta go for awhile, have my friend on the phone. Be back later

  357. sunshineberry says:

    128!!!! seriously? you’re only in your 40s! That makes no sense! Your parents and grandparents must have been young in turn. My great-grandma is alive and in her 90s.

  358. lisa says:

    as long as the are younger than 128, I can’t be dating my granpa, lol as long as they are younger than 84, I can’t be dating my dad (deceased too)
    that will make me feel better, lol

  359. lisa says:

    yikes my grandpa if he were still living would be about 128, my mom is 69. I have only had on sd from this site and he was younger than me.

  360. Mel says:

    Hi all. So I’m all very new to this, but I have been reading the blogs and am learning quite a bit. Its very nice they are on here.

    This is my first online site, not to mention my first sd/sb anything.


  361. sunshineberry says:

    Hahaha, I love that. I mean…let’s be real. My grandfather is 68. I’m sorry, I can’t even remotely justify that. Plus, he looked older than that. Maybe 1,000. I’m not going to pretend to be attracted to someone like that. Terrible. I can just see it, me sitting on his knee as he hands me Werther’s Originals…oy. I hope I’m not being too offensive–but that was a 30-year-old margin of error, my friend.

    Also, there was debate about fudging your age…while I had a bad experience with this, I don’t think it’s too problematic to change it by a few years. Of course, reducing it by a third is a bit problematic.

  362. lisa says:

    Welcome Sunshineberry

    I met one of those helftier ones too. He didn’t have a full body pic and when I met him, he was huge, at least 300 lbs. I weigh about 100 lbs so that’s too big. He did take me shopping though but nothing beyond that. I believe he was legit finanically but I his weight would make intimacy very akward to any smaller sb.

    Send me the 71 year old, lol i’m 43 but I guess he’s only interested in 20 somethings. lol There is an ambulance across the street at the fire station and the hospitals 4 blocks down, so i’m prepared for an older one, lol

  363. sunshineberry says:

    Hi! I’m relatively new to the site.

    I’ve met three different people. The first turned out to be a legitimate big roller; he’s actually known for his money management. Unfortunately, he liked about several things:

    1) what he wanted. He wanted an escort.
    2) His age–twice. Profile says 42, on phone he said he was 50, and in person he was…drumroll, please…SEVENTY ONE YEARS OLD. I’m 23.
    3) His relationship status. Yep, married.

    The second person I met was way heftier than his pictures. Way. Otherwise, he was a gem. He was a gentleman and even though the attraction wasn’t there, he helped me out.

    The third person is pretty fun, so all’s well that ends well, right? I haven’t been intimate with anyone. I approach this as a relationship, since that’s what it is to me.

  364. raine says:

    Jamisen!! I knew someone was amiss! [So many more now I can barely keep up.]

    Many of us are still trying, to say the least. 😐

  365. lisa says:

    Welcome back Jamisen :)

  366. Jamisen/305521 says:

    Hi all in sugarland! I know I have been away a while, but I had some things to take care of. Remember a while back to the SD I was supposed to meet up with and we rescheduled.. well we both kinda fell off our message spree so I guess it’s time to look for new pot SDs.

    How has everyone been during my hiatus?

    As for the blog topic: I prefer to answer each one as they come. Sometimes when the men I contact don’t contact me back right away, I like to please myself to think that he is waiting for a bunch of e-mails and then picking and choosing. Either way, I try not to stress about it too much, because if he hasn’t responded back to my message, it’s his loss!

  367. lisa says:

    I might change the age on my profile. If the site administrator asks for proof, I will ask for proof that all these guys are worth the millions they say they are worth. A few years is not that big of a deal when you don’t look your age but claiming to be a sd when you’re just looking for free sex or pics or claiming to have a gucci budget when it’s more like walmart or dollarama is decietful too. lol

  368. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ChocolateSnowBunny~ yeah i know!
    raine~i know i don’t get it either , i think it’s more the age thing, but who cares, i’m sitting and waiting! if somethig happens cool if not ahhh well

  369. raine says:

    I’m 31 myself, so I doubt rigging my age would make much difference.

  370. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    BG: You can read back and come to your own conclusion. I’m just observing.

  371. raine says:

    The “too old” tripe is bad enough, but too close? Huh. I would think that a local would work just as hard to get things rolling*, but that’s just me, I suppose…

    *one could show what the other may have missed in their own backyard. “hey, I didn’t even know ___ was here…this is nice.” or, “I’ve read about ___ but never got around to going/experiencing.” no stars in my eyes, I’m just sayin’.

  372. lisa says:

    I was thinking of changing mine to 38 , 5 years because I do have an 18 year old daughter I can’t go to far down. lol I don’t want to look 25, I was pregant at the time, not a good look, lol

  373. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa~ yeah i would take lots of the allowance and gifts and stuff away ,,, as for changing my age i think i should lol, hey i look 25 right?
    i fell 22

  374. lisa says:

    I haven’t had them tell me i’m too old yet, but then again I dont’ get much response and that’s probably why. Maybe we should change our ages on our profiles? Take off a few years. Yes it’s lying but hey how many of these guys really are worth 50 million?

    I would think that traveling back and forth would take away alot of the time together along with the funds for allowance and spoiling. If a guy paid for me to visit him I wouldn’t think of that as part of my spoiling as I was traveling for his benefit so that he didn’t have the hassle of traveling.

  375. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa~ i agree with that to some extent, long distance relationship is hard to nurture and it’s sometimes not worth it, i wish there was a guy in this city that would like me to be his SB, but they have all said , i’m too close or too old lol

  376. lisa says:

    I live in the fourth largest city in the US and you would think that I would be able to find one in this huge state. but not

    A potential sd that I met from this site last year actually told me something , and this is from a sd’s perspective. He said that the long distance arrangements , although intentions might be good, rarely work out, as if a man can’t find someone in his own city, with all the available sbs, there’s no point in going long distance. This is what he told me, not my opion, but there are probably many sds that feel this way. Now if the sd lives in sticktown, he most likely has to look out of town for variety and privacy.

  377. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa~ it’s true , it’s the same bull crap from some of the SDs, but i know they are real ones i just didn’t find him yet,,,
    i know one real one , but i live way too far so,…. and we still talk occasionally

  378. lisa says:

    it all comes to the reason many of the sbs come to this site in the first place, tired of traditional relationships where a man won’t even pay for dinner. This site promotes more and when a new sb comes aboard and sees the same old lies, it’s easy for them to get discouraged. If all men were gentlemen, there would be no bitter women.

  379. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ that should be the way SBs are !! I hope to find a good SD , but right now just a little jaded i think… it’s so simple, don’t play games , be upfront.. how hard can that be?
    CSB~ Did anyone get called stupid and naive???

  380. lisa says:

    Nico there is a huge Barnes and Noble about 10 miles from me that I used to like to go to. They have a starbucks and all. I like to go there with my family but it’s not much fun alone. I’m more of a curl up at home with a book than a go out and read type. Actually I can’t still long enough to read a book, I’m a type A person. I used to buy those expensive European magazines they sold , back when I had some money to spend).

    I used to like spend time at the downtown library but it has became a haven for the homeless and perverts. I was in there one day looking for some decorating books and the librarian came up and told me that I best leave the area because some man was on the other side of the shelf trying to take pic up my skirt. Instead of tossing the man out, they told me to leave the area.

  381. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Wow, I would hate to be a newbie and come here for advice only to be called stupid and naive. I thought this blog is where we welcome different experiences and reserve our judgments. Most times this blog is the only place for SBs and SDs alike to ask questions and get advice from the more experienced.

  382. lisa says:

    NitemareSD I don’t have a personal relationship with my daughter. My mom has her brainwashed and she is never going to date or have sex. She is very religious and her myspace is full of preaching about about running from impurity and sex sin. She wears a purity ring too. She has scared off all her friends (she used to have alot) by telling them they are going to hell. My visits with my daughter are very short, 15 or 20 minutes while she waits for the bus, my longer visits are when she and my parents visit, so we have no alone time.

  383. Nico says:

    Lisa ~ when I don’t have money to spend I may go to the bookstore and browse books and just hang out…enjoy my coffee there 😀

  384. NitemareSD says:

    Lisa, what do you tell your daughter, on the eve of turning 18, about relationships; about not getting into the types of regretful situations some of the naïve people here have had? How does she spot the users whatever the social situation beforehand?

  385. lisa says:

    raine I don’t cook so the kitchen shouldn’t get on fire, lol

  386. lisa says:

    I would visit my friend who is off tomorrow too but she doesn’t want to go anywhere or have any fun. Just sit around going through all the notes she has taken on her loser boyfriend that she should have dumped months ago. She hates going to the mall, hates shopping, not into the internet. Only thing she likes to do is go to clubs and get drunk and I don’t do that kinda thing. She picks up loser guys there too. We are great friends but so different in our interest.

  387. raine says:

    …and yet many opt to complicate things by adding other stuff, setting the kitchen ablaze!

  388. lisa says:

    Nitemare I don’t think I will go to the Galleria on friday anymore. That guy I ran into last week will probably be there as he is off on fridays. The one that offered me the “personal assistant” at 100 dollars per meeting offer. It’s odd if I go to the mall down the street I rarely see anyone I know, I got across town and almost every time I run into someone in that huge mall and at that particular starbucks when there are 3 in the mall. odd

    Anyway I’m broke as rent and my daughter’s birthday money have emptied my bank account. Probably sit home again bored.

  389. NitemareSD says:

    Its such a simple recipe:

    A dose of Really good girlfriend material with a pinch of I need my freedom serves up one fine SB.

    I’d like to hear about how lisa spent her day off at the Galleria tomorrow evening.

  390. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ thank you , over qualified SB, i should write that in my profile lol and i like my freedoms, i really do, oh yeah also the spoiling , getting trips and money and gifts and some sensual time… couldn’t get that from a BF, they are all too clingy and they call 40 times a day to see how i am! no thank you!
    raine~ i had a guy write me and i didn’t get what he was saying had to ask him to clarify it lol i didn’t hear from him again lol
    Yes NitemareSD is being really nice to me!

  391. lisa says:

    NitemareSD is being very sweet today :) @Beach_Girl

    now what to do on my day off tomorrow, any suggestions anyone??

    met my daughter today, had company, did laundry today

  392. raine says:

    Your typing looks decent to me, BG, and NitemareSD’s right. 😀

  393. NitemareSD says:

    BG you sound like a wonderful candidate to make a really great girlfriend.

    You sound like a highly qualified SB

    You will find a very good SD eventually.

  394. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ what does your “nice girl like you” mean?

  395. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Oh and also i think my skills at email and chat typing aren’t that good lol, all new to this online thing lol oh and i’m french too so i get some words confused at times lol, not the sex ones but other lol

  396. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ i need my freedoms, and i like to get spoiled too! A lot lol!! i was with an SD for almost 15 years before , so i like this type of arrangement… Now if i only could find someone again!!!
    i know i’m not going to get the same things but it would be nice to have someone in my life again, it’s been too long!!!

  397. NitemareSD says:

    OCSugarBaby Says:

    I think SouthernGirl and NiteMareSD ran off together! LOL


    That would be seekingfantasy

  398. raine says:

    I almost fell asleep searching the other day, so yeah, sometimes one has to take a break…

  399. lisa says:

    I’m very nice and everything thinks I’m very shy and kinda square.

  400. lisa says:

    Nitemare I work in the supermarket, there are no love connections there. Most single men I know either eat out or just run into the supermarket and out. Also please note that the only difference between this and a regular dating site is the financial part. The men on those other sites are looking for sex too, and they expect the woman to pay half the date.

  401. OCSugarBaby says:

    NiteMareSD: Are you saying that the rest of us are NOT nice girls????

  402. NitemareSD says:

    BeachGirl what is a nice girl like you doing in a place like this? Why aren’t you on a regular dating site snaring some handsome devils or just looking confused in the supermarket isle when mr. Right comes walking by?

  403. OCSugarBaby says:

    I think SouthernGirl and NiteMareSD ran off together! LOL

  404. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nico~ yeah i didn’t search for a while , this BJ guy and i were talking, i dont like the games. I’m still gonna be on the blog , who knows maybe someone will mail me i have no clue, not gonna do the search though

  405. lisa says:

    thanks SuthrnExec. I sent him an email but did not click on the website.

    Beach_Girl I had 4 potentials since this past saturday and I had been in a drought forever. However 2 were flakes, one was very nice and we talked on the phone but he lost interest when he found out I can’t meet him 150 miles from my city), and this last one is just from today so I’m still waiting to see what happens.

  406. Nico says:

    Beach Girl ~ you’re right to follow your instincts and if nothing else, stick around the blog and keep your profile hidden. You can always check back :)

    Wishing you the best!

  407. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ~*kitty*~ maybe that is why i’m not gonna search for now! i’m done for a while
    Nico~ i know you all have had bad experiences i have been reading the older blogs and it’s helpful, but i need a break from this i think,
    OC~ i had 4 good mails , one of which is the BJ guy, the others just left who knows no news, all the other mail were sexually explicit and yes i did block them too. so i just need a break … just finish my school and that’s it! for now maybe someone will mail me and it’s gonna click i don’t know , but i’m not initiating anything for a bit!

  408. SuthrnExec says:

    Even if the website is dangerous, you shouldn’t have any problems sending him an email. Sometimes Norton AV and other AV programs that monitor web sites send out a false warning if it suspects the website to be the origin of phishing or malware. You should be fine sending an email though.

  409. lisa says:

    edit he “doesn’t” want his sb to see anyone else

  410. lisa says:

    Ok I just sent a nice return email to my latest potential at his email address. This is the one that wants his sb to see anyone else. Well I googled his email address as I had never heard of that email provider before and it was the name of a company but I got a security warning that the website was not safe to enter. So I guess I should not click on his email when he responds. Is this just a general thing my norton av is doing or is there a threat. It appears to be a company and his email is his last name @ the company name. com

  411. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Suthrn: I only need a small segment of ur hair for DNA, so this lock would do me plenty good :) Hey, at least I am not asking you to come and attach yourself to my electrical lobes.

    OC: That is very true, chemistry is the “je ne sais qual” that makes the sparkes fly and the smiles wide. That is the best part, but the communication is what makes it work :)

    Beach_girl: You haven’t been here nearly as long as some of us. the key is to be patient and not let it consume your life. Just let it naturally flow. I too have been so involved in the process and the search that I was driving myself crazy. I wanted my perfect arrangement to commence immediately! But I realized that when I ignore it and stop thinking so much, it just happens.

  412. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: Amen Sister, we have all gotten our share of Freaky-Deeky emails and requests along the way. I just hit the delete and block buttons so fast their are never thought of again.

  413. Nico says:

    Beach girl….we may not have seen YOUR e-mail but don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re the only one that has received them….trust me 😉

    I have been on this site for close to a year and granted was hidden and not active for almost 6 mos while I enjoyed the companionship of my first SD/SB relationship. I am now planning to meet with a gentleman that more fits the bill but yes, there are a long ‘down’ time or a long search for the one but again, it mirrors a real relationship in many ways……you’re not always going to be in a long dating relationship with the first guy you go out with either.

  414. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa~ lol, maybe your right! but i hate the games, i really do! i want up front and honest..

  415. lisa says:

    Beach_Girl this guy probably lives with his parents, is unemployed and plays on the computer. He probably was talking to dozens of women and set up dates with all of them. He has nothing better to do so spending 2 weeks talking with you and probably many others is his hobby

  416. lisa says:

    Hi everyone , back in for the day. I have checked out the least viewed sds and they are mostly the free members who joined and never came back or are offering very little, and no pics either

    When I first joined I received alot of response and met 3 within a few weeks. Then it slowed down actually till I lost my job and then I had another flow of offers, two materialized but how many did I talk to and spend time getting to know before I found those two? Probably about 20. Nothing after that and now I have occasional time where I will get 4 responses in a few days (like right now) but none of them pan out any more. Distance, game playing, creep, and another one that sounds kinda dominating that I haven’t answered yet.

  417. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ i know almost 2 weeks and then bull crap! It’s like the only thing i seem to be asked to do!!!
    SouthernGirl~I’m definitely not insecure, but new to this online thing, i hate that most, not all play games from the start!
    I hate the games , just be honest, up front, and dont bull crap anyone.. it just sucks
    OCSugarBaby~ All the negativity?!? we all have experiences,whether bad or good, i think we are all here to share and get advice!
    And yeah maybe i am jaded , you all didn’t get the mails i did!

  418. NitemareSD says:

    SouthernGirl you are oh so cute even when you are right!

    The VultureSD is there to lift you up from the bottom. He is smart and knows value.

    My problem is I keep using the VultureSD technique on the FreshMeat and keep getting shooed away by the lions.

  419. OCSugarBaby says:

    Kitty: In so many ways Suthrn and I are figuring it out along the way, but I have to say that our communication and chemistry is great. You can teach communication but not the chemistry part :)

  420. SouthernGirl*302249* says:

    Nitemare: The VultureSD. Both target insecure women (one is insecure because of the new-ness of sugar dating, another because she feels neglected in the sugar bowl) but the VultureSD can be a good thing….provided, of course, that the gal in question is secure in herself.

    I take it you are a VultureSD? :-)

  421. SuthrnExec says:

    Kitty – I wouldn’t be so sure about that nurture vs. nature thing. If you only knew my “nurture” background! LOL

    If OC takes a lock of my hair, I wouldn’t have much left, so the first experiment better work!

    Let me encourage all the discouraged to hang in there. I know you hear that a lot, but it’s really important not to get discouraged. Maybe one of reasons some are discouraged so easily is that they read of success stories often and they are beginning to think it won’t happen for them – it seemingly happens quickly to everyone else. I think that is a common perception, but it’s a misconception borne out of the fact that there are a large number of people on the blog. Back when I and some of the other old-timers joined, it was nothing to see a blog topic go for a week and have only 30 posts. So the sheer number of people on the blog was a fraction of what it is today – and there weren’t so many success stories, giving the correct perception that this takes time.

    Bottom-line: I would venture to say that for any given success story, the SB or SD, if not both, were searching for months prior to their success. Never give up!

  422. NitemareSD says:

    In case you are wondering, it goes for tigers and stripes too, but no one ever seems to mention it.

    So given the remaining choices, which one is the SB better off with, the FreshMeatSD or the VultureSD?

  423. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Maybe Suthrn would be kind enough to share himself with the world and start a training program. A fund can be established to subsidize the cost lol

  424. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Yes, and all we’ll have to show for it is a locket of his hair *sniff*

  425. ~*kitty*~ says:

    And I do believe Suthrn;’s behavior is probably nurtured not simply nature.

  426. NitemareSD says:

    When they clone cats the spots end up in the wrong place. A leopard can’t change his spots, but his DNA can the next time around.

  427. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Haha Kitty…..it is an excerpt from Nitemare’s comment. The VultureSD 😉

  428. OCSugarBaby says:

    Kitty: Surthrn is a gem. I think he could be cloned and the world would be a better place. He allows me to be the best I can be and not worry about the small stuff. I know I do the same for him. Unlike traditional dating, our relationship is like a breath of fresh air. It is so easy peasy. Loving it!!! :)

  429. NitemareSD says:

    I love the least viewed concept, but it is spoiled by the lack of pictures. Many other relationship sites offer the option to search for profiles with pictures only.

  430. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Nico: ?

  431. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    “…nailing her…”


  432. ~*kitty*~ says:

    oc: how are you doing my dear. Don’t stop your feel-good stories it gives off a great vibe in the room. :) O btw, when you see Suthrn next time, please grab a small lock of his hair and mail it to my please? I am working on an experiment to clone good SDs.

  433. OCSugarBaby says:

    Hi Kitty! Yes, I too hate to see the blog so negative in its platform or banter. I try to interject good stories, yet dont want to seem like I am bragging or flaunting my happy SD/SB relationship. I post them because I want to show that it can and does happen. It took several months but not taking the kooks too seriously is important. Freaks will be freaks. They will not stop their antics. However we can not fuel their fire by engaging them in lengthy banter.

    BeachGirl: Did you see the red flags prior to the two weeks? If so, call the bird out of the bush so to speak and if you are not getting a worthy answer, let that bird lie (pun intended).

  434. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Nitemare: I believe there is an option that allows you to search for the Least viewed members lol

  435. NitemareSD says:

    I can’t imagine blowing two weeks of work getting to know an SB by asking for a BJ on the first date.

    I think new members get alot of emails because there are members who specifically search for the newest and target them. It gives a false impression that there will always be a windfall. Call them FreshMeatSDs

    There must be a strategy which involves giving the avg SB a couple/three weeks to get disappointed and realize the emails are shrinking and then nailing her right at that weak moment when she no longer thinks she’s all that. That would be VultureSDs.

  436. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Yup… *gives Nico a cookie*
    If you start reading other sources on it IE regarding sociology, it’s quite interesting. Just another take on the issue :)

  437. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Enjo-kōsai means “compensated dating” and is a practice which originated in Japan where older men give money and/or luxury gifts to attractive women for their companionship, and possibly sexual favors. The female participants range from school-age girls to housewives. A common misconception is that enjo-kōsai always involves some form of sexual activity. The term enjo-kōsai first appeared in the Asahi Shimbun on September 20, 1994. In the opposite case of women paying men, it is called gyaku-enjo-kōsai


  438. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Hey KITTY!! Yes, today has been interesting but enlightening for many :)

  439. ~*kitty*~ says:

    *waves at Nico*

  440. ~*kitty*~ says:

    I suggest everyone look up “Enjo Kosai” it’s the Japanese version of Sugar Dating.

  441. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Well, I honestly wouldn’t have met with him in person but sometimes when people are blatantly disrespectful I would’ve redirected his thoughts by ‘playing the role’. For example, treat me like a prostitute and and you’ll be treated like a John…..convert him so to speak and/or show him the errors in his ways.

  442. raine says:

    Ohhhh…it’s a cycle, then. Guess I gotta throw the pasta against the wall and see what sticks. The previous topic is so chock full of stories now, I’m still trying to recover. Good thing I came in here before signing up, huh?

  443. first time guy says:

    Thanks Nico and SuthrnExec.

    A lot of guys my age (im 20)are real d-bags and it’s not that easy finding stable older men. Those I’ve tried seeing always tell me that they find me somehow intriguing and smart. Gotta be myself.

    I tend to obsess. I’ve logged in more than 30 times since I’ve written to all 3 potential SDs (1 of which I wasn’t going for, didn’t quite fit his criteria). I’ll try not to check in so much.

    Mommy’s are another topic altogether – I’ll raise some questions I have about ’em later.

    Thanks ladies!

  444. ~*kitty*~ says:

    *feels like the opportunities are endless

  445. ~*kitty*~ says:

    I have noticed that as a general trend.
    Many new SBs come here with high high hopes.
    signs up
    gets loads of e-mails from pot SDs.
    Feels like the opportunity is endless.
    Meets with several pots.
    Some good, Some Bad…
    Then slowly, but surely gets jaded.
    Comes to blogm finds new hope and learns…
    Some gets jaded still, some gets the motivation needed and soldiers on.

  446. raine says:

    Hi kitty. Many of us are a wee fed up, to put it mildly. Up until now, I was just scared stupid. 😐

  447. lisa says:

    Darn Beach_Girl why did you let that winner go? lol if you want I can send you the one that contacted me, he wasnt some pics and hot kinky sex. lol

    Friend just left, going to the laundrette now. It is so windy here that I had to change my skirt for jeans, lol Gonna blow to the laundry now.

    Thanks SuthrnExec I just don’t like my daughter seeing and sharing my finances with my parents, it will just start another fued between us and we won’t see each for months, just like the december before last. I moved out and she stayed with my parents. They are elderly and live on SS and barely make more than I do, and with the cost of their supplimental insurance, they make less.
    I dont want my daughter to get into debt with a loan as I had one of those and it came time to make payments when I was at my worst. The school didin’t get me anywhere either.
    I have to try to find my w2s somewhere as I put them in the big box in the closet after I filed this year so I have no idea where they are. I keep a copy on usb drive though but I have to go find someplace to print them.

    Gotta go now, laundry is calling. Have a good afternoon everyone.

  448. raine says:

    Case in point…not house or even condo, huh? An APARTMENT. No pics forthcoming, either…I can’t imagine what you’d have in store, Nico.lol

  449. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Afternoon everyone. There are some pretty interesting discussion here definitely love the bluntness. :)

  450. raine says:

    I’d hate to see anyone else throw in the towel, even when I myself am ambivalent about the whole thing. On the same token, I can’t really blame you.

    It’s at the point now where the jive tofurkeys on both sides make it harder by the nanosecond for EVERYBODY.

    Luckily for me, I see this as a hobby (and a job) of sorts, and I don’t have some crazy sugar deadline. Again, I’m all for a challenge, but I really don’t think it should be this hard.

  451. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol he didn’t want to send pics of himself either!!! and he wanted to meet at his appartment???? fishy

  452. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    BG ~ I might’ve have fun with him…….muah hahaha

  453. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    As i said i think i’m done with it all!!! It’s hard to find the real SDs here, or anywhere, i’m just done !

  454. raine says:

    Trying not to run outta this blog — and sugar dating in general — screaming! The horror, man…(scroll up to my previous comments as needed)

  455. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Raine~ i totally get that, what an ass!!! lol
    i’m ok i guess, think i’m getting a cold though, how are you?

  456. raine says:

    BG: gaaaahhh!! That, and eww. How are you otherwise?

  457. SuthrnExec says:

    Lisa, if you’re referring to a grant for your daughter’s college costs, your bad credit should not prevent her from receiving that either – they want to look at your W2s to determine if she meets the eligibility requirements.

    Bad credit can prevent your daughter from getting a student load from a private company; however, government student loans do not factor in credit ratings.

    Has she told her counselor that she lives with your parents? That may not make any difference if you are still her legal guardian.

    Hope this helps!

  458. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    I just got flushed by an SD, lol
    He asked me to give him a BJ on the first date, i flat out said no!
    funny i haven’t heard from him again lol , and we had been talking for almost 2 weeks….

  459. NitemareSD says:

    Well, I’m going out for a drive now.

  460. lisa says:

    Hi everyone, saw my daughter off to work. Waiting for my friend. Will be back later.

    Question does my bad credit affect my daughter being able to get finanical assistance for college. She saw the counselor at school today to see they could get her into college free but they need to see all my financial stuff like w2s and stuff. I don’t know why since she will be 18 in a week and hasn’t lived with me in 4 years. My parents make less than I do.

    Gotta go now

  461. ~Nico~213385~ says:


  462. SuthrnExec says:

    In my town, I have been successful peddling either bullets or flack-jackets because here, our crime is so bad, everyone is always wanting one or the other….

  463. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    hi Nico

  464. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Afternoon BG :)

  465. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Hello Sugars!

  466. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    well, I suppose I could do the squeegee…perhaps with a flair of the “Hooters” car wash concept to bring people to my off-ramp?

    Everybody needs a niche’ 😉

  467. NitemareSD says:

    Squeegees out of fashion?

  468. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: The OC is full of people at every off ramp just holding a sign asking for Money. No oranges in hand.

  469. OCSugarBaby says:

    NiteMare: I will immediately move my money into a lock box in the back of my closet. Both of my grandmothers did that and we found a boat load of cash when they passed away. One stashed it in her safety deposit box. My grandmother’s may have been on to something!

  470. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    I have resigned myself to the fact I may be selling oranges at the off ramps to tourists if things don’t pick up soon.

  471. NitemareSD says:

    OCSugarBaby Says:
    April 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    SBMapleLeafs: There is only financial security in one’s SELF!


    … and that’s only until the govt. nationalizes the banks and major industries and commits all your money to pay for it. 😮

  472. OCSugarBaby says:

    SBMapleLeafs: There is only financial security in one’s SELF!

  473. NitemareSD says:

    No, Maple, you slept with a guy you didn’t want to sleep with.

    Here’s what it looks like:

    If you sleep with a guy you want to sleep with you will be saying ‘yea! I slept with him and I feel really bad he didn’t call back,’ not ‘I feel used ’cause he didn’t come back from the ATM.’

    Speaking generically.

  474. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    luckeecharm ~ I’ve never been notified in the sense I’ve received a specific notice. I’ve always had to check my “Who has added me as a favorite” link to check into that.

  475. raine says:

    Since NightmareSD brought out the heavy artillery (and broke my inner Denis Leary out of the cage in the process), I must commend you, SBMapleLeafs, for admitting you goofed and learned your lesson. That in itself is a huge help for all the newbies on both sides. That’s what the blog (and everyone here) is for: the “just in case/for future reference” car on the sugar train.

  476. luckeecharm says:

    When you put someone in your favorites list they are notified and vice versa?

  477. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    I believe this thread should be saved as an introduction to the newbies on the sites hoping to gain some insight as to what a true SD/SB relationship should be like in addition to assisting in eliminating the misconceptions of this ‘type’ of relationship.

    *Hi-Fives* Nitemare on a job well done.

    For me, my SD is a Renaissance man, a romantic with honesty as a defining roll in his character. We have many similar interests and can carry on a comfortable conversation (both sharing our perspectives) whether it be on current affairs or people watching. He is a true gentleman yet can make me feel safe and secure in his presence. The chemistry is undeniable and the desire to do nice things for each other flows without a thought….*in dream land now* and meeting my Renaissance man this weekend 😉

  478. SBMapleLeafs says:

    NitemareSD Says,

    Yes. In my case I was stupid I don’t reject it. My stupidity came from my lack of knowledge and experience in SD/SB dating. Unfortunatly 99,9% of people learn from their own experience. But if I read the blog maybe I would of being in 0,01% of people who learn from experience of other people.:)

    I do think SD/SB dating differ from regular dating. SD usually are very busy, and their lack of attention to girl/woman they are willing to cover with some sort of financial or other form of assistance. And SB do not complain what they don’t have a chance to see their SD very often in this case.

    SD/SB is NOT a trading sex for money. For me at least. I want to be in financially secure/ mutually beneficial relationships. Trading sex for money is misconception of SD/SB thing which actually lead me to my first dissapointment ( I thought I am trading sex for money and was to shy to mention my financial needs upfront).

  479. luckeecharm says:

    Hi sugars babes,

    I guess I am a newbie and can I say I really don’t know what to expect. But to add in on the discussion I would think to make both parties comfortable it should be a go with the flow type of thing especially 1st 2nd date. If you click that will be evident, and ofcourse the daddy should out of normacy pay for dinner and the date but overall I don’t see why going into it it has to be owe before we go further you coming out big first! LOL

  480. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    LoL OC ~ he likes it. ahahaha

  481. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi Raine,
    Please do not make the grand exit.
    I enjoy the pleasure of your company here so much.
    Nightmare, you raise the level of conversation again with your candor.
    It is like you say so openly.
    Reminds me of the French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre and his beautiful discourse on hell.
    L’ enfer c’est l’autre.
    NON ! L’enfer c’est toi-meme.
    Hell is not the other, the outside world.
    Hell, that is yourself.
    In other words you find yourself in a bad situation.
    Do not blame others, you stepped inside it yourself.
    It took me a long time in my own life to come to this realisation.
    Things go wrong ? No I cannot blame HenriMcMurphy.
    It was my own misconception of reality.
    My compliments for your contribution.
    But that still leaves the hurt in the heart of all those SBs, that had been taken advantage of.
    All those suffering souls, come here and let me kiss you as a start of your healing process. My heart lies with you.

  482. OCSugarBaby says:

    Atalanta: MENTOR

  483. OCSugarBaby says:

    NitemareSD: Just because I agreed does not mean I have moved you from Nitemare to Dreamy column yet. ~Snicker

  484. NitemareSD says:

    Atalanta Says:
    April 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    But doesn’t sugar mean a lot more than just the physical (and monetary) benefits?


    Baby, you bet. Now everyone stretch their imaginations a bit and come up with two things OTHER than Sex or Money that relationships involve. Then post them here for all the rest to start putting into their relationship bags.

  485. lisa says:

    lol NitemareSd I don’t have photoshop though maybe just a closeup if his beak, lol

    Gotta go now, be back later

  486. NitemareSD says:

    Lisa, You could send a pic of you pigeon photoshopped with a cat half way down his beak.

  487. Atalanta says:

    Okay…I’m on the fence here. Only because I don’t think we should make “sugar” synonymous with money and sex.

    I think we all need to watch out for the trials and tribulations of misinterpretations, getting scammed, fear of hurt, etc.

    But doesn’t sugar mean a lot more than just the physical (and monetary) benefits?

    For instance, shouldn’t a SD be appreciative when his SD dresses up for him? Would no one call that sugar?
    And wouldn’t an SB be appreciative if they go out to a nice restaurant? Yes, that cost money, but it isn’t like giving money.

    I think by doing it this way, by giving and receiving, the next step, intimacy, will come naturally.

    If SD/SB is asking for sex and money too soon for comfort, then maybe one should hold off on making any moves. lol

  488. lisa says:

    I haven’t seen that movie, I rarely go to movies. I think people like him need to be reported though, imagine if some new sb joins the site and takes the bait.

  489. NitemareSD says:

    Just because some of you agree with what I say doesn’t mean I have to like it. :)

  490. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Have a good afternoon! x

  491. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Remember the movie SEVEN? And the dungeon library of files of pictures, newspaper clippings, dossiers on victims…. people get themselves “off” in all sorts of ways, some of them extremely maladaptive, and it’s not your job to indulge their predelictions. Remember that.

  492. lisa says:

    He see him as that type of person. Sitting home getting off on porn, probably lives in mom’s basement or in a little room somewhere. lol
    I gotta be going soon to meet my daughter and then I have a little company and then off to do laundry. Very busy afternoon, be back after 5.
    Have a good afternoon

  493. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    HA! So there you go, that’s exactly what is the “elephant”… and on here, it’s the sex/money issue, which nitemare nailed so succinctly.

    Well, I suppose, that would be funny, but why even waste your time. Guys like that have probably exhausted all the available internet porn and have now moved on to try and trick normal women into sending them dirty photos. Screw him.

  494. lisa says:

    Villa I was a little disappointed that he forgot to include his email adress when he sent me that request. I have a generic email adress with no real personal info that I use for this site. He asked for a closeup of my “kitty” I so much wanted to google a pic of a cute kitten and send it to him, lol

  495. lisa says:

    haha that’s funny Villa because Metro bus service uses an ad on the buses where there are people at a busstop and there is an elephant with sunglasses just standing there with them and they are so busy reading their paper or talking on the phone that they don’t even notice him.
    It’s about security “if you see something, say something” lol

  496. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Lisa ~~~ seriously, block that loser and tell him to F off, in your own mind, at least! Anyone who asks for close up photos of your genitalia does not even deserve ONE SECOND of your time! *sigh*

  497. lisa says:

    I don’t think he wants to meet anyone anywhere, he wants to come to me

  498. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Lisa –

    The expression “elephant in the room” refers to a situation where something major is going on, it’s on everyone’s mind and impossible to ignore — like an elephant in the room. But nobody talks about the “elephant” because nobody knows what to do about it.

  499. lisa says:

    Nitemare this guy has sent nothing but “do you like hot kindy sex” please send me a closeup of your ….” messages so I doubt he would be interested. He’s been on the site for many months and I actually contacted him way back and got a kinky response back then too. He is a little creepy looking I think (like he might have dead boys in his walls) but his profile sounds normal and you probably wouldn’t think he would be like that without he emailed you.

  500. NitemareSD says:

    Lisa if you write to the galleria area perv something like…

    “I am a little more conservative than many of the women here, and I see that both of us find the Galleria accessible, so I would prefer if we could meet there and talk a bit to see how we get along.”

    What do you think might happen?

  501. lisa says:

    I’m not getting the Elephant term? I guess I missed part of the conversation. lol

  502. OCSugarBaby says:

    I think NiteMareSD just bag’d himself a big ole ELEPHANT! Nice Shot!

  503. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    again, good point ~ if someone has not resolved his or her own personal ‘issues’, adding another person to the mix will only amplify them, and generally not in a positive manner.

  504. lisa says:

    the funny thing is I didn’t do well in regular dating because I expected committment and marriage was my goal, not some shack up deal. I was very stearn and conservative.

    Now i’m more lighthearted and have no desire for a close relationship with a man as I love my freedom and having my own place,making my own rules, etc. Now I find too many sds that want something serious rather than a mutually beneficial relationship.

  505. lisa says:

    my inbox has been active this week, 4 potentials but a fly in every ointment
    Still thinking about how to respond to this last email, any ideas on the married guy who wants a sd that has only him?

  506. NitemareSD says:

    Ok, since its early in the day, here is some more…

    If you are dysfunctional in regular dating relationships, you are almost certainly going to be dysfunctional in SD/SB relationships – probably in the exact same way.

    SA is not some cure site for the relationship challenged. Need to work on yourself? Get to work on YOURSELF. First step: look at yourself and figure out who and what you are in the dating world (at least.)

    If you are selfish and ungiving…you ain’t going to do well here with any of the range of arrangement types the vast majority of serious/genuine SA members require. You want a cold meet you for dinner and a little after thing twice a month for $500 cash a session? You can find it here, but it is what it is.

    Now go work on yourself. I’m going to do the same.

  507. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    It seems that the “sex for money” / “money for sex” issue is the proverbial elephant in the living room…. nitemare can see it though!! :)

  508. lisa says:

    chicago chicago I again spit at the authourity chicago

  509. OCSugarBaby says:

    NiteMareSD: I gave up preaching that sermon. Some will never figure it out. I know that I am the ONLY one who can make a change in my behavior. Mistakes are mini-life lessons. Learn from them and stop making the same ones!

  510. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Good afternoon Nitemare…I must say, I do appreciate your candor!

  511. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hi Nitemare… again… well said…. x

  512. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hi raine ~ wot do you mean?? the article was primarily about the UK recession…. of course some of the information applies across the ocean here in the USA… there should be lots of successful men in the windy city, no?

  513. lisa says:

    Good morning NitemareSD

  514. OCSugarBaby says:

    Raine: You need just jump in. No exiting required. You are in control and fear is not necessary.

    A married SD may or may not ask for you to be exclusive, but I think that communication is vital. It needs to be discussed for reasons pertaining to sexual exclusivity. Protecting partners is important. Not unlike any other relationship you would have outside of SA. However if they are asking you to be exclusive for other reasons…. You have to determine what works for you.

  515. NitemareSD says:

    Ok, obviously this needs to be mentioned again.

    You feel used because you didn’t read the blog? No, you weren’t used because you didn’t read the blog, you were used because you were STUPID.

    Now, wise-up for the rest of your life…

    You got disappointed in other people…no, you got disappointed in YOURSELF. Now get yourself together.

    You slept with him and got nothing in return? What? You didn’t WANT to sleep with him? Go read the part in ‘he’s just not that into you’ where they surveyed 100% of men who said they never accidentally slept with a woman, but many asked the authors how they might be able to get that to happen?

    You felt like you were or would be trading sex for money? You WERE trading sex for money. Now, if you don’t want to trade sex for money, DON’T TRADE SEX FOR MONEY.

    Have I missed anything?

  516. lisa says:

    Well i’m spending these next two days off doing nothing because none of my potentials can travel here. I guess no one reads our profiles because I have the part of about not being able to travel and that they need to come to me right in my profile. One buy disappears, the other hasn’t answered my last email but has been on the site, another guy wants kinky sex, the last one wants me someone who see only him

  517. raine says:

    the horror stories just keep on coming*.

    *Villa, is there something else I need to know before I make the grand exit? Anybody got an extra suitcase?

  518. lisa says:

    thanks I got it, it was hiding under the pic area, lol

  519. Lurker says:

    enter the mailbox on their e-mails.

  520. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    lisa – do you still have the messages they sent you? click on the message in your inbox, and then when that pops up, on the right side is “email me” and on the left side, under their photo is “block user”. that’s the only way i can see to block someone.

  521. lisa says:

    I clicked on blocked users and it says my list is empty and gives me no options to block anyone. Is this a premium only feature? If I click on profile I get send message, close window, or add as favorite. Where is the blocking feature?

  522. lisa says:

    How do I block members? I want to block the pervert guy and another one. I dont’ see the option to block anywhere

  523. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    LOL ~ the little gifts like the dog’s toy are the fun ones and can be done for somebody whether married or not. I like being able to surprise my ‘man’ with the little things that he may typically pick up himself but doesn’t for one reason or another. I think the bigger ‘gift’ is them knowing that we actually listen and care and they’re on our minds even when they’re not with us.

    Thinking cap not yet on 😉

  524. lisa says:

    Good morning raine
    I think a married man who has his life giong for him and then expects to see another woman and doesn’t want her to be open to meeting someone for a serious relationship is just down right selfish. This last potential that emailed said “you will have only me” but he has a wife.

  525. raine says:

    A married man asking for exclusivity…so oxymoronic and asinine I never could figure it out.

  526. lisa says:

    Where is Gail this morning?

    Wake up Gail, Wake up NitemareSD, Wake up everyone

  527. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: Oh wait Suthrn will read the ideas! Yikes nothing ever gets by that man. Gail has my email addy. Maybe she will share it with you. :)

  528. lisa says:

    I agree OC no man who is not committed to me in marriage or long term relationship has the right to tell me I can only see him. Why would any woman committ herself exclusively to a married man when the relationship will eventually end and she will be left alone? My lover doesn’t pry into my personal life. He speaks alot about his wife and daughters (both are grown and married) but does not pry into my life. He doesn’t try to change me and has never once asked me why I don’t drive. He has no problem coming to see me.
    Many years ago I had a neighbor that I noticed never left the porch during the day. She would pile her trash outside and then as soon as her husband came home, she would walk a few yards to the dumpster. Appearantly she wasn’t allowed off the porch when he wasn’t there.

  529. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: Gifts for SD? It is a bit harder if they are married. I showed Suthrn a very cool toy I got for my dog and he saw how much fun she had with it and said he should get one for his pup. Hehehe I opened the cupboard and pulled out he one I already got for his pup! I do like the idea of giving so share any good ideas you have so far! :)

  530. OCSugarBaby says:

    Lisa: My last boyfriend always jokingly said “He was the boss of me”, yet he is now an exboyfriend for that very statement.
    “I am the BOSS of me”…. :)

  531. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hi OC!!!
    Hi Henri! Yea, there was an article inthe UK telegraph last week about “mistresses are the latest victims of the credit crunch”. Look it up – interesting reading.

  532. lisa says:

    I’m just having my first sip of coffee

    Good morning OC I am just very cautious and since this guy his hispanic I am weary. My stepdad is Mexican and a wonderful kind man but he is alos a nondrinker and has no sense of jealousy. On the other hand the hispanic culture (the older culture and especially older men) sometimes hold onto that ownership mentallity, jealousy and such. My exboyfriend was Mexican and although he was highly educated and all he was contantly trying to change me, my hair, clothes, etc and kept saying “you’re my baby right, I won’t share with anyone” this is the same guy who just dumped me at the spare of the moment.

  533. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi all,
    I just nipped in to read up the blog.
    My heart goes out to all of you who have been misused.
    Such a shame. Especialy if you really fell for that man.
    Now for something completely different which still is related to SA.
    SBs outnumber SDs here on the site. Just read an interesting report from Ledbury Research as to net worth inividuals for indicators of the gblobal turndown. The writing was apparent on the wall when oyster prices tumbled in Maine – the wealthy not eating as much out – and with the news that more than 80 percent of multi millionaires having extra-marital affairs are cutting back on gifts and allowances for their lovers. Gucci etc doing badly in sales.
    This week-end I’ll buy a basket of oysters and relish them with a bottle of champagne. I like them sprinkled with a bit of cheese and then just 2 minutes under the grill.
    Hopefully it will bring an upturn in global economy.
    Now buy shares and I predict that the NY Stock Exchange will rise sharply on Monday.

  534. lisa says:

    I will see where it goes but if he seems nosy and overbearing in his emails I will delete him. I have came across many men on other dating sites that were like that and you could tell by the way they acted online and on the phone. If I a not in a committed relationship with a man that has the goal of a future together I dont’ feel I owe exclusiveness to someone, especially a married man.

  535. OCSugarBaby says:

    Good Morning Everyone! I have had my coffee and the office is just starting to wake up!

    Lisa Penelope: Go Lisa! Don’t read too much into the new contacts words. :)


  536. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    As always… listen to your gut instincts… if he’s not what you think you want… move on… don’t feel like you need to make something “work” just because it seems to be the only option at the moment….

  537. lisa says:

    I just got a new contact in my inbox. He lives in a city a couple hundred miles away and does travel to my city a few times a month. He is a little older than what i’m looking for but his profile is nice. Gotta see a picture first of course. One thing that bothers me is that he is married (which means of course he won’t be monogomous to me) but he is looking for someone who will be loyal to him and doesn’t want her to even have a boyfriend. This sounds a little controlling to me and although I may be reading it wrong, I was right about the one that lived to far away as that’s obviously not going to materialize. I don’t feel that I have to devote my life to a casual nsa relationship to someone who is married.

  538. VillaCypris *276489* says:


    CSB – just laugh at the probable image of that person sitting in a dank apartment in ripped boxer shorts, salivating over all the SB profiles and sending lewd messages to as many as he can… ahahahaha

  539. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Villa: I know what you mean. Now we know not to waste our time which can be spent blogging with my sugar family lol.
    Lisa: You are a psychic, I’m taking new photos as we speak.

  540. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Morning Villa ~ thank you for the sun :D. CSB ~ so glad we can see through them now. There was a time when I was ‘new’ that I would’ve actually taken the time to provide a well thought out response.

  541. lisa says:

    Well we know what ChocolateSnowBunny will being today! She will be uploading and sending hundreds of pics to that guy. Don’t forget the lingerie ones. lol

  542. lisa says:

    I think the gloom is passing here now, I see the sunshine but the parking lot is really flooded, it must have poured over night. The sd gloom still lingers though. Just staying home this morning, will meet by daughter when she changes buses to keep the perverts away from here and the go down to wash.

  543. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Good morning sugars (Nico, Lisa SuthrnExec and newbies.

    I got a message this morning and the SD asked what city I live in. I replied and told him. Here is his response.

    Subject: Ever come to (insert his city)…I’d probably marry u…u r gorgeous…lovely…can u be naughty

    Message: I don’t come to your city often enough to warrant a relationship but wish you were here in (insert his city)…do you have other pics?

    LOL some of these men are such a riot.

  544. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hi Lisa, Nico and SE! I’ll send you all some sunshine from the tundra!!! :)

  545. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Hmmm….Lisa and SE….seems to be an epidemic my side of FL is sorta gloomy too :(

  546. lisa says:

    It’s starting to stop here, looks like the sun is coming. Cool out though. Enjoy the rain

  547. SuthrnExec says:

    morning Lisa! Your rain is headed our way I think. Cloudy and gloomy here too.

  548. lisa says:

    Good morning everyone. Rainy day here. I was going to get up earlier but heard the rain so just stayed in be.
    No word from the sd I talked to the other night :( but of course I got another message from the pervert one that once asked me for explicit pics. He has contacted me about 4 times over the last month and I have seen him on the site for many months. But of course he lives in my city actually in the galleria area that is close. Why can’t the good ones live in my city instead of in some little town in the middle of nowhere?

    Gotta take out the trash now,maybe i’ll through the guy who just sent me that “if you like hours of kinky sex, I’ll be over” guy to the trash too. lol

  549. SuthrnExec says:

    {Stepping aside – lettin’ her roll!!}

  550. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Thank you….got some good sleep last night 😉

  551. SuthrnExec says:

    Great advice Nico.

  552. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    One more thing…..sorry, on a roll this morning. You’re welcome to sit back and let the e-mails come to you, if that’s your personality but, as with anything, it will take MUCH LONGER and you limit yourself by not being proactive.

    There’s a certain amount of anonymity on the internet. Allow yourself to be a bit more bold because you’re doing it from a keyboard. Put your personality on paper and go for broke :)

  553. SuthrnExec says:

    Welcome First Time Guy and other newbies!
    I can vouch for what Nico said – there is a lot of wisdom and experience among the board members here so don’t be afraid to throw out the questions.

  554. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    First Time Guy ~ welcome…male SB?

    Let me just say that you can trust those that post here on the blog, SB’s and SD’s alike. We are a family here and their input is just as invaluable…mostly because they provide a different perspective to your question(s).

    As for HOW to approach somebody in an e-mail. Similarly to how you might approach somebody in person. There’s something about them that attracted you to their profile. Perhaps it was as simple as their location or maybe their desire to travel to the beach. Comment on the one (or couple) of things in their profile that made you want to write them (and for clarification, it should have nothing to do with what they’re offering as an allowance).

    Keep it brief but personal. Somebody once mentioned here….once you hit ‘send’ don’t obsess about your OUTBOX and whether the e-mail was read or not. Hit send and let it be. IF it was meant to happen they will write back. Cast a wide net and check back in here for support because honestly, it can be trying of anybody’s patience :)


  555. SuthrnExec says:

    SBMapleLeaf – so sorry to hear about your experience. This underscores the importance of drawing your own distinct boundaries and not crossing them no matter what until your conditions are met – whether it be the SD proving himself in some way or whatever. If an SD really cares about you and is interested in developing a real SD/SB relationship, they will understand and not press you.

  556. Kirstie x says:

    Hey ftg x
    Thats a really good Q, because I’ve been wondering the same thing!x
    Also should I be the one to send off an email, or should I wait for the SD to contact me…. x

  557. LOL_A says:

    SBMapleLeafs, I feel for you… It happens to me as well…
    I don’t if this will confort you but remember, “What goes around, comes around………and around, and around”


  558. raine says:

    Hi, all. Hope everyone’s day is well thus far.

    Nico: I shared your frustration, but got so distracted by the horror stories that I just crashed. although discouraged by that point, I managed not to internalize anything; I’ve certainly learned a lot thus far. After rereading my comments, well…until my patience is fully restored (my 3yo makes it fluctuate) and I lose the win-big-or-go-home attitude, it’s best to step away.

    *resumes lurking*

  559. sweetandsassy says:

    I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for the informative and helpful comments.

  560. first time guy says:

    Hi everyone, I’m very new to this and need a bit of guidance. I realise it’s mostly ladies that are here and I trust you more than guys anyway.

    I don’t know how to approach SDs in the first email. Are there things I should state from the get go or do I let him initiate (because he is the “mature” one et al). There are a number of things I’d like to mention and I like knowing someone before anything happens, any advice? Thanks

  561. jasmine says:

    hi everyone,they finally cut my phone so i no longer able to blog,im on my sis’s computer,but i will be back though! just dont know when ……. hugs&
    kisses everyone i hope to talk to everyone soon!

    love jasmine

  562. SBMapleLeafs says:

    Hi everyone,

    I beleive it’s SD who needs to do first move.

    I have met a SD few days after register here, and did not read the blog unfortunatly. So I end up getting used. We got intimate and I have got nothing in return, only huge dissapoitment in people. I really liked this guy, he was really very cute, chemistry was there. And I felt uncomfortable to bring up any money questions, I felt myself like I am trading sex for money. So he got what he wanted and that was it, he did not even have guts to admit what he used me just to get a free sex out of me, he kept telling for a few months what he wants continue relationships, and wants to meet with me. But something always went wrong last minute prior meeting…. problem is I really liked this guy and waited for him all those two months. I feel dumb and used now.

  563. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi Nico and Lol,
    I suddenly realised that my dreamgirls did exactly as you suggest.
    At dinner they told me that they had a surprise for me.
    When we got back to the hotelroom they gave me a wonderful massage of my back and my legs.
    It was so relaxing that I almost fell asleep.
    But it also gave me great vigour.
    So there are many ways, to show goodwill and appreciation on that first meeting. Not only the SD can express his sympathy and affection, but the SB can do so as well.
    Nice topic you touch upon here !

  564. SuthrnExec says:

    Good morning everyone! I hope all of you are well.

    Nico and LOL_A – I think it’s a pretty neat idea – certainly he won’t be expecting it and it will likely be quite a surprise to him.

    I wanted to make a comment about the topic – “who gives first.”

    Frankly, if the chemistry is there from the start, the “who gives first” question may never be an issue. If the SD is genuinely interested in the SB and is REALLY concerned about her comfort every step of the way, he is not concerned about the issue of “who gives first.” If it’s all about her (the SB), then the “who gives first” question doesn’t come into his mind. All of this is predicated on what was said in the first sentence – CHEMISTRY. Depending on how good (or great) the chemistry is and how quickly it develops determines to what extent or degree the SD is concerned or not concerned about the “who gives first”.

    I understand that it might not always work this way, but I know it CAN work this way because I have experienced it. It isn’t easy because there has to be trust – but at the same time everyone, especially the SB, needs to exercise caution. So it’s a balancing act but, but when you meet that one-in-a-million (or one-in-a-300k :-) ) you know it and it is incredible!

  565. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    First of all….good morning my lovely Sugar Family.

    LOL ~ You touched on something and I think I am going to use your idea. Why NOT get the SD something on your first date? In my particular case I am meeting this gentleman after having spoken for a month over the phone and through e-mail. We have amazing phone and e-mail chemistry and cannot imagine it will be any different in person. So, why not put forth a gesture of good faith on my part? He is, afterall driving across the state to meet me and getting a hotel room to meet me.

    So, a nice box of chocolates or something more personal based on our conversations. Certainly nothing intimate….just personal.


    LOL ~ This isn’t a blanket statement though….I wouldn’t do this for all the potential SD’s I’ve met in the past but you just get a feeling about the good guys when they do come into your life. :) THANK YOU for the great idea!!

  566. LOL_A says:

    Hello everybody,

    The SD should do the first moves.
    Now I know better…. LOL Promised allowance first!!!
    I usually gave them a nice Swiss chocolate box on the first meeting, now NADA!!! LOL

  567. ZenSugar says:

    Who moves first? Sugardaddy dating and traditional dating are quit similar. A natural flow comes about when its a match. All the scheming in the world never changes that.

    We should move together and the SD slightly more than me. When I jump ahead nothing happens. Important to have hobbies (building a biz,studying,etc) to keep you busy meanwhile.


  568. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Good morning everyone in Sugarland,
    Over here it is again a bright sunshiny day.
    I even lay in the garden yesterday basking in the sun and fell asleep.
    Nice question “the first move”.
    Recently I had a look at the section “new members”, numerous of them.
    Impossible to have a look at them one by one and try and find somebody sympathetic. To be honest, I wrote one spontaneously complimenting her on the photo and the text of the profile, but it went wrong.
    A few who wrote to me were not aware what an arrangement is supposed to be. Anyway then I had the honour of being approached by my dream gteam. Also they did not know how to proceed, so I explained them and also to read the blog and find great advice here.
    I was born under the sign Taurus, which makes me a natural giver.
    “It is better to give than to receive” is my statement. And if you wish to become a happy person, you should start giving and sharing and then you will receive so much in return. Really true !
    So I bought a nice “I love you card” with roses for each of them filled with sugar. At an approriate moment I gave it to each of them with a kiss.
    It was when chemistry had been established.
    It is a sign of trust. I put responsibilty in their hands to honour a commitment. Yes, I know responsibility is difficult when young.
    If the other would do a houdini, I believe it would weigh more on their soul than mine. As for me it is just paper we call money. You know a good Davidof cigar even tastes well, if you light it with some banknotes.
    So I am a person who cauteously steps along holding her hand in this minefield called SA to protect my SB, that is why I move first, but I am also a kind kissable gentleman (my profile), so in other matters an Sb may lead, after all “ladies first” is also nice with a surprise kiss for me.

  569. SouthernGirl*302249* says:

    I just realized that I didn’t answer the question put forth originally. Oops!!

    I believe that a SD should make the first move…up to a point. After that, there should be a mutual progression towards a genuine sugar relationship that is natural, un-forced, and born of attraction/chemistry. If a SB would feel hurt/upset if she became sexually active with her potential SD and did not get spoiled in return, then she is certainly moving too quickly for her own comfort.

    Ideally, I would like to get to the point in a potential sugar relationship where I just want to rip some clothes off without worrying about finances!! Haha!! Just keep that goal in mind and I’m sure things will work out just fine.

  570. Joules*300035* says:

    Jeez! I finally just finished weeding through all 270+ of the pics I took from meeting my new clients this past Saturday. I got all-access passes so I could do a photo-shoot for them! It was friggin awesome! I managed to weed the pics down to 110 though. All that’s left (for another day) is to start sorting through the 30+ videos I took during their live performance!

  571. SouthernGirl says:

    Kacee– the same thing happened to me too!! I was absolutely SWAMPED with potential SD’s when I first joined, but I think that the majority of the men who contacted me immediately didn’t end up panning out.

    It does slow down…trust me! Try adding some of the profiles that you like the most to your “Favorites”…I’ve found that works quite well in getting a genuine sugar date!! I think making the first move, even if it is a rejection-free first move like adding someone to a “Favorites” list, boosts the confidence of certain gentlemen a lot!! And a happy, confident man is always the best kind to be around :-)

  572. Uberlicious says:

    and Nightmare, u r so right, if we SB’s are gonna get money, the transaction should b made up front as to have no misconceptions or default on anyone’s part. i mean c’mon, if the SB flakes after receiving the finances, then there should b a return on non-services rendered. :) dont u think that would b appropriate??

  573. Uberlicious says:

    i believe the SD should go first as to show a sign of good gesture and to ‘prove’ he is for real. We SB’s have plenty to lose by being decieved, whether it b our safety or our trust. :)

  574. Kacee says:

    So…I am brand new to this site (I set up my profile last night), and I already have 20 some messages in my inbox from SDs wanting to meet me. I am happy about it but also a bit shocked/skeptical…..has this been common for others (i.e. being swamped with very interested SDs). If so, how should I go about picking and choosing the best matches for myself? Sorry if these questions seem vague/broad in their nature I’m just quite overwhelmed and want to start of on the right foot so to speak! Thanks!

  575. SuthrnExec says:

    G’night folks!

  576. SuthrnExec says:

    Nico, it probably happened between OC and I in spite of me more than because of me! LOL As I recall, she showed interest in me and I didn’t realize it – you know, hit me over the head with a brick type thing. Then I emailed her and she replied (shock!) and, as they say, the rest is history… :-)

  577. lisa says:

    Goodnight OC

    Oil of olay cosmetics? I have seen those here in years. They used to sell them at target but not any more. I need a full coverage because I am very fair complected and have problems with too much pink in my face (thanks to my dad)

  578. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    ‘nite Nico and OC

  579. Nico says:

    …………Lisa I use Oil of Olay….has foundation in it….awesome stuff.

    Okay…………really going to bed 😉

  580. lisa says:

    Good night Nico

  581. lisa says:

    I have to get me a new bottle of liquid foundation. Anyone know of a good cheap brand I can get? I have been using chanel and shiseido stuff for the past year (thanks to the sds I met) but now I need something cheap, moisterizing, age defying, etc.

  582. Nico says:

    Congrats TO ~ that’s awesome!! I bet you would make a great SD too…from reading your posts earlier and your comments just now she would be a lucky girl.

    OC ~ love hearing how it works. Quite honestly you two were an inspiration to me (no, I really mean it). I was to the point where I was ready to give up too but then I saw it actually happens…right in front of my eyes.

    Heading to bed so *HUGS* to you all…..and Hello and good night Lisa and Joules too 😉

  583. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Good night, NC ~ (belated)

  584. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Good luck, TOExec! Hope it goes well!!

  585. TOExec says:

    By the way, I have my first SB meeting next week, I’m excited considering I just signed up last week on this site and it is my first ever site. Hopefully it works out.

  586. TOExec says:

    My opinion, the SD should act first, make the financial arrangement out of the way. Then if the Sb is comfortable to meet with him then so be it. I think the SB have way too much too loose if she doesn’t get what is promised.

  587. lisa says:

    Good evening Joules

  588. Joules*300035* says:

    hey everyone! just peeking in right quick to say hi!

    how’s everyone’s sweet sugar world going?

  589. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: My life is all about dates and numbers! I have good recall. Plus when it matters to me I have total recall! I am so happy to hear about your SD plans! WhooHoo! :)
    Yea, three months and counting with Suthrn. We actually met on the blog back in November. :)

  590. TOExec says:

    Hi all

  591. Nico says:


  592. Nico says:

    Wow ~ what an amazing memory. Yes, the 5th. Actually he’ll be in town on the 4th so we’re going to dinner and then spending time together the next day too :) I am very happy.

    It is so good to hear how well things have progress between you and SE….I remember coming on the blog just as you two had met…..it wasn’t that long ago but you two have truly inspired me 😀

    The house….well, I am moved in and because of the company restructuring I am sitting on savings instead of doing anymore remodeling now. It is definitely night and day from what it was though and very ‘homey’. Very happy with it and in the investment. I’ve already appreciated SIGNIFICANTLY so proud of the accomplishment 😀

    Thank you for asking :)

  593. lisa says:

    Good night NC Gent

  594. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: The move went well. Suthurn has been encouraging me along the way. It was the right thing to do, I have room to dance in my bathroom now (nice to know I could If I felt the need). LOL
    My sugar’y sweet sugar today asked me if I had AAA and purchased me a membership when I told him I did not have it. He emailed me and told me that he hopes I never have to use it but feels better knowing I have it if I ever need to use it. I tell you, he blows me away every day with the caring things he does. He is coming to visit soon, I can’t wait. I cant seem to get away from work, so he is coming here. I think an Angels game is on the agenda. :) How is the house coming? Isn’t you SD visit on the 5th?

  595. NC Gent says:

    Nite all — early morning — breakfast with a client!

  596. lisa says:

    I do to. I had friend that was killed by a drunk driver and my natural dad was an abusive alcoholic. I have no use for people who get drunk and harm others. He just sounds kinda flaky to me too, just coming up again out of nowhere. I have deleted him and evicted him from my potential sd lineup

  597. Nico says:

    Raine ~ that was not directed at your or anybody in particular. The was a frustration over the confusion of the two ~ it’s a topic of the thread and not something you posted.

    Raine ~ I think anything worth obtaining/achieving requires patience and study. You can learn a lot from this blog (I know I have) as well as having learned through personal experiences such as those I’ve not outwardly shared. So while I may sound frustrated, please do not internalize my comments in a negative and harsh way as that is not the message I intended to deliver.

  598. lisa says:

    Good night raine and please dont’ leave the blog

  599. NitemareSD says:

    Well, I still think you did the right thing.

  600. lisa says:

    Nitemare he cancelled on me last August at the last minute and said he had an accident. He popped up a few days ago wanting to take me to lunch when he’s intown. I asked him when he would be in town and then he acted like well ” I guess i could make a special trip to take you to lunch, I don’t travel to HOuston anymore”. after a few emails he brought up last august and I told him that he was the one that stood me up,not the other way around, he then said he had been driving under the influence. Of course that changes the tone for me, and I could care less if he got hurt, and i’m glad he didn’t hurt anyone

  601. raine says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if I was one of them, Nico, because I realize that my stress, stubborness and just plain ignorance are showing, jeopardizing my success even more. Since I consider this a job (right now, little or nothing will change that), I’d better leave now.

    With that said, I bid you all good night and good luck.

  602. lisa says:

    of the sds that I met
    one flew from another Texas city, booked himself a hotel and called me when he arrived in town. We had planned to meet for coffee, lunch, shopping and see where things went. He had suggested splitting our date in half whereas he would drop me home and go check into his hotel and if things were ok, we could meet for dinner. Well we didn’t meet for dinner, he made an excuse but at least he was a perfect, if not very shy, gentleman.

    Another was local and although the date was very akward because he lied about his weight we still had the date and he took me shopping for an event we were to attend that night, he dropped me home, said he’d call to pick me up, but called and cancelled.

    3rd was gentleman and didn’t persue intimacy till 3rd date and that was after he had proven himself and we had spent hours together first , he didn’t expect to just come over and get some action

  603. NitemareSD says:

    Lisa, you did the right thing with the drunk driver – both as a DD and SD.

  604. Nico says:

    LOL You’re right 😉 I do feel much better. So, how’s the new place working out?

  605. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: Thats ok, you get it off your chest. I cant tell you how much better I feel after telling my scam confession on the last topic. Seriously! I have held that inside for almost 6 months and it was eating away at me. I felt so foolish to be drawn into even going to dinner with someone like that. The power of letting it go…… Ahhhhhhh……

  606. NitemareSD says:

    The thing is, when I look back on my various SB early contacts, I never had to mention sex. If things went smoothly and we got along, we did it.

    Of course the SB usually brought up financial terms at some point. Or sometimes I even outlined them in an early or initial email. I experimented around with that.

    So when we discussed that, it had to do with things like how much we saw each other, or better, what we liked to do together and how we felt about each other.

  607. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Interesting topic…I think that real SD is a true gentlemen. Therefore, he understands a lady’s fear and seeks to ease them. He wants to make sure she feels comfortable. Whether it’s initially meeting in her hometown, allowing her to call from a blocked number or agreeing to coffee in a public cafe. I don’t see why upfront cash or shopping is any different. Any SD that wants to test drive before putting out is looking for an escort. A real SD will not lose sleep if he loses a few hundred bucks. Unfortunately, giving money still doesn’t prove you’re a true SD. I went on about four dates with a man that disappeared into thin air. Even though he gave me hundreds of dollars on each date, he still turned out to be a fake. When it came time to provide the monthly allowance, he went MIA. Some men are just on these sites to play games and escape their boredom. I’m much more diligent since this experience and wiser since finding this blog.

  608. lisa says:

    I used to ask certain questions and find out stuff when I was looking for a serious relationship. If the man had been married multiple times or talked harshly of his exwife, if he talked about being behind on his taxes, or left certain details out about himself till I met him (like having 3 small children) , etc I avoided even meeting those guys because I knew they didn’t have the same relationship goals. Like asking them where they expected to be in 5 years and they would say “buying a boat, building the business, etc but no mention of marriage or a serious relationship, I knew these guys were not looking for the same thing I was.

  609. Nico says:

    Thank you OC ~ was beginning to feel guilty about my rant. I know I was speaking to those that are already very clear on the difference but there have been some rather young and new SB’s on here….though not recently, that have frustrated me with their comments. I guess the topic of this thread was like a straw on my camel’s back.

  610. lisa says:

    As far as the sd sampling the good first I wish that worked with apartments. I could move into an apartment for free and ask to check it out first before committed to a lease and then say i wasn’t satisfied and pay nothing and move on to the next one.

  611. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nico: Good Evening! I have to say that you are right. If you go into any relationship expectation need to be discussed. With chemistry comes great communication. I can’t imagine one without the other!

  612. lisa says:

    Nitemare I scared him off when I told him I was glad he didn’t hurt anyone when he was driving drunk.

    Very sorry about what happened to you jj. I am getting discouraged myself.

  613. Nico says:

    LOL @ Lisa ~ love the toothbrush comment 😉

  614. NC Gent says:

    awww ty VIlla — that is an honor to be used in the same sentence with SouthernExec :)

  615. Nico says:

    Okay ~ going to voice my opinion on this topic. To a certain degree I am going to mirror Nitemare’s thoughts but to elaborate a bit further with my two cents.

    First and foremost I see way too much confusion between sex and money. As I mentioned in a response on a previous thread, never never never bring up the arrangement when there is a mention of sex. They are totally separate and should be kept that way.

    This is a mutually beneficial relationship ~ a RELATIONSHIP. Do we sit back in a traditional relationship and rely solely on the other person to make the moves? If you have chemistry with somebody (and you SHOULD) it should never come down to who made the first move.

    Address your expectations early on ~ be clear both parties understand and then spend time to actually get to know each other. Be a true mentor and a true ‘baby’ and genuine. The courting process will flow and be natural and, at this point the desire to fulfill the expectations previously discussed will flow naturally.

    *removing soap box and joining the crowd*

  616. NitemareSD says:

    We recently figured out the guy worth $50M is down to 49 after some nasty event in houston.

  617. OCSugarBaby says:

    JJ-I think you need to do your best not to think each pot SD is going to scam you. If that was the case I never would have given Suthrn a chance. It was different when you find a pot SD that brings up ZERO red flags. I just learned from my mis-steps as I like to call them. I am responsible for my own actions.
    Completely true, a true SD gentleman will never ask for a pictorial or ask to test or sample the goods first. Ive said this before, just because they say they are an SD or SB does not mean they are a respectful one.
    Before Suthrn I did meet three very sweet SD’s from the site. Just did not have chemistry with them. But they were all real and very nice men. No flags, just no chemistry.

  618. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    JJ ~ we are all here to help and to support one another

  619. jj says:

    Raine, I am considering deleting my profile just because the bad experiences have outweighed the good unfortunately. With the economic meltdown and the recent influx of new SB’s (thanks Tyra and Dr. Phil!) I feel like there are 1000 SB’s to ever SD. If I get any offers at all lately they have been half of what I was getting before or nothing at all. The last SD I went out with offered me a night in his hot tub and a bottle of wine, LOL! He claimed to be worth 50million!

    Ugh… so frustrating.

    Just a side note, I want to say how proud I am to be amongst this pleasant group of girls and guys. You are all so intelligent and caring in your responses. It is hard to find a group like this elsewhere. Thank you.

  620. lisa says:

    Often times men compare trying a woman out first to buying a car, like you wouldn’t buy a car without first test driving it” well I would think a relationship would be more personal, kind of like buying a toothbrush. I bet not many people try out a toothbrush before buying it, lol

  621. lisa says:

    The 3 potential sds I met (months and months ago) were all gentlemen. The first one met me for coffee, followed by a nice date and lunch the next day, and part of my allowance 2 days later. I knew he was legit before we became intimate

    the other 2 met me for lunch and shopping and brought me home with plans to pick me up later that evening for dinner (one of them) and the other dinner and a show but both bailed but both showed (it was there idea to take me shopping) that they were willing to give and didn’t ask for anything but conversation .

  622. jj says:

    NC Gent– No true SD’s would ever ask to “test the waters” first or ask for a slew of extra pictures I’ve found. The legit ones will want to meet up soon after a few emails and phone calls. I prefer to meet first for a platonic meet and greet and then discuss the specifics after we’ve talked a little.

  623. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sorry JJ, that totally sucks, hope you find a great SD

  624. raine says:

    Oh, jj…I’m sorry about that. If it’s of any consolation, I don’t trust any man here…and I haven’t made one contact! Also, nobody gets photos, period.

    Are you trying this again or have you just closed shop, which may be what I’ll end up doing?

  625. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    I know two… NC and Suthrn!!!!!! :)

  626. lisa says:

    the key is to know who are the true sds?

  627. NC Gent says:

    so sorry JJ — I don’t think many true SDs expect to get a free test ride!

  628. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    So sorry to hear that, jj….

  629. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol ahhh he’s 27 tall blue eyes and dark hair yummy!

  630. jj says:

    The SD should be the first to give because if a SB gives it up for nothing in return it will have devastating emotional results. If a guy losses some cash it may anger him for a few days, but it won’t feel like being rapped.

    As aforementioned in my last post, I was taken advantage of when I believed a SD’s promise to wire me money for school. I was left feeling used and extremely depressed for weeks afterward. If I had known that this is how I would feel, I would have never taken any chances.

    Ladies, do not trust every man on this site there are some serious con artists out there. Don’t send discriminating pictures or endless emails. Do not spend countless hours with a pot or let him “get to know you” before you get what you are here for. Put yourself first always!

  631. raine says:

    TO going once, going twice…I’d take it, but my pics are still MIA (dang it all to harold’s!)…

  632. lisa says:

    chicago chicago chicago I spit in the face of censorship chicago

  633. lisa says:

    forget that , nothing I want to see. I wanted to see confessions of a shopaholic again but it ends tomorrow and I have to meet my daughter at the time of the matinee. Nothing showing that interests me friday

  634. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ok who is in TO there is this cute one i need to mail you his #

  635. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol ok i never remember who is who… lol
    i get confused!

  636. raine says:

    No, BG, I’m in chi.cago (I’m not getting pulled over) actually.

  637. lisa says:

    I want to hear from that sd that I talked to last night, at least ask him some questions, see what he’s looking for. He has a very nice voice.

    I’m thinking I might go to the earlybird matinee friday at the mall movie theatre. it’s only 5 dollars so at least i’d get out of the house. I wish I could have used this time off more constructively.

  638. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    You’re sending out positive energy Lisa… never know whom you will attract!!! 😉

  639. lisa says:

    I never go near craigslist. someone was suggesting I look on there for a free photographer.

    Yes OC I’m sending signals out to draw everyone in to the blog, now If I could do that with a sd. lol

    so my days off tomorrow and friday are planned as follows:
    tomorrow: walk to laundry, meet daughter and wait till her connected bus comes
    friday: sit home

  640. raine says:

    Thank you for the update, Villa. If you all will excuse me, I’m gonna hang this up now.

  641. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    When I lived in Monte Carlo, the russian mafia was running a scam, wherein they used gorgeous russian women to lure married men back to a gorgeous apartment… and when they were lying in bed after (and sometimes before) availing themselves of the women, men with AK-47s would burst into the room and take them for all they had … cash, watch, jewelry… and most men never reported this, so as to not alert their wives.

    SBs are not the only ones who can be scammed. Everyone needs to be careful whom they trust!

  642. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine your in TO right?

  643. NC Gent says:

    Hi all — hope you are having a great evening!

    Stephan — I got your call, but I forgot your number on my desk. I was only in my office today for a short time. If you email me your number, I will give you a call tomorrow afternoon.

  644. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    hey Lisa ~ since you mentioned craigslist awhile back, was going to tell you that the “craigslist murderer” was convicted today of first degree, pre-meditated murder, and received a life sentence with no possibility of parole…. this for placing an ad for a ‘babysitter’ on craigslist, and when the young woman showed up at his house, thinking she was there to watch a five year old, he shot her in the back…

    SO… fake ads on craigslists, fake ads on SA, or anywhere… as someone mentioned previously, one’s SAFETY is priceless, and certainly not worth sacrificing for the “chance” of meeting someone who sounds like a dream date , SD or SB….

    be watchful!

  645. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Eh raine yeah eh i know eh! lol

  646. raine says:

    Yes, of course, BG. I’m trying to ensure very little (or better yet, nothing) goes awry on my end…then again, he may be just as nervous. Eh.

  647. lisa says:

    Moving together would be fine, lol we could make out at the bank, lol

    No really I have seen more sds that want to talk sex and intimacy right off without talking about financial part. The guy I talked to last night mentioned there were some nice hotels in this town he wanted to meet in, etc but no mention of the shopping or allowance. I would think that if he was planning on getting a hotel, he wan’t planning on staying alone and it wouldn’t be necessary for me to stay the night being that it is a 3 hour drive to and from so that’s 6 hours if transportation was possible and lets say 4 or 5 hours together that equals 10 or 11 hours, I could go and be back the same day. If he was just thinking of getting a hotel for himself to avoid the long drive back the same day, it wouldn’t be necessary to bring that up. He’d just get me on my way back home and he’ go stay at his hotel

  648. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    I agree with OC ~ well said Nitemare ~ especially the part about not doing anything which you may regret.

  649. Unsure says:

    I believe it is always important for the SD to make the arrangement best suitable to both of your busy schedules. Otherwise it won’t work.

    Second of all Is it wrong to be attracted to your SD and be intimate on the 2nd date?

  650. OCSugarBaby says:

    NitemareSD: You are funny and right! Move together, well said! :)

  651. raine says:

    The SD wouldn’t even be allowed to say the word sex in my presence! That reminds me: I have a lot of faves to eliminate, at least the ones making veiled references to same…

  652. NitemareSD says:

    It always seems to come down to the sex vs money question here.

    Occassionally we get the ‘he didn’t send me the porsche he promised’ while we were talking on the phone so I feel like I wasted my cell minutes and was used complaint.

    But the big one is sex and money.

    We get the ‘I slept with him even though he made me want to puke my guts out because I believed when he said he’d head right over to the ATM afterwards’ on a regular basis.

    Look sisters, I say this again after several months of comparative silence:

    Move together. Don’t let the benefits get out of line on either side, especially in the early part of getting to know the person.

    Never provide anything that would leave you regreting if the other cut things off.

    And for goodness sake if you are going to have sex for money with someone that disgusts you, make sure he puts the money on the dresser and you count it before things get started.

  653. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine ~ i think we both have to talk communication is the key!

  654. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Roxy~ i totally agree, the first date should be a meeting not a sex thing
    i had one ask me what i would do on the first meeting???? NOTHING i told him

  655. raine says:

    I kinda thought the SD got things rolling by default. *shrug* carry on…

  656. Roxy says:

    I haven’t had luck with any SD’s. They are confusing sex with money. Not wanting to wine and dine a young lady. I hope for luck in my future.

  657. Roxy says:

    I believe the SD’s should go first. They should try and make the first move try put together the arrangment together for you and the SB that they are connecting with. Be a gentleman. Remember this is about wining and dining to a lady. Also for the SB’s trying to make you happy. Don’t expect a whole lot the first date. Take the time to get know the SB first. See if you would even want to even meet the second time. I believe this is important. So it’s not confused with sex and money. I know you SD’s want to be pleased. Please do this in gentleman like matter also SB’s.

  658. lisa says:

    I have made contact and been contacted, not much sucess either way. However I did have a sd that I contacted actually meet me two days later and take me shopping. He is another one that had a car accident. Gee I seem to generate car accidents.

  659. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Well as for the mail, i mail all the SDs i think i might click with. If i get mail back i answer. i don’t wait, i don’t play games either,
    as for the arrangement part i can’t say, i haven’t had one yet, i think the man should show interest in spoiling first, baby sugar should be given when it feels right for both, not like an escort service

  660. lisa says:

    ok I’m arrived at the new topic

    I believe the sd should go first
    He is supposed to be the leader in this type of relationship anyway, the one with power and money and charm. He has less to lose because he’s loaded anyway whereas a woman has much to lose if she gets deceived. I think this could actually cause a sincer sb that ends up getting used by fake sds to form a different opinion of men and it might affect her relationships in the future. For example she may put off getting inimate with a serious boyfriend for fear of being used and dumped like she experienced with sds.