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Read the Signs: He’s into you


When it comes to making a Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby arrangement, it’s always important to pay close attention to those subtle innuendos. Some sugars place carefully worded hints in their profile or messages; allowing a potential to ignore the suggestion completely without flat-out rejecting them, or agreeing to the request while maintaining their poise by ‘playing along’.

It’s about playing the game without playing games. After all, time wasters aren’t welcome in Sugarland.

Do you prefer sugar that’s more subtle, or direct?

Have you had any sugar success lately?

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285 Responses to “Read the Signs: He’s into you”

  1. Sugarbaby F says:

    Hey Lily!
    Just wanted to update you and all the other sugar babes. It was purely by accident that I found out that when this poser was texting me last Sunday it was a 3 way call!!! totally unknown to me at that time. I found a very weird # in my call history and it timed to the exact time he was texting me!!!! I sent him a txt as soon as I realized this asking just who in the h*ll was the third party and haven’t heard from him since!!! Unbelievable! lol When I was doing a bit of browsing tonight and came upon his profile I just sneered and then laughed. What a loser!!! All Sugar Babies beware! any guy that immediately sends you incredibly intimate pix of himself RUN! as fast as you can. That’s my first experience w/a SD. Looks like I might have a little luck w/another one tho so everyone keep yr fingers crossed for me ok? He’s sent me a couple emails so far and seems pretty interested. Thx!

  2. HOTT says:

    I am a sugar baby and I have a question for both SB and SD. How much is the correct amount to ask for during a travel trip? we will be gone for 3 days to a neighboring state. I usually receive a gift of 3-4k each month (we meet 4x a month) and don’t want to ask for too much or too little! Help!

  3. Sugarbaby F says:

    Hi Lily!
    Thnx a million for your advice. The more of it I read the more sense it makes to me. I’m thinking now I won’t even tell him that our first meeting should be g-rated, etc. Think I will just dump him period. Thanks so much again, you really helped me out!

  4. Katie says:


    :( have to say good bye to my car next week. Life sucks!

  5. I didn’t mean for any SBs to bellow and shout their demands.

    I was referring to one’s mindset. The behavior should always be alluring, even when (especially when?) you’re ‘sticking to your guns’ and looking after yourself to the best of your abilities.

    It’s the delicate sugary balancing act—putting yourself out there in order to be noticed despite the voluminous competition, and opening yourself up to new people….. whilst attempting to avoid getting duped, manipulated, or used for fleeting entertainment value.

  6. I’m happy to sort you out, & simply:

    if he is for real, he will meet you for coffee or a drink, or even a meal, despite you letting him know in advance that a first meeting with you will only consist of G-rated pleasantries and introductions with you in public spaces where you feel comfortable getting to know him for the first time.

    Whatever ambiguity or outright suggestive things you’ve said before needs to be cleared up NOW, and clue him into the game plan.

    Then watch him poof.

    Genuine SDs w/ honorable intentions towards finding a true & meaningful/lasting arrangement w/ a special lady will NOT send pics of their junk. They have their pick on SA, given the disparity in #s of women seeking an arrangement vs. men, and they are seeking quality over quantity, and do not find that sending lewd pics or pressuring women into quickie hook-ups is the type of behavior that leads them towards landing an ongoing, spicy arrangement with a quality, “whole package” dreamgirl.

    Be the dreamgirl SB, starting w/ what kind of treatment you demand from men. Have classy protocol & stick to it. Quality SDs who would and could actually make a sugary, romantic impact in your life WILL jump through those hoops.

    Posers on this site (males) are pushy, gross vultures but at least they are typically very easy to spot. This one you’ve run across first isn’t even trying very hard to scam you. You’re lucky, this one won’t even waste much of your time.


    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Gerald I believe YOU, and I do NOT find you to be
      antisocial or manipultive. Just as some of the other
      normal SD’s that blog find… the hurt and confusion from
      caring about a sugar and allowing your desire to help them gets in the
      way perhaps of helping vs hurting them or them
      hurting you. Does that make sense? Some
      women are on here for one thing and one thing
      only. Money. Which is a shame really but just
      as that happens some men are here for just
      Please stay and blog, your honesty is exactly
      what I prefer to read from a blog SD 😉

      • OCSugarBaby says:

        Hi Lisa! It is a turn off to read about how much money
        someone spent. But just as we vent, they need to as well.
        One very wise SD told me and I think he posted it on the blog
        somewhere in the dusty archives.
        “A true SD gentleman will find great excitement in providing for
        someone. The amount is not important/ Be it $500 or $5k
        it is not the money it is helping them acheive a goal”

        Lily good morning! Demanding to be treated like a
        Lady is heard much clearer if you say it in a very
        soft spoken whisper. The SD will have to pay closer
        attention to your lips and the warmth of your words.

      • OCSugarBaby says:

        Hi AM … GFI…ahhh girfriend intervention? lol

  7. Sugarbaby F says:

    Hello all! am completely new to this site and need advice quick! Please please help me out! Txtd nearly all day today w/a possible sd, he sent shall I say incredibly intimate pix of himself and is thinking we will be hooking up this coming Thurs. At first I got a kick out of it but now am scared sh*tless, didn’t really expect to “put out” so soon. I mean I’ve not even met the guy yet. Talk about coming on subtle or strong! Plus there’s no mention of what I’m to be getting out of our arrangement. How do I handle this situation, am in over my head already. Any suggestions I would appreciate very very much. Thx!

  8. PrettySweet says:

    Hey sugs!! I was wondering if someone could tell me the difference between the orange and light blue profiles? I’m thinking the orange ones mean the guys paid more than the guys paid for the blue? Anyway can you trust a “blue” profile because I tend to overlook them but I’m probably prejudging. Anyhow I was just wondering. Btw…is anyone going to the meet on Tuesday? I’m thinking I may go after class. Hope all is well and have a great weekend ya’ll!:)

  9. Anna Molly says:

    Hi Stormcat!! Good to see you this evening!!

    Yes Gerald, don’t give up! I know for a fact that all of the ladies here are lovely, smart and a pleasure to know. I hope you stick around and contribute to our little community 😀

  10. Gerald says:

    Thanx for the responses – I’ll try again…this time with lots more rules 😉

  11. Stormcat says:

    Hi everyone,
    Long Hard Day! Physically Hard
    Then I return here and all the lovely SB are in such a state of meloncholy. Wow, did you miss me that much?

    OK -lol- Not

    Well, Here is my quotable wisdom:
    “The line separating success from failure is so very thin that often all that is takes at the point of giving up it a single extra effort to realize success!”

    Gerald – reall a bummer of an arrangement. Sorry to hear but they are not all like that. You have to realize that you can and even need to say no. Especially at the beginning before you have enough history to trust each other. And $30K in 2 weeks is definately over the top if the arrangement was for $10K/month. Here is what you do from now on. If you make an arrangement and your SB asks for some extre because she is in trouble, etc. Tell her that you’ll think about it and then if you feel inclined to help after 3 days have passed, take care of the trouble directly. If she won’t let you handle it directly then it’s a sham.

  12. VillaCypris says:

    off to bed. nite all!

  13. VillaCypris says:

    just two months…. she’s working for a med device company HQ’d in MN, but operating only in europe… so her territory is the whole of italy south of firenze. yeah, i’m excited she’s coming home :)

  14. Anna Molly says:

    That is so wonderful VC!!! How long has it been since you’ve seen your sister?

  15. VillaCypris says:

    Nothing much… still recovering from my high fever last week… just chilling at home… sister is coming home from italy tomorrow night, so we are all excited about that… will be spending lots of time with the family this next week! :)

  16. Anna Molly says:

    Hi VC!! What are you up to this lovely evening? I am folding laundry and then I have some emails to answer before I get my beauty sleep 😀

  17. VillaCypris says:

    Good evening AM! :)

  18. Anna Molly says:

    Hi Gerald,
    I’m sorry to hear about your experience! I wish I could offer you some words of wisdom, but I don’t feel that I have been in this sugar world long enough.

    I have had an arrangement before, but we began with a monthly allowance right away and that is the way it stayed. Of course, every situation is different and since I don’t know what her finacial situation really was I can’t give an opinion as to whether you were being taken advantage of or not.

    I wish you all the best!

  19. VillaCypris says:

    Gerald – one could argue that you just proved you are “certifiable”… 😉

    but, if you have the means, and have/had the desire to help her out in that manner, than kudos to you.

    “normal” is elusive in its’ definition… but I would think $30,000 in two weeks falls outside the general definition of ‘normal’….

  20. Gerald says:

    Hey there! I’m a newbie to SA and have tried this out with a SB that didn’t work out. Absolutely everytime we met she wanted 5 to 10K each time we met…always with some kind of new crisis that forced immediate $ need. She alluded to some unknown point in time when the regular monthly amount ($5K) will be all she needs, but until she gets on her feet from her current financial train wreck, the blank check plan was active. I quit after $30K in 2 weeks with request pending for more ($10K) instantly :(

    Is that normal or did I choose poorly? What is normal? Is there typically a ‘help get SB on her feet financially’ period before normal monthly gifts begin? Or did I just prove that I’m certifiable? lol

  21. TexasSugah says:

    Thanks OC….

    I really am a counselor. My first masters is in it. I figure I had a verbally abusive marriage, who’da thunk it right? So now I think… I don’t have to put up with anything. I stay positive for myself, family and others.

    I’m slightly thick but I have a great personality and I’m educated. Someone will love that. And that’s kinda what’s going on.

    I haven’t found a sugardaddy that I really like. Mostly regular relationship guys. So… I’ve upped the status on the guys I look at for that. Takes longer but hey… It’ll pay off. In more ways than one.

    I’m going to have a great summer. I’m sure we all will.

    In fact, I just had a liquid lift. I’m 36… Gotta keep looking 31 for a little while. LoL. Hey black don’t crack but dam mit it don’t always stay smooth!!

  22. Anything by Malcolm Gladwell!! Great writer!

    I think Lisa is not in the mood for advice, just venting. She’s allowed to vent here, so she is getting what she needs.

  23. Lisa says:

    Hi JSB, I can’t afford a date for myself. I’m already taking my parents to coffee and lunch everyweek and I struggle to do that. And although I live in a nice area, I still don’t think i’d venture out on foot alone after dark. And since my family lives in the same complex, they would expect me to take them out too.
    I don’t have the patience to read anything, I never even read the magazines I get. I spend most of my time alone so going out by myself isn’t going to help much.

  24. JSB says:

    Lisa why don’t you go out and have a date with yourself?

    Sometimes when things get crazy for me I find going outside and getting some sunshine helps…. Or read a great book… I am a huge fan of reading. I heart the author Sophia Kinsella, another great book that might inspire you is called Tuesdays With Morrie by Mitch Alboom …such a great easy read and it’s a true story.

    I think a date night for yourself might be fun.

    Speaking of books anyone read anything exciting that they would recommend? Has anyone read the SA book?

  25. Lisa says:

    Thanks OC. It was just that for several months (almost an entire year with 3 different sds) I was so busy shopping, building some savings, traveling, eating well, moving to a better place, getting some nice things, dining at nice restraurants, etc that the slump i’m in now is kind of a downer. I live near all the nice restraurants, the mall, so much to do over here but i’m broke. I broke off with my longtime lover when I moved over here and also with my toxic friend who is in the process of trying to sue the doctor my daugher works for (she came in and a test wwas scheduled, she thought is was going to be free and then for some reason she backed out and got a bill anyway. She is mad now because she though a 700 test that her insurance doesn’t cover was supposed to be free like an office visit. I had to break ties with her because she kept wanted my daughter to get involved. My daughter has a good job there and makes 12.50 an hour and its’ right down the street. She’s not about to risk her job for my stupid friend’s crazy idea. I need a new sd so I can get out of the house and have some fun.

  26. TexasSugah says:

    I mean I’m divorced with a disabled child.

  27. Lisa says:

    Hi TexasSugah

    I’m always upbeat and positive when I talk to potentials but I don’t get very many to even talk to. The ones that i’ve had most recently didn’t seem to be very motivated. In my experience with sds, the ones I have met have been upfront and talked about an arrangement before meeting. The pots I was talking to would take days to answer and would give one and two word answers and kept talking about how busy they were. One asked me about my last arrangement. I told him we went out for nice dinners weekly and enjoyed some intimate time afterwards. He thought that sounded fine but when I mentioned that we occasionally went shopping and that he gave me this amount of allowance, well the pot said “oh I see, I didn’t read that far down” and poofed. I later realized that these pots had been on the site forever and I guess just got new memberships since they had newer numbers but i remember seeing their pics and profiles a long while ago.

    I need some response before I can worry about being positive. I can do that but it takes response first.

  28. LadyIntim says:

    Hello, EVERYBODY!!! I AM BAK! LOL! Holly macoroni! This past week has been absoloutely crazy, fun, and very productive! Lot’s of sugar and sugar fun…I plan on taking the entire next week off. I deserve it. Just dropped off my main SD #2 at the airport and now for the next week its all about ME-Yay!

    PAK -by saying that I like my SDs to have more intense personalities I mean that I need lots of fun, excitiement, and substance. I don’t care how much money an SD has but if he is standard, boring, and unoriginal, we can’t be friends! In all reality my main motivation factor behind SA adventures is gaining amazing relationships and having as much fun as possible. In my arrangements it’s not up to me to dictate how much $ and fun I should get…It’s up to my SDs to decide how much will keep my interest.

    Lily!- I’m not a player, I just crush a lot! :) Sorry to hear about your cashless SD with a full-time girlfriend. What a jerkus. NEXT!

    Hi, Lisa, Hi, Everyone. The weather in AZ is absolutely magical. Everyone should visit.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa has accomplished a great deal in the past two years! However losing a SD
      is a great feeling of loss. We all grieve a bit. Letting it out and having a
      safe place to share your feelings with sugar friends who have felt that loss is
      a great feeling of healing and relief.
      TexasSugah you have my vote for Blog counselor! You are always so upbeat.
      I love that about you.

  29. TexasSugah says:

    Lisa- I hope you don’t take this the wrong way. I’m a counselor by trade. As I read your posts I notice that you are becoming more and more down or depressed about situations. I completely understand being divorced with a disabled child. The sugar thing isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. I agree witg ebony, it’s difficult for ab AA woman. I’ve had zero luck on SA and only use the blog.

    You need to try to focus on what you want to accomplish even though it’s not here. Try to be positive. Especially when talking with SDs. Men seem so conscious about women with drama. I know it’s hard. But fake it til you make it.

    It’ll get better.

  30. Lisa says:

    This apartment complex is 40 years old but well maintained. It has always had a large amount of elderly residents living here because it’s next door to the second largest medical center in Houston. I wonder if anyone has died in my apartment. The person who lived in this apartment before me was in her 50’s and had a name that sounded like a porn star, lol

  31. Lisa says:

    uh oh are we going to turn on the news and find out about the bodies in your closets?
    I agree that marriage is a serious thing. The think that gets me is how quickly people are to become unwed mothers but slow to marry. Having a child is a bigger commitment than marriage.

  32. Lisa says:

    Today’s marriages don’t last. My husband left me a month before our daughter was born. I dreamed of getting remarried for many years but after doing some research and learning that today’s man has not much to offer, insists on going dutch on dates, wants to be more like roomates in a marriage than a provider, I have lost interest in finding someone to spend my life with.
    When I come home from work, open my door, i’m in my world, I don’t have to cook for anyone, don’t have to do anyone’s laundry and don’t have to pick up after children. In today’s world, the woman still do all the cooking and cleaning even though they work full time, not too appealing to me.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa I agree, marriage is not to be taken lightly. Why do you think
      I am taking my time. Plus I enjoy my ghosts in my closet. They have
      kept me company for many years! Kidding…
      Well, sort of…

  33. My life is an abundance of wonder.

    I want even more. I want the most amazing sugar to be my most amazing friend and the most amazing lover and my 1 & only.

    I wonder if he exists.

    If I find him, I hope he sees what the next step is, & puts a ring on it. Fleeting relationships are not my style.

  34. Lisa says:

    Everything is life is temporary except for the things that suck. With each poofer, my trust in the human race declines.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa I understand everything you have been through.
      Money does rock! lol Who am I kidding, but still
      honestly it is a balance.

  35. Anna Molly says:

    I wish things would have lasted longer than they did, but, I’m glad I was able to get to know him and spend time with him. He will always be a very special person in my life :)

  36. Lisa says:

    I valued the time with my sd too but it was so short lived that I didn’t get a chance to really bond with him. So many future plans made by him were left unfulfilled.

  37. Anna Molly says:

    Money isn’t the most important thing to me though….I value the companionship and laughter that my SD gave me more than anything :)

  38. Lisa says:

    Money is the only thing you can love. People will let you down, love turns to hate, the man who is crazy about you one day will ignore you the next. Money can buy things that will last a while where as emotions and feelings are just temporary.

  39. Anna Molly says:

    Money is nice and my previous SD helped so much. I will always be greatfull and thankfull that I met such a caring and generous man. He was truly AMAZING and I will miss him dearly.

  40. Lisa says:

    I see I should make my exit now as the blog tone has changed. As far as jogging in concerned, Houston heat and humidity makes jogging dangerous. It’s already in the 80’s here and it will be over a hundred within a couple months. Not jogging weather. I need a nice workout in a cool airconditioned place where I can burn some calories. i’m 109 lbs and need to get down to under 100

  41. Lisa says:

    his pic is of him in formal attire with his hair back. When I met him 2 years ago I didn’t expect him to be in formal attire but baggy cargo shorts and a huge shirt (kinda like what the crocodile hunter wore only in size extra extra extra large) and messy hair wasn’t what I expected either. Funny thing is he rejected me. After taking me to buy a dress for a formal event we were to attend that evening, he dropped me off at my apartment, let me climb over the back seat to get my packages while he just sat there and then called me within minutes as I was trying on my dress for the evening to tell me he’d been in an accident. He left the mesage on my ans machine and kept talking to the machine even though I answered the phone. Anyway I was thinking about that as i saw his profile.

  42. Sometimes people are unhappy or upset for other reasons, and they feel they are justified to take it out on others.

    Sometimes people make excuses for why they aren’t improving their lives.

    Jogging works like a mo’fo’

  43. Lisa says:

    Walking doesn’t help me and oddly all the heavy lifting I do at work doesn’t seem to work either, just makes my back hurt. There is a nice exercise club across the street but it’s expensive. Some good looking people of all ages going in and out. My mom and I go to the starbucks that is next door to it.

    Funny I was viewing a sd profile of a guy I met almost 2 years ago. Same profile, same pic. In the profile pic, he looks classy, sophisticated, etc. When I met him he was obese, dressed like a slob and his hair was mess. Wasn’t very friendly either.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      I had to provide total and I mean total style (hair and clothes) updating to my sugar.
      He loved it! He wasn’t the mess he thinks he was. He was sweet and handsome. Just
      needed a little wardrobe consulting and updating. Now he loves to shop for clothes!

      Lisa he really should put current pictures, wonder why he looked so good then let himself
      go? Friendly would always be a deal breaker! How can someone not be friendly?

  44. Lisa says:

    I’m getting lots of views to my profile (getting none of SA though :( ) but no messages. 150 viewers, 3 messages in 3 weeks isn’t good. All 3 potentials poofed when they found out what an sd is.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      I am far too frugal to get a gym membership. Walking or dvd work outs are always within my budget.
      150 views is really good! Some people don’t even get messages. You deserve a good one! He just
      needs to find you :)

  45. Lisa says:

    money would bring a full fridge (mine’s empty :( and i’m back to eating junk food, thus gained back the 5 lbs. , money would pay for a gym membership

    being broke never brought happiness either

  46. JSB says:

    Haha re: quote Lisa

    OC I like it!

    My quote du jour is “what lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.”
    – Walt Emerson

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Ok, I flipped ahead a few day on my teachings pad…
      “If you have “needing money” in your vibration,
      then you will keep attracting needing money. You have to find
      a way of being happy NOW, feeling good NOW, and being in
      joy NOW, without the money, because those great feelings
      are how you will feel with the money.”
      Money doesn’t bring happiness – but happiness brings money~

      I guess you could substitute the money wording for SD wording and
      it would also be a good thought. Be happy now and that will attract the
      happy SD to you? It is worth a try, but what do I know! 3>

  47. Anna Molly says:

    I miss him….sigh

  48. Anna Molly says:

    I know…me too. I would have been with my SD right now :(

  49. Lisa says:

    I miss my friday lunch meetings with my last sd.

  50. Lisa says:

    An additional quote for the day

    “walk into the bedroom and get back into bed”

  51. Anna Molly says:

    I’m sorry Lisa…I know exactly how you feel. We can all feel that way sometimes…

  52. Lisa says:

    I’m in a rut, the weather is gloomy and dark, blahhh

    i’m having a low sugar incident

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      “Quote for the day”

      Think good thoughts
      Speak good words
      Take good actions

      Three steps that will bring more to you than you can ever imagine…
      That is what is on my desktop daily teachings tear off pad… Gotta love the Secret!

  53. Anna Molly says:

    I’m unproductive and half drunk…..lol (jk)

  54. JSB says:

    Is it just me or does anyone else feel unproductive today?
    I think it’s way too nice out and I am way too excited for the weekend!!

    Anyone have a good quote?

  55. Anna Molly says:

    Hi Stormcat!!! Hi everyone!!!!

  56. Lisa says:

    I will be glad to see sat and sun pass quickly so I will be off again on monday. Soooo gloomy here today

  57. Anna Molly says:

    I have started the weekend celebrations early…. 😀

  58. JSB says:

    Morning all.

    SincereSD – totally could have used a colada yesterday!
    I just sent ya a msg

    yay for Friday!!!!

  59. MindyNYC says:

    Good Morning All!

  60. Midwest says:

    Off to meet some great sugars! Have a great weekend all!

  61. Lisa says:

    Good morning everyone
    Still in bed, need to get up but it’s a gloomy day here and I have nothing fun to do

  62. Midwest says:

    Good morning!

    IAM4U – I agree with emy that you should be honest. If he’s new to this and looking for a more serious relationship, there could be middle ground. Do you like him? If so, see if you can manage a SSA arrangement where you give in to the connection, but realize there are no expectations of “ever after”. It’s a fine line and he seems to realize this when he asked about falling in love with your sd. It can and does happen, but what happens after that is entirely up to the couple. Meanwhile, to approach the allowance issue: outline the kind of allowance you need, some goals that you are trying to achieve and the financial gap between those where he can help. Let him decide if it makes sense. If he sees you are genuine in your needs and not looking for the latest LV bag, he might dig a little deeper. Since he’s new, he really does need some guidance. You could always refer him to the blog…thats what I did and it was extremely helpful. The archives are a great source of info and will help him get a better grasp of the concept. Specifically, have him look for comments by SSSD, SincereSD, NC Gent, NY Gent, et al so he can get the SD’s point of view. It may require a little effort on his part, but it looks like he is willing to learn.

    sb-emy – Hi! Glad to see you back! Congrats on your new SD!!! I’m back on the search and it does requires tons of patience!

    Youngebony – There are several AA women here and a few on the blog. I know of one in particular from the blog who has had an sd for about 4 months now. There are plenty of men on the site interested in beautify ebony women, but you may have to reach out a bit yourself. Don’t be afraid to send a classy, flirty message to men who catch your eye. Even if they don’t specify their ethnicity interests in their profile…you never know. It would be nice to be able to search by men’s preferences :-) Hang in there and be patient. Finding a real SD takes a while, but it is completely worth the effort.

    StormCat – Heave Ho! You’re such a good sd! AM may find it in her heart to reward the good deeds to counter her evil sister!

  63. SincereSD says:

    IM4U2DSIRE says: That doesnt even cover my rent and you want to meet at least once per week…. Honestly i know i could make him raise the budget but i will end it up in the “girlfriend with explanations” kind of relationship without even notice. Thoughts?

    Fwiw, I think you are over analyzing the situation. My comments are:

    – If the chemistry and fit are good … and he is willing to provide a “reasonable” allowance, you have the good starting point for a “relationship”.
    – If you overplay the no gf or nsa only card, you run the risk of alienating him and making the relationship a DNS (did not start). Maybe he wants to feel that you are with him for more than just his wallet;
    – I don’t understand why budget and expectations of Gf are related. If it starts more serious, you have the ability to end or change the relationship. By all means, try and negotiate the allowance higher but be careful that you don’t leave the impression it’s all about money.

    Imho, the basic questions you should ask yourself are:

    – Are you better off with or without the relationship?
    – Knowing there is the risk of Gf expectations, would you be prepared to break things off if you got too serious? In other words, are you comfortable entering into a relationship knowing may be short-term?

    Remember, good SD’s are hard to find so play your cards wisely. Hope this helps and good luck with your decision.

  64. Stormcat says:

    Good Morning Anna M, Good morning Sugarland

    I’m being the consumate good guy volenteer today helping my friend move his daughter to a new apt.

    Ugh Ugh Ugh!
    Oh well at least the sun finally came out!

  65. Anna Molly says:

    Good Mornin’ everyone 😀

  66. YoungEbonyNycSB says:

    Not having much luck on the site.
    Alot of the guys on here aren’t into african american girls for some reason :(
    by any chance do you ladies know any other sites similar to this one for sugar dating

  67. sb-emy says:

    IM4U2DSIRE says:: I think you should be VERY honest with him and outline that while you don’t want to lead him on and waste his time – you’re actually on SA for a reason.

    (Which is not for long term relationships because it isn’t like you would have trouble finding anyone else)

  68. cleo says:

    omg – am bringing in a teacher to do a workshop (and will surely make a decent pile doing so because she is amazing) but omg omg omg she wants half up front which is like 2500 bucks and the other half several weeks in advance! we’re pilates teachers, we scrape up our sheckels the night before…


    (sorry, had to whine)

    i’m actually really excited, it’s a great way to get my name out there in my community as a more senior teacher. bringing in an out of town master is the sort of move that only the bigwigs make.

    it’s a declaration on my part. and i started with the very best teacher i could get that didn’t interfere with what my teacher here in town is already doing.

    so, this is a huge step for me… BUT i have to pay in advance [which is why i got a credit increase last year… but still – lol – ACK!]

    ohhhh there goes the stomach swirl!

    i don’t know why you guys, but i thought some of you might enjoy hearing that :)

  69. cleo says:

    i think it’s a test

  70. IM4U2DSIRE says:

    Hi everybody… I had been very busy with work for the last two days extremely hectic this is the first time that I can sit down and relax… then here is the update… Ladies we were right HurtSD was/is looking for a “girlfriend” material. We did have our drink/date which was very nice and sweet – he was all like crazy about me. I tried to put everything the way it was… NSA relationship and he asked me why that way I explained and he even say what happen if i fell in love with my SD I tried to explained what I was looking for and why i was in the site (it was clear SA).

    Long history short… he texted me twice after our date to tell me it was a pleasure to meet me and that he was going to dream with me. He texted me the day after saying hello and he did texted me today twice which I replied saying hello too.

    We never spoke about the arrangement he told me to teach him cause he was new onb this.. i told him to ask his friend but anyway told him to think what he wanted to get from the arrangement and to let me know in our second date whenever that was.

    Basically he texted me today saying something like…. “so what if i said i only have a budget of 1000 per month and i wanted to meet at least once a week… would you hate me?” which i replied… yes and he answer… so what would it take? i havent answer.

    Hi budget is more than 1000… i know his field (he even drive an H2) and we kind of work in partnership (our business i meant) its complicated to explain but i know he could have a bigger budget.

    That doesnt even cover my rent and you want to meet at least once per week…. Honestly i know i could make him raise the budget but i will end it up in the “girlfriend with explanations” kind of relationship without even notice.


  71. sb-emy says:

    Lisa – put that hot dog down! ew, processed meat.

  72. sb-emy says:

    Right, so months later I find a sugar daddy that seems to good to be true. He’s agreed to a 3k/month allowance, initially confusing the sum with a 3k per week (honestly, who can find it in their right mind to demand this much?) He’s young, handsome and has another sugar baby in another city, she’s around my age and works in a regional city in between.

    The first date was kind of relaxed, fun – he talked a bit about himself, and seemed to come off as incredibly attractive. We’ve been texting ever since, and I really can’t wait to hit that up. He has specified that he’s not into a serious relationship, and that we needed more time to see if we were compatible with one another, but I really don’t mind waiting to see what happens.
    He does however, expect affection and his charms not to go unrewarded, as he says, and it makes me suspect something has happened in the past with a previous sugar baby (also, my age). Any way, i’m content with the allowance and a once per week arrangement, it’s separate from my personal life (boyfriend, living at home) and I do find that not being over 50 a bonus, in your signficant other.


  73. Michael AZ SD says:

    Hello? Anybody here?

  74. Lisa says:

    I really need to join the exercise club across the street so I can lose weight so I need an sd quick
    my dinner was a jumbo hot dog down at the corner store

  75. Lisa says:

    oh and I forgot Jan 23, first email…. if it takes more than a 2 weeks from first email, they never meet

  76. Lisa says:

    He gave a new meaning to “he moves fast” lol he moved me in 28 days

    feb 1- first date
    feb 2 – 2nd date, allowance
    feb 16 3rd date (he was in California for over week playing golf in pebble beach) shopping, allowance,
    feb 19, looked at apartment, applied
    feb 26. lease signed, rent for 6 months paid
    march 1, Lisa leaves for the good side of the freeway :)
    march 5, lunch, shopping
    march 12, lunch, shopping, POOF :(

  77. Lisa says:

    I like to go back to the blogs from last year when alot of my fav bloggers were still on. We used to have a lot of fun blogging day and night.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa~ yah I go back and remember the sugars (like yourself) that got me thru some very lonely holidays.
      Thanks for that by the way :)

      Ok, I am off to get some dinner. I am thinking desert first! ~OC

  78. Lisa says:

    I need to make a trip over to the Galleria to appease the sugargods but can’t do it this week or next, maybe the next. I have never met a sd there but it has brought me luck. I need to get some cute stuff for my apartment but have to save everything to pay my lease in September. My credit is bad and income too low to be allowed to pay monthly. They have high financial standards here to keep people like me from being able to move here. it’s just a miracle that I found an sd that got me out of the other place is less than 30 days. Met him Feb 1, moved march 1

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa~Never piss off the sugar gods that grace the halls of the Galleria! Yes it was a wonderful and amazing
      thing that your past SD did with you as far as getting you into a far better place. The next SD has some big
      shoes to fill :)

  79. Lisa says:

    We are having a second birthday party for Percy on saturday when I get home from work. Just a little cake, he won’t eat anything but birdseed though He was born around this time 2 years ago right before I joined SA.

  80. Lisa says:

    Yes nothing to do, no money to spend, bored, bored, bored. Off tomorrow from work with nothing to do. Have to hide inside because my mom still thinks I have a sd and thinks I see him on fridays. She would be disappointed and asking a million questions if she knew he poofed.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa~I have a very good feeling that you will find another one soon. Too bad you don’t go to the Galleria, you have the most amazing luck with meeting men there!
      Nothing wrong with a little window shopping. Make some popcorn for Percy tonight, he told me to tell you that… lol

      • OCSugarBaby says:

        Lisa~Happy Birthday Percy! My chocolate Lab’s birthday is Saturday too 😉
        I couldn’t sleep last night, so I flipped thru the blogs from the beginning of time.
        Geeze they were so funny to read! I found so much really good info. Have you
        gone back into them and read them lately? You were one of the very first posters 😉

  81. Lisa says:

    Very good advice OC and SuthrnExec

  82. 2Chic says:

    OK… No one here…. Bye for now… off to Sugarworld

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Hey 2Chic! Sorry I missed you hope all is well sugar!

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      I love this post…an oldie but a goodie from SuthrnExec (not that He is an oldie, but he is a goodie)

      How to Identify a Fake Sugar Daddy
      Regarding issues with the fake SDs…

      Before I write further, please understand that these are things that are generally true, but we all know there are exceptions. Here is my little tick-list of things that tell you to “RUN THE OTHER WAY” – particularly when talking to a potential SD:

      * From the first email, they seem too good to be true. They promise you everything – rent, car payment, a car, tuition, etc. Most SDs are that because they have succeeded in business and no matter how much $$ they have, most got it by making good business decisions, so the genuine SDs will take it slower and want to get to know you better.

      * Closely akin to the point above, a genuine SD will be concerned about you and your feelings and your comfort level.

      * Immediately start asking about sex, what you like, etc. Most likely, they are being controlled by the wrong head. Wait a few hours or a day or two – they will completely change their discussion topic or disappear altogether.

      * If they use guise of “I want us to be open” and then want to talk about sex and other intimate topics from the beginning.

      * If they pressure you to come to them for the initial meeting – especially immediately after you first make contact. It is usually best if the SD meets the SB in her town, simply for safety’s sake. An SD will understand this. He should be a gentleman at ALL times. There may be times when it makes more sense for the SB to go to him for the first meeting – it cane happen. But he will be a gentleman about the arrangements (you will have ticket in-hand, hotel arranged, etc.). Generally though, he should go to her. Be PATIENT – there will be time for traveling to each other later on.

      * If the SD pressures you to meet him the first night after you first make contact with each other. He needs to go to another site because he’s not looking for a SB.

      * He will insist that you and he “go to your place” after your first meeting. A SD and a gentleman will not push the intimacy. It must be mutual and everyone needs to be comfortable with it. Make the decision with what you’re comfortable with before meeting and stick with it.

      * You decide to meet and he cancels at the last minute more than once – be careful! I know things come up, but it’s a pretty good sign he’s getting cold feet and he’s not genuine if he cancels at the last minute twice in a row.

      * This is more about his profile than about how he behaves. Is he “too hot?” Is he manicured to the nines and stiffly posing in typical model poses? Does he have pancake makeup on (as indicated by excessively even coloration of the skin)? Is the guy absolutely catalog-perfect, every single hair in place, clothing immaculate, positioning camera-ready? If so, he may be a fake.

      * Genuine SDs won’t be in a rush – they will want to get to know you. There is a line here that has to be drawn because many SBs will have in their profile that they are no into endless emails – in other words, the SD will want to email, char and text be never want to move it forward. There is a balance – but primarily the difference will be that the SD will not push you to move it forward more quickly than you want.

      * Be wary of SDs that talk about the financial arrangement in terms of xx$ per meeting or visit. Finances need to be discussed at a mutual comfort level, but a SD that talks about the financial arrangement in terms of $$ per visit – watch out! He’s either terribly naïve, ignorant or a player. He needs to go to another site.

      * Genuine SDs will read your profile. If your profile states that you are not into sex chat and the first thing he writes is all about sex, you know he hasn’t read your profile. Ladies, you know us guys are 90% visual, but that doesn’t excuse not reading the profile. We are big boys and a genuine SD will be more interested in getting to know you than getting “it” as soon as possible!

      * Genuine SDs will demonstrate chivalry – you should be able to tell if he is chivalrous. It may take him a while to figure out how to express the chivalry in ways that you appreciate, but you should see the effort being made in him.

      Ok, it’s late but I am sure there are other “fake SD identifiers” that others can add – especially the SBs.

      – SuthrnExec

  83. 2Chic says:

    Hi Sugas!

    How is everyone?

  84. I’m here. Sigh. So here. And I miss being the puppet master.

  85. Anna Molly says:

    Where is everyone today?

  86. SincereSD says:


    Yes it’s a beautiful day today. A little too windy for golf and I am meeting my accountant to finish my taxes. Should be as painful as dental surgery 😥

    Think I need some Pina Colada’s to drown my sorrows. Want to join me?

    Hope to see you at the meet!

  87. MindyNYC – oh boy. now I know.

    He called and said that *I* have really cheered him up today just over the phone and wants to see me this evening. I couldn’t, but he said it was fine, and that he’s really looking forward to seeing me when I can. He said he may go to Paris this weekend and he would certainly think of me when the sun is shining and all things are beautiful, and the following weekend, he promised we would see each other for sure.

  88. SincereSD says:

    Stormcat says: OK AM. I’ve been wracking my brain but I just can’t remember the words to the Pina Colata Song. But I’m sure you’re right, whatever you ment by that.

    Stormcat, I’ll stand in for Shoo today with the music expert as she is (will be?) travelling today. The song you are wondering about is “Pina Colada” by Rupert Holmes. It has a fairy tale ending which most sugar relationships unfortunately don’t have. I’ve included the lyrics below:

    We’d been together too long
    Like a worn-out recording
    Of a favorite song
    So while she lay there sleeping
    I read the paper in bed
    And in the personal columns
    There was this letter I read

    (Start Chorus)
    “If you like Pina Coladas
    And getting caught in the rain
    If you’re not into yoga
    If you have half a brain
    If you’d like making love at midnight
    In the dunes on the Cape
    Then I’m the love that you’ve looked for
    Write to me and escape.”
    (End Chorus)

    I didn’t think about my lady
    I know that sounds kind of mean
    But me and my old lady
    Have fallen into the same old dull routine
    So I wrote to the paper
    Took out a personal ad
    And though I’m nobody’s poet
    I thought it wasn’t half bad

    “Yes I like Pina Coladas
    And getting caught in the rain
    I’m not much into health food
    I am into champagne
    I’ve got to meet you by tomorrow noon
    And cut through all this red-tape
    At a bar called O’Malley’s
    Where we’ll plan our escape.”

    So I waited with high hopes
    And she walked in the place
    I knew her smile in an instant
    I knew the curve of her face
    It was my own lovely lady
    And she said, “Oh it’s you.”
    Then we laughed for a moment
    And I said, “I never knew.”

    (Repeat chorus twice)

  89. Stormcat says:

    Oh Damn! I was so hoping that we had a screenplay in the making!

  90. MindyNYC says:

    OUCH Lils! But I am soo glad he answered your ad – always best to know what you are truly working with…

    Morning All! Hope everyone has a great day!

  91. Stormcat says:

    I meant – Now, that is a real collectable situation!

  92. I’m now sneaky. I’m not proud of what I’m about to reveal:

    He’s just taken the bait I put out there. My sugar friend answered the email he sent to my ad as if she were me, went on a date with him today for coffee, and he’s now pursuing her, hot & heavy. Wants to go to Paris with her this weekend and book the tickets today.


    Now the phone is ringing and he’s calling me.

  93. Stormcat says:

    AM – Oh I remember now.
    Lili – maybe you ought accept the invite to go to Paris and see what falls out when you show up. Not that is a real collectable situation!
    Red Maru – you didn’t miss me this time. I’m here! What’s happening?

  94. Anna Molly says:

    Stormcat ~ The guy places a personal ad and his better half answers it 😀

  95. RedMaru says:

    Morning sugars !
    How is it that I keep missing the excitement and Stormcat(giggle)!

  96. Stormcat says:

    OK AM
    I’ve been wracking my brain but I just can’t remember the words to the Pina Colata Song. But I’m sure you’re right, whatever you ment by that.

  97. Stormcat says:

    Wow Lily, you’re revealing yourself. I always suspected that your bravado was more emotional defense than working philosophy. Now it turns out that there’s a hopeless romantic underneath it all.

    Anyway, take it all as positive. I can offer the standard consolation “Good to find out earlier rather than later,” but it’s obvious you weren’t in it for the consolation prize, or the casual fling either for that matter. So what I really want to say is “Hang in there baby, with your charm you’ll find your prince! Besides If you’re with this guy when your prince shows up, you might miss him entirely.

  98. JSB says:

    Wow Lily what are the chances of the guy responding to your ad! It was prob meant to be for some unknown reason…atleast you know what he is up to, he on the other hand prob has no idea it is you…atleast he is drawn to you in more than one platform lol. Best of luck keep us posted!


  99. He could not have known that it was my ad. It was eloquently translated from English by a local friend.


    In the back of my mind I enjoyed thinking maybe we’ll actually end up together. maybe, someday, he would eventually get out of his relationship he doesn’t want to be in, and I’ll get sugar out of my system and get financially independent and successful, and in a year or two, maybe we live happily ever after. it was a nice thought/dream. I didn’t think the emotions involved weren’t strong enough to warrant such a dream.

    but now, just 5 days after an AMAZING, intense romantic night with me–a perfect night, I thought– he answers the ad and in his initial email, puts his phone number, email, and pressures the person on the other end to call and move forward and even to go to Paris THIS WEEKEND together. Without even having talked to the woman behind the ad or seen a pic. Seems like he’s carpet bombing & a very active player.

  100. Anna Molly says:

    Oh, yes Stormcat….. a version of the Pina Colada song 😉

  101. Stormcat says:

    Oh, I almost forgot!
    Good Morning Sugarland ! :)

  102. Stormcat says:

    And there was a third possibility . . .
    maybe he’s following you, keeping track of your activities, etc. Is he the possessive envious type?
    maybe he’s investigating you because he’s way more into you than you realize.
    I mean could he have known that it was your ad he was answering ?

    Just a thought.

  103. (oh and the “sugar ad” doesn’t mention sugar, as on that local site, it’s forbidden to hint at sugar)

  104. I’ve tried striking it sugary in the regular dating pool, amongst those who are of SD calibur. One in particular I’ve worked on in the last 3-4 months, a man I had been in an affair with 18 months ago but at the time was seeking a traditional relationship and he and I clicked very well but then I realized he wasn’t single, he admitted, and I broke it off. The last few months I started up the affair again and tried to turn it into an arrangement with no luck. Then I find out he’s cash poor, no salary, every single thing he owns or spends (which is a LOT) is on his company/business expenditure, and his business partner is the girlfriend of 10 years that he lives with. Hard to extract himself from that. But I’ve been patient in seeing what happens, and still see him because a) I have feelings for him and b) he has recently decided to let me resurrect a dormant (but formerly successful, with still a good brand image) consulting company of his and be my business mentor to see me succeed, as his protege and future sole operator of this company. I see that as quasi-sugar, definitely value-added into this scenario I’m currently is as his smitten mistress, and I was happy.
    But I still had a sugar ad up for the hell of it, as I’m not exculsive or monogomous with anyone, and every guy I know is taken. *shrug*

    Last night, my nonSD guy answered my sugar ad. :( Apparently 1 relationship + 1 affair-with-girl-he’s-crazy-about-but-can’t-really-be-with-yet isn’t enough for him….. or the more likely scenario is that he’s not as into me as I thought he was. Ouch.

  105. JSB says:

    Cleo – Messaged you! Thnx!!

    Morning All – how is everyone doing?? Is it just me or is this a crazy/busy week??

    I heard it is supposed to be really warm in Toronto today so I cannot wait!

    Happy Thursday everyone!!

    – Jordan

  106. Michael AZ SD says:

    Lily – what’s the story? What’s going on?

  107. Gutted.
    Games are not fun unless you are the stage director.

  108. Michael AZSD says:

    I am in beautiful Arizona, 85 degrees and sunny today! 90 tomorrow I think. We live in paradise this time of year.

  109. Anna Molly says:

    The better question is where are you? 😉

  110. Anna Molly says:

    Hi Michael AZSD! I’m here and still in NY where it is cool and rainy :(

    You’re right, it has been a very slow day on the blog.

  111. Michael AZSD says:

    Ummm … come here often?

    Wow, it is quiet in here tonight! Where are you, Anna?

  112. Anna Molly says:

    Hi 😀

  113. Michael AZSD says:

    Evening all ….

  114. cleo says:

    JSB: email me at toronto sugar meet at gmail dot com

    thanks :)

  115. PAK says:


    “So, a couple hours later I received a call from the new pot. SD telling me that he is finally finished and that he’d still like to meet. Rather conveiniently the other SD had to go back home and so I said Okay. Let’s just say that he was better than I expected physically, but he seems to be very reserved and I hate to say it..but BORING. I’m not rude, loud, or obnoxious but I do prefer men with more intense personalities. This guy just didn’t seem to have that much substance (you would thik someone in 9-figure range would be a little more assertive)…and so when he kissed me, it was….Yawn. To make a long story short, it was a great evening with consensual mediochre ending. The next morning I woke up to find a really nice note with a nicely sealed envelop, saying that he had a great time and that I’ll be hearing from him again.

    So, I guess you can say my trip was a definite success. I just wish I had that crazy animal attraction for this SD because that always makes things super fun. We will see. Maybe I can somehow bring him out of his shell and rough him up a little bit. I need excitement!”

    I just wonder if he is shy. What would you describe an intense personality on the first meeting?

  116. PAK says:

    So what exactly are the “subtle” words that people may place?

  117. Anna Molly says:

    I’m sorry about your POT Lily, I’m sure he knows that he is in your thoughts and it gives him great comfort :)

  118. I just had the world’s longest day. Hardest, yuckiest one in almost a year.
    Out to fancy dinner tonight, thank god!
    LadyIntim, sounds like a hectic trip. Glad you had fun but giiiirl you are a player. However, NSA means NSA.

    Still thinking about my potSD w/ cancer & feel so shitty for him. :(

  119. TM says:

    I definitely know what I am getting into, guess its best to be up-front and clear. I’ll just have to narrow down the replies. As long as i do my “homework/research” i think I’ll be okay.

    Thanks for the advice,


  120. Michael AZ SD says:

    StormCat – you are right on the mark with your comments. Sometimes getting caught up in the moment makes it difficult to see with clarity.

    Thanks mate!

  121. Karen says:

    I would like to meet that speciel someone, to take me away, and show me how a man should really treat a lady.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Welcome Karen!
      Ohhh YES… meeting that someone special is
      a fabulous goal! SD gentlemen are so fine.
      The true gems are here, but be patient. They
      may be skeptical at first due to their past
      experiences. Just be yourself and show them
      that a true Lady SB does exist 😉
      I am so excited for your new journey! ~OC

  122. Michael AZ SD says:

    Hey LadyIntim – sounds like a good trip!! Yep, this SB is waaaaay fun, just going to take it easy. Have a great day.

  123. Anna Molly says:

    Stormcat – Thanks for the email! I’m on my Blackberry so I will respond when I get home. 😀

    Hope everyone is having a great morning!

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Good Morning and Welcome Sdiva and TM!
      TM the gay sugar world is a bit different.
      I would not want to give you poor advice about your first
      experience. Maybe “B” or another gay Sugar Baby would
      want to assist us.
      Hey Taz!

  124. LadyIntim says:

    Michael AZ SD, I was going to say, it sounds like you have found true passion. GO FOR IT!!!

  125. LadyIntim says:

    Goodmorning, Midwest. Goodmorning, everyone! Nice and cloudy outside. Brewing a large pot of coffee and thinking about going for a ride…early early!

    About my date…it did not go as planned, but I am not complaining. So, I arrived at the hotel of the city I was meeting my pot. married SD. He texts me 2 hours before we are supposed to meet for dinner and tells me that he is sorry but he is stuck in a business meeting for 3 more hours and to meet him later. At this point I’m thinking WOW, what a bunch of BS and text my other married SD who happens to live in the same city. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if the pot. SD didn’t follow through as all my travel expenses were already covered + he had already sent me a portion of the allowance in advance. If anything, it would suck for him to be missing out. But I wasn’t going to sit in my room alone and not take advantage of my beautiful surroundings. So, I ended up having a wonderful dinner with my other SD. We had a great time as always…he is handsome, funny and very Generou$, so already even if everything failed through my trip was totally worth it.

    So, a couple hours later I received a call from the new pot. SD telling me that he is finally finished and that he’d still like to meet. Rather conveiniently the other SD had to go back home and so I said Okay. Let’s just say that he was better than I expected physically, but he seems to be very reserved and I hate to say it..but BORING. I’m not rude, loud, or obnoxious but I do prefer men with more intense personalities. This guy just didn’t seem to have that much substance (you would thik someone in 9-figure range would be a little more assertive)…and so when he kissed me, it was….Yawn. To make a long story short, it was a great evening with consensual mediochre ending. The next morning I woke up to find a really nice note with a nicely sealed envelop, saying that he had a great time and that I’ll be hearing from him again.

    So, I guess you can say my trip was a definite success. I just wish I had that crazy animal attraction for this SD because that always makes things super fun. We will see. Maybe I can somehow bring him out of his shell and rough him up a little bit. I need excitement!

    Sorry for the super long e-mail, guys. Michael AZ SD

  126. Stormcat says:

    You’ve got mail!

  127. Stormcat says:

    Good morning sugarland
    Specifically, AM, Michael, late rizing lurkers

    Michael – I second Lilly’s words. Arrangements evolve, so let it evolve and just enjoy the process. A lot of important things have to happen before you can let an arrangement become a love relationship and they will happen spontaneously. So just be patient and don’t fight it. If you’re right for the more traditional relationship then it will go there. But don’t be disappionted if it goes in some other direction. If it does, that will be the true form and you will be glad that you have it.

  128. Michael AZ SD says:

    Lily – wise words indeed. I was over-thinking a bit. Thanks!

  129. Anna Molly says:

    Good morning everyone 😀

  130. Michael AZ SD says:

    Hey Mindy – yep, it’s kinda fun, thanks! How is NYC treating you?

  131. MindyNYC says:

    Hey MAZD! Nice to see ya. Good to hear things are working out!

  132. MindyNYC says:

    Welcome TM!
    Well, anything is possible, but may not be likely. If the pot has made it clear that he expects sex, then you need to make sure that you tell him your boundaries beforehand, so you can both decide if a there is a future in an arrangement. I would suggest you put in your profile that you are limited to intimacy only and not sex. It may help narrow down who contacts you. BUT more than anything, TM, I would STRONGLY suggest that you (and any other new sugars) really take your time and read over the blog archives before meeting with anyone. Research and study well, so you are equipped to handle whatever may come your way. I can not stress this enough! Take your time! Good luck!

  133. Michael, I would say that

    a) you two are very into each other, no doubt about that. Yay!

    b) you are having a great time, and feeling inspired, alive, & happy!

    c) you bring out the best in one another, perhaps?

    There is no advice other than, “don’t overthink, don’t mess it up by not staying appreciative, & don’t stop pouring energy into the priority of keeping things FUN!”

  134. kittykittybangbang says:

    I made a picture thank you CLEO!
    My profile is still not approved as I was very tired last night and forgot some “I’m” or doubled up on some words..So i had to fix it! DRATS! Another 24 hours pending approval!
    hmm now to do something productive with my day like paint my nails ..
    Bah i hate being jobless! I miss my pet shop!

  135. Michael AZSD says:

    Hey guys I’m back. Been away for a while. To keep on topic, my new SB and I have been very open with each other, and then we do exactly the opposite of what we agree.

    The arrangement is twice / month, but we saw each other 3 times in the first week, and can’t wait to see each other again. We agree that the arrangement is open, and then we spend so much time together that it can only be exclusive. And we are talking about other projects together.

    Funkiest thing – my lust is exceeded only by my desire to spend time talking and goofing around with her. She is the same.

    I think we are in trouble ….

    Comments & thoughts? Lily and Shoogar? I need your wisdom.


  136. TT (AKA Tantalizing Taz) says:

    Hello sugarland!! Just came back to prove I still existed I suppose lol…am looking very forward to the Toronto meet this weekend!!

    Ummm obviously didn’t get caught up on the last hundred or so blogs…but I just saw beach and midwest were banned?? Sigh…too much drama for me..anyhow – miss ya sugar fam!!

    Signing off.

  137. Michael AZSD says:

    Hello all…

  138. TM says:

    Okay, so I’m completely brand new to this, and literally just joined this site this morning. Im an 18 year old guy and i need some advice. So ive gotten a few emails (which i totally didn’t expect so soon), and there is this sd who is “very” interested in me, or as it seems. So heres the thing this sd is single and doesnt make a “huge” salary” but says hes a millionaire. I think he was pretty upfront with me. He has offered to fly me out (to where he lives) for a weekend and go out for dinner and see the city, ect.. The thing is, im nervous. Im not really looking for sex (like right away). The thing is im a complete virgin ( i know, u can make fun of me now). But seriously its not like i cant be intimate, (im also not a prostitute). The thing that makes me nervous is that this sd sent me an email, but he sent me naked pics and told me how physical relations are common in arrangements, in other words, think hes telling me that he wants “action”, but is it possible to not have sex and be intamate physically?. Im not saying “action” will never happen, but i just want to wait, find a connection. My question is; Can it be possible for an arrangement to be made, where there is allowance but no guaranteed sex? ahaha what should i do!? appreciate the help.

  139. JSB says:

    Hello….longest day/night ever!!

    Thanks SincereSD and Cleo..I will def email you for details!! Sounds fun!!

    I am going to crash…going to try to make a 6am spin class haha

    Sweet dreams everyone!

    PS Direct…I enjoy a guy who knows exactly what he wants…

  140. Midwest says:

    I agree…Jade and SDinLA as well.

  141. NYGent says:

    Midwest: congrats, looks like you’re back. Now we just need to get Beach Girl unblocked. The admins will usually do the right thing when it’s brought to their attention, hopefully they will again.

  142. Midwest says:

    Yay LadyI! Do tell about the trip!

  143. LadyIntim says:

    I prefer direct. Less feces, more fetching. And yes, great success this month in particular. Hi, everyone! I just got back from my trip. Missed the blog! :)

  144. Midwest says:

    Hi Eric! So glad you’re getting a tan…mine will be a spray tan:-)

  145. Stormcat, tell me about it, the weather in London is usually shitty, but today it was actually a good 20C and close to no wind, perfect to work on the tan 😉

    AM, I would’ve loved to come to dinner lol, my dinner tonight was a frozen pizza, I feel bad now 😛

  146. Lisa says:

    Yes he sounds like he’s looking for a girlfriend. And seeing anyone 3-4 times a week is just too much for it to be a casual fun relationship, that’s more like a job and if he’s looking for a girlfriend, probably with no allowance. I don’t waste my time with dating anymore even at my age, relationships end and you have nothing to show for it for the time you invested whereas arrangments end but at least you can look at the things you were able to aquire as a result. Good times and memories fade where as practical financial assistance can benefit you long after the arrangement.

  147. IM4U2DSIRE says:

    oh i forgot he is driving like 1 1/2 hour just to meet me and had been driving me crazy to meet me over the weekend but i did have plans.

  148. IM4U2DSIRE says:

    Thats what worried me about HurtSD… he told me all his long history about the break up and how faithfull he was and is in a relationship the first time we spoke over the phone. And mention his friend who is married wanted him to have fun and did his profile… he is not sure how this works and i really dont want to end like his girlfriend. I do have my own life and dont want to end it up like going out with him 3 or 4 times a week like his girlfriend… u know when you have that feeling that thats what he wants? we will see how i do in this one. =) thank you ladies.

  149. Lisa says:

    the direct approach is always best. The sd that wanted to meet her at a hotel poofed because it was not a sd at all and might have even tried to get a free testdrive so no loss there. On HurtSd, you must be very upfront about the arrangement so that you don’t fall into the girlfriend catagory which in today’s world seems to mean paying for yourself on dates.

  150. Midwest says:

    IAM4U – Yay! Good for you. This date with HurtSD is one where you may have to be clear you are not here for a traditional relationship. Unless, of course, you want one. It’s fair to him in case he’s new at being a SD.

  151. SDiva says:

    Do you prefer sugar that’s more subtle, or direct?
    I like direct. It make it easier. I like to fully understand what I am getting into.

    Have you had any sugar success lately?
    Nope, but I’m cute as pie so there’s hope. lol

  152. IM4U2DSIRE says:

    Hello ladies… just to update… OMG, Lily you were soooooo right!!!! after i sent him the email saying straight forward that i was going to meet him very casual and with clothes on and no expectations to go to an hotel right after lunch… he hasnt respond to my email…. when he wanted to make the “arrangement” email me a couple of times in two days and call me yesterday like 4 times now…. nothing!!!

    I rather to be that way cause i dont have time for his BS… I am meeting a potSD tonite for drinks to see how it goes… no pressure or hotels after. I know he had his heart broken (that is what he told me over the phone when we spoke last week) and he never done this before. He doesnt know what to expect or even what he is looking for.

    We will see how it goes because i want the chemistry but I am not looking for the boyfriend/girlfriend serious relationship. I will let you guys know what happen tonite.

    Wish me luck. =)

    Oh sorry answering the question… I think I rather very direct sugar… i am not good reading between the lines.

  153. Midwest says:

    Thank you Stephan! (((Hugs!))))
    Thank you Stephan! (((Hugs!))))
    Thank you Stephan! (((Hugs!))))
    Thank you Stephan! (((Hugs!))))
    Thank you Stephan! (((Hugs!))))
    Thank you Stephan! (((Hugs!))))

  154. Anna Molly says:

    Baked…lol. Sorry 😀

  155. Anna Molly says:

    I made toffee bars for dessert and BBQ Chicken backed potatos for dinner….mmmmm. Who wants to join me? 😀

  156. Chitown SB says:

    And to answer the blog question:

    I prefer a pot to be straight forward. I don’t really enjoy guessing games, and subtlety, while appreciated in some areas, can too easily turn into playing unwanted games in sugar dating.

    Haven’t heard from ArtistSD in 2 weeks… I am thinking things may be done since he had been wanting to meet 2x a week. Ah well, I found him to be pleasant but will not needlessly expend worry and effort. No other Sugar updates, things are pretty dry.

  157. midwest says:

    FLSB – I left a message for you earlier but don’t see it now. You can reach me through Lily or Cleo. Click their names and thy will put us in touch!

  158. Chitown SB says:

    Hello everyone!

    I have been away for a bit. Swamped with work.

    I am officially moving to VA come June, though it is only for 7months. Have to go where there is work!

    Though, Chicago will always be home so I will be keeping my blog name I think.

    It would be great to start chatting with some pots closer to N.E. VA… and start making some friends in the area too!

    have a sweet and sugary day all…

  159. Anna Molly says:

    Thanks Lily 😀

  160. Anna Molly says:

    Mmmmm, I made toffee bars…. 😀

  161. AM I woulda tried tooth & nail to get your trip covered. *heart* you.

  162. Anna Molly says:

    Lily, I would come, but as you know I’m sans passport as of right now 😀

  163. LaBelleEpoque says:

    Hi everyone, a newbie here from Toronto.. Created my SA premium profile a month ago, but now left it as standard – I realized that my current circumstance doesn’t give me the advantages to be an SB. I might revisit the idea if my situation changes (soon) though.

    Just want to thank everyone here for their contribution to the blog, it’s been fun reading and learning. Thank you for sharing your experience and insights, it’s greatly appreciated.

    ps. Wonder whether I can attend the meet being a newbie? Or if not, perhaps would love to meet other local SBs/SDs in the future..

  164. Sugar in full Swing. Seriously. I could type way more than 1 page about it, but then I may be boasting superfluously. :)

    Who else wants to come to Lily-land in May? :) Where is JetSet lately? If your’e lurking, I cannot wait to see you, darling lil’ suga’ sis’!

  165. ESB says:

    Doesn’t it just figure… I haven’t heard from anyone on here in weeks, and now I have 4 mesages just this week!! Huh! Gonna take some time to get to know them… see who gets to be the lucky guy 😉

    I guess I better go finish dressing for my interview. Catch ya all later!! HUGS!!

  166. ESB says:

    Good Afternoon Sugar Family!! Cleo, OC, AM, Lisa.. did I miss anyone!! HUGS!!

    I got the afternoon off by default. My bos didn’t show up, I use his laptop, so there was nothing I could do… and I sprained my wrist, so I just gave up!!

    I havea job interview in a few, so just wanted to catch up and say HI!!

  167. cleo says:

    AM i am now dying for a mocha!
    morn OC!

  168. Anna Molly says:

    Mmmmm, a coffee sounds good. It’s cool and rainy :(

  169. cleo says:

    i tried their dark cherry mocha… delicious!

  170. Anna Molly says:

    Bye OC, Bye Lisa 😀

  171. Anna Molly says:

    I haven’t been into a Starbucks in forever!!

    Hi everyone 😀

  172. Lisa says:

    Going to leave starbucks now to go to the mall.
    Have a good afternoon

  173. Lisa says:

    caramel machiato here :)

  174. Lisa says:

    Hi OC yes I love my macbook and since I have att hi speed I get free wifi at any starbucks and there are only 3 starbucks within walking distance of me. lol

    The ipad looks like it would be pull of fingerprints all the time, the apple store at the mall is always full of people playing with the ipads.

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Lisa I am so jealous! I want a Mac too.
      Lucky girl 😉
      Hmmm my favorite coffee is a skinny vanilla latte with soy milk.
      Yummy 😉

  175. cleo says:

    AM: i have been finding the undercurrents in the sugar pond distressing to my peace of mind… so i’m currently sunning myself on the sidelines… i’ll be back more regularly eventually
    JSB: i’m the organizer, find me!

  176. Lisa says:

    Good morning everyone. Sitting at starbucks having coffee with mom

  177. kittykittybangbang says:

    woopsie my number 423869

  178. kittykittybangbang says:

    Thanks babe .. I’ll do it when its not 2 am in aus! lol!

    Check out my profile if you like.. as every day goes by I decide on a new thing that I feel should or shouldn’t be added..
    I’d love any advice seeing as I’m new and have been unsuccessful in finding a suitable sd!
    night night babies and daddies!..

  179. Anna Molly says:

    Slow day today!

    Hi Cleo! Where have you been? Are you okay?

    • OCSugarBaby says:

      Welcome Sweet in Santa Barbara!
      Whoohoo an other Cali girl on the blog 😉

      You gave some of the best advice I have
      read in WEEKS!
      It is worth re-posting.
      “Find out a respectful way to do this, though, it can sound demanding or come off as an air of entitlement if not addressed carefully”

      • OCSugarBaby says:

        Sweet Dreams “B”…
        Nothing worse than a person who
        does not take care of their smile 😉

  180. SouthernGent2 says:

    Stormcat – i don’t think so. I have always been southerngent2

  181. cleo says:

    kittykittybangbang (great name btw) go to gravatar dot com

  182. kittykittybangbang says:

    how do you get a picture on your blog …
    I hope to hear back before I come back from midnight drive to get a ice cream… mmmm
    <3 aus

  183. Stormcat – she’s coming to Lily-land, of course. The bestest overseas destination there is.

  184. NYC SB – thanks, sweetie!!! Glad my pot came through for you & pal, & we shall see one another next week! Goody!

  185. Anna Molly says:

    I have deciphered the code Stormcat, thank you. I will send you an email.

    The coffee sounds good, but you’re right…not optimal 😀

    Hi Eric 😀

  186. Stormcat says:

    Well I’m out the door, See yall later!
    AM – I used the soymilk, Just added a little extra honey. Not too bad that way. Just not optimal.

  187. Stormcat says:

    Good morning Eric

    Good weather? In London? Ha Ha. I spent one July in London and had to wear a down jacket the whole month. Well I guess it’s all relative and coming from a nortic (you guys sunbathe at 10C) I think I’ll have to reserve judgement till I see it myself.

  188. Morning guys!

    AM, good to see you :)

    Beautiful weather today here in London, love it! Finally it seems the summer has arrived :)

    Stormcat, welcome back!

  189. Stormcat says:

    AM nobody sent me your e-mail but, if you can interpret code you might give me a ya ho o yourself. My name there is stormcatgl

  190. Stormcat says:

    Morning southern
    Do I know you? Are you the SG that was blogging last year and you just transformed to SG2 after some kind of epiphany, or are you completely unrelated to that other gentleman?

  191. SouthernGent2 says:

    Morning naughty Molly 😉

  192. Anna Molly says:

    I have to have cream for my coffee…ugh. I feel your pain Stormcat. Try to have a good day at work 😉

    Morning SG2! 😀

  193. Stormcat says:

    GM AM
    Good morning everyone,

    I’m headed out to work early this morning. But not a good start for me. No cream for my coffee . . . only soy milk. Well I guess I’ll just stop somewhere and buy some.

  194. SouthernGent2 says:

    I would prefer to be direct, but for some reason its never as easy as it would seem. And I have found most girls I have met just nod their heads seemingly agreeing to things I say. Now if I met someone and her directness sounded like a demanding ultimatum, then I would be totally turned off. I just feel most comfortable saying what I want and am willing to do. She can agree to it or not.

  195. Anna Molly says:

    Good morning everyone :)

  196. SincereSD says:

    From the previous blog:

    JSB says: My name is Jordan, I am from Toronto so if any of you are in the area let me know!!

    Jordan, there are a lot of us Torontonians here on the blog … Cleo, Taz, Kiki, Kitty, myself, iamcdn, to name a few.

    In case you are not aware there is a Toronto sugar get together coming up shortly. Ping me on hotmail and I will put you in touch with the organizer.

  197. Sweet in Santa Barbara says:

    Yes direct is best. Don’t be ashamed to ask for what you are looking for. If it is reasonable the other half will appreciate knowing you are on the same page and you will know they are serious. Find out a respectful way to do this, though, it can sound demanding or come off as an air of entitlement if not addressed carefully.

  198. Anna Molly says:

    Well, I tried sleeping, but I’m hungry so here I am…lol

    Stormcat ~ I haven’t put up a new profile yet, but, I don’t mind sharing my email :)

    Can someone please share my email with Stormcat…thank you!:)

    Can’t post emails here 😀

  199. Stormcat says:

    oops SBs

  200. Stormcat says:

    AM I scanned the SB that came up in Albany but didn’t spot you. Give me another clue. Height, Age, body type, profile number, anything!

  201. Anna Molly says:

    My eyes are getting sleepy…have a good night eveyone, see you in the AM :)

  202. Anna Molly says:

    I would like that Stormcat :)

  203. Stormcat says:

    AM I think I’m going to have to look you up and, at the very least, include you in some of our group activities. (A bunch of scientists, artists, musicians and crazy people who love Addirondak Life)

  204. Stormcat says:

    NYC kudos to you Gorgeous. I’ve spent a lot of time in Europe and I love it there. Where specifically are you going?

  205. Anna Molly says:

    No I haven’t, does sound like fun though!

    Sorry to hear about your fall, that is one of the reasons why I haven’t tried yet…lol

  206. Stormcat says:

    Well you got to try it. I don’t downhill anymore. (I had a bad fall in Austria 3 years ago and spen a year recovering.) But cross country is still on my agenda.

    Ever think about white water kayaking? It’s really fun and doesn’t take long to learn. Now it the best time of year for it.

  207. Midwest says:

    NYC – So cool that Lily’s potSD came through! You are going to have a fabulous time!

  208. Anna Molly says:

    Nice! I have never been skiing, but have always wanted to learn 😀

  209. Stormcat says:

    Originally, I bought a place there about 5 years ago XC-skiing in the winter and kayaking in the summer. Now the property is mine and my ex got the house in Westchester.

  210. Anna Molly says:

    You’ll be about an hour away from me 😀

  211. NYC SB says:

    Storm – we sure do :)

    Next week will be lovely… Sugar SA Party on Tuesday

    Trip to Europe on Wednesday…. beyond psyched!

    DC – I am sooooooooooooo happy for you my dear your bf is an amazing catch and I am sooo glad to see you happy…if you are ever in nyc i would love to meet up and catch up

    For the one hit wonders – sorry to disprove your theory on Lils but she is awesome… and she is good on her word 😀 Thank you for everything dear! Cannot wait to meet you… someone in NYC (not me) holds you in VERY high regard!

    Newbies – take a look at my blog… a lot of useful info there

    Everyone else – lots of sugar (not splenda) your way

  212. Anna Molly says:

    Wow!! Really!! Why Hope..if you don’t mind me asking?

    No, I will not be attending the May 4th party.

  213. Stormcat says:

    NYC – I’m bringing a friend along trying to convince him that he needs to get into sugar dating. I want you to meet him.

  214. Stormcat says:

    AM are you serious I’m moving to Hope, NY (about 30 miles from Saratoga Springs) We’re almost neighbors! Are you going to the SA party on the 4th?

  215. Stormcat says:

    Oh what a pleasure!! Definately I’ll be there. I was lurking a while before I started posting again and I read that you were going to be there so I signed up immediately. We have a lot to talk about!

  216. Anna Molly says:

    Hi NYC!!

  217. Anna Molly says:

    Near Albany NY 😀

  218. NYC SB says:

    Hi stormy! im here… but not as much anymore… i will see you at the SA party i hope 😀

  219. Stormcat says:

    AM I’m sure you’ve said it before but I can’t remember yet. Where are you located?

  220. Anna Molly says:

    Oh, my goodness…yes, we should stop

    Maybe we scared her off…lol

  221. Stormcat says:

    Where did RedMaru go? I thought I saw her earlier.

  222. Stormcat says:

    OH AM We have to stop now. People will think we’re having a converstaion on the blog. No chitting and chatting allowed. Only serious stuff here!

  223. Anna Molly says:

    Hmmmmm, if they’re lucky 😉

  224. Stormcat says:

    That must be something . . . any chance of anyone having an arrangement with both of you? 😉

  225. Anna Molly says:

    Sometimes she gets out of her cage….don’t worry, she likes it in there 😉

  226. Anna Molly says:

    That is my naughty twin sister who like to come out and play every once in a while…hehehe 😉

  227. Stormcat says:

    OK – sorry – I’m feeling a little silly tonight.

  228. Stormcat says:

    goes by

  229. Stormcat says:

    It seems like someone else is also using it for their blog avatar. She coes bu the handle Naughty Molly. Hey . . . you must be related you have the same last name.

  230. Anna Molly says:

    Thank you Stormcat 😀

  231. Anna Molly says:

    Oh, Why did I pick it for the blog….I was bored with Jessica Rabbit 😀

  232. Stormcat says:

    AM. Its lovely! :)

  233. Stormcat says:

    Hey whohoo
    Red Maru
    How are you!

  234. Anna Molly says:

    Stormcat ~ That is me and it’s the picture I use for my profile. 😀

  235. RedMaru says:

    Midwest – Yes after 16 hours (14 hours to download the game and two hours for the patch update) it works though its only the beta version and only in multi-player

  236. Stormcat says:

    My avatar is a pic of a crystal of benitoite. As one of my hobbies I collect minerals that contain the element Titanium. benitoite is one of them and is also the rarest gemstone on earth.

  237. Stormcat says:

    So AM what is the story with your avatar?

    Is it you? What were you doing? Why did you pick it for the blog?

  238. Anna Molly says:


    Posted before I finished….oooops

  239. Anna Molly says:


  240. Stormcat says:

    Thanks AM.
    Must be for a reason.
    Or not! lol
    But I was unhappy and lonely in marriage. That was way I joined the sugar party. So this was inevitable,

  241. Anna Molly says:

    Wow Stormcat, I’m sorry to hear that….

  242. Stormcat says:

    [Repost from last topic] :)

    VC DC OC deuci , , ,

    he he he he, . . Dostoyevsky

    wow I really missed everyone. I feel a little ashamed that I was away so long. It wasn’t that I didn’t care it was just that I was really busy with work and all my extra time was spent on my SB. Then when I did pop in to lurk it seemed that I didn’t know anybody. Even noiw after being around for the past few days I have a hard time following all the posts because I don’t know the background. Anyway thanks for the welcome back. It really feels good.

    By the way has anyone heard from NYCSB, or dare I hope Beach Girl. I was kind of hoping to find them here.

  243. Stormcat says:

    I don’t think approaching is necessary. This is seeking arrangements and that fact makes any need for an approach moot. I just like kind, intelligent, respectful, open communication. An approach feels manipulative.

    Sugar success: Well it seems like I got into a fantastic arrangement going but as I’m packing up my belongings and moving out because my marriage is over it does give me pause to reconsider the cost.

  244. Anna Molly says:

    Direct for sure! Get it out of the way so we can relax and have fun!! 😀

    Hi Eric!! Good to see you!! 😀

  245. Lisa says:

    Sleep well

  246. Hey Lisa, good to see you too, hope your luck turns around soon! :)

    On another note, I’m heading to bed (2.30am here now) Good night guys

  247. Lisa says:

    Good evening Eric the Viking, SB(M) . Nice to see you.

  248. Lisa says:

    The direct aproach is best, this is a site for arrangements, not to just meet and take it slowly to see where things go. Everyone knows what they are looking for on here and we all want to get moving ahead when we find someone. Right now i’m ready to meet a new sd but my luck has ran dry. There is so much to do over here with all the nice restaraunts, movies, health club, mall, etc.

  249. I prefer direct approach being an SB, but I reckon if I was a SD I’d prefer a more subtle approach..

    Any sugar success? None lately, however to be fair I haven’t been the most active lately, but I just updated my profile, so hopefully I’ll have better luck from now on :)

  250. Midwest says:

    Red – Thank you! Did the new game work yet?

    Lisa – I did post a quick “Thanks” on the other blog. I appreciate the kindness and support :-)

  251. RedMaru says:

    Hey sugars! Hey Lisa and Midwest you decided to stay yea!(jumping up and down) I’m third how bout that?

    Onto questions
    I prefer direct that way neither one of us is wasting each others time.

    Any sugar success? Actually yes to some degree.

    Midwest have fun on your date!

  252. Midwest says:

    Do you prefer sugar that’s more subtle, or direct? I definitely prefer the more direct approach.

    Have you had any sugar success lately? Lost one potential sd, but gained an amazing and generous friend. He is giving a traditional relationship a try. We’re still meeting soon. Have a sugar date this week. Let’s see what happens…

  253. Lisa says:

    I prefer direct as it is the only thing that has worked for me. The ones that drag forever not saying what they are looking for have been time wasters.
    No sugar luck in the past month, just time wasters.