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(Political) Partying


There are only two weeks left before our Fifty Shades of LA: Sugar Masquerade Ball and we are almost sold out. Don’t forget to get your tickets or VIP bottle service before it’s too late. There is only one VIP table left and ticket prices will increase for the last time on September 15th. We won’t be selling any tickets at the door, so buy yours here, today!

For the first time ever, we are partnering with Hustler Hollywood to enhance the experience of our guests. Our Hustler-sponsored Red Room of Pain is sure to turn a few heads, especially during the “play hour” when the Hustler Honeys will be demonstrating their, um… equipment. They will be looking for volunteers to play with, so don’t be shy. Our Fifty Shades theme doesn’t stop there though. We will also be featuring an aphrodisiac-inspired catering menu: a decadent chocolate fountain and champagne for all. Remember to show up on time. There will be an open bar from 8 to 10 PM, followed by a cash bar. Remember, this is a masquerade ball and participation is encouraged. There will be members of the media present for the first few hours, so by wearing a mask you will be insuring your anonymity. Unmasking will occur at 11:00 PM after all media have left the building.

We’re always looking for new ways to promote SeekingArrangement.com, and keep the sugar bowl stocked for all those who are seeking sugar. During election season, staying relevant is a challenge, especially with the Republican National Convention last week, and the Democratic National Convention this week. As hard as it is to get a good story out there about sugar daddies and sugar babies, when everyone else is covering politics, it’s really hard to ignore half naked girls outside a political convention.

It’s also hard to ignore the fact that while the Republicans were partying in Tampa last week, we showed a 25.9% increase in traffic on SeekingArrangement.com in the Tampa area. This should be no surprise to anyone, since the majority of Sugar Daddies are Republicans and are in support of Romney for President. But, it’s definitely an interesting angle.

We are always thinking of creative ways to bring in a new crop of quality Sugar Daddies and Sugar Babies, and we will continue to find trends in the sugar bowl that relate to current events. Our membership has increased exponentially since we have ramped up our media efforts, and we hope to keep the sugar bowl well stocked with fresh sugar for your enjoyment.

Are you attending the LA Party? If not, why
How do you feel about sugar in the media?

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202 Responses to “(Political) Partying”

  1. Bella says:

    This was by far an awful event. Granted there were handsome gentlemen there and open bar until 1030, the cops coming in and shutting it down was thee most classless and ridiculous thing i have seen. Permits were not acquired by the venue which the owner of this site should have been aware of. Check and double check always know whats going on with your business!!! This to me was a classless event. They are planning another one to get it right but i for one will never go to another seeking arrangements event again. I heard something like this happened at the NY event. Weather true or not im not sure, word of mouth. Then there were sugar mommys but were they all there for the male sb? Or were some there for woman? And couldnt tell who were male sugar babys or pot SD. All messed up. To those that didnt go be glad. Waste of my time.

  2. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Hi All

    Those of you that are going, I hope you all enjoy the party tomorrow. Really envious as I am in the UK.

    Cant wait to hear all about it.

    Enjoy and have lots of fun !

    LV xx

  3. Anna Molly *1176145 * says:

    babygirl ~ Hey! Sorry, I’m just now gettin back to the blog.

    Blog Gods, please share my email with BabyGirl. 😀

    Anna Molly

  4. Tina says:

    @babygirl: I would suggest that the best way would be to go to the latest blog topic (Sugar Exit Plan) and ask the “blog gods” to exchange your e-mail with Nawty. It’s a manual process, so it may take a little bit, so please be patient :)

  5. SajJess says:

    I haven’t purchased my ticket, I probably won’t be going to the LA party even though I live in LA. I can’t afford a ticket. I’ll be spending the next few weeks in school, job hunting, and trying to pay for school. Sadly on SA there really aren’t any men looking for Black or darker skinned women. The men here, including the minority/ethnic daddies are looking for White or Asian women. Rarely you’ll see someone list Latina women. But no one is ever looking for Black sugar babies. I don’t want to give up hope but sadly I’m starting to…

  6. babygirl says:

    @ nawty Molly. Is there any way u cud email me? How do u communicate with same gender if u just have honest questions?

  7. Tina says:

    @PhoneGuy aka Smoochie Bear: I’m glad you like the ridiculous little moniker that I will now call you for quite a while. Sucka. And as far as NSA, I know that for me it’s not something that I can do long term. But it fits with what I have going on in my life now. And if I find the right person, I would have no problem adding a few strings in the right places 😉 It just depends on where we both are in our lives. Hope this helps a little with your conundrum. :) And don’t forget that if you hop off the blog, that you owe me your e-mail just so I can harass you in January when it’s a “cold” 60ish degrees here….MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  8. Simplicity says:

    Phoneguy- most guys on here that I have come across are also looking for more than NSA and for many women that works.If you are happy and your sb is happy that is all that matters. Congrats on your upcoming anniversary.

  9. Stormcat says:

    PhoneGuy ~ Hey dude! Great posts You always did like to mix it up and make sense out of nonsense. I don’t even have enough respect for John and his rediculous situation to comment. I just feel sorry that his daughter didn’t get enough real parenting to be able to know what real value is in life. Well now I’m being judgemental, , , my bad!

  10. PhoneGuy says:

    Thank you ILoveWestCoastGirl.

    @ SexySA,
    Sorry, I missed your question.
    After my wife died I dated a women who wanted to have a lot of input into how my kids were raised (and wanted to hear no input into how to raise her kids). When that went sour I heard about this site and thought it sounded perfect. NSA relationship (she won’t tell me how to raise my kids, probably won’t even meet them. Plus I have a busy work life and don’t have a ton of time for searching), beautiful women and I didn’t know if I would be as valued on Match as on here.

    Even as my SB and I approach our 6 month anniversary I don’t know if this site is for me. I don’t know if I’m compatible with NSA. I’m probably more comfortable looking for a girl who wants a generous, well-off boyfriend.

    How about you? What made you sign up here?

  11. PhoneGuy says:

    There’s nothing to do now. He’s already raised her to have the values she has.
    Nothing to do but lie in the bed he has made. If that were my daughter I would tell her the same things I wrote above. She’ll probably ignore it because her new life seems like fun and it probably feels like she is getting free money. Maybe she’ll think about it again when her SD gets bored and dumps her for the next one. Maybe she’ll think about it again when her boobs start to sag and getting an SD gets a bit harder.

    I don’t think you can convince people of ideas they aren’t ready to hear. She’ll just say “my dad doesn’t understand” or “he doesn’t respect my decisions” or some crap. 10 years from now she’ll probably realize he was trying to do what was best for her.

    Having kids is the torture of watching those you love having to live with the results of their stupid decisions. :-)

  12. JustAThought SD says:

    @Phone Guy

    Her real daddy tried to start her on the path of fiscal responsibility at 18. Maybe he should have had her take a paper route at 16, but he’s gonna have to live with today.

    Hurt? This girl isn’t hurting for anything.

    Lifestyle? I see so many sb profiles at 30+ that are at square one, with no sugar daddy, and no job for whatever reason. Her real daddy IS still in the picture. This girl has a great starting point and safety net.

    Skillset? She obviously knows how to set a goal and go after it. She didn’t pick a fake sd, or end up going through alot of crap that many sb’s had to go through before discovering that there are helpful men known as real sd’s. She’s not just young and pretty, but has 2 financiers already if she’s smart.

    She’s starting to learn how to pay bills and manage money. Real daddy’s not going to disown her so that means he can help her learn other things along the way like connections,finances,influence, and life lessons. Sugar daddy can additionally supply these things as well.

    Shield her? SD’ing has been going on long before the internet appeared. You drop any good looking legal age girl into a room full of older men with disposible income, and you won’t be able to shield anything. Some will want her to be a prostitute or escort. Some will want sex in exchange for a fake movie deal. Some will want her to be a mistress, girlfriend, fwb, or even wife. Older businessmen (especially lawyers and salesmen) are experts at identifying what you want/need and manipulating you with it. Legal or moral compasses are not always included in all business deals. Lock her in the basement if you like, but I still don’t think that’ll work in the long run.

    I was only brash regarding any notion that he would disown his daughter over something that was already done, which he would have to be f-ing nuts to do. I never post anything for people to agree or disagree, I merely offer my own perspective, and peruse those of others. I see alot of people judging him and her, which is ok by me, but 190 posts and I still can’t get an answer to MY question:

    Pop Quiz Hotshot: Same situation, you’re the dad and the biz associate wont back off after you just found out about their secret 3 months into the arrangement/relationship…what would you do? Any of you SD’s out there with daughters that can actually give some real input as to what you would have tried? (No bs platitudes, and No time travelling to do anything different. How would you deal with today?)

  13. PhoneGuy says:

    Hey Tina! Hey… I like being called smoochie bear. 😉

  14. Tina says:

    @Phone Guy: My little smoochie bear! You’re back! I’ve missed you! :) (Anyone ready to throw up yet, ’cause I think I threw up a little in my mouth just typing that)


  15. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Phone guy.

    You are so smart.

  16. SexySA says:


    Interesting post. I agree with you.

    So, I’m assuming you’re a SD. What inspired you to become one.?

  17. SexySA says:

    I wish that I could attend (sold out tickets). I live in Chicago and would really love to attend this event. Anywho, good luck to all of the SB’s going.

  18. PhoneGuy says:

    Wow, time to annoy some people. Sorry, I love you all but I can be a bit judgmental. 😉

    John’s post is very interesting and has sparked a lot of controversy. I know we are all reading a lot into this based on our own background and experiences. I can’t resist adding my own viewpoint.

    People have their owns reasons for becoming an SD or an SB. Some I think are more valid than others. An 18 year old girl getting an SD to pay for college because her family can’t makes sense. She has a plan and a purpose. Having a plan in life will give you a much better chance in life of choosing your own course instead of having it chosen for you.

    Becoming an SB because you want expensive shoes or want to eat at nice places or you don’t want to go to school or model is fine. It’s a plan and you know what you’re getting. The problem is that it isn’t a long term strategy. You can’t be an SB forever (please just give me this one and don’t argue it) and as soon as you stop you can’t support the lifestyle to which you have become accustom.

    Does she plan on marrying her new Daddy? At least that is a long term strategy. Otherwise she is just delaying starting her adult life by finding a new guy to pay for stuff. The ewww factor is that she is having sex with her new “daddy” in return for being kept in this childlike state.

    Of course, THIS beholder’s opinion is if it’s legal, and not hurting anyone
    Well I would say it is hurting someone.

    This young lady has a skillset which will already put her ahead of many 18-30′s.
    Skillset? Can you describe her skills? Being young and pretty is not a skillset. It’s a temporary state of being that absolutely will not last. Being brash is also not a skill. How is she ahead of her peers and women 12 years her senior? Unless she marries her SD or her father dies, she will put back into life X years from now, X years behind her peers.

    I think she’s a smart girl that knew how to jump right into the celebrity lifestyle,
    Celebrity lifestyle? I think I want to throw up. She’s not a celebrity. There is nothing to be celebrated by people living glamorous lifestyles through no effort of their own.

    My daughter was shielded from this growing up. But when she keeps seeing stuff…
    Dude, I don’t know where you live but I am curious how she could have seen this so much that she thought it was her best option. I’m sure all girls have incidental contact and knowledge of the SB lifestyle. I’m going to call foul here and suggest that she probably wasn’t shielded.

    Good luck John.

  19. rebecca says:

    Thank you for the input you guys! I still haven’t found a sugar-daddy but the more communication and research I do, my confidence and knowledge grows. :)

  20. SP-sd says:

    @Nawty Molly — yes you deserve what you are seeking, and I hope you find it.

    -an old friend

  21. VASD says:

    @Sasha Congrats. Just took a peek at the new you–the whole profile looks so much better. It’s that attention to detail. YOU always looked fabulous : )

  22. NC Gent says:

    I actually find women in their 30s the most appealing. Finding an SB in her 30s with a schedule sufficiently flexible for travel during the week is almost as difficult as finding a unicorn — therefore, I end up pursuing SBs in the mid- to late-20s, which presents a whole new set of challenges!

  23. Sasha says:

    VASD, Thank you soooooooo -oooo-ooo (hehe) much!! I went ahead and revamped my WHOLE profile and all I can say is RESULTS!

    Muaahh xoxoxoxo

  24. VASD says:

    @rebecca I think what attracts men is going to vary by individual. I’m mid-40s. My ‘sweet spot’ for SBs is the 25-30 range, but I have had fun flings with ladies as young as 21 and as old as 57.

  25. Lady Vuitton says:

    Thanks for the welcome SD4One x :-)

  26. JustAThought SD says:


    What makes me a hypocrite is that I can understand John’s situation and that he made the best of it, while at the same time I wouldn’t want my daughters to be sb’s. ( I guess mainly because I would rather them have long-term traditional marriages to loving, caring, respectful, affluent men, rather than temporary arrangements. I’m old school when it comes to that stuff.)

    re: 18y.o. sb’s
    Of course, physical maturity is not a direct reflection of any other maturity, whether mental, emotional, or spiritual. It will all boil down to the individual. You know this. Just look at some of the sd’s that send emails like that one to 2chic above.

  27. SD4ONE says:

    “Don’t 18 year old girls look just a little too young?”
    Yes. Maybe not if you’re a 22 year-old guy but I’ll bet most men on this site are a little closer to my 55.

    “what is the prime age for sugar babies, and for female beauty? Is it around 19? What is the end-of-the-line, around 30?”
    In this one man’s opinion – the prime age for women (from a male attraction perspective) is mid 40’s. I’ve dated women from SA ranging in age from 29 – no common interests, 39 – really nice arrangements and dates with two 39 year-olds, 43 and 57. 43 y.o. and I decided against an arrangement but remain friends. 57 y.o. no chemistry. Also a 31 y.o. that was probably the nicest and certainly the longest arrangement. She was mature beyond her years and a real princess (in the true sense of the word).

    BUT – appearance-wise the 39 y.o.’s and especially the 43 y.o. were the most beautiful of the group. There’s something so appealing about a woman who has lived a little. 18 y.o.’s just don’t have the same appeal.

  28. rebecca says:

    oh and to the guy who says he’s a hypocrite when it comes to his children- if you believe, as I do, that there is nothing wrong with being a sugar baby, would you mind your daughter becoming one while she is pursuing her education? As opposed to dating whatever other guys she might pick. I understand fathers are very critical of their childrens’ romantic choices regardless

  29. rebecca says:

    Do tastes in female beauty stop maturing at a certain point? 14 year olds think other 14 year olds are super hot, but once everyone has grown to adulthood, does the curve just flatten out? Do tastes in women not continue to mature as people age, albeit slowly? How much more attractive is an 18 year old girl than a 30 year old? Britney was once a huge sex symbol, now she would barely turn heads. Is that always how it is?

  30. rebecca says:

    Don’t 18 year old girls look just a little too young? I mean they are grown but just barely. Their brains haven’t finished developing (until 23). And when you look in their face, they resemble children. Is that attractive to all grown, adult, middle-aged men? I’ve come to believe that it is I guess. But 18 year old have barely finished adolescence, do older women with knowledge and wit possess less charm and attraction? Or is it just a different kind of attraction? Would a sugar daddy prefer a girl he knew as a child – somehow not continue to see her as that child – at 18, than a woman with experience and sophistication but a slightly less-fresh face, slightly saggier body? Or are visuals and youthful appearance really just such a powerful stimulant for men that they overpower every other quality. Also what is the prime age for sugar babies, and for female beauty? Is it around 19? What is the end-of-the-line, around 30?

  31. SassyInMass says:

    ‘confused’ I meant there at the end

  32. SassyInMass says:

    Whether or not to shield your children from the sugar world is a nice turn of topic! Lets all comment on that instead of John’s daughter story 😀 I shield my kids from any of my dating, sugared or not. I use nongender pronouns around them (theyre picking me up at 6, we’re going to Fenway on Fri) Its every parents choice how to or even if they let their kids know theyre dating- for me its a No. Especially in the teen and preteen yrs when they should be preoccupied with how and who they want to date – I dont want them to be worried or confuse abt Mom’s dating. Its just not my time, its theirs

  33. John says:

    My daughter was shielded from this growing up. But when she keeps seeing stuff like whenever we would go out to eat at a nice restaurant there would be a few tables over a rich, older man having a dinner date with a girl half his age – eventually she starts figuring things out on her own. Plus her friends would tell her stories, and then, of course, there’s the internet – where all is laid bare to the world. Eventually by the time she was into her teens, she understood full well what was going on around her – even with me working at shielding it from her. So it simply became completely pointless to keep hiding it from her anymore.

    As a parent I know it is a nice ideal – that you want to build a cocoon around your children, to always keep them safe and never expose them to any of the less than noble aspects of real life. But also as a parent I know full well, through experience, that no matter how hard you try, that this is just not possible – especially in today’s world of smart phones, wi-fi, and all the rest.

  34. vyopi says:

    hey to all of u.

  35. AnnaMW says:


    ““There are tons of girls on this site who would love to be in my daughter’s shoes.”

    While that may be true, I’m not sure if that’s something to be proud of as a parent.”

    We all have our sad stories behind why we came to be an SD or SB. Usually that story isn’t one that we would want for our children. It makes sense that John and his child are in this situation, and he freely admits that its probably as a result of his questionable lifestyle choices following a personal tragedy. If I had children and were active in sugar, I would do whatever I could to shelter them from the reality so that they could have as normal a life as possible. I’ve agreed with nearly every point you’ve made on this subject. Its good to be back!

  36. SD4ONE says:

    “In real life its very inappropriate to suggest a SD relationship, when the guy wants to date me. On this site, where its spelled out, it seems extremely difficult for me.”

    You’re having no trouble finding guys interested in dating relationships but you really want a SD relationship. Couldn’t a date turn into a caring, supportive relationship? Is it only through a SD relationship that you can get the financial support you need/want or do you want to avoid commitment, feelings, etc. that come with dating? Curious.

    @Lady Vuitton
    Hi and welcome. I hope you enjoy the site and have the time you’re hoping for.

  37. Tina says:

    Oh JustAThoughtSD: what you DON’T know about me could be dangerous to your health 😉 Or beneficial……hehehehe…… And what kind of movies are you watching wherever you are? SHEESH! :)

  38. Lady Vuitton says:

    Hi Everyone. Just wanted to say I have enjoyed reading your comments and have found them interesting and thought provoking.

    I have just joined and aiming to have the time of my life this coming year. Please feel free to say hello to me. Cant make too many friends.

    Enjoy x

  39. 2Chic says:

    Thank you for clarifying, and there’s no hard feelings at all . ; -). I am not holding my breath. LOL Can’t miss what I never had.
    Life in OC, physically when out and about, there’s no lack in attention, flirts, and request to take me out to dinner. In real life its very inappropriate to suggest a SD relationship, when the guy wants to date me. On this site, where its spelled out, it seems extremely difficult for me.

  40. SD4ONE says:

    My comments were meant in jest – should be using more smiley faces I guess. :-) I didn’t mean to offend – sorry if I did.

    I’m also sorry that the creeps are finding you but, as you say, better on line then at your front door. As SassyInMass says – they’re everywhere!!

    Good luck. Keep your chin up and realize that the creeps are out there but so are nice guys, legitimate SD’s and proper gentlemen. Sounds like it’s about time you met a good one. Surely Orange County has some of the latter group?!?

  41. SassyInMass says:

    Idiot emails are not a SD thing. Every dating site, bdsm site, even myspace is filled with guys sending trash hoping to get some ass. I left other sb sites because they were charging girls/sb $$ for membership or to respond to emails. I stay on here because its free, I imagine many other sbs feel the same?

  42. Transgendered Emily says:

    I can’t bring myself to vote for Obama. Just can’t. I think Romney’s a good choice since he’s obviously good with money, and his business smarts could possibly get us out of this recession.

  43. 2Chic says:

    Birds of a feather my A$$, I am class and style. To see me is to know I am not that kind of girl and would never tolerate such . Maybe its is my location and exotic look. Not many with such a look in a vanilla Orange County, CA. There are creeps every where and women encounter them all the time. I guess I would rather it be online than in person. But thanks for such a positive input!

  44. VASD says:

    @flyr As per my earlier post, I thought the SA-Hustler tie a bad idea as well. Will also attract more of the whack-job SDs the ladies here are complaining about above.

    I have a 20yo daughter–not sure I’d want to know all the details, but wouldn’t be too upset if she wanted to do the SD-SB thing. Just would hope she’d be smart about it. She had a 32yo boyfriend–my main complaint about him was not so much his age but that he was too old to be such the loser that he was.

  45. flyr says:

    I think we are pretending there is this huge gulf between the reality of life and the sugar world. The “real world” is filled with women dating men whom they would not date if they were poor. They migrate towards toys, best clubs, great trips etc. Others migrate to older mentor figures for any of a number of reasons including escape from the world of beer pong and guys who have not figured out the concept of ladies first.

    If I had a daughter I might feel some unease with her having a SD who was helping pay for her college or making her single mother world easier. However, I would feel much more unease if she was running with the crowd I used to see up in Hollywood most every evening when we were working on a project up there. That doesn’t even begin to match the party life on LA’s westside where drugs are so common and you are what your drive and what you snort.

    I’m a great fan of the classy, intelligent SB . I was thus appalled at the tie in between SA and Hustler for the LA party………….

  46. VASD says:

    @2chic 400%??? What…he wants to chop you into 4 different parts?? Sheesh…

  47. Miss D says:

    @2chic, but honestly you will get a lot of these crazy losers, I have been in the sugar bowl since Feb. With that, I have encountered some crazy ass men.So I know what your going through. I don’t think it’s bad luck, it just takes a lot of time when your looking for quality. Also the sugar bowl is such a funny thing, you can go from ZERO pots. for like 4months and in one month have 3 pot sds at once. Also, thanks for the congrats. I am so grateful because it came to the point I was going to end my search. Searching for an sd while starting an intensive grad. program is not cool. However, things just worked out. I met two pot. sds.One was the long term guy looking for the 1 woman to treat well, and spend time with. The other a fancy car driving, handsome looking man in his mid 40s who drops money like it;s nothing. Both were great, but decided to go with the long term nice gentleman. However, months ago I would not have any choice in that matter. Also, I did not meet them here on this site. Long term guy on a other site, and the fancy car guy in some upscale restaurant and bar in person. So, hopefully you have fun at the party.
    @John, yes, it;s true I think it’s safe to say that a lot of sbs would want to be in your daughter’s position, Good luck to her.

  48. JustAThought SD says:


    Your comment reminds me of a line from a movie, and the response.

    Girl: If I gave you a little piece of this cookie, my cookie would break you in half.
    Guy: Maybe, but that would be some long division…long.

    You should be happy that I’m not trying to get you addickted.

  49. JustAThought SD says:

    It was only after I assumed alot of what you are now bringing to light, that I better understood the situation. Which prompted my last few posts regarding this.

    Not everyone will understand, even with the post you just created. When and if their daughter becomes an sb, I guess we’ll find out how they handled it. Some of them don’t even realize that by being an sb or sd, the chances of their daughters becoming sb’s may increase.

    As I said in my last post, I hope that both of you are happy and doing well.

  50. John says:

    I think I really have to clarify a few things because of all the mistaken assumptions going on.

    First, regarding her Sugar Daddy. I have referred to him several times as an “associate” because that’s the best term to describe him. He’s more than a stranger, but less than a friend. What other word could I have used? An “acquaintance”? He’s not some business partner or anything like that. He’s just a guy that , because we’re in the same line of work, we happened to have moved within the same circles for many years. So, naturally, we know one another. And that’s also how he and my daughter met.

    Honestly, its hard to imagine any potential Daddy that my daughter would know but I didn’t. What’s more, if someone were to hold a gun to my head and told me I had to pick a Sugar Daddy for my daughter and my two choices were between a man I was familiar with and knew he would take good care of her OR a complete stranger she met through an anonymous website – I’m going to pick the guy I’m familiar with every single time.

    Second, I never once said I was going to deny her the financial support she needed, and thus driving her into the need to become a Sugar Baby. All I said is that once she became an adult I expected her to start showing some personal financial responsibility. In fact, the plan we discussed (and the one I preferred) was when she started her modelling career, she would still live at home, but pitch in some money every month to help cover her room and board. Not because I needed it in any way, but as a lesson in maturity for her. I was going to secretly invest the money she gave me. Then, when she eventually moved out, present it to her as a gift. My parents did the exact same thing with me when I was her age, and it didn’t cause me to run away and join a gang or anything like that.

    And she wasn’t going to go to college or start her own business or anything like that. She was going to get into modelling. But as I said, she discussed it with some actual working models and realized that its a career with zero sense of stability. You’re constantly running all over the place, at all hours of the day and night. And when you’re not doing that, you’re hunting for your next job. While a small, select few make it, the vast majority end up spending most of their time out of work and broke. Essentially it is no different than a career in acting. And while her becoming a model might have been more conventional, I don’t know if overall it would have been “better.”

    Third, just because I’m now supportive of her being a Baby, doesn’t mean that I was like that right from the start. The last few months have been an emotional roller coaster for me. I have gone through all the stages: denial, anger, bargaining, grief. Because I have finally moved on to acceptance, don’t assume I always felt that way.

    Lastly, her helping to find a Baby for me was entirely her idea. She knows I’m lonely and so she wants to find a companion for me. I don’t know if anything will come of it, but I recognize it is a nice gesture on her part.

    I’ve learned something about my daughter since this whole experience began. She grew up in an environment where not only I was in a Sugar relationship, but there were always Daddies and their Babies around. So she considers Sugar relationships perfectly normal. Therefore, in her own mind, she sees nothing odd with her decision to become a Baby or her helping to find a Baby for her father.

    There are tons of girls on this site who would love to be in my daughter’s shoes. So I try to see that as a plus for her.

    • SD Guru says:


      Thanks for the clarification. It didn’t change my opinion but it did provide more insight into the situation. I thought this was very telling:

      “She grew up in an environment where not only I was in a Sugar relationship, but there were always Daddies and their Babies around.”

      It seems that she became a SB mainly because that’s what she knows. I wonder how many on the blog would want their child to grow up in that environment.

      “There are tons of girls on this site who would love to be in my daughter’s shoes.”

      While that may be true, I’m not sure if that’s something to be proud of as a parent.

  51. SD4ONE says:

    Where are you located? Any chance you just happen to be in a part of the world where attitudes to women are little bit behind “us civilized types?” :-)

  52. SD4ONE says:

    Why are you getting spammed this way? I dunno – there are strange birds in every flock. They just seem attracted to your nest. Birds of a feather…..no, no….no steam left in this bird theme.

    Would this strangeness stop if it wasn’t 10 to 1 females to males on this site? I know this is not a popular topic amongst the guys but, holy catfish it’s a little strange to have this imbalance. Maybe SB’s should start to pay to join too? Would the weird comments stop if guys knew there were less women to move on to once they’ve weirded one out?

  53. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    To GURU.

    guru if you are 40 y old, you can easily have 20 y old daughter . :)

    Why too young? to have a teenager daughter.

  54. 2Chic says:

    @Tina, Thanks. Its just makes me all cautious. You know there was this one fella whom contacted me, I thought he was cool, we commenced to IM and he starts all that same type of talk. Its a total turn off. Do they really think all women want to have a dialogue such as that.

    I am not a an escort, and sometimes I think some of these guys actually think all the women on the site are.

  55. Tina says:

    @JustAThoughtSD: if I were to do that, you’d be begging for me to borrow your passion on a daily basis. And I think that you’re a little out of my reach at the moment, unless…….WOW!

  56. JustAThought SD says:


    Feel free to borrow some of that passion. You’ll have pull on this vending handle for it to dispense. Sometimes the handle gets stuck and you may have to work it for a bit. Warmth and moisture usually gets it unstuck most easily, so if you have anything that fits that description, please position it directly on the handle.(Oops,did that sound dirty?)

  57. JustAThought SD says:

    @John and @Jessie

    This is the last post I’ll make on the subject. Simply because, I think every aspect has been covered.

    John, you made it through a complex situation, and your daughter is fine. The relationship you have with her is mended. And it seems like she’ll be able to make it in the world without you if that day ever comes. Seeing your actions as degenerate or perverse seems inaccurate to me. In fact, we both know that it really doesn’t matter what anyone on this blog thinks of you or your daughter. I think she’s a smart girl that knew how to jump right into the celebrity lifestyle, rather than being a typical 18yo slaving away at mcdonald’s only to realize that real jobs suck. Kudos to her, and I hope the both of you are doing well.

    Rant over.

  58. Tina says:

    @2Chic: more than likely it’s someone who sends out SPAM to a certain demographic (i.e. age, area, etc). You are probably not the only one who has gotten something from this person. I’ve gotten SPAM like this too, and just ignore it. Disgusting? Yes. But I just ignore it; it’s kind of like a favorite saying on the blog: don’t feed the trolls.

    @JustAThoughtSD: It’s always good to be passionate about something. Some days I need a little jolt of passion – life can be a little dull with a routine. And that wasn’t meant to be dirty, although I’m sure it will take a downward spiral soon 😉 So, since you’re passionate today, can I borrow some of it? I promise I’ll be nice! >:)

  59. 2Chic says:

    @ Jessie
    I don’t care if he is fake or not, it confirms all I stated. Its absolutely disgusting and not sure why guys like this contact me. I don’t even have a body shot for public viewing. All my profile shows is a face close up. I share this for those who did not believe what I stated previously.

  60. Jessie says:

    @ 2Chic – That’s sooo totally fake it’s not even worth reading.

    @JAT SD – It amazes me that YOU’RE the only one who read John’s post and saw a vent, or a SD “going through something.” LOL. John posted because he felt “compelled to share his story.” He sounded very proud of his daughter for having found a way to become financially independent of him. Didn’t sound for a second like he needed anyone’s shoulder to cry on.

  61. Grasshopper says:

    Tina!!! YEP…I’m one sassy little bit…um, er, minx…yeah, yeah, that’s it! I’m one sassy little minx!…
    heh ;P

    Great to see you!

  62. 2Chic says:

    Why!!!!!! :-(

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  64. JustAThought SD says:


    I’m passionate about certain things and I guess this really made me wonder what I’d do if my daughters put me in a “trick bag” like that.

  65. JustAThought SD says:


    I just think it’s a double standard. When an sb comes on and says their going through something, we rally, cheer, etc.

    An sd comes on, admits he encountered a bad situation, we say “it’s yer own dern fault” or “sucks to be you”

  66. 2Chic says:

    I think I am unlucky
    There so many dirty minded creeps on the site. I met one fella who promised sooo much and never followed through at all. I fell for the charm, and ended up really liking him. He just uses the site as bait. He is still an active member on this site.

    @Miss D.
    Thank you. And Congrats.

  67. Tina says:

    @Grassy: you sassy little minx! Good to see ya again girlie! :)

  68. Tina says:

    @JustAThoughtSD: this is the most verbose I’ve ever seen you. Hmmmmm……

  69. Grasshopper says:

    @JustAThoughtSD – Methinks thou dost protest too much. O_o

  70. Sasha says:

    @ VASD

    Thank you soooo much!

  71. JustAThought SD says:


    You wrote:
    Anyway, not everyone’s kids are going to be how their parents wanted them to turn out, and no matter the logic behind it, she could be into a LOT worse things. But in the end, thank god she isn’t my daughter, and it is John going through this!

    To me, this is the heart of John’s original post. He is going through this, and I’m sure he feels/felt alot of conflicting emotions. I don’t think he put it up there for shock value. And I know it’s a sticky situation that most sd’s would hopefully avoid.

    Since you are an SD, I’m curious to see how you may have handled it differently if your daughter had come to you with this secret. (Sorry, sb’s but you see things differently than me.)

  72. JustAThought SD says:

    @Grasshopper and @SD Guru

    re: Financial Support

    It surprises me that you think this is “either my daughter or my sb gets this money.” This family isn’t the usual lower-middle-class that lives paycheck-to-paycheck. He didn’t send her out sb’ing or hooking to support his own sb habit. His choice to cut back his daughter’s support was not based on his lack of money. Her choice to become an sb probably was not influenced by the financial cutback. (And perhaps the relationship is closer to what WCSD mentioned.) More than likely she’s been entitled most of her life, and his cutting back on the finances is to prepare her to start doing things on her own. He didn’t limit her to getting a job at the mall. He let her do it on her own, and this is what she chose after modelling.

  73. JustAThought SD says:

    @SD Guru

    The nuts idea would be disowning his daughter over such trivial bs. Not to appear more sane, or to make my “case” more compelling. Laughable.

    1. If he did have a prob w/her being an sb what would he do? Ground her? Not take her to chuck e cheese this weekend? Send her to her room?

    2. As I said before, since it seems you didn’t take the time to read my last post,(yes I know it was long,) the point of cutting back her financial support was not to force her to become an sb. It was simply the choice of his daughter. If any other parent had done the same thing, any other 18yo may have started working at burger king. This young lady has a skillset which will already put her ahead of many 18-30’s. Secondly, she did this on her own. She used all the sb tips which can be found in this blog to land who she felt was the best fit for her. I don’t think it really mattered to her that it was her dad’s biz guy.

    3. Not to say there is NO control at all, but honestly, I’m sincerely curious as to what your tactic would be in the same situation? Would you sternly request your associate to stop seeing her? Would you tell his wife? Keep in mind they’ve been talking for months before John even knew.

    4. I don’t know if your parents are still together, but I would hope that if your mom or dad was lonely (and separated) that you’d try to help them find happiness.(Not necessarily from your own stables but hey whatever.)

    • SD Guru says:

      @JustAThought SD

      Let’s take it off the blog and I’d be happy to discuss/debate/argue this issue with you over a beer. I understand nothing I say will change your mind, and vice versa, so let’s just respectfully agree to disagree and let the blog move on to more important topics. You’ve got mail with my response to your recent posts.

  74. Tina says:

    @VASD: thanks for the open mindedness :)

  75. WCSD says:

    @Guru – I couldn’t agree more with your points. John seems to have conflicting statements. He can’t control who she sees (agreed), but is concerned that she is a sugar baby for an associate. If she is truly a SB, then it doesn’t make sense (give her the money and be done with it), but if she is dating him because she likes him, and he is providing assistance because he is a nice guy, then John has little control, but I wouldn’t necessarily consider that a sugar relationship (at least how John commented on it to start). And someone can learn how to budget, manage their money, etc. from their father’s money, not just from a job, or a sugar daddy…

    Anyway, not everyone’s kids are going to be how their parents wanted them to turn out, and no matter the logic behind it, she could be into a LOT worse things. But in the end, thank god she isn’t my daughter, and it is John going through this!

  76. Grasshopper says:

    @SD Guru – Excellent points! I cannot understand how John would have NO problem providing for a SB..but there IS a problem providing for his flesh and blood?…WEIRD!

  77. SassyInMass says:

    Congrats Danielle! Hope 2nd date is even better! I handle stares with smiles or a calm look back. Sometimes I’ll even pull the look you up and down, like Im evaluating their outfit or something

  78. Jessie says:

    @NC Gent – I do feel incredibly special indeed…lol. I’ve been checking the blog on and off just to see if you’d gotten my email yet, and had thought about doing just what you did….only I couldn’t come up with a “cute email address” hahahaha. Will send you a note sometime today ;).

    • SD Guru says:

      @JustAThought SD
      “ARE Y’ALL F-ING NUTS??”

      Um… no. And by accusing others of being nuts it doesn’t make you seem more sane nor make your case more compelling! :mrgreen:

      At the risk of repeatedly beating a dead horse (which I don’t normally do), let me summarize my position:

      1. I have no issue with John’s daughter choosing to be a SB. So please save all those arguments about consenting adults, etc.
      2. The issue I’ve been articulating is regarding John’s decision to not provide the financial support she needs, thus causing her to consider the sugar lifestyle as an alternative form of support.
      3. The notion that when someone turns 18 it automatically means the parent has no control/influence/responsibility is a fallacy.
      4. The rest of the story about her SD being his business associate, and he’s tapping her SB network to find himself a SB… well, that’s just adding fuel to the fire!

      I’ll offer two “what if” scenarios as food for thought:

      1. If John provides all the financial support his daughter needs, would she still choose to be a SB?
      2. If John had to choose between providing financial support for a SB or for his daughter, which one should he choose?

  79. travelersb says:

    you are so cute NC Gent and Jessie :)

  80. NC Gent says:

    @Jessie — I made an email account just for you – I hope that makes you feel very special :) here it is: emforjessie at hot mail dot com

    Blog Gods — if you disapprove of this post, feel free to exchange our email addresses the more conventional way – thanks!

  81. VASD says:

    @Sasha You’re a pretty lady. Nice pics–pretty and classy. In my (humble) opinion, your profile may be a bit wordy. You might also want to clean up your grammar and spelling. Informal is ok, but, even so, I think you might be better served if you cleaned things up a bit (to match your classy pics). A pot SD might like tha attention to detail and think it would apply in other areas. : )

  82. VASD says:

    @Tina No offense taken at all from our Friday exchange. And I have no issue whatsoever that you would feel uncomfortable dating someone married. The beauty of the SA site and similar such situations is that each can sort out their wants and wishes and find someone compatible–provided everyone is truthful and upfront with the info they choose to provide.

  83. Russian says:

    to John :
    (sorry for my broken English – not native language)
    I have not popular opinion here, but you must be proud of your doughter !
    She is smart and clever girl. I am also from a good family, it brings pain to
    my parents, to realise that I date mayor assistant (not married) and other my connections,
    not always it possible to hide, you know. Better for them if I date some junky boy.
    Woman is ALWAYS used in any relationship , I accept marriage or Sugar lifestyle,everything elseis immoral :)
    Sure your dougter, having wealthy father, able to date some sweet student,
    but she is too clever, what you can do about ? Nothing :)

  84. Miss D says:

    BIG Hello to everyone,
    @John- I understand what you mean, I totally agree with your last post. I know what you mean, teenagers can be hard headed. I just hope that this personal situation does not mesh into business if the relationship between your associate and daughter ever go sour. wish you and your daughter luck

    @ Danielle- just ignore the stares. I personally don’t get many of them. If me and pot sds or whoever are out, people I guess assume that I’m the guys assistant, associate, or whatever. However, I guess 1. I naturally dress conservatively 2. I have always met them within business hours so I guess that’s the reason.

    @ 2chic- yes, be patient, and continue to do your thing. I personally felt the same way you felt like 3 weeks ago. However, I am happy to announce that I’m officially in a arrangement with an awesome SD. The bonus for me, is I did not have to talk about money stuff, he brought it up, and on the first date he just slipped something in my folder that I had and said I hope I see you again. When I got home the gift was enough to pay my rent to my parents. I have received my allowance in full with no pressure in cash. And time flys by when I’m with him. The one thing is he is married ( at least legally, lol), which I never wanted. However, it has worked out perfectly. So, sometimes you do have to bend a little bit to find what you are looking for. No one is perfect. So, we should see what happens in the future.

  85. JustAThought SD says:

    Sorry John, I was writing my post while you were posting this new one, or else I would have just let yours stand.

  86. JustAThought SD says:

    @SD Guru @Grassy @Jessie and @Everyone

    Enabled her to become an SB?? My friends, you are confused, and have missed the point of the original post, and my previous post. She’s 18. Once she’s legal, what are you going to do to stop her from seeing him? Or vice versa. She’s known this man all her life, and may have always had a crush on him. John’s trying to make the best of an awkward situation. As a model, she wouldn’t have focused on college either. (You know how many broke “models” we have on this site, both with and without degrees.) But if the story would have ended with “she became a model in my associate’s agency”, most of you wouldn’t have given it another thought.(Whether or not John had influenced the modeling gig.) I honestly don’t believe he attempted to “pimp her out” to his biz associate as an sb or otherwise. I’m sorry I even made the allusion as to the possibility of him having an ulterior motive. I really meant it more as a jest than as a fact. John, I’m sorry for the implication. The comment in the original post –“It has also worked out for me.” refers to the fact that his daughter is an sb with sb friends. It DOES NOT refer to the situation between him and the associate because of the sb relationship with the daughter.

    And as far as starting to pull her own weight at 18, the operative word is START. He didn’t ask her specifically to move out and completely support herself. (I personally knew friends that didn’t have wealth that were put out of the house at 18. Both guys and girls.) What’s she need a regular job for? She has a wealthy real daddy, and wealthy sugar daddy. Technically, in a wealthy environment all she has to do is marry well, and she could be a sugarmomma later if the marriage fell through.(Or re-marry well.) She has started her quasi-career as a sugarbaby at the top, and has beat out 1000’s of would-be applicants. If John can teach his daughter how to handle her money (someday his money), be a good person, and what will be expected of her as a good companion, his daughter will lead the life that the majority of you are busting your asses for decades just to attain. She didn’t become an sb or jump on the associate just because daddy said you have to start making your own way. She did it because she liked the associate, and he’s got money, and he’s married, and she’s hot, and she’s got skills….basically, she did it because she can.

    There is NOTHING degenerate about John refusing to disown his daughter because she chose an older man to hang out with, that JUST HAPPENS to be his associate.ARE Y’ALL F-ING NUTS?? Hanging out with older men is the sugarbaby way. John came here to vent about something that he has no control over, but we all twisted the hell out of it. We are NOT talking about a child here. We’re talking about a grown woman. Thinking your daughter would be off limits to a co-worker/associate once she’s 18/21 is simply foolish. Especially if she makes the first move. (And if she knows mommy is an sb, you’ll be lucky she’s not banging your boss at work on his lunchbreak.)

    Once again, John, I apologize for my part in this misunderstanding.

  87. John says:

    Here is my final post on the subject. Many on here seem to be under the impression that when my daughter decided to become a Sugar Baby, that she gave me some choice in the matter. But believe me, that girl can be extremely hard-headed when she wants to be! I was dead set against it.

    Since then, she’s been in this relationship for a few months now. She’s happy being with him and the situation is what it is. I was tired of having arguments with my only child, and decided I just had to accept it. So I have tried to do what a parent does – support her and attempt to find the good in it.

    Regarding hypocrisy. As I have said, I have been a Sugar Daddy myself. I’ve even had an 18 yo Baby in the past. I never once thought I was exploiting her or using her. Quite the opposite. I was caring for her and helping her. And through the years I have know plenty of others who have been in SD/SB relationships. Circumstances with my daughter have forced me to take a hard look in the mirror. If I was perfectly fine with all these other Sugar relationships, why did it upset me so much when it was my own daughter? And if this was any other girl, I would have not only accepted it without hesitation, I would have also encouraged it. So I have tried to widen my perspective.

  88. Grasshopper says:

    @JustAThoughtSD – Keep this up and I’ll slap you with Contempt of Court.

  89. JustAThought SD says:


    I guess it’s YOUR opinion that I was asking for an apology? Or was it YOUR opinion that with the lovely mouth in her avatar pic that she couldn’t speak for herself?

    LMAO, I didn’t ask for an apology from Grasshopper. Grasshopper knows that an apology won’t be given, nor is needed, on either side. That’s what opinions are all about. Now let the grown-ups finish this up, sweetie.


    I object! You can’t be the presiding judge and the defendant. Nor am I on trial here. Kangaroo court and denial of your own hypocrisy, does not prove guilt or degenerate behavior on the part of John.

    • SD Guru says:

      @JustAThought SD
      “It’s about agreements between consenting adults…”

      You’re missing the point, this is not about John’s daughter being a SB as a consenting adult. It’s about John’s thought process as a father and how he directly enabled her to be a SB through his decision making.

      @I LoveWestCoastGirl
      “I think Guru has a teenager daughter”

      Actually, I’m not old enough to have a teenage daughter! 😛

      “how do you deal with stares and whispers when you are out with your SD or SB??”

      This happened to me the other day, and worse, they were eavesdropping! But instead of giving them a death stare with “piss on you” attitude, I just gave them a knowing smile and a wink. The underlying message to the men was “don’t you wish you could be me!”, and the message to the women was “don’t you wish you could be her!” :mrgreen:

      “Is 2Chic just unlucky or is this a common occurrence for ladies on the site?”

      Unfortunately such rude and creepy behavior described by 2Chic is not uncommon. That’s why screening is so important and it takes patience and persistence to be successful.

  90. Grasshopper says:

    @JustAThoughtSD – You are a hypocrite by your own admission – Hence, your disapproval of my opinion and your approval of John’s degenerate behavior is therefore inadmissible. Court Dismissed!…:smacks gavel:

  91. Jessie says:

    Yep, and just like YOUR opinion is that they should go for it, Grasshopper’s is that they shouldn’t. *shrugs* You don’t give an apology for what YOU believe is right and just, so why should she.

  92. JustAThought SD says:


    You’re right, but opinions, are just that…opinions. Who decides if the laundry is dirty or clean? It’s in the eye of the beholder. Of course, THIS beholder’s opinion is if it’s legal, and not hurting anyone, go for it. Still doesn’t mean it’s right for me or my family. Or right for you. Let me tell you why:
    Now, the world don’t move to the beat of just one drum,
    What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
    A man is born, he’s a man of means.
    Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans.

    But they got, Diff’rent Strokes.
    It takes, Diff’rent Strokes.
    It takes, Diff’rent Strokes to move the world.

    Everybody’s got a special kind of story
    Everybody finds a way to shine,
    It don’t matter that you got not alot
    So what,
    They’ll have theirs, and you’ll have yours, and I’ll have mine.
    And together we’ll be fine….

    Because it takes, Diff’rent Strokes to move the world.
    Yes it does.
    It takes, Diff’rent Strokes to move the world.
    Yes, I went there.

  93. JustAThought SD says:

    @Content SB

    Congrats on the 6mo, before I forget again…or did I congratulate you already? I hope it stays happy.

    Re: Dowry
    I was merely making an allusion to arranged marriages of the middle ages, or any era where you had rich noblemen that would expand their influence by tying their 2 families/kingdoms/fiefdoms together. I guess I was hoping that maybe if he was ok with his daughter’s course of action that perhaps he had an ulterior motive to increase his power and influence. Of course, arranged marriages still exist, but we usually don’t call them that or see them that way.

    As you saw in the remainder of that post, I don’t think that I would go that route with MY daughters. I would also prefer them not to become sb’s, pornstars, pro escorts, prostitutes or strippers, even though I know some really smart, sweet, and stable strippers (not many though.) I would prefer all of my children to excel in finance, research, and corporate management, in addition to whatever profession they may choose. My close associates also understand that I would be very unhappy if they were to court my daughter. However, if our children chose a traditional long-term relationship, I am an old-fashioned dad that would expect my associate’s kid to meet certain criteria. AND I AM A HYPOCRITE when it comes to my children.

  94. Jessie says:

    This is also NOT a site to post something and expect that everyone is gonna join hands and sing kumbaya. Everyone has an opinion. If you don’t want to hear/listen/read someone else’s opinion that’s contrary to yours, don’t “spread your dirty laundry” in a public place, and no one will point and shout, “oh look your underwear has holes in it.”

  95. CaribSB says:

    @ Danielle
    I agree with SD4One abt the piss-on-u attitude. When you notice the stairs just compose yourself, sit with poise, shoulders back, etc, like a lady would. Do not get flushed and look embarrassed like a teenage would. Glance in the persons face-nose bridge between the eyes for a quick 2 seconds then turn to your date and smile. Lean forward and wisper something amusing. Now the person who was staring becomes more aware and conscious of themselves and probably embarrassed. They may try not to glance at u for the rest of the evening. This works especially for the judgemental or jealous female. Personally I don’t think the men care as much, but it works too :-)

  96. JustAThought SD says:


    Blah blah blah, and someone else will say this site is about prostitution, while they accept gifts from a guy they’re sleeping with that they met here.

    Just another example of hypocrisy, and she thought her specifics made her different from everyone else.

    What they’re doing is legal, whether you like it or not. Degenerate? Because you wouldn’t do the same thing? Would that mean gays are degenerates and borderline perversion if you’re not gay? And if you are, does that mean people should see you as degenerate or borderline perverse? This guy isn’t sleeping with his own daughter, or asking the other guy for pics. If the two people had met separately without knowledge of their mutual associate, would you condemn it if the dad still approved?

    Besides, this is not the site to whine about morals. Isn’t that what everyone says when someone says “prostitution or married sd”…but, of course, it’s not your choice. Raise your daughter how you want, til she’s 18/21 and then try to force her not to see one of your ex-bf/sd. Good luck.

  97. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Thank you for explanation !

    Let us know how it goes. On his boat – it is only you and him – very private! :))

    About JOHN’ daughter

    How many girls have intimate relationship at age if 18 th ! With a guy without any financial perks – only broken heart later. ?
    May be it is for better?

    18 y old can have sexual relationship with a guy about her age , may be horny looser , who would be cheating with her GFs… at least John’ daughter will have financial compensation for her time, energy, emotional loss. ?
    I do not know. We do not know all the details.
    May be this guys is HOT and sexy ?

  98. Jessie says:

    @Content – I think it’s sweet that he wants to do something special….really shows how much he cares for you. He’s grrreat for you ’cause I can see that you’re not all mush, look at that feisty girl that you hardly ever let out surfacing…hahahah. Love it.

    We’ve tabled it for later. Might pick it up again next semester.

  99. travelersb says:

    hey @ John, me I am happy for you and your daughter. I find that story very cool actualy. The fact that you have accept it. I guess that your daugter really likes him and it’s not only about money why she is seing him, so there is nothing wrong there.

    However, I am also from those who think that it is kind of gross to call a man I sleep with ”daddy” but, well , that’s just personal. What fits one doesn’t fits everybody. Anyhow, I wish you and your daughter the best.

  100. ContentSB says:

    @Jessie — Haha thanks! The celebration is on Wednesday…I’m looking forward to it, but I keep telling him I really don’t want to make a huge spectacle of it. Even if my sappy side has been making more appearances lately because of him, I still think it’s super lame to celebrate 6 months :p It’ll be fun to dress up a bit more than we usually do though and have a night out downtown together :) How did the house discussion go with Mr. Bond??

  101. Grasshopper says:

    @Jessie – Tru Dat!!! Haha

  102. Grasshopper says:

    @Content – I’m good! Glad to see you :)

  103. Jessie says:

    @Grasshopper – Missed you girl. How ya doing? Fishy does not begin to describe it…LOL Like I said before….some people contribute because they sincerely want to help, some to call attention to themselves, and some for what I’d like to call “entertainment value.”

    @Content – I got caught up in responding to the “story” though I knew I should have left it alone, and forgot to tell you that you wear sappy well…lol. I love how your guy is taking good care of you. How’d the celebration go?

  104. ContentSB says:

    @Grassy — Hey! How have you been lately?? Great to “see’ you :)

    @JustAThoughtSD — I’m on board with 90% of your posts….but a dowry…?! Are you being serious????

    I’m feeling feisty tonight (long weekend of work, my beloved Packers lost/the Vikings won UGH, annnnd I just found out tonight that the state of MN doesn’t sell alcohol in stores on Sunday which totally ruined my wine plans!!) …sooo I should really keep all snarky comments to myself…but my oh my is it difficult!!!!

  105. Grasshopper says:

    @JustAThoughtSD – using the explanation of “two consenting adults” blah, blah, blah…in “general” that is true…but we have specifics here..and in THIS case it’s just wrong…no matter how much you try and cover it with that “consenting adults” blanket.
    I woud NEVER condone that sort of activity between my associate and child…the only case where I MIGHT make exception to that is if they were both head over heels in love with each other and wanted to start a life together, in the truest sense. Sorry to disappoint, but there ‘s no hypocrisy here 😉 BECAUSE theirs is a sugar relationship, and the father seems to be A-OK with it, it reeks of degenerate attitudes and borderline perversion…PERIOD!

  106. SD4ONE says:

    “BTW, how do you deal with stares and whispers when you are out with your SD or SB??”

    It’s something I’ve noticed, particularly when going to dinner before formal events so we’re both dressed to the nine’s and so the lady is getting stares anyway. With any significant age difference between the guy and lady, the stares and whispers will come.

    I guess the answer is to develop a “piss on you attitude.” It’s about your time together. Outside observers can stare, whisper, cluck and tisk all they want. It’s none of their business so ignore them. If it’s a little overbearing a simple stare into their eyes for a few seconds usually turns them away.

    You said you felt a rush with this new guy. Maybe the stares added to the rush a little. Enjoy it. Sounds like you’re moving into an exciting arrangement. Good luck!!

  107. JustAThought SD says:

    @Nawty Molly

    I am truly sorry that you are single, again. When it was good, you seemed happy. I hope you find what you are looking for. Have you thought about trying SeekingMillionaire? Before you unleash your inner sugarbeast, (Animally/Animolly/AnnaMolly, yeah, it was a stretch) I hope you take some “you” time to grieve. Since I believe myself to be a romantic, I really thought highly of the next girl that came along after my breakups (usually 3 days later.) A few months later, I knew it was a rebound, and then I was stuck with feelings for someone that I really didn’t want to have feelings for. Those were really hard to deal with, and after I did break it off, it just left me at the same level of grief before the rebound. I believe love exists. I believe you can find it anywhere. And I believe loneliness and grief can really sidetrack your path to it. My heart goes out to you. I really don’t care if you found him on SA, real life, or wherever. You are a wonderful person, and you will make a wonderful companion for a wonderful guy. Take as many hugs as you want. {{{ :) }}}

  108. JustAThought SD says:

    @All SD’s/SB’s

    You may not like the decision of John or his daughter, but this is a sugar site, not match, christian mingle, or anything else like that. It’s about agreements between consenting adults. If the concept is good enough for everyone else on this site, who the hell are we to condemn John’s decision to support something we all believe in?

    Glass house + Stones = Hypocritcal Bullshit. How many 18 y.o. girls do you encourage to continue the sugar life without checking to see if she’s financially infantile?

  109. JustAThought SD says:

    I firmly stand behind the idea of sugar being any agreeable arrangement between 2 people of legal age. If your daughter is happy then I am happy for her. With that being said, as a father, I think I would have explained to her what her dowry was going to be, and that she should marry this man for the greater good of both your fiefdoms.(With no pre-nuptial agreement, of course.)

    If this idea was not a viable option, I think I would have focused on teaching her to be financially independent through either homegrown business tactics using your financial influence, a college degree and job hookup, or any combination of these.

  110. Grasshopper says:

    Sugar bowl or no sugar bowl…decency is decency. My question is how in the hell did the associate even know it was ok to hook up or even TRY to hook up with his associates daughter?. Seems to me that some discussion HAD to have taken place beforehand between John and the associate -Cause any normal guy would naturally assume the daughter of his associate would be off limits. How did the daughter and the associate know they had the green light to get together??? VERY curious, indeed..
    :rubs chin:

    Me thinks this all sounds rather fishy…

  111. Grasshopper says:

    ..and Hiya to ContentSB! I concur with your thoughts about the situation 😉

  112. Grasshopper says:

    @John – Umm…your associate whom you’ve known from BEFORE your daughter was born is now having sex with your daughter…Sorry..but that’s just WRONG. What’s even more gross is when you refer to him as her “Daddy”….
    That’s QUITE disturbing…*smh*

    On a more pleasant note – Hiya Jessie!.. Hiya to one and all!

  113. ContentSB says:

    @Jessie — Thanks for saying what I was desperately wanting to!!! Good Lord.

    @John — People in the sugar bowl are by and large a very open-minded group of people. When something strikes a nerve with the majority of the people here, it might be worth reevaluating your relationship with your daughter/the enabling of her choices at such a young age. She needs your guidance more than ever right now at 18…so be her dad, not her friend, and give that to her.

  114. Danielle says:

    @I LoveWestCoastGirl

    No, he says he’s not married (divorced) and we didn’t discuss allowance on our first date.
    Yesterday was really to see if we clicked (for me anyway). I won’t see
    someone that I don’t click with and have an attraction to which is why
    I’m excited about him because I like him. Our second date I think is a more appropriate
    time to discuss a fixed allowance since now we know there is something
    there between us. Besides, this next date is on his boat where we have privacy to
    talk. I really didn’t want to discuss an “allowance” in the middle of a restaurant.
    All eyes were on us already.lol!!

    TO All:
    BTW, how do you deal with stares and whispers when you are out with your SD or SB??
    I’m brand new to this and it was a little uncomfortable but at the same time it gave me a rush.
    I really don’t know how to describe it.

  115. SD4ONE says:

    “No one has come through, either I could not stomach the sight of him, was full of lies, or had only x-rated thoughts and words from the initial greeting. ”

    I guess the first part is you but the lies, x-rated thoughts and words sounds extremely creepy. I’m curious if this is a common experience for other ladies. I’m met about seven women on the site and our first meetings were pleasant – some with chemistry, some with none. None of the first meetings included lies from me nor from her (from what I could tell) and x-rated thoughts were not part of the conversation. Arrangements WERE discussed, if not on the first date, on the second or third. I think that’s expected on a site like this.

    From the SD’s frequently on the site, it sounds like they would not be the “lies and dirty-talk types” either. Is 2Chic just unlucky or is this a common occurrence for ladies on the site? I heard the founder say that it’s about 10 woman to 1 man on the site. Does this have something to do with it? Just seems strange to me that a guy interested in an arrangement where he’s going be contributing financially would start off this way.

  116. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    I think Gutu has a teenager daughter. :)

  117. 2Chic says:

    @Danielle, thanks for the encouragement, I wish you the best with your new sugar. As for the ball, just going to enjoy the evening. I am sure there’s enough women there to meet up with and laugh all night. My sense of humor will keep the laughs coming for sure, if nothing else f : )

  118. Jessie says:

    Guru – A story is just a story. Nothing more than entertaining reading.
    BTW, could you please send my email to NC Gent? Thanks.

  119. Jessie says:

    This is one of the posts that I should leave alone, but I just can’t control my fingers today :).

    It is her first steps on the road to independence.

    @John – So…when your 18 year old daughter walked across the stage and accepted her HIGH SCHOOL diploma that made her an adult, which now means she has to become semi-financially independent? And you think having a SD who gives her an allowance is the FIRST step? LOL. You’re kidding right? Hahahaha. Forget about going to college, securing an education and learning to be self-sufficient. What’s the point when your colleague who has “known her from she was a baby” will take over what YOU as a parent is supposed to do…and let’s not forget that this is an only child who has been raised by a widower. *shakes head* Yep, I can definitely see the wisdom in your action *roll eyes*

  120. Sasha says:

    Hello SA bloggers, I’ve been on this site for a good 3 months now with no luck. Almost every week, I constantly change something on my profile to see what works. I’m thinking maybe its my location (Houston) or did I put too much information out there.Idk. Whatever the case is, hopefully some outside tips can help improve my profile.


    Thanks mucho


  121. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    You and him r so exited to meet next week and take it further.
    Did he bring up the financial part? did you agree upon your “allowances ” or gifts or other “perks”?

    He sounds like Mr. Wonderful – he is married. ?

  122. Danielle says:

    Yes, it would be very very lucky. I’m hoping it works out. The whole night he was full
    of compliments about my looks and personality and only a day ago I was wondering if he would like me in person as much as he seemed to like me online. He is about to leave town for a bit, but emailed me this morning about meeting again before he goes. There is a HUGE mutual attraction that I just can’t get over. We hugged goodbye and it felt great.

    • SD Guru says:


      Looks like I’m beating a dead horse, so this is my final comment on this subject. Again, how you want to raise your daughter is none of my business, but it seems that you’re abdicating your responsibilities as a father and being content to let her SD take over. :roll:

      “she’s had to learn about handling personal finances and responsibilities.”

      Wouldn’t you rather have her learn these things through you instead of her SD?

      “She takes her responsibilities toward him quite seriously.”

      At 18, wouldn’t you rather have her take other things more seriously, such as school or work?

  123. Danielle says:

    You will find the right man who meets your standards. You just have to wade through all the creeps to find your guy. I had lots of emails with lots of different types of guys who were looking for lots of different things. Some, rather sorted things that I wanted nothing to do with. I didn’t agree to meet any one that made me uncomfortable. The guy I just started seeing emailed me back and forth for a month before we met and because I liked his personality online I went for it.I just had to deal with a lot of BS from guys just wanting a hooker and weed them out.
    Maybe your guy is at the ball Cinderella . Good luck!!

  124. 2Chic says:

    Guys… I have totally come to the conclusion that I may never have an arrangement with a guy that meets my standards. I know the word “standard” may seem a bit entitled but its my truth. I have had emails, and communicated with a few here. No one has come through, either I could not stomach the sight of him, was full of lies, or had only x-rated thoughts and words from the initial greeting.

    I contemplated canceling my plans to attend the ball, but decided that it would be fun. No longer looking to meet or establish anything. But hey, anything is possible, In person I am a head turner, so wish me luck.

  125. travelersb says:

    @ Daniella, you would be very lucky to meet your first sugar daddy on the first try. 😉 Good luck though

  126. Danielle says:

    Just had the best date ever last night.
    This was my first sugar date EVER and it went so unbelievably well.
    He was sweet, funny, handsome, so smart and had so many
    fascinating things to talk about. I felt completely comfortable and
    just in awe of him. He wants to meet again next week and I just
    can’t wait.
    Super excited about him. :)

  127. travelersb says:

    OK! I’m doing it, I am taking off my profile from SA. I’ll be back when the time is right. I need to concentrate on other things now. I will continu to come to the blog. I just find that at this moment, I need to protect my soul. SA is not the right place to do it :)

  128. SassyInMass says:

    Aw Molly sorry to hear youre going through a rough time. Youre right, you deserve better! If it not be a SD, I hope a nice maso comes along, stumbles into your dungeon and then you can expend some of that emotional energy 😉

  129. Arcadia SB says:

    Just wanted to say hello to everyone. I’ve been vaguely lurking when I’ve had time, but moving flats and starting the new year of Grad School isn’t leaving me as much time for the blog or sugar! Hope everyone is doing well!

  130. John says:

    @SD Guru – It is unrealistic to expect her to be completely financial independent when she’s only 18. And while it is true her Sugar Daddy provides her with an allowance, it is up to her to plan a monthly budget, pay the rent, take care of the utilities, buy groceries, and all the rest. So she’s had to learn about handling personal finances and responsibilities. It is her first steps on the road to independence.

    Her Daddy leads a rather hectic life and he always extremely busy with work or family. He never quite knows when he’s going to have some free time. It is very difficult for him to set plans like “Let’s get together for dinner next Friday at 7:00.” Under such circumstances, it is nearly impossible for him to maintain a normal relationship with a woman. Which is why he chose to have a Sugar Baby. My daughter has to keep her schedule very open to accommodate him – sometimes at a moment’s notice. She’s set herself up in an apartment that’s convenient to both his work and home. She takes her responsibilities toward him quite seriously.

  131. isabellebeauvais says:

    hey yall
    Ive been away from the blogs for quite a few weeks and my goodness the things I have missed..I guess I got to start catching up lol

    @simplicity(when you see this blog)
    I dont know if the blogs gods ever exchanged info, I lost the password to my old email.If youre still interested in having a sub SB then we can give it another go..second time lucky.

    @ john
    Im quite surprised that your so calm with the idea of your daughter being a SB with one of your associates..I dont know.. but most fathers will freak out.I guess she is quite lucky to have a father that respects her wishes and her trying to set you up with a SB from her circle seems quite funny to me, somehow I just dont EVER see that working.I guess she only trying to help.

    @nawty molly so sorry to hear about your breakup..I hope you find happiness and a guy worthy of you *((HUGS))*

  132. CaribSB says:

    @ John

    I find another effective way to ensure that, what you see on profile is what you meet in person, is to do a quick skype video chat, particularly for out of city / country potentials.

    • SD Guru says:

      “Just once she became an adult, I expected her to start making her own way and to stop taking for granted that I would pay for everything.”

      Of course no parent wants a freeloader in the house. You don’t want her to become dependent on you financially, but you seem to be ok with the fact that she has become dependent on her SD. There is something wrong with that logic, but maybe that’s just me.

  133. 2Chic says:

    Oh Molly, so sorry about your break-up.

  134. John says:

    @Nawty Molly – I wish I could give you some advice too. But my previous Sugar Babies were met through personal connections, my daughter met her Sugar Daddy through personal connections, and I fully expect to meet my next Baby through personal connections. Unfortunately something like that is only feasible if you already have an established network to work with. And with all due respect to this website, I only joined because I was curious as to what sort of response I might get from potential Babies.

    @California SB – Given the circumstances, it was impossible for my daughter to keep it secret from me. So she decided to be upfront and honest with me. I wasn’t thrilled when she told me, to say the least. But seeing how she is happy with it, I have since grown to accept it.

  135. California SB says:

    Every time I read this blog something new surprises me. I don’t know but I would never tell my dad I would want to become a sugar baby. And guess what… if I had wealthy father I wouldn’t be looking for a sugar daddy. Something doesn’t add up.

    “Hey dad, you know what cute old friend you got? I wanna fXXk him for money, hope ya don’t mind.”

    Sure…. yup. NOT.

  136. lady c says:

    That’s @ VASD. I hate touch screens

  137. lady c says:

    @VSBD thank you for your imput on my profile. I’ve been told before to smile a bit more but I’m not sure how. Most of my profile pics have my biggest smile.
    I will definately see about adding to my private pics as you suggested. I hadn’t thought of that but it sounds good.

  138. travelersb says:

    @ John – you are lucky to have a good relationship like that with your daughter and she is lucky to be surrounded by luxury.

  139. Tina says:

    @Nawty: bring on the aggressive! I think the blog needs a little spicing up lately 😉

  140. Nawty Molly says:

    Is everyone ready for aggressive Nawty?? I’m not sure you are..LOL!! 😀

    I have “needs” just like everyone else, and, my needs have been neglected..hehehe. I’m such a devil. 😉

    Where is James when I need him!! UGH!!!

  141. Nawty Molly says:

    I think Nawty’s dungeon is ready to swipe away the cobwebs! 😉
    Oh boy, Now that I REALLY think about it…I’m glad to be single!! 😀

  142. Nawty Molly says:

    Thanks Tina!! I think I will. I’m done pining away over him! I’m ready to move on and have some fun! 😀

    John ~ That is an interesting situation!! Indeed! I wish I could give some advice, but, I’m in need of advice and help myself, so, it would be like the blind leading the blind in this situation. :)

    Where are you BTW..just curious..hehehe 😉

  143. John says:

    @SD Guru – I never said that I insisted that my daughter be financially self-sufficient the moment she turned 18. Just once she became an adult, I expected her to start making her own way and to stop taking for granted that I would pay for everything. I have a friend of a friend with a son who is in his mid-20’s and still lives at home. The boy hasn’t worked a single day in his life – just parties and sponges off his parents. That’s the last thing I want for my own daughter. Even though she has a Sugar Daddy now, I still occasionally help her out financially. Just the other day I paid for her car repair.

    As far as my daughter helping to find a Sugar Baby for me, that was actually all her idea and came as quite a surprise to me. To explain, I’m a widower, and my daughter is my only child. When she moved out, I was left by myself for the first time in decades. So she views this as finding a companion for her lonely father. She has already tried to set me up a couple times with potential Babies, but both experiences never went anywhere.

  144. Tina says:

    Guru you rock 😉

  145. Theresa says:

    Could someone take a look at my profile and tell me what the hell I’m doing wrong (besides being old)? I mean, I know in the “war” between the 40’s and the 20’s I’m the loser every time, but please can’t a woman get any love out there?

    Profile number: 1014130


  146. Tina says:

    @northernSD: I would take Guru’s advice on the appropriate amount. But, I’ll offer my own opinion for what it’s worth. :) It depends on your means, the area you live in, and what you’re both comfortable with. For me, I would prefer to start with getting coffee, and perhaps lunch at a mid-priced establishment if we hit it off. As an SD, you need to know your own limits to what constitutes an acceptable amount of money and time investment for your first meeting, understanding that this could be the only time that you ever see this person. Let her know what you’re willing to offer, and she might counter it. It just depends on what you’re both expecting, and it might save you some time. For example, for the former pot SB that only talked about the purses and shoes she liked, taking her out for only coffee might have turned her off but would have saved you some effort and money.

  147. northernsd says:

    SD Guru
    Just read a little bit of your blog and thanks. SA needs to link your blog when you sign on.

  148. northernsd says:

    You mentioned keeping the initial investment smaller. What is appropriate??? (Sorry I am newbie.)

    Your predicament has moved to another reason why I thank god I have no daughters. (three boys)

  149. Danielle says:


    This is one of the things I’m afraid of.
    I go to meet my first Pot. EVER tomorrow and I’m nervous that he might think that I don’t live up to my profile photos. ALL my photos are within the last month. Of course I used photos I thought looked good, but now I’m thinking I should have thrown in a not so good looking one so I can out shine it when I meet him. He is local, so I’m driving to meet him. No expense for him there. We have been talking online for a month now and I think I will be a little crushed if he doesn’t like me in person. I hope if he is not all that impressed with me he will be a gentleman like you were to your pot. SBs.

  150. John says:

    I feel sort of compelled to share my story – on here with people who would be understanding to my situation. I have been a Sugar Daddy in the past, and am looking to be one again. The thing is, my daughter has come of age recently and has decided to become a Sugar Baby herself. I have to admit I struggled with the concept when she first told me she was going through with it. But I have always felt that SD/SB relationships were quite natural and rewarding. And she grew up in an environment of wealth and luxury, where there were always Daddies and their Babies around. So it would all seem quite normal to her. I have since come to accept and support her decision to become a Baby.

    Raising her, I may have at times spoiled her. But at the same time I have tried to instill in her a strong sense of responsibility. And I always made it quite clear to her that once she turned 18 that I expected her to start making her own way – and to stop relying on my full financial support.

    She’s a young and very pretty girl – and it’s only natural she would use those qualities to her advantage. In fact, I had been assuming she was going to get into modelling. She had mentioned it several times. But when I asked her about it, she told me she had chatted with some working models about their experiences and decided it was not for her.

    She’s become the Baby to a business associate of mine who I have known for years, from since before she was even born. And I know he’ll take good care of her as her Daddy.

    It has also worked out for me. My daughter wants to help me find a new Baby of my own. Since she now sometimes travels in circles with other Babies, she’s going to see if any of them might be looking for a new Daddy. Or perhaps with her network of friends, seeing if there’s any girl who wants to become a Baby and setting me up as her Daddy. We’ll have to see how it goes.

    • SD Guru says:

      “Both of the women completely misrepresented themselves in their profiles… In each case I offered in advance to make a substantial arrangement for the date (i.e. cash payment) because I wanted to have a longer first date. (2 days)”

      Thanks for sharing your experience and I’m sorry to hear what happened. What I quoted above is at the root of your problem. Your approach of making a substantial arrangement in advance and wanting a longer first date obviously didn’t work, and I’m sure you’re smart enough to figure out why that’s the case. In addition to screen relentlessly, I’ve always recommended that a first meet should be simple and low key. And in general a longer first meet has a lower chance for success because too many things can go wrong, especially when travel is invovled. You can see what I wrote about first meet here and here.

      Good luck and I hope you’ll find an approach that works for you.

      “my daughter has come of age recently and has decided to become a Sugar Baby herself…”

      Very interesting… so your daughter has become a SB to your businesss associate, and you’re looking to tap into her SB network to find yourself one as well. Perhaps one of your business associates has a daughter too? I still can’t wrap my head around this one… 😯

      “And I always made it quite clear to her that once she turned 18 that I expected her to start making her own way – and to stop relying on my full financial support.”

      How you want to raise your daughter is none of my business, but it seems that expecting her to be financially self sufficient the moment she turns 18 is not realistic. Therefore you’re in effect forcing her to make choices that you may not agree with.

  151. Tina says:

    Oh, and @northernSD: I would be a little afraid of her ability to keep things, uh, “private” if she’s using the same pictures on FB as on here. It’s easy to find them. I have pics and an e-mail for just this site, to keep things between me and whoever I decide to start an arrangement with. Just my two cents.

  152. Tina says:

    @northernSD: you’re doing everything right. Unfortunately there are deceptive people everywhere. I’m sure that the SDs that blog frequently, who should be back on aaaaaaaaany moment, can share some horror stories with you, but also be beacons of hope as well. I’ve seen some of their stories, and some of them make me ashamed to call myself a pot SB (at least until they get to the good part :) ).

    Keep the faith – there will be one out there that will make this search all worth while. In the meantime, I would suggest just that you keep your initial investment smaller – dinner instead of a 2 day date. You can always make it up to the right one later.

  153. northernsd says:

    For screening what I did was to start emailing, then chats, text and then a couple of phone calls right before. On the second girl I met I actually looked up her Facebook acct prior as well. (the same exact pics on Facebook as on SA)
    there are a couple of women that i am at the point where I would like to meet them but I am actually a bit gun shy at this point.

  154. Tina says:

    @northernsd: what type of screening did you do with these two previous SBs? Many times I’ve heard of people just e-mailing then deciding to meet up. I will say that it is easier to impress someone through e-mail since you have tools at your disposal (spell and grammar check, time to dissect what you want to say, friends to help to construct a good argument, the internet to help you seem more savvy on a topic, etc. etc. etc.). Many times a phone call can help the screening process, since many of these tools are now eliminated and you get a true sense of the person. The bad thing is that it doesn’t solve the issue with the pictures, but that screening will happen on its own. There is a level of trust that happens with the screening of pots, and I’m sorry that it hasn’t been to your advantage. Maybe if we knew a little more about the process that you have used, someone can offer more than the vague suggestions I’ve just made.

    @VASD: please don’t take offense that I’m not looking for an arrangement with a married SD. I find many of the men I’ve met on this blog perfectly charming (including you, of course), and don’t want to pass judgement. I just know that I would feel guilty, and don’t want to add that to an arrangement. For me, it’s all about being drama free and fun, as well as NSA. I have to be true to myself, because if I’m not, how can I say I’m being truthful to a SD? :)

  155. northernsd says:

    Thanks for the response. I realize it is going to take some time and didn’t exactly expect a miracle just from two dates. I obviously need some better screening though. Not sure what more I can do on that end though without turning women off.

  156. travelersb says:

    @ northernsd
    I’m sad to hear about your stories. I don’t think that it is what you should expect from this site though. It takes a lot of screening, that is sure though. Like a good sd doesn’t happen fast, I guess you don’t find a good sb very fast neither. There are good girls and good Sbs out here :)

    Welcome to the blog btw

  157. northernsd says:

    New to this site but have read the blogs for a little while before I jumped in.

    Totally of subject but I have to vent on this. So far I have gone on two sugar dates with pot SB’s and have been completely disappointed. Both of the women completely misrepresented themselves in their profiles. Both had used old pictures and when I met them they didn’t even look enough like the pics that I could identify them. One lied about here age (said she was older) and I didn’t find this out until she was carded when we went out for drinks. Looks were not the sole or worst one was a complete idiot and the other didn’t want to talk about anything but what car she wanted/needed and what purses she likes.
    One of the girls was somewhat local (in the same state at least) the other I had to fly in for. In each case I offered in advance to make a substantial arrangement for the date (i.e. cash payment) because I wanted to have a longer first date. (2 days) This in itself was not a problem but the problem was very much the time and effort I put into it.
    Before anyone attacks me I was very much a gentleman and did everything I could to make the best of it. Both of these women have been bugging the hell out of me to see them again. That in itself is another subject.
    Is this typical and something I should just expect from here?

  158. VASD says:

    @Tina I was directed to SA by a close friend. I have directed exactly one other friend to it. As one of the married SDs you are averse to, I like to keep my activites discreet. If a very close, trusted friend were to hint at being interested in something like this, I’d likely share, but otherwise something I keep fairly close to the chest. Besides, more SBs for me!
    Joking…joking…really–I wish everyone here success and happiness.

  159. Tina says:

    @travelerSB: I’m again right there with you. I don’t do casual encounters, it misses that mental connection that I have to have. Great sex involves ALL of the senses, plus your mind! And if I know the person, I can judge if they like what I’m doing, not interested, or if I get the hell no reaction. I like for the other person to enjoy it as much as I am, and get off on being able to know that they are. You just can’t do that with a stranger.

  160. travelersb says:

    My mind can’t even be very sexual whith someone I barely know. It’s not just a rational question of wanting to take my time, it’s my body and my instinct that doesn’t like to go fast. Anyhow, I see a link with why that kind of party doesn’t interest me. I can imagine what will be the discussions that people will have there. Total strangers who will go around talking of their personal experiences and saying what new things they want to try with other total strangers. How guys will be excited just because of the little demonstration and how they will become in their ”animal mood” I would call it. To me, there is nothing attractive there, even if all those men have the big wallet and are good looking, I don’t mind. That’s the kind of place I would go in couple I think, with a man I already know.

  161. Tina says:

    @travelerSB: I’m right there with ya!

    @VASD: read the articles riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight; have you directed your possible SD friends to this site? The benefit is that you can look and stay as anonymous as you would like. And as active/aggressive as you would like. I’ve been pretty passive in my search since I’ve been career focused as of late, plus the SDs in my area are most married, which I’m not into.

    @Nawty: grab that horse and run with it! Reactivate that profile! You may not find the love of your life the first few arrangements, but the arrangements might be a good way to just have some much needed fun with a man who has no expectations of you other than being your sexy self! Go get’em girlie! :)

  162. travelersb says:

    I meant imagines himself at the first moment (first night they meet) in a red room of pain with someone he meets the same night at this party…

  163. travelersb says:

    The red room of pain made for a party with all strangers together and the association with hustler hollywood makes it gross to my eyes. I like sexshops and toys, I like the idea of a red room of pain, but common… those things are to be shared in private with not stranger people. Someone I know for less than 24 hours is still a stranger to me so I don’t even understand how a man or a woman can imagine himself or herself in a red room of pain with someone he meets at this kind of party.

    I know that I am maybe old fashion and that it’s not the way it works, and that there are exceptions, but personaly, it’s not for me. I am not judging here, I just can’t feel like that so I don’t understand. I am sometime even jealous of people who are able to enjoy sexuality with barely stranger people, but for me, sexuality is not fun if I don’t know the person.

  164. VASD says:

    @lady c I like what you write about yourself–far from the “I want this and I want that I am a princess” you see in so many profiles. Maybe smile a bit more in your pics? Put something in a private pic illustrating more of the fantasy side you suggest?

  165. Nawty Molly says:

    Womens rights rule!! Seiously..

  166. Nawty Molly says:

    I’m a democrat..Republicans are burying themselves..sorry…

  167. VASD says:

    Jump back in the sugar bowl, Molly. I’m sure plenty of great guys would go for a firecracker like you.

  168. Nawty Molly says:

    I love pain!! Only if it’s in a classy, kind of way, I don’t want it to be a weird kinda “pick me up on the sidewalk” kinda way. I would love to go to a gala, then, go back to my room and handcuff you to my bed…lol!!

  169. VASD says:

    And “majority of sugar daddies are Republicans…” Sugar Daddies for Obama unite!! I mean, c’mon, Clinton had the cajones to take SD-ing presidential!

  170. Nawty Molly says:

    Maybe I should re-instaste my SA profile…hmmm???

  171. VASD says:

    @Tina The party isn’t in my plans, but, in principle, I don’t think I’d necessarily have a problem with a Red Room of Pain as long as it were classy. Just, again, I think of the Hustler brand as skanky. Not that I ever looked at the magazine when I was a kid–no, no–I only read it for the thoughtful articles. Seems to me if you want to keep the sugar bowl stocked, SA should be looking for a better crowd. I’ve got plenty of respectable gentleman friends who would consider sugar relationships, but pretty sure they’d shy away from associating with anything Hustler-related.

  172. Nawty Molly says:

    I’m single!! Whoo Hoo!! 😀

  173. Nawty Molly says:

    sorry for the typo!!

    Okay, I’ve said that I’m TOTALLY SINGLE!! 😀

  174. Nawty Molly says:


  175. Nawty Molly says:

    Tina ~ I agree! Iif you’re with someone ist should be because they bring out the best. He did try, but he went about it the wrong way. He put me down and just made me feel like crap about mysel! If you’re tying to motivat someone, one would think that you would use positive reinforcement, not insults..

  176. Nawty Molly says:

    Okay, I’m done!! Enough of this crap! We are done and I want to find someone who’s worthy of me and my dedication. Period! 😀

  177. Tina says:

    @Nawty: Perhaps your post was just so good it had to be said twice! And good for you! Find someone that brings out the best in you, not the icky. Icky is bad :)

    @VASD: I agree, it makes me think that the Red Room of Pain is going to be skankville. Especially with the, uh, live demonstrations…..I’m not squeemish, but I prefer my kink to be more private than that.

  178. Nawty Molly says:

    find anyone who loved him the way I did..

  179. Nawty Molly says:

    just to let everyone know, I’ve put up with him lying, and doing things behind my back.. I’m not into that kind of sh*t!! I need the guy I’m with to be honest and trustworthy and he never really demonstrated any of that. He was emailing his ex-girlfirend, eventhough she treated him like shit

    I’m just done and want to move on..I tried hard and loved him more than anyting! I just wasn’t good enough for him! If he wantsw a bitch then he should go find it!! I loved him for who he was, not what he was. He will NEVER

  180. Nawty Molly says:

    Blog Gods, I think you have a glitch! 😀

  181. Nawty Molly says:

    Hmm, for some reason my post double posted…strang…

  182. Nawty Molly says:

    No reason to sit around and feel sorry about the whole thing!! I didn’t do anything wrong really! However, I do realize that when you break up with someone it takes two to tango. We just ended up clashing! Nothing I could really do about it! I’m ready to find someone who really likes me for me! Is there anything wrong with that??!! Sure, he was nice and gave me things I couldn’t afford on my own, BUT, that crap doesn’t really matter to me. Sure, maybe I want more than a SB/SD relationship, but, I don’t have to put up with sh*t just to make it happen!! I’m a good person, I’ve been dedicated (and I always have been even when I WAS his SB). When I make a commitment, I mean it, I don’t see it as a joke and I’m not here to milk anyone out of their money/assests. If you want to give it, fine, but I’m not going to ask for it. I want to really care about someone and I thought I had found that, but, obviously I didn’t.

    Honestly, I’m getting older and I want a REAL realationship! I don’t want to be manipulated into being someone I’m not just for the sake of money or experiences! I don’t need it! I don’t want it! I just want to be cared for…truly. I’m a PERSON not a piece of meat you can manipulate into being something I’m not. I don’t come well done, seriously, I’m a person!! I am who I am and I can’t helpl it!! thinking about the whole thing just ticks me off!! He wanted to call me by my middle name and change me into something that he wanted, physically and mentaly. He went so far as to tell me that I wasn’t smart enough for his firends!! Really?! I don’t need that kind of crap in my life, either you want to be with ME or you don’t It’s as simple as that.

  183. Nawty Molly says:

    No reason to sit around and feel sorry about the whole thing!! I didn’t do anything wrong really! However, I do realize that when you break up with someone it takes two to tango. We just ended up clashing! Nothing I could really do about it! I’m ready to find someone who really likes me for me! Is there anything wrong with that??!! Sure, he was nice and gave me things I couldn’t afford on my own, BUT, that crap doesn’t really matter to me. Sure, maybe I want more than a SB/SD relationship, but, I don’t have to put up with sh*t just to make it happen!! I’m a good person, I’ve been dedicated (and I always have been even when I WAS his SB). When I make a commitment, I mean it, I don’t see it as a joke and I’m not here to milk anyone out of their money/assests. If you want to give it, fine, but I’m not going to ask for it. I want to really care about someone and I thought I had found that, but, obviously I didn’t.

    Honestly, I’m getting older and I want a REAL realationship! I don’t want to be manipulated into being someone I’m not just for the sake of money or experiences! I don’t need it! I don’t want it! I just want to be cared for…truly. I’m a PERSON not a piece of meat you can manipulate into being something I’m not. I don’t come well done, seriously, I’m a person!! I am who I am and I can’t helpl it!! thinking about the whole thing just ticks me off!! He wanted to call me by my middle name and change me into something that he wanted, physically and mentaly. He went so far as to tell me that I wasn’t smart enough for his firends!! Really?! I don’t need that kind of crap in my life, either you want to be with ME

  184. VASD says:

    Not sure if Hustler is the best partner for SA. Hustler says ‘skanky’ to me, not ‘smart’. ‘funny’, ‘classy’, ‘sexy’, like the ladies I lookf for on SA.

  185. Nawty Molly says:

    Things are so, so. I’m single now and don’t really know what to do with myself. Certain smells, and things remind me of him. Oh well, it’s life, but it still kinda sucks. However, I’m ready to move on, so, I’m on the prowel!! LOL!! 😀

  186. Sasha says:

    I’m here in the Houston area and would like to know good hot spots to visit. Also where I can find pots sds galore..


  187. Tina says:

    NAWTY! How are things girly? I’ve missed chatting with you this week! :)

  188. Nawty Molly says:

    Only 3 weeks and two days until the “DEXTER” season premiere!! Whoo Hoo!! Can’t wait!

  189. lady c says:

    Oh Great Gods and Godesses of the Blog! I beseech you for assistance in my plight. I have been on SA for nearly a year and so far I have had zero luck. I have had only one response to my emails and there have been no winks, favorites or approaches what soever. So I have just completely revamped my profile and replaced my Pics. Can someone please review my profile and let me know if I should make more changes? Its#777255. Thank you Great and Powerful One

  190. Sweet J says:

    I love that photo of the girls. I have a relative in Tampa that was not pleased that the RNC took over his town. I quote him: “The security is so extreme, it’s very odd to see the places still open to traffic–all the fences, barricades, and patrolling armed police. They are on foot, bikes, cars, helicopters, boats, etc! It almost feels like we’re living in a military state! Can’t wait for them all to leave–and hopefully without any incidents.” Glad it’s over now, and even more glad that I’m living abroad, and away from all the madness… By the way, I’m always looking for pleasant company in Seoul… speaking of self-promotion… :) Look me up if you come around: Profile Number 825252

  191. SBinLA says:

    I already purchased my tickets….can’t wait for the event!

  192. Tina says:

    Haha hard to ignore the half naked girls outside a political convention *snicker*

    No, I’m not going to the party (no time with my current work schedule, no extra funds, and I’m WAY too shy to be successful at something like this!)

    Sugar in the media? Hmmm, depends on how it is portrayed.

  193. EllenSugarB says:

    Great campaigning with the hot girls lol! That sign is really funny! (and somewhat true) … For the most part I like sugar in the media :) And for selfish reasons I’d like to keep a lid on it – less competition 😉

  194. Jennifer says:

    All personalities and perspectives are welcome in the blog, while personal attacks and name calling are not. It’s inevitable that there will be disagreements but let’s handle it as mature adults with class to keep the dialog constructive and respectful. Please refer to the “Blog Etiquette” for more details. For the newbies, please take a look at the “Sugar Daddy Dating Tips” section on the right for a list of commonly discussed topics and the “SD and SB Blog List” section to see the perspective of other sugars. Now comment away and let’s enjoy the blog!!