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Monogamy, Promiscuity & Sugar


What is the definition of promiscuous? Every Sugar Daddy and Sugar Baby might have different standards, but according to our recent poll, promiscuity and monogamy sometimes vary depending on the locale too. Sugar Daddies from this website reported an average of 5 annual sexual partners, with only 38% of the sample population reporting over 7 annual sexual partners. Therefore, the annual number that defines promiscuity for Sugar Daddies, is 7. But for female Sugar Babies, the average number of annual sexual partners is 3, defining Sugar Baby promiscuity as greater than 5 sexual partners per year. Whether you agree with these numbers or not.. it’s interesting to see the discrepancy for what is average, and above average for each sex. But where do the “good girls” live, and where do the naughty daddies play?

Our study shows that country girls are the most monogamous girls, living in cities like Nashville, Louisville, Charlotte and Columbus. So if you are looking for a good girl, it wouldn’t hurt to start looking in one of the cities below.

  1. Nashville, TN (72%)
  2. Columbus, OH (69%)
  3. St. Louis, MO (68%)
  4. Milwaukee, WI (66%)
  5. Denver, CO (65%)
  6. Norfolk, VA (63%)
  7. Tampa, FL (62.5%)
  8. Louisville, KY (61%)
  9. Tacoma, WA (60%)
  10. Charlotte, NC (59%)

As for the least monogamous, Miami, San Diego and Chicago offer the most sexually active Sugar Babies. If you’re looking for monogamous sugar, it’s safe to say that it’s more difficult to come by in some cities. The following cities show the top ten locales where the percentage of Sugar Daddies with over 7 annual sexual partners is higher.

  1. Chicago 72%
  2. Birmingham 70%
  3. Las Vegas 68%
  4. Oklahoma City 64%
  5. Atlanta 62%
  6. Phoenix 61%
  7. Philadelphia 59%
  8. Hoboken 57%
  9. Richmond 55%
  10. Hartford 54%
If sex is involved in your sugar relationship, make sure you are upfront with each other about your expectations. If you choose to be monogamous, make sure you keep up with your end of the bargain, and if you are sleeping with more than one person at once, make sure you are taking the necessary safety precautions.

Do you prefer monogamous sugar or poly-sugar?

What is your definition of promiscuity for a man? A woman?

Sugar Daddies: do you prefer a good girl, or a naughty girl?


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301 Responses to “Monogamy, Promiscuity & Sugar”

  1. Illinois SD says:

    This question may be dumb . . . but have wondered for quite some time.

    I have had a couple of long term arrangements and loved them. Also, have had relationship as a “regular” with a high end escort, including dinner, travel etc.

    If a SB was a poly – what is the advantage of SD/SB relationship with a monthly allowance versus being a regular with a low volume high priced professional?

    My two year arrangement just ended, and I am exploring which direction makes more sense. I am definitely into companionship and lifestyle adventure, plus great sex. Seems like either approach is a possibility.

    It would seem to me the mono-SB is the biggest advantage over meeting as a regular client of a professional, yet a poly-SB does not since the exposure to multiple partners exists there as well.

    Just curious.


  2. Midwest SB says:

    Guru – Shhhhh – don’t want to give it all away at once! We haven’t even covered pampering!

    Happy Sunday sugars! Had a superfantastic day yesterday and feel so relaxed! Hope you are too!

  3. EllenSugarB says:

    …yes blog gods can i please have Honey’s email? I just don’t want to exchange the email I use for the blog bc it’s my real first and last name. But honey, I will email you from a separate e-mail. And once we have a chance to chat (and I make sure you’re really who you say you are lol) i will email you from my personal account. xo

  4. EllenSugarB says:

    Hello all 🙂 Thank you Midwest for your kind words. Thank you everyone else for your funny comments 🙂

    Guru – “Were you not able to get a sense of his mental/emotional issues before you decided to buy the ticket?”

    Not at all! We exchanged substantial emails back and forth, and also talked on the phone for several hours. And it’s not like we had nonsense shallow conversations. I asked probing questions. The guy simply lied and misrepresented himself.

    When I was with him in Houston and the truth came out I asked, “Why would you lie about these things? The beauty in these (or any) relationships is being able to be honest and be accepted for who you are.” He said that he wasn’t honest because he “was embarrassed.” I said, “Well it’s quite clear that you really want to be loved, and for that to truly happen you have to be yourself or that person will never love “YOU”, they will love the false image you created. Also, laying a foundation of any relationship, friendship business or romantic, based on false information is just laying the grounds for a disaster down the road. The truth has a way of coming to light over time. So it may serve you better in the long run to be more honest. Then, when the right thing comes along – it will be seeds on fertile soil.”

    I’ve been told by many that I am very loving and compassionate, I listen and I care, and I give off that energy to people around me. I do notice that people feel comfortable opening up to me – and that’s wonderful! So, when I hung out with him he came clean about some things he lied about, and spilled his guts quite a bit more. Had he been forthcoming from the beginning, I wouldn’t have had such a problem with the issues he was going through (emotional, mental, financial). We are all human and we all have times when we are down and out. Lord knows, I haven’t always been a basket of sunshine. Lol.

    The problem I had with this person is not so much that he was having issues, but more so that he betrayed my trust by lying and being deceptive. Trust is imperative for a healthy relationship of any nature. And, once broken, it is very hard to mend. The moment I felt that I couldn’t trust him I thought “I am never going to want to sleep with this guy.” Game over. lol So true!

  5. RussianSB says:

    Whole December – caviar 30% discount , both Salmon and Beluga and I live close to fishmarket. In January I cannot look at it anymore. In Russia it is not so expensive , because we do export.

  6. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    I am up for Blini (pan cakes) with caviar any – every- day .:))

    I am 100 pounds today ! 🙂 I should go eat something now:)

  7. Tina says:

    Gotta love those pagans, they sure did know how to throw a party! 😉

  8. RussianSB says:

    We have official workbreak from 30 of December till 9 of January EAT holydays.
    Different kind of meat dishes, russian salad (potato salad), herring, cold appetizar – chicken pieces in gelly with garlic parsley and carrot, and pickled cucambers, tomatoes, peppers, mushrooms,cabbage – very traditional choise.
    And pancakes is traditional, like kreppes in France. Tinaaaa !!! WITH : honey, jem, soft sweet cheese and rasins, and non-sweet stuffing : salted salmon,caviar, meat.
    And we have week in February, when each day pancakes served – it comes from old sun-worshipping pagan days, because pancake look like sun.
    I hope ILoveWestCoastGirl read that post 🙂

  9. Tina says:

    Actually, the hot sauce that I like is cayenne pepper based, so technically it’s a Mexican dish with a Louisiana twist 😉 I like my spicy, but I have to have good flavor with it. I abhor most Habanero dishes, since the peppers are hot but very very bitter in most cases. Yuuuuuuuuuuuck

  10. RussianSB says:

    Jalapenos peppers, jalapenos sause… Definately Mexican recepy.

  11. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: nope, tamales are a main course. Little yummy goodness wrapped in a corn husk (the filling is spiced beef, chicken or pork, wrapped in a corn base known as masa then wrapped in a corn husk). They’re best eaten with hot sauce and jalapenos on top. The bad part is that when they’re hot you can drop the suckers trying to get them free from the corn husk if the masa has been wrapped around it. I’ve been known to catch and chase down a tamale or two 😉

  12. RussianSB says:

    Thank you Tina, you talking yammy, so it is 22 November this time. You will be surprised, but in Moscow all restorants have special Thanksgiving and X-mass menu, and decoration, for expatriats feel like in home :))) What is TAMALES ? It is dessert ?

  13. Tina says:

    @Phone Guy: you ain’t had tamales until you’ve had them in Texas! And at Thanksgiving, if you know the right lil Hispanic grandmother type, you can get them handmade! Hell yeah! 🙂 Oh gracious I’m drooling just thinking about them……..

    And, I can say first hand, be open Phone Guy. You may think you know what you like and need in your life, which is a good thing, but sometimes something pops in that you didn’t plan on. And it’s good, and good for you, and you could have missed out if you didn’t have an open mind. I have always tried to live my life without regrets; I will only regret the things that I didn’t do/try/say that I wanted/needed to, and never regret the things I said and did. I will just learn from them. 🙂

  14. JustAThoughtSD says:

    I had to reset my web settings and it went back to JustAThought, but don’t worry Tequila is everywhere 😀 (And I’ll probably fix it over the next day.)

    ” I would do just about anything”
    This statement alone will set you up with quite a few SD. 🙂 Ofc he may not be the exact SD you wanted. You said you would do “almost anything?” Would you make a list of exactly what you want on one side and exactly what bring to the table (in order of priority so you can see the dealbreakers) ? Would you consistently update your profile and your pics so it will appeal to a wide portion of the type of sd’s you’ll accept? Would you be open to a long distance arrangement? Would you be open to short term and long term arrangements? Would you be interested in just p4p from a repeat sd? Would you be willing to look for SD’s in real life as well, going where you know SD’s will be hanging out? Would you be willing and able to spend the money it takes to look like a million bucks so your type of SD would notice you in real life and at your meets? Would you be willing to text,email,chat,and phone as if you were in a traditional relationship to screen and solidify your potential SD and a meet and greet? Would you be willing to meet and possibly have an absolutely horrible time, and then run the risk of having another bad day back-to-back? Would you be willing to do all of these things for another 6 months with no guarantee?

    If you can do all these things, and keep a wonderful attitude the entire time, you’ll probably get an SD, and sooner than you think. If you just want some booty, cut most of my sentences out of that paragraph.

  15. Phoneguy says:

    We all may find ourselves bending the stipulations that we originally expected.
    @JaTSD, I like that. I know what my perfect arrangement is but I am open trying out other things. Maybe I’ll like something I didn’t expect I would like.

    @Tina, haha, I have never had tamales on Thanksgiving. I guess I do need to come down to Texas. 😉

  16. Tina says:

    @Russian SB: On Thanksgiving Day we get our loved ones together, celebrate family and friends, and EAT! Then some watch or play football or ice hockey. Then we eat again. The next day we shop, then eat leftovers. Wash, rinse, repeat for about 2 weeks, then the Christmas celebrations begin. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

  17. Tina says:

    @Russian SB: Thanksgiving Day (also known as Turkey Day) in the U.S. is always the 4th Thursday in November, so the date changes. But the food….oh the glorious food…..in Texas we not only have the traditional spread (turkey, ham, mashed potatoes, stuffing, sweet potatoes, cranberry sauce, green bean casserole, rolls, pumpkin and pecan pies….), but tamales are a staple as well. Mmmmmm tamales…..

  18. RussianSB says:

    @Lady V – and you know what they do in Turkey day ? It is exotic to you ?

  19. JustAThoughtSD says:

    Each relationship/arrangement is unique, and I believe that all things are negotiable. We all may find ourselves bending the stipulations that we originally expected.

    On another note, I do encourage people to have a backup plan when your arrangement goes south.

  20. Lady Vuitton says:

    Thanksgiving – Turkey day is towards the end of November. Lots to eat then.

    I am excited about that as I am travelling from the UK and will be celebrating it in the States.

    Only 3 weeks to go to my holidays yippee!!!

  21. Midwest S says:

    Opening a can of worms here…

    Jack, Flyer & WCSD – There’s an arrangement for everyone and if both parties agree, then all is good. Arranging her first and future travel arrangements are certainly a great opportunity for the ladies.

    HOWEVER, she is lucky that the three of you can be trusted. There are 100 guys for every one of you who will insist she take all the risks, or pay for travel and turn out to be one of the most harrowing experiences ever. I have been up at 3am talking to a girl who had to fend off a guy by jumping out of a car and find a way back home. She didn’t have enough money to fly back and was terrified. She had money wired to her, but the risk and drama was not worth it. I was truly scared for her. This was not the first girl I’ve heard experience this. So…if I miss out on one guy because he didn’t come to me, I’m ok with that. Of the four I met, I had arrangements with three. I’m ok with that too. 🙂 BTW – I did all the traveling after.

    BTW – Guru can link anyone to the blog entry about how to do your best to travel wisely and safely.

    The “accidental boyfriend” and “irregular arrangements” will work for some. I It seems to be the trend as we get more young ladies who are less experienced and will think it sounds like a wonderful idea. Then there are those of us who still hold on to the old-fashioned version of arrangements. Even my arrangements were a hybrid. We would meet once a month for a long weekend of constant attention, then return to our regular lives with calls and e-mails in-between. It can work and it’s fair to all parties. Again, we all want something different and I completely respect your version. I’m just saying it’s not for me (does that mean you would miss out on a great SB? 🙂 )

  22. RussianSB says:

    Pretty calm, Lady V, no party tonight. In Monday you will be good.
    When do you have Turkey Day holydays in US ?

  23. Lady Vuitton says:

    Thanks Russian SB but may miss out the butter.

    How is life treating you today?

  24. RussianSB says:

    @Lady V, then you have nothing to lose, go and make it ! Mag of hot milk with honey and piece of butter.

  25. Lady Vuitton says:

    Hi RussianSB and everyone else.

    How are you all?

    My cold is no better. I am beginning to look like Rudolph!

  26. Lady Vuitton says:

    Hi Tina Happy Friday to you too !

    Happy Weekend to everyone! 🙂

    Wounded, sorry to hear about your experience. We all come across these type of “characters” at times but just pass them by. Remember there are some great men out there so keep the faith.

    I have to say I love what you said to him at the end. Go Girl ! 🙂

  27. California SB says:

    Westcoast: Next time say the altoids are actually a powerful poison that will knock him out unconscious only by the touch of your tongue. Unbelievable…. big babies that’s what most guys are 😛

  28. Phoneguy says:

    I look for the positive. 😉

    Me too….in person!

  29. RussianSB says:

    @JustAThoughtSD ,you are not Tequila anymore ?

  30. California SB says:

    westcoast: “I asked one guy he looked at me … suspiciously”

    OMG guys are such sissies…. jeeez.

  31. Theresa says:

    Right now, I would do just about anything-read “just about” just to get a SD. I haven’t had relations in oh about 6 months and it’s driving me up the wall. I can be quite the promiscuous little honey back in the day, but then I realized that I was throwing myself away to any cute little thing in a pair of pants. Now that I’m older and wiser, I no longer want to give it up to poor, but pretty little boys, but an older handsome man!! Emphasis on MAN!!! I mean I can be quite the naughty little thing, why waste it on some minimum wage non-educated idiot who won’t even appreciate my efforts. Nope I’m done. Like my Momma use to say, “Don’t throw your pearls to amongst the sows.” I won’t be throwing my “pearls” to the pigs any longer. I’m waiting for the lions.
    @madridista Thanks, you just reminded me that I need to register for next semester.

  32. JustAThoughtSD says:

    Youre right, but i still want to see them all in the nude.

    I’m still here, I just had to deal with some Halloween mojo, but it got alot better as the nite went on. Always glad you have me in mind when you have drinks in your hand. LOL

    sugar rehab? Just try not to drop off the map, ok? You have blogmates now.

  33. Tina says:

    Ahhh Phoneguy – always the one seeing the lighter side of things 😉

  34. Phoneguy says:

    Just to make sure you aren’t misunderstanding terminology, “body shot” does not imply naked. Most men want a body shot before meeting. They want to make sure that the body type you describe in your profile matches their expectations. It does not mean they need to see you nude.

  35. AnnaMW says:

    @ Honey – You crack me up girl. I miss your antics! I’ve been caught up in RL and haven’t been around much. Glad you’re doing well!

    Regarding promiscuity – I try not to judge other peoples personal lives. If I were in a sugar relationship, I would feel very uneasy about my partner having other SBs and would expect that he would feel the same about my having other SDs. I don’t like it when specific restrictions are placed on the rest of my personal life. One night stands were never my style and if a RL relationship developed, the arrangement would end…. Basically, I was fine with monogamy but didn’t want to be told not to look.

    About travel – Ive only traveled more than a few hours to meet one person. I made my own flight arrangements, but spent so much time getting to know him that I wasn’t concerned about him paying me back. I probably could have asked him to send the $$ ahead of time, but thought it was a good faith gesture on my part. He made me a reservation at a 5 star resort, had no expectations of sex and set me up very nicely for taking the time to meet him. He was a complete gentleman and a wonderful person. He did a great job at wooing me and making me feel comfortable. It incentivized me to be the best partner I could be. Who wouldn’t bend over backwards for a guy that treated them that well??

    I hear so many stories about losers and a**holes but that really hasn’t been my experience!

  36. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    Your post just showed up in my computer.

    Welcome to our blog – I used to live in Manhattan , there are good SDs, jerks ans some Amazing SDs in there.
    It is hard in NYC – a lot of girls in there, young , model beautiful , smart, sexy.
    Guys are spoiled – they have So so many choices.

    I created profile at SA here on West Coast and closed it in 7 days ! Coz I got 3 good offers from 3 good guys (SDs).

    In NYC I usually e mailed back and forth for 2-3 weeks before I meet the pot in person.

    At West Coast all pots I met tell me how beautiful my body, how smart I am, how much fun and how cute I am. they r like “you probably have a lot of pots , you are so great, why would you choose me…”

    And they are very good guys ! generous , handsome , smart, succesful .

    Well, I did not like NYC at all at almost every aspect of living in there.
    I am very happy I moved.

  37. Tina says:

    @WCSD: unfortunately with the irregulars you run into the chance that you COULD hit things off really well, and then the distance becomes a/the major issue. As long as you walk into it knowing and realizing that this could be a roadblock, it’s all fun and games and no one loses an eye! 🙂 My distraction and I have already discussed that we’re both happy in the regions that we live in, and have no intention of moving. We both have established lives and ties to where we are at as well, but we’ll ride this fun roller coaster until they turn of the lights at the carnival. 🙂

  38. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Thank you for your answer.


    Yes, less chances these relationship (with multiple SD) would become too personal .
    That would work for me. 🙂


    With sugar from multiple SDs

    “мы не подвержены риску умереть от любви” А. Свиридова . 🙂

    As long as everyone having fun and Happy.


    No volunteers ! for Altoids , guys are more conservative than me , I guess. 🙂

    I asked one guy he looked at me … suspiciously … and asked if I read it in “50 shades” 🙁

    Ok, I will just keep trying :)))

  39. WCSD says:

    @Tina – Hi right back to you!

    I couldn’t agree more with your assessment of the irregular arrangements. I completely agree with the honesty and openness aspect needed (not that I think you don’t need that when local, but I do seem more conscious of it with distance). I definitely agree that it doesn’t result in a regular allowance to be ‘depended’ on, but I don’t find I’m attracted to SBs who ‘must’ have our relationship to survive anyway, so maybe this is just another of my screening tools…

  40. Tina says:

    @Wounded: unfortunately there are the flakes, freak and kinks out there. You have to ensure that you have a good screening process during your initial communication with them. Based on your bad experiences, I would recommend that you start your initial meets with a quick coffee and conversation – something that if he left you with the check, that you could pay and leave without sacrificing rent. Never put yourself on an initial meet where you feel trapped (physically or financially), and don’t be afraid to walk out if he has unacceptable behavior. If you require that he treat you with respect, and he doesn’t, then it isn’t the right arrangement for you. Period.

    You mentioned that with one rude gentleman that after his turn-off behavior you were going to discuss the allowance with him? Huh? WHY? If you’re not interested in honestly being with the person, don’t even bother. That sugar would go sour VERY quickly!

    Naked pictures are NOT common. Do NOT send any (I’m sure you already know this, I just had to say it). The good guys will wait until the time and chemistry is right, and will memorize all the goodies in 3D, no pictures necessary. As you read through the blog, you’ll see the horror stories of pictures and first meets. You’re not alone.

    Just remember that you will meet the creeps, freaks and kinks from time to time, but there ARE wonderful men out there who are also SDs. Many of them are actually contributors on this blog…..actually, I’m pretty crazy about all of our blogs SDs 😉

    You will have to adjust your filtering technique as you go along in your sugar experience, and don’t be afraid to say “no” to something that doesn’t feel right. Always keep yourself safe, and NEVER give up your principles.

  41. Tina says:

    @WCSD: Hi! 🙂

    @flyr and WCSD: from an SB perspective, I actually quite agree with you on the “irregular” arrangements. Oddly enough I’m finding the distraction I have to fall into that category, and it’s nice. Because of some distance, we don’t have the opportunity to fall into a daily rut, and we have to make a conscious effort to see each other. And, due to that fact, it is keeping it fresh and fun! There is a downside, of course, and we’ve already discuss the openness for both sides to find someone closer if we so desire or the opportunity presents itself. The only stipulation that we’ve put on it is that we have to be honest about the other relationship(s) regardless of the type (sugar, IRL, etc).

    For the irregular sugar to work, you have to have good communication, honesty, and set some expectations surrounding the inevitable “distance” issues. You have to answer questions such as who travels to who, frequency, allowance/sugar expectations, monogamy (sugar and non), and anything else that might pop up. It really isn’t any different than a traditional sugar relationship, but you just have to be more conscious about keeping the communication open since sometimes distance can cause a drift if you don’t. We talk on the phone, e-mail, and text when possible. And we both understand that there are times that it might not be possible, which can lead to one or both feeling a little attention deprived. We’ve discussed it, and stated that if this happens, all the other has to to is say that they need a little more attention, and *poof*, it shall be done 🙂

    You never know what can pop into your life if you let it. For irregular arrangements to work, you have to let go of some strict expectations of what the relationship is, and also not have to have a regular allowance to survive or be satisfied. But to me, you shouldn’t enter into a sugar lifestyle with the need for allowance anyway, since it puts undue stress on both parties, but I digress 🙂

    Hope everyone is having a wonderful Friday!

  42. RussianSB says:

    @Wounded, it is not normal to ask naked pictures, I think even escort in the websites have in-lingerie picturs. I don’t see the point espesially if the girl have swimsuite pictures.
    I am not remember I was asked naked pictures. Thank you for sharing, becouse every girl think that only she have negative experience. It is very sad not to meet at least one decent guy in one year. Google, high income and veryfication not guarantee that person is generouse. But wrong behaivoir you can see from phone talks and mails. You just not good in ”reading behind the lines”, but that you gain only with experience. I am good in reading hidden hints, so my flakes all gentelmen 🙂
    It is why I am not recomend to travel, imagine, all that bad dates + travel to them ?

  43. California SB says:

    I LoveWestCoastGirl: ” why do you need 3 more SDs”

    Babe… SD are busy people. It might happen here and there they won’t be able to see me, then how the heck am I going to have that extra cash I love for shopping at Lord & Taylor??????? So, having 4, I will know that no matter what, I will always have at least 25% chance that I will get some allowance each month. The probability theory comes in handy in those times. When you guys learn that…. you won’t settle for just one. 😛

  44. Treasured says:

    Hi all 🙂

    I am officially going to the “sugar rehab”, before all this gets in too serious. I love the perks, but I think it is time for me to quit.

    I already made the decision before to never ever depend/rely on any man after I finish my studies… But, actually, I think I can do it all by myself 😀

    I am done with the frog kissing.

    Will keep a few contacts I have now, but will not be looking for anyone new.

    Good luck to everybody else 😀

  45. WCSD says:

    I’m with both flyr and Jack on the ‘irregular’ arrangements. Most (not all, but definitely most) have been those kind of arrangements for me. Is it once a month? Twice? Every other? Really it depends on merging schedules and opportunities. To me these type keep things fresh, along with keeping the ‘serious relationship’ out of the relationship.

    @ILWCG – My guess would be having 4 SDs is one of the ways that California SB keeps things out of the relationship zone with any one of them. In the end, it is all to each their own. Some like monogamy (whatever that means in most sugar relationships) and some like to juggle. What I’ve always said to any pot or SB I’ve had is do what you want on your time, but realize there are consequences if it leaks into our time. So if each SD is getting what they want, and so is California SB, then who cares if it is 4, or 1, or 10? But once one is getting bumped for another (and yes, it is never presented that way, it is a friend who is sick, family for a surprise visit, etc.) then that SD will start to find a replacement.

  46. Atina says:

    Hi everybody!

    I am new to both the site and sugar relationships. I find the blog extremely interesting and hope you accept new members :). On the topic- I believe that I will be monogamous even if only because I just don’t have enough time to meet more that one SD at the same time. I didn’t like registered SD from my country(the choise is really small), I work five days a week so weekends are the only free time. I am curious- how some of you find time to have several SD? They are all from the same town or?

    PS: I apologize in advance for my English- it isn’t my first language and it’s quite posible to make mistakes.

  47. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    R u kidding or you are serious about 4 SD.?

    If you see this guy once a week and he is $$$$$ generous (tall, handsome, good sex) – why do you need 3 more SDs?

    Sorry to ask, just clarifying .

  48. California SB says:

    Flyr: “the accidental boyfriend”

    In my opinion, if you see someone more than once a week, talk on the phone two or three times a day, confide things to each other, that’s not sugar anymore that’s a relationship. I’m not sure if I want a SD boyfriend. Not even accidental. Meeting each of them (:P) once or twice a month is good enough for me.

  49. flyr says:

    I am with Jack on what might be called the irregular arrangement. For whatever reason it’s not going to work on a weekly basis (usually geography) but there still an interesting woman, fun extends well beyond the bedroom, often some mentoring that continues via phone and email and some sugar that helps the world spin.

    The most obvious question is ,”Isn’t that play for pay .” And the answer is no. It’s play when we can. Sweeten to mutual taste.

    Over the years I have had a number of these some lasting 3-5 years. Usually they ended when the SB finished grad school and moved off to start a new career and find a husband.

    Were I not involved in a pretty intense SB relationship that started as an evening a week, but became more frequent, I would be open to another irregular relationship. I think I have been reclassified as the accidental boyfriend.

  50. California SB says:

    What’s up peeps? Going on a third date with my new SD next wed. Tall, OK handsome, OK equipment but best of all…. very generous$$$$$. I do have to drive 1.5 hrs to meet him every time but who cares… So, I have 3 SDs so far. Two of them I only see once a month, and this new one we are seeing each other every other week. My goal is to have 4. 😛 So, one more and I’m all set with my “male harem”. 😛

  51. Jack says:


    Why fly them at all? A couple of reasons:

    1) Although the chance is low for an arrangement, it’s not zero, and it will be higher next year and the year after as my schedule lightens up significantly. Who knows what the future brings? One of the four, for example, lives in LA but was thinking of relocating to Houston (just like Russian SB is!). A connection made now may yield an arrangement or something else later.

    2) I enjoy dating, and having someone spend a few days with me is a fun way to date–for both of us. The lady gets to travel for free (and then some), and we both get to enjoy each other’s company. There has also been some mentorship involved in these visits. Although I realize some folks here feel this site is just for arrangements, I don’t really view this site to be that narrow in focus, and apparently, others agree. Also, I specifically note this possibility (weekends spent together if someone lives a fair distance from Houston) in my profile, and it seems to have been of interest to some SB’s as well as to me.


  52. Wounded says:

    I know the title of the blog it does not call for this but I really wanted to get an advice. And I would love to hear your experiences. Is it a norm to be asked a naked full body pics? Do you get that kind of questions?

  53. Wounded says:

    Hello Ladies, and Gentlemen,

    first, I would love to say thank you RussianSB, California SB, Midwest SB, I LoveWestCoastGirl, LookingGlassSB, Honey, Lady Vuitton, Treasured, Guru…in general all of you…I’ve read your advices in different postings and I’ve learned a great deal.

    But I still have a hard time finding a truthful Daddy that keeps his words. Most of them are liars. I’ve been here exactly one year. I get tons of email and winks which it doesn’t go any where. After a couple of emails the request they have is mind boggling!

    There is this guy which I was emailing back and forth until last week, and we were suppose to meet around Grand Central for a drink. The day before we suppose to meet he asked for pictures that was fine if it was normal pics but he wanted a body shot! He was coming to meet me from Connecticut. I just ignored him.

    Just yesterday, the other guy I was talking a real estate firm owner begged for pictures so I send him a pic which I took at work. So we kept emailing and finally, he emailed his number and I called him with *67 blocked my number.

    He asked “where I was” and I said in the Upper East and he said, “I’m in midtown why don’t come over?” And I wanted to know what was the plan? “Come and let us make love,” and then I said, “he was just quiet.) He claims to be a CEO that he is. He owns the company, wrote a book or two but what a disappointment that was—talking to him!!!

    There was this guy I called Big D (dog) that I went out to dinner in West Mid Town two months ago. Obnoxious, over weight more than what he showed in the pics, loud, rude to waiters and no table manners. At the end of the dinner while I was thinking how to bring the topic—allowance he said, “I’m full and ready to test drive.” I act like I didn’t understand and I said what do you mean with sweet smile. And I said, “I need more time to know you.” He said, “what is there to know.”

    He got really pissed and got up went to the bathroom. I thought he was going to leave me there with the check. He came back and said “I’ll tell you what I want. We’ll go to my apt and play, you will please me in every way then I’ll give you what you deserve…”

    Oh my God! My jaw dropped, my face felt like I was thrown into the furnace and turned red!!! I wanted to leave before I started to cry but I couldn’t move. “Don’t you worry! You will get something at the end. If we like it we will do it once a week.” I wished I could have slapped or spit at him and leave but instead we got up together, walked out the restaurant outside the only thing I could say was “you are an asshole. Go fuck yourself and walked away!” I walked in the middle of Time SQ crying. I was not able to stop my tears until 3 hours that night. I ended up with an upset stomach and headache into the morning.

    All I need is one sane SD. I would see him once or twice a week for LTR. I’m busy with school and work. I’m up front about the requirement –an arrangement with a monthly allowance. I’m very sincere in communicating this from get go.

    To answer your question that might arise: Yes I googled him before I met him and was really excited to meet him that night. He owns his own clothing company. He emailed me his website. It was a little disappointing to see him face to face of course for the pics were taken 10 Years ago. The age difference is close to 22 years.

    I didn’t mind if he was a nice person, had manners, and class. I know it is not me. I’ve been told I carry myself very well. I wear a black cocktail dress and black heels with hair up-do! Is it because I’m darker complexion he made that assumption?

    In general, I’ve not been lucky at all. What is it on my profile which attracts weirdo’s only?

    In advance, thank you!!! Your advice is appreciated.


  54. Tina says:

    @Jack: right now I work Tuesdays, but e-mail me and maybe we can catch dinner if you would like 🙂

    @Guru: I would be happy to share with you but only in person and only if I get to feed you some of my baked goods at the same time 😉

  55. RussianSB says:

    20 years adults , but not always smart adults. SBs posting here, less than hundred, while reading (lurking) thousand

  56. RussianSB says:

    20 years adults , but not always smart adults. SBs posting here, less than hundred, while reading (lurking) thousand

  57. Jack says:


    I don’t feel responsible for other persons’ actions–especially adults, like we all are here. In addition, I think the ladies that blog here (even the young ones) are more aware of the potential pitfalls than most SB’s. Finally, although anything can end badly, I think that just a few precautions–discussed often on this blog–can lower that risk to almost nothing.

    And I made it clear that I wasn’t pushing or recommending anything–just pointing out some indisputable facts.

    As to my traveling to Moscow–I would absolutely love to do that one of these days, but not anytime soon, I’m afraid. Indeed, I just looked at my calendar tonight and realized that literally every weekend between now and Jan 22 is committed to either be with my girls or to travel somewhere in the US or abroad, or with other commitments here in Houston. I have an extremely busy Nov, Dec and Jan coming up.

    Tina, by the way, I have an oral argument at the Texas Supreme Court in Austin on Tues, Jan 8!


    • SD Guru says:

      “the porn on my phone is personal video style. What? Don’t give me that look”

      You mean the “why don’t you share those videos with me” look? :mrgreen:

      “Porn is for the fresh and newbies who needed to learn only, not at this fine establishment, is that right?”

      As you can see by Tina’s example, at this fine establishment we make our own porn! 😉

      “I did Not try Altoids … yet… no volunteers I have”

      Are you kidding me? Just say the word and I’m sure you’ll have more volunteers than you have Altoids! 😛

      “The biggest turn off of all was that he seemed emotionally needy, depressed, and unstable”

      Thanks for clarifying your situation. I thought there was too much conjecturing in the blog without your presence and I’m glad you got a chance to tell your story. At some point we all learn things the hard way so don’t beat yourself up over it. Were you not able to get a sense of his mental/emotional issues before you decided to buy the ticket?

      “I was straight up with all of them in advance that the likelihood of an arrangement was very low given my work schedule and custody schedule”

      If that’s the case, why fly them to you at all?

      “I am only saying that having a rule against travel will screen out some decent pot SD’s.”

      It’s no different than some SB’s preference for a certain age group or single vs married SD’s. Any preference will screen out some decent pot SD’s. Some SB’s will prefer SD’s who can go visit them, knowing that it’s a trade off they’re willing to make.


      You forgot to mention having drinks at the Signature Lounge with a panoramic view of the city, and dinner cruise on the lake. Also, brunch at the Bongo Room!

  58. RussianSB says:

    We will loose all our skills !
    But I even find new skills in me !

  59. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    I am nasty disaster. Moove, Sugars, don’t wait for interesting proposals,
    practise in real life more.

    You are SO SO correct !

    If we do not practice how do we keep up our skills :))

  60. RussianSB says:

    Jack, I am serious (and I told Twiceshy the same), young immature creatures reading our blog, sure we sharing our opinions freely, but we mustn’t encourage young ladies to travel.
    You know it can end really bad, I don’t want to feel responsible for that and you ?

    I can fly to you without questions, you know 🙂
    Someone travel and someone not. Simply like that.

  61. RussianSB says:

    Now, I MUST go to Huston ! Are you sure, Jack, that you don’t want to travel to Moscow for a few weeks with your welcoming party to relax from Huston life ? We will do nothing… lie like vegetables… 12 hours per day ? Are you joking ?

  62. RussianSB says:

    What we learn today, my friends, that all I need – just go out from my appartment !
    I am nasty disaster. Moove, Sugars, don’t wait for interesting proposals,
    practise in real life more.

  63. Jack says:

    Russian SB, if you move to Houston, I promise I’ll be your welcoming party!

    As to Midwest’s comments that insisting that a pot SD travel for the first meet is a “good screening tool”–unfortunately, that’s a hard conclusion to draw because of an exclusion bias, namely, that Midwest cannot know the quality of the SD’s who DIDN’T travel to see her, so she cannot know whether the ones that didn’t pass her “screening” were good, bad or no different from the ones that did travel.

    It is true that some successful quality SD’s travel a lot on business and for them, traveling to the pot SB is no problem at all. It is ALSO true that some (presumably quality) SD’s cannot travel that easily, especially if they have 50% custody of their children and work 70-hr weeks when they don’t have their children (this is my situation).

    Again, I am not stating the above to recommend to any SB that she should travel for a first meet. I am only saying that having a rule against travel will screen out some decent pot SD’s. As I stated in another post above–and as many others have stated–I think the pot SD should pay for all expenses of the first meet because the SB is investing her time to travel, so he (at minimum) should invest the money to make it cost-free to the pot SB. His willingness to do so, and his doing it as he said he would, and on time, is itself a good screening tool (a comment made by three of the four SB’s who traveled to see me).


  64. RussianSB says:

    @I LoveWestCoastGirl, no-no, signora, me English mucho bueno from blog exersise, your English become worse from reading my posts. Maybe sight also 🙂
    Where is TequilaSD, Proseco talking in me. Today party – no comments. But I have grate opportunity to attract attention, manage to flirt with 3 man (to the blog topic !) , now just need to wait the result of my uncontrolled good sparkling mood. Actually flirting with number 2 and 3 was only to tease number one – my old (sexless) friend with white knight sydrome (chronical diagnose in his case) and number 4 (just remember!) – his boss (just a little bit , to charm him). Ok, with boss I dance latino style music.
    I am very unsatisfied with my behavoir and these cheap trics .
    But I have really good time tonight.
    He just provoce me – he not invite me to go with him. I was invited by someone else and meet him there. HUGE MISTAKE. I need to use your dangeon I heard about.

  65. ContentSB says:

    @Midwest — Thanks for your great suggestions! The piano bar in MSP is by far my favorite bar here, so I was looking for something similar in Chicago and came across The Redhead and Howlin’ at the Moon. The reviews seemed mixed, but overall in favor of your suggestion, so I’m glad I asked just to solidify that 🙂 Thanks again! I hope grad school is going well for you!

  66. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Honey. Omg . I think I am trying to improve my English by reading RussianSB posts. 🙂
    But really I am super tired.

    I had my Escala moment / meeting today. And I survived trick or treating yesterday.

  67. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    I did met a few great, amazing guys at SA.

    I could have met them IRL but I would not have any relationship with them.
    But then you meet a guy at sugar site – you both know what you are looking for , and that you are looking for same things (most of the time) for NSA , fun, relaxing, sexual kind of relationship.

    For example – I go to a bank , and meet a VP of the bank and even chat with him – no way he and me r going to think or to discus , just , in case , if “…you are looking for a new sexual partner and if you would except financial help…” right?
    If I meet a guy at sugar site and he is VP of a bank (just by chance) you are going to discuss his sexual priorities and how generous he thinks he is. 🙂

  68. Tina says:

    Hiya Midwestie babe! I was wondering when I would see you back on here again, especially with Content asking about the Chicago area!

    So, with Halloween now past and the “holiday” season now upon us, I’ve actually started seriously thinking about what to get the special people in my life for Christmas. Anyone want to share the sugary sweet gifts they have given or received? (I’m sure this will be a future blog topic anyway, but it’s on my mind now……)

  69. Midwest SB says:

    Ellen – I’m glad you came out of it with a realistic attitude, safe and wiser.

    I’ve been in three long distance arrangements. Travelling was expected, but here is what I learned…
    There is a lot to be said for asking a man to come see you on the first meet. First of all, you have to realize that you’re worth it and he knows it’s the chivalrous thing to do. If you have to wait a few weeks or a month to meet him, it’s fine. Many of these men travel to metropolitan areas for business, therefore, a visit can be arranged to either meet close by or have him come see you. I live about 60-90 minutes from two major airports and 20 minutes from the local airport where there are many connections. Two men flew here to meet me,and one drove 2 hours to meet. The only man I flew to see arranged for me to travel into my hometown and he drove there to meet me. We were familiar with one another, communicated for a long time, and I was in very familiar territory staying with friends. I did not spend the night or have sex with any of them on the first meeting. A man who will have enough interest and respect for your safety is definitely worth waiting for and he will see you as worth the effort. I see it as a wonderful screening tool.

  70. Midwest SB says:

    Heyyyy sugars!

    Tina – (in my best John Wayne voice) “Well hello there pilgrim, bwaha.”

    ContentSB – The Rose restaurants are all yummy, but if you want something local, go to Cafe’ Iberico for tapas. Every time I’ve taken someone new, they LOVE it! Go before 7 or after 9, otherwise plan on waiting a bit. Amazing food! Roy’s is delicious and they have great pineapple martinis! Met a certain someone for the first time there 🙂 Howlin’ at the Moon is always a good time too (if you like high energy piano bars that play from all eras…not so much a dancing place). Excalibur has four floors with a different kind of music on each floor.

  71. RussianSB says:

    @Honey, nobody have time for real relationship. It is just an illusion. When SD need to travel new place every day… and have possibility to give any allowance, he still don’t have a time even for NSA Sugar relationship . But he is looking for such.
    I love workoholics !

  72. Honey says:

    Houston has it’s perks. ask phoneguy, yeah, i had been dating this englidh guy and when this other english guy call me I thought it was him or something set up by him, what are the odds? we had jut decided to just be friends when this other guy called and I told him I had a boyfriend, was going out that night with him and he said if that didn’t work out to give him a call back, I couldn’t because I had just gotten back from Costa Rica and my phone wasn’t switched over to take foreign calls, but he call me back, we talked went out for a few days….but that’s Another story..he was upset that I wanted to call us a one night stand type thing”two ships passing in the night” with him working all the time and having two houses in England, who has time for a real relationship?

  73. Tina says:

    @Phone Guy: what’s your number? I’ll be your misdial 😉

  74. Phoneguy says:

    You find guys who will take you to Thailand for weeks via wrong numbers? I need to start answering my phone more often. 😉

  75. RussianSB says:

    I will moove to Dallas maybe… oh, no, to Huston !

  76. RussianSB says:

    hats, guns,no entrance-private property – I loveee it !

  77. Tina says:

    Thanks RussianSB! I made sure he had a hat and gun just for you! 🙂

  78. RussianSB says:


  79. Tina says:

    Ah HA! There! I’m now all Pilgrim Minion-ed out! teehee

  80. Tina says:

    ….please feel free to applause when Gravatar updates me………

  81. Tina says:

    In honor of November and the upcoming US Thanksgiving holiday, I present to you the Pilgrim Minion as my avatar. Hold your applause please. Bah, forget it, applause away! 🙂

  82. RussianSB says:

    Yes, Lady V – time for tea !

  83. RussianSB says:

    Grrrate, but I have been mistaken, said party. I will a lot of party – I am going to have soon two free of work weeks. I will, if some pot don’t steal my time inviting me to ocean drive. But I won’t complaning about 🙂

  84. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Hi RussianSB

    How was the party?

    Five o,clock – Do you mean for afternoon tea?

  85. RussianSB says:

    @LadyVuitton, five o clock?

  86. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Glad you like the idea VASD..

    Who knows what will happen in the future? Maybe a low key event can be arranged.

  87. VASD says:

    @ Russian @Tina @Lady V Thank you for the compliments. I like SBs with good taste…and who taste good.

  88. VASD says:

    @Russian I’ve had some very nice Russian black tea before.

    A low key SA tea party at the Ritz wouldbe much nicer than the LA Hustler party. Even better if just friends from the blog : )

  89. Honey says:

    Mate1,yahoo, wrong numbers…I get around…lol! I meet great guys everywhere!

  90. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    I did Not try Altoids … yet…

    no volunteers I have . 🙂

  91. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    You wrote you have never met any SDs/guys at SA site!
    Which sites do you use? they are so much better?

  92. ContentSB says:

    Hi Sugars! Hope everyone is having a wonderful and happy Halloween!!

    I’m going to Chicago this week and wondering if any of you have any unique “must go to” restaurants or bars?

  93. Honey says:

    Janine, I think you have to move to Houston!

  94. Janine says:

    I’m from Detroit too! I was wondering if anyone here was in my area.

  95. flyr says:

    @ellenSB “Lesson learned (again): Do not travel for a first meet. If so, have a plane ticket paid for, hotel paid for, rental car paid for, and allowance given to me prior to departure. Meet in a neutral public place”

    I will disagree on only one point. I think “requiring” an allowance before a meeting , even if you travel (at pot SD expense) eliminates a lot of real SD.

    I think the first meeting should be looked at as an investment by both. You are investing some time and the SD is making it a zero financial downside risk event.

  96. California SB says:

    Polyfaithful sounds a lot like the sugar blog. LOL

  97. California SB says:

    Wikipedia says: “Polyfaithful relationships are, like monogamous relationships, closed in the sense that partners agree not to be sexual outside the current members of the group. The difference is that more than two people are included in the closed group. New members may generally be added to the group only by unanimous consensus of the existing members, or the group may not accept new members.”

    Hahah… what a riot.

  98. China Rose says:

    Also, if your SD is married I don’t think it can ever really count as monogamous. I’m polyfidelitous (so yay all the people who came out as poly!!), and I think that fits that situation much more than monogamous. If you’re married to someone else, you’re not monogamous. It’s polyfi, simple as that.

  99. China Rose says:

    @ VA ans RussianSB

    I can’t understand not drinking black tea with milk! I think we should reconsider who the real barbarians are…those milk-less tea tea drinking, black coffee sipping type.

    I actually had high tea at the Ritz for my 15th birthday. I see my 15 year old lady-self with a fascination hat cocked sideways…and ankles crossed. It was so cute! But, here in San Francisco we have little tea parlours that half the price and just as fabulous.
    I want to go to your Ritz soiree too! >:(

  100. JustAThoughtSD says:


    You wanted to do it. You did it safely. I will not say I told you so. I said be careful, be safe, have a plan, meet some other sbs out that way (that actually would have hung out with you and made your trip more worthwhile.) These still were merely suggestions. You’re grown. If you wanna pay for all of your trips, that’s your business. I’m glad that you got the parking paid. Not everyone will hit 100% all the time.

  101. Tina says:

    The definition of promiscuity seems to change between time and culture. Keep in mind that in the US a woman was deemed a “harlot” for showing her ankles at one point, and in some cultures today this is still somewhat true.

    Personally, I believe that promiscuity is a thought process; a person is promiscuous when having intercourse with multiple different partners for no other reason that their own enjoyment. Not love, not attraction necessarily, just their own need for that fulfillment. I have had multiple partners in a year once or twice in my life, but it was because I enjoyed their company and was attracted to them physically. The sex was about mutual satisfaction and fun.

    I prefer to have 1 man in my life at a time so that I can focus on just him. I like to put a lot of energy into finding out what makes a person tick and what makes him feel special, and that’s REALLY tough to do with multiple partners for me. And if, heaven forbid, I do the same thing for both of them because it’s something they would both enjoy, I would actually feel like I’m cheapening the effort; I would feel like it isn’t something special any longer, since it isn’t something that only one of them had done. I hope that ramble makes sense 🙂

    Condoms? Yes. Skipping the STD discussion (Guru, bring on the dead horse!), pregnancy isn’t something that I’m ready for right now in my life for a variety of reasons. ‘Nuff said.

    Have a safe Halloween night all! 🙂

  102. California SB says:

    Promiscuous girl whatever you are I am all alone and it’s you that I want.
    Sang Nelly Furtado in ’06. Good times!!

  103. EllenSugarB says:

    On promiscuity – Does it matter? Maybe it does. I don’t have a hard-line view on these things. Honestly, I don’t even think that an arbitrary number can dictate if someone is promiscuous. Promiscuity is a state of mind. Like, when a man says “I want to sleep with as many women as possible.” Thats what my friends call ” a dirty d!ck.” lol.

    My personal number is low. Then again, I’m lucky that the SDs I have had tend to stick around for a long time. If they just bailed after a month, that would be really crappy because my number would probably start climbing. Now that I am “on the market” looking for a SD, I’m guessing the number for 2013 is going to be a little higher than prior years. But lets hope not!

    I would prefer ONE SD only: Monogamy. Protected sex.

    If I loved the guy and wanted to get pregnant by him: Unprotected sex.

  104. California SB says:

    He only reimbursed you for your ticket, bought you dinner and gave you a miserable 100 bucks for parking????? Oh dear.. what a total jerk. Again, lesson learned for all of us naive sugars. Now let’s move on!! 🙂

  105. EllenSugarB says:

    BTW…After I bought the plane ticket, my instincts started to tell me not to go. Then, I figured what the heck, I’ve never tried it before so I will try it. Worst case scenario, I’m out $700 and a day of travel. Thankfully, he did reimburse me for my travel even thought he didn’t have to. But he did and that was nice. He also gave me $100 to cover my parking and have dinner at the airport. He didn’t need to do that, either.

    Lesson learned (again): Do not travel for a first meet. If so, have a plane ticket paid for, hotel paid for, rental car paid for, and allowance given to me prior to departure. Meet in a neutral public place when I arrive. (And yes, there ARE real SDs out there who will do that. And there are real SDs who will not – and I will not meet those SDs 🙂 )

    Ok…now everybody all together say “WE TOLD YOU SO!”

    You did! Heck, I myself have given this exact advice to others – and I didn’t even listen to myself! Now therein lies the problem lol!

    BUT, do I regret it? Absolutely not! Nothing bad happened to me so its no biggie.

  106. California SB says:

    Ellen: “he seemed emotionally needy, depressed, and unstable”

    The red flag was when he made you buy your own 700 bucks ticket. Lesson learned for all of us. Never fly to meet a guy who can’t even buy you a plane ticket. He is not a gentleman, not a happy person and probably broke too. Last week someone blew me off at a bar, the very next day I met a new SD who gave me the largest allowance ever. So, after a loser there is always a better guy. 😛

  107. EllenSugarB says:

    “This was NOT the first time Ellen mentioned traveling for a first meet…”

    You’re right! Apparently her “I am going to take it slow and feel this one out” lasted only a day. Silly of me for thinking those two instances weren’t related.”

    ***The two instances WERE NOT related.

  108. EllenSugarB says:

    Hi there- Just to answer some questions. Not sure whether to answer them here or on the prior blog…

    First, I never asked him about his income level. He shared it openly, and then changed his story. So, if he didn’t want it to be my business, then he could have kept his mouth shut about it in the first place. I didn’t ask, he volunteered the info – then, later, said something completely different. So he basically ratted himself out.

    In regards to flyr’s comment “stuck on stupid” Who me?…Stupid? LOL!

    How he makes his income and “he isnt a drug dealer or a pimp” … lets just say that tax evasion and lying under oath are things that don’t find particularly attractive. Second, there are places where pimping and drug dealing are LEGAL, and people in those professions still conduct business with integrity. This guy was into what I consider unethical business practice – it was a total turn off.

    The biggest turn off of all was that he seemed emotionally needy, depressed, and unstable. Im not desperate … for anything! And I don’t want to be around people who are emotionally draining. Allowance aside, travel aside … I just didn’t like the guy.

    Cali SB: “I hope you got $$$$$ and he had a BIG…” hahaha … you’re so naughty. Being how depressed he seemed – I think the sex would have been awful!

  109. JuicyFruit says:

    @SD Guru : Porn is for the fresh and newbies who needed to learn only, not at this fine establishment , is that right? 🙂
    @Phone guy: Being bitten over the phone…I can handle!!!

    Enjoy your tricks and treats everyone!

  110. EllenSugarB says:

    Hello! Happy Halloween!!!! I haven’t had a chance to catch up on the blog yet…but i’ll reply soon. In short, everything Guru said I agree with. Sometimes I just have to learn the hard way! Never again. I had never been open to traveling to meet someone for the first time, I had never done it before, and not that I tried it I will never do it again. If, by coincidence I happen to be in their city, then sure I will meet them. But I have no interest in traveling to someone for a first meet. Quite simply, there is no shortage of men willing to come to meet me for the first time – so I just don’t see the point.

    Hi Honey 🙂 Have a great trip to Costa Rica. Sorry I missed your post. And yes, if I’m ever in Houston again Id love to meet up with you.

  111. Tina says:

    @Guru dearest: the porn on my phone is personal video style. What? Don’t give me that look! 😉

  112. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    We should make that a date to go to the Ritz for afternoon tea, Russian SB and Tina.

    Anyone else like to join us?

    Now you SD’s who would like to come too?


  113. Tina says:

    Every time someone says Ritz I keep thinking of the Young Frankenstein scene where they are dancing to “Puttin’ on the Ritz”…..teehee….

    • SD Guru says:

      “Guru: you mean, porn isn’t a requirement of sugar? DAMN! Guess I better start returning some things”

      What do you need to return, don’t you already have porn on demand on your phone? 😛

      “can you give me some hints, examples of naughty tricks for this Halloween?”

      If you haven’t tried Altoids, tonight is the night to go for it. And if you’ve tried already, please tell us how it went! :mrgreen:

  114. RussianSB says:

    @IloveWestCoastGirl – belly. We finished, I switch relax music to hardrock during mezo.
    I thinking… I am pampering myself,or punishing ?
    Now I must go to party 🙂
    We have tea at Ritz served on finest china set (sigh) .

  115. Tina says:

    I like herbal teas! yummmmmmm!

  116. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    I do like afternoon tea.

    How about tea at the Ritz?

  117. RussianSB says:

    @VASD, spoiled boy you are ! Here in Russia we don’t have special tea selection, tea or black, or green. Or water from Moscow river

  118. Tina says:

    @LV: VASD has very good taste 😉

  119. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    А если будут синяки под глазами? Как на вечеринку идти?

  120. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Go for it RussianSB – mezotherapy x

  121. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    You have taste VASD

  122. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    “May your night be filled with tasty treats and naughty tricks… in the bedroom! ”

    You always tease , but … can you give me some hints, examples of naughty tricks for this Halloween ? 🙂

  123. RussianSB says:

    Lady Vuitton, I can chear you up a little bit, now (just at that moment) cosmetologist starting my mezotherapy .

  124. VASD says:

    @Russian Sb and Lady V I love a good honest tea–PG Tips is just fine for me–but never have been much of a fan of Earl Grey. Lapsang Souchong, though? Yeah….

  125. VASD says:

    @China Rose you’ve got mail.

    On promiscuity and the discrepency between men and women, I agree with flyr’s read. Guys often brag, overstate, and may count a minor case of stinky pinky as a score. Ladies often leave off the ones they’re embarrassed about (“Well…that never really happened…”).
    Also, something that likely doesn’t show up in the statistics are the pros. A guy may pad his numbers with a few visits to the oldest profession. But that oldest professional who may be sleeping with 2-3-5 guys a day, 50-100 a month probably isn’t appearing in the numbers.

  126. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Oh no Russian SB not the Earl Grey! I adore tea being English but not the Earl Grey.

    Make the Chicken Broth please

  127. RussianSB says:

    British people don’t drink Earl Grey with milk, but we, ignorant barbarians, do !

  128. RussianSB says:

    @Tina…. so you do wearing hats !!! And maybe gloves, while you are riding. Maybe you can do Lasso also, Dream of Ranchero ??

  129. China Rose says:

    If anyone has Earl Grey, make sure to throw in a generous dosage of milk. Milk tea makes everything better. Always.

    LV, it’s hard to drink, but my mom always made a mi of cayenne pepper, lemon (tea) and honey. I think it’s one my family’s “old southern black people thing that we brought to the west coast” and it will make you feel MUCH better.

  130. RussianSB says:

    Bathing in cold champane garantee you pneumonia. Put this idea out of your head, go to bed now, with big mug of Earl Grey !

  131. RussianSB says:

    @Lady Vuitton, slap on the face – sound nothing like me ! If only I can I make chicken broth myself for you, dear !

  132. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Most seem to say, Blog gods can you please exchange mine and China’s addresses.

    Hopefully it will be done in a day or so providing the ghosts havent got them tonight 🙂

  133. China Rose says:

    I’m still unsure how to go about doing this. Do I simply say “yes! let us exchange emails” and then wait for internet to do something? Or may I just post it here?

  134. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Lol I know Tina. It would be a chance I would be willing to take 🙂

  135. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: cooking in stilettos? NOPE! I like to cook in bare feet 9I can run around the kitchen easier) and save the stilettos for either a night out or the bedroom 😉 And don’t forget about the cowgirl hat and boots! Now THOSE I love! 🙂

    @LV: thanks! And I hope your cold gets better soon! Bathing in cool champagne? Ooooh, the bubbles would tickle naughty parts!

  136. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Glad you gave me a slap on the face Russian SB.

    Maybe this cold is taking hold of me! Perish the thought who would swap champagne for soup?

    I must have a temperature and a little delirium. Better bathe me in cool champagne and get the temperature down.

  137. RussianSB says:

    Where nowadays you will find SD who bring you soup… Lady Vuitton… Champane ? Yes.Tequila ? Yes. But soup ? Hold on, baby, it is all climate things !

  138. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    should be hope and not how. Tina.. My typing is going worse!

  139. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    I love distractions Tina so I how yours is a really great one .

    Glad to hear you still have a job but fingers crossed you get the promotion.

    I am good thanks but have cold. Could do with a lovely SD to wipe my fevered brow or at least bring me soup 🙂

    (Will let you know if I get any offers on that lol )

  140. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Happy to do so China.

    Lets exchange emails


  141. RussianSB says:

    Southern ladies in stilletos, baking cakes, that will do,Tina ??

  142. Tina says:

    @LV: well, life isn’t too bad right now! I’m still waiting to hear if I got the promotion at work, but I now know why I haven’t heard anything. There was a small layoff where I work, but I still have a job! YEAH! So, I definitely can’t complain! I have an interesting and fun distraction making its way into my life, so I’m sitting back and watching what develops there 😉

    How about you?

  143. China Rose says:

    @Lady – Thanks, this blog has already been enormously helpful. If you have time and/or the inclination to do so, might you critique my profile as well?

  144. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Hi Tina

    Is life treating you well?

  145. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Jack. Glad to see you back.

    I have missed your blogs

    Hope all is well with you

  146. Tina says:

    @Guru: you mean, porn isn’t a requirement of sugar? DAMN! Guess I better start returning some things…… 😉 and Happy Halloween to you too! Any big plans?

  147. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Good luck China with your adventure.

    You will get lots of good advice here.


  148. China Rose says:

    Yes blog gods, pleeeeeease give Honey my info, or me hers!

    I will cross my fingers. Also, I did a crazy profile revamp last night (again), and actually didn’t have wait long. They approved it around 5 am.
    also. if the gods (and goddesses..I’m sure there is at least one) decide not look favorable upon us, I’m sure I can figure out a way get it into a reply. I’ve seen other people spell it out. I lol at hot male dot com

  149. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Evening everyone!

    Happy Halloween.

    Who is dressing up tonight 🙂 ?

    RussianSB get yourself out to that party and enjoy


    • SD Guru says:

      “Make me think of those porn videos about the one girl with more than one guys at the same time lol…”

      We have people who watch porn at this fine establishment?? I’m shocked.. SHOCKED!! 😯
      That would be called an “orgy monogamist”, one who has the same multiple partners at the same time. :mrgreen:

  150. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: oh, Texas is SO much more than ladies in hats and gloves (who said I was a lady anyway? 🙂 ) And Texas makes cars too – Toyota has a plant in San Antonio now. So if Phone Guy ever visited, say, the Austin area he would feel right at home.

    @Jack: awww! Thanks for including lil ol Austinite me in your Houston par-tay! I hope your Nevada ranch trip was wonderful! (And I’m jealous! That’s par for the course, though 🙂 )

  151. RussianSB says:

    Both !!!
    Black bussness card for shopping !!!

  152. RussianSB says:

    Candys or life ! Or wallet or life !
    I don’t know for sure …

  153. RussianSB says:

    @Phoneguy, I live far far away, but even I know that Detroit make cars, and not at the south, where sun and southern ladies wearing elegant hats and gloves, yeah, Tina ?

  154. RussianSB says:

    @Treasured… hehehe….you definatly have talent to spot fakes ! Yes, he seems to be perfect , and his grammar is perfect. Write to him, Tresure, he will answer to you 3 page letter , ask him some questions and he poof. But do try, maybe you will be more lucky than me 🙂

  155. Phoneguy says:

    @Juicyfruit, you certainly seem to like being bitten.
    If the people on this site were willing to settle for what is typical or average they would not have gotten to where they are. I don’t mind looking for something that isn’t easy to find.

  156. Phoneguy says:

    Very cool. I work in Southfield which isn’t far from Palmer Woods. I am a Westsider. Born and raised in Dearborn (yea Ford). Still live on the westside, think west of Livonia and yes I made that reference for our Russian friends. 😉

  157. JuicyFruit says:

    @ phoneguy… Bite me… It was just IMHO about the general nature of the sugar bowl. About ability to decide on different things for different reasons are exceptional scenarios…. If a SB or a SD can find a sugar partner to be satisfied mutually ….and stay monogamous is like winning a lottery but still I doubt many of those will last long…. 😉
    @ Guru : About “serial monogamous”…. Why did you have to be so visualize about the guys who have one object can put in one object at a time…. Make me think of those porn videos about the one girl with more than one guys at the same time lol…

  158. Treasured says:


    I would say sounds like my perfect SD 😀 140915

    Seems like all the cool guys are in the States 😀

  159. Honey says:

    China, sugar is the same old game….Blog gods, please please please pass on my info to China Rose….and Ellen if she wants!! I got to go work city hall
    Phone guy where? name eastside, westside, I used to live in Palmer Woods.I was born in Detroit and raised in texas. that means I know all about every tpye of guns…. lol!

  160. twiceshy says:

    *sets her snowball on fire*

  161. RussianSB says:

    Sure, if SB live in very small SD-less town , the travel is only way.

  162. RussianSB says:

    nya-nya-nya, travel is timewaisting, stressful ,pain-in-the-assful idea

  163. RussianSB says:

    What is your bussiness commitments mean to SB, if you are potential SD and not become an arrangement SD, then she take a brake from her work/study to get stood up literally.

  164. twiceshy says:

    @RussianSB : @Twiceshy if ”nothing wrong with travelling to meet” why you don’t want to travel to your pot SBs ?? I don’t think it will be nice paid vacation for both if chemistry doesn’t work.

    Simply because of business commitments right now. There are also numerous visa requirements that SBs travelling to me don’t have to worry about. For example our government waived all Visa requirements for Russian citizens recently.
    *whistles quietly*

    Since I’ve successfully had people fly to me on two occasions with good results (initially) I don’t see it being an issue, although I understand the concerns. For an SD in my position it is simply a hell of a lot more convenient.

    I will note for SDs that I’ve also been scammed on a third occasion , where after cash was sent, and tickets bought , hotel booked, the SB just never showed up.

    Having the SB pay for her own travel and then reimburse would be the best of all worlds for a travel arrangement from the point of view of the SD. It would eliminate the possibility of being scammed.

  165. RussianSB says:

    @Phoneguy, now I must re-write all my Huston sex-statistics !

  166. Phoneguy says:

    Sorry, I was purposefully vague and it led to being misunderstood. I’m from Detroit.

  167. JustAThoughtSD says:

    Sugar, same as Life, is what you make it.

  168. JustAThoughtSD says:

    Did you go anywhere after the bedroom? Did he poof when you tried to talk to him about going somewhere before or after bedroom on your meets?

  169. China Rose says:

    Thank you kindly. I have been looking through the older posts, which only added to my apprehension, because some of the people commenting here have been around since 2009 (and probably before, I just haven’t gone back far enough). There was a thread where people posted experts from their pages, but I didn’t want to be a necro-poster and revive old topics.

    On a related to the thread at hand note:
    I think traveling by yourself into the unknown is totally safe. Whether for an adventure, or to meet a pot SD. I lived and traveled abroad alone at 15…and so far I have survived to the ripe old age of 20. Worse case scenario you get stood up. You can either stay and sight see alone or just fly home!

  170. Honey says:

    longhorn cattle, chili,bar be que. Only new york has more restaurants that Houston, I believe. Shiner bock, beer….

  171. Honey says:

    I have never used this site to find anyone. I find them on the other dating sites. Screen, Screen, Screen! I usually put ads out with my pics and my likes and wait. I don’t think I have answered 15 ads in the 10 plus years I have been using online dating. I used to dabble in matchmaking, Actual stuff, not escorts. But finding people that liked each other. So maybe that’s why I always got a great mix of guys, I let them come to me. The guy I was seeing first offered to send for me to come here during the Last Houston Hurricane, ike<,I believe. He was Italian. I have this thing for foreign engineers, or they have one for me! later i did go to Northern California, stayed in his spare bedroom in Carmel, the whole first time he invited me and DID not sleep with him, Even though most of my friends, Girls, said that it was expected" He's not flying you out just for a kiss." I thought no, a "sure thing" is an escort. and he sent for me again and we saw each other for almost two years… I kinda chose them by writing my ad.ladies if you want to replenish your wardobe, Italians will not balk at ANY maintenance, hair, nails,facials and be sure to take there advice on clotheing,esp. shoes! The french also…. I'm a collector, French, Danish, Italian, British, Scottish, german…always wanted a hat rack of my conquests, a kilt, kepi blanc, spiked ice boots and scuba gear since I often date engineers,lol!jewelry loupe pearls, I take Liz Taylors view on baubles. I am tired of pearls now, now looking for a red diamond, or pink one…maybe yellow…ooh shiny…sorry what was the topic? danish are not too bad either IMAHO…lol Humble Honey, that's me!! got a placed called Humble in Texas too! Closest I get to Humble.

  172. LookingGlassSB says:

    I haven’t had much success on this site.

    I must say that I don’t like being treated like a whore. The last one i was with…I’d go over to his house and basically the only place we would go is the bedroom. immediately. It was horrible :/

  173. LookingGlassSB says:

    Wow so I met this guy on here…it didn’t work out. And then I changed my profile.. changed my pictures.. And I get message from him. I thought, that’s strange, why didn’t he just text me? And the message said: “Would love to work something out.”
    So he basically didn’t even look at my profile. And he just made a fool of himself. LOL

  174. RussianSB says:

    Texas nesting dolls 🙂
    What kind of local famous food/drinks ?
    Actually I decide the best souvenir from Russia I can bring is beluga caviar + bottle of premium vodka (I forget to tell you last time). Always popular gentelman’s set !
    From Carrebean – box of Cohiba and local rum.
    New-Year is coming soon, in Moscow people already booking tables !!!

  175. Honey says:

    Cheap crap from walmart, we have all the malls,We shop, The galleria is old fashioned. But Singapore, They were opening a mall every week when I was there. I got tired of all the malls. One had a underground river running through it with gondola rides. one had all glass walls, even the elevators! Going up the escalator made you sit down.
    JatSd…I never really wanted to date the type of person he is. He is not bad, but maybe I am a hypocrite, but he is selfish, not in bed,can’t do that! but I talk to his family more than he does, he’s just not a nice person, he is nice to me,but people tell me what he does and says behind my back.He is an ass to people and then says he is not. I end up being his social secretary with people. he’s not good with people or compromise, a Nuclear and Mechanical Engineer. Used to work for Enron, (the good Part, he says)then Halliburton. He’s Like combination of Hank Hill and American Dad…..but the lying about stuff that can be easily found out? Too childish. It’s the little things, or maybe I’m just thankless and spoiled.

  176. RussianSB says:

    Honey, and what tourists bring home from Huston ?

  177. RussianSB says:

    And Phoneguy from Huston !
    I know what you can do, Huston Sugar society, you can exchange your dating experiense
    in your city, I mean you date same people from the site, but as it seems to me 1/3(10000) people on the site from Huston it is just impossible ! 🙂
    Thank you Honey for invitation, but I affraid to melt :). Yes I hear about Sugarland.

  178. Honey says:

    Phone guy, you too? Houston is an international city, we even have a city named Sugarland!Yes, Russian, you must come and bring your strings! The weather was lovely today,almost Hot! Too much snow will leave you pale, come get some sun in Texas!

  179. RussianSB says:

    Maybe, she is baking yammy cakes to seduce SD-boys 🙂

  180. RussianSB says:

    Honey is from Huston ! And Tina is your neighbour, but she is in her off-blog life today 🙁

  181. Phoneguy says:

    Looks like we have something in common. 😉

  182. Jack says:

    Russian SB,

    Yes, nice avatar!

    And who else on the blog is from Houston? I haven’t been reading on here much lately so perhaps I have missed the Houston folk.

    Maybe we should have a Houston/SB/SD/blogger party?

    And of course, the Austin/Dallas/other Texas folk (and non-Texas ones!) can come too!



  183. RussianSB says:

    I see only Huston folk in the blog ! Huston-to center, Huston-to center.
    I also going to have humidity today snow/rain mess, and very cloudy 🙁
    And getting colder, and slow traffic, coz nobody change season tires yet.
    Someone, shoot me please !

  184. Honey says:

    Good advice Jack and better that it comes from a guy!
    Ellen ..I had wondered…drop me a line Ellen!! Kiss!

  185. RussianSB says:

    Do you like my very positive avatar, Jack ?

  186. RussianSB says:

    Rich arabs also run away from UAE for extremally hot July and August to French Riviera.
    Clever of you 🙂

  187. Jack says:

    Hi Russian SB

    Hi to you too! Yes, Houston is very humid, but I have a pool in the backyard and you get used to it. In addition, July and Aug are the two worst months and I am out of Houston a large portion of those two months.


  188. RussianSB says:

    Jack, I hear (from the blog, of corse), that Huston high humidity city, did you notice that ??

  189. RussianSB says:

    You know good words, Jack, ”gentelmenly”

  190. California SB says:

    Tequila :So you’d rather get an STD from the hot guy you just met

    Well, when you see a guy that is just drop dead gorgeous you don’t think STDs. But when you meet someone in exchange of an allowance you do. I know it’s fucked up, but that’s how it is. A hot guy is a hot guy and condoms suck let’s be honest. 😛

  191. RussianSB says:

    Hi,Jack !!!
    You was right, I blog a lot !
    How are you ?

  192. RussianSB says:

    I Love West Coast Girl. Thank you, god bless you too ! Party is everywhere, all the time.
    I just need to moove my ass.

  193. Jack says:

    Hi all,

    Been at my Nevada ranch the past week so haven’t read the blog much, but somewhat caught up tonight.

    As to SB’s flying to meet me (a pot SD for the first time)–I have done that four times so far and have always purchased the ticket. Although many SB’s can afford the ticket (and should always have sufficient cash/credit cards/exit strategy if a “travel meet” goes bad), I don’t see why a good pot SD wouldn’t extend that courtesy, for a whole host of reasons:

    1) Presumably, even if the SB can afford the tickets, the SD can afford them even more easily.

    2) It’s a fair trade–she is investing getting ready and the time to make the trip–fair enough that he invest at least the expenses.

    3) I think it’s gentlemanly to do so.

    Let me add (I can feel the flaming already!) that in each case, the pot SB’s stayed at my house (or in my room in a hotel) without any pressure from me, and it worked out just fine all four times (in fact, three of the four could have potentially become an SB if they didn’t live sofar away) .

    I should point out that given my crazy work schedule these days and my 50% custody of my girls, I simply cannot invest the time to travel to meet someone, so either they are local or they travel to me (or we meet in a place where I have to travel to anyway).

    I am just sharing these experiences–not trying to convince anyone that this is something they should do. Let me also point out that I am extremely transparent, I am an open book, and almost everything I state in my profile can be verified via Google (although, interestingly, all four admitted thatthey did not do very thorough checking before coming to see me). In addition, I ALWAYS did what I said I would do, whether it was calling when I said I would, sending something, or booking the flights on a date certain. I think that gave the women a substantial degree of comfort (say what you’ll do and do what you say).

    All four of the women stated they had never previously traveled to see a pot SD and stayed with him sight unseen, but all said they felt comfortable doing so. I was straight up with all of them in advance that the likelihood of an arrangement was very low given my work schedule and custody schedule, and I pitched it as a fun time together, which it was three out of the four times. The fourth turned out to be not my cup of tea (even though before meeting her, I felt more positive about her than anyone else I have met on this site!) but I was still cordial, considerate and gentlemanly during her 3-day stay.

    Interestingly, one of the four completely refused all offers of money and gifts before or during our time together (although I did fly her out, of course, and paid for everything during our time together), and another was not interested in my offer to send her some money in advance of the trip for trip-related expenses she might incur. Advance financial arrangemnts were made with only one of the four women–even though I brought it up and asked in three of the four cases (in the fourth, the lady had made it clear she did not want any money at all so it didn’t need to be discussed).

    Even though they traveled and stayed with me at my house, I put no pressure on any of them to sleep with me, and in fact, in two out of the four cases, nothing sexual happened (in one of the four, I disliked the woman sufficiently that I myself was not interested in intimacy, even though the woman was gorgeous).

    What’s my point? Several, actually:

    1) There are some quality SD’s who simply cannot travel to see an SB. An SB who insists on the guy traveling will exclude some good pot SD’s (I never respond to an out-of-town SB who insists I travel to see her for the first meet.

    2) If an SB is a good judge of character, and if the SD is extremely transparent and verifiable, the risk of flying to see him is probably minimal, although a stay at a hotel might be wiser in general.

    3) If the SD is a quality SD, his contribution should be the out-of-pocket costs because the SB is contributing the prep and travel time. If he doesn’toffer to at least pay the expenses (ie, the flight/etc), I would really wonder about him if I were an SB.

    By the way, somebody referred to Ellen’s trip to Houston as a “blog meet” and perhaps that person thought that Ellen traveled to see me. Although I do live in Houston, and I do write on the blog, I wasn’t the person she came to see. Indeed, had she let me know in advance, I would have been happy to show her around Houston a bit if her SD meet went awry, as it apparently did.


  194. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    You are correct!
    I will fly to meet GURU on my own money :)) too.
    And may be even give him $$$$ allowances coz he gave us a lot of valuable advices and let us cry on his wide shoulders. 🙂

  195. Honey says:

    I work outside the sugar sphere, so besides website and marketing stuff, I am not on too often, don’t have the time. Have to get this permit, this certificate, licenses, taxes, receipts inventory… sleep about six hours a day 5 days or so a week..facebook, about two hours a day in ten to fifteen minute bits over the day..

  196. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    А когда вечеринка? Сегодня?
    Иди , красиво оденься и сделай там sexy and cute фото и поставьте в SA profile. Вот тебе мотивация !:)))

  197. Honey says:

    Hi, China! Welcome to the blog! Give me a few days to look at your ad and I can give you my opinion…. Read the older topics to get a fuller view of the free for all blog and every one here is more than willing to answer specific questions!

  198. RussianSB says:

    And if I offer to Russian to share the bill in restorant, in next second fork will fly to my eye direction. (motivating myself)
    What about you, Sugars, how often do you haunting the land off-web, or only when Wi-Fi
    connection broke ?? I ask both – SDs and SBs .

  199. Honey says:

    And funny the topic-polysugar,monogamy is not something I look for in relationships, most times. Just honesty, but people have to lie and yet they don’t want to handle the truth. That was the VERY first thing my current guy asked and i don’t think I could have explained to him that we might have been able to hang out longer if he didn’t insist on that….
    Yes RussianSB , the blog is a fun place to talk to others about the lifestyle and to get tips and hints to help a girl out or a guy! Thanks Guys!

  200. JustAThoughtSD says:

    Then dont. No one said you had to accept matrimony. you’re already in monogamy as evidenced by your prom number. Even in binary you can make a number 3 so you’re not limited to just the 2 choices. If he’s someone that you could never marry then it would be good to RUN. I would like to know the reasons if you are willing to share.

    you already have a snowball on your head, and a skin-tight little purple suit, and already on your knees and ready to party LOL (your little picture of course) so go to the party already.

  201. RussianSB says:

    Thank you Tina, I will go ! God bless you !
    Who can make it more harder than Tina ?? Here we need poisonous troll came back !

  202. RussianSB says:

    Oh… Russian SDs with big fish pictures and Maldives travel.
    And Russian man rather die, than offer to travel on your own expenses.

  203. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: bye go git! Go to your party! It will be fun! At the least you’ll have a cuddle bunny for a bit to help warm up 😉

    @JaTSD: WHAAAT? No mushies for 48 whole hours? Say it ain’t so! I don’t think you can do it! 😛

  204. Honey says:

    And JustatequilaSd, sappy happy endings all around, I’ll take it as mentoring! I know I need to readjust my goals, they are different than when I started. Now the things I take for granted….a gilded cage is hard to prep to leave…

  205. RussianSB says:

    Guys, please, kick my lazy ass to go out, I live in the center of Sugartown and lazy to go to Sugar party, becose cold and frost just killing me (you can see a snowball on my head ), and I am addicted to SA now, sure internet is more convinient than traditional ways nowadays. Bad that Moscow SDs don’t use a computer much and don’t speak ANY English.
    Dear Brandon, add please in language function Russian , and advertise in Moscow,
    Sugar relationship is traditional for Russia, but we still don’t have good web resourse.
    I garantee it will bring another 100 diamond SDs .
    Best regards,
    Russian SB

  206. Honey says:

    This year, a “slut” would be two…lol! other years six or eight… and yourself?

  207. JustAThoughtSD says:

    Not ok, still sober. 🙁 And I still have 42 more hours before I will give and type of romantic sentiments or advice. So, this blog will not have any of my warm fuzzies. 😛 I’m taking my balls and going home.

  208. Tina says:

    @Guru: I’ll pay my own way just to meet you! GrrrRRRrrrRRRrrrr! 😉

    @Phone Guy: SO glad your naughtiness has returned to the blog! MMMWWWAAAAAAAAA!

    @JaTSD: you’ve been awfully mushy lately…..you ok? 😉

  209. RussianSB says:

    @Twiceshy if ”nothing wrong with travelling to meet” why you don’t want to travel to your pot SBs ?? I don’t think it will be nice paid vacation for both if chemistry doesn’t work.
    I am bad example, I just have killing intuition. It is game of numbers. To be rejected by SD and specially travel for that half day ?? I also cannot ask for $compensation of my time or presents in advance, becose Russia very famouse for it’s scammers, so I even not think about it. But real gentelman always meet SB with hands full of exclusive perfumes/iPads/shopping. But in big bussiness people well travelled and if I knew that pot SD going to visit Moscow in half year – I better wait six month 🙂

  210. Phoneguy says:

    @Honey. Oh really?! So what’s your number? 😛

  211. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    I wanted to close my profile today and the site does not let me! It says if you were here less than 10 days you can not close it!
    But I found a way 🙂 I deleted all my pictures, so it can not be active.

  212. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    Recently a pot ( who I met in my city for a quick coffee meeting only) ask me a week later to fly to his city for weekend (and he would reimburse my ticks and would get a hotel for me, + sugar money we agreed ). The ticks would be $200 for me…BUT I would NOT even think to invest my $200 !
    He knew he liked me, we communicated a lot before the first coffee meeting – he knew he would want me to fly to see him; why would not he have invested his $200 – just in case he would ask me to get a tick?

    I am NOT investing any money to see any POT! (well it is enough I invest in my hair, nails, waxing, facial, botox, latisse, lingerie, stockings, sexy shoes and clothes :))) gas and parking.
    yes, I am that terrible person , MidwestSB. 🙂

    Since Ellen is silent now, GURU,
    I say , I felt that Ellen said “I am not concern if the pot going to reimburse the tick price COZ she was SURE he will! Coz he gave his real identity and she screened him.
    not because she would not care to loose $700.

  213. RussianSB says:

    About conventional wisdom, if you anyway decide to travel, be ready for :
    – 2 hours plane delay, 7 hours plane delay, 10hours plane delay and so on…
    delay can also be while you are on the plane. Take with you some amount of chocolate and nuts on board. Just in case.
    – make copy of your ID/passport. Just in case.
    – have enough money with you for hotel and return ticket. Sometimes , if planes seats are overbooked, to change tickets, dates can cost additional 500 – 1000$ extra. Even if you have return tickets it can be pricy to come back home if you change your mind.
    Just in case.
    – flights can be cancelled becose of weather, don’t travel close to your Big dates at work/home/college. You cannot blame American Airways that they care about your safety.
    – you can travel for few days, fall in love and stay a little more, let’s say two month or one year, think about that BEFORE travel 🙂

    PS. We all know, that fluids not allowed for hand carry lugagge. But last time I foun out that spray/aerosol even with dry stuff olso prohibited.
    If some idiot (sorry I cannot put soft word here) deside to smoke in lavatory, plane will make off-shedule stop in closest airport for technical check, coz they not sure about sourse of smoke. Even if they knew itis sigarrete smoke, they must check for sure that it is not plane smoking.

  214. China Rose says:

    Good evening all!

    This is my first time posting (after lurking for many a day), but I’ve finally gotten frustrated to the point that I needed to ask for help (this being the only place I could think to do it).

    I made my profile a while ago. I’ve revamped it about 3 times. First, I had a lengthy novel about myself, then I tried to shorten it…now I just have a short rundown of who I am and what I can offer and what I’m looking for. At first nobody really even looked at my profile. Then, after I registered with my .edu and it popped up that I was a “coed” (hate that word) I suddenly got lots of profile vies, but almost no messages/winks/favorites. Can anyone give me any pointers for what I can do?
    None of my pics are professional. And I’m definitely not the tall white/sexy latina/asian/exotic looking type. I’m black, really tiny (think 5″4 100lbs when wet), and have more of a cute baby-face look to me.

    Here is my number thing, if anyone feels gracious enough to give me feedback. I’d be super grateful! ^_^ #991292

  215. Janine says:

    I traveled for SF to meet my pot SD. I was nervous and I knew it wasn’t a good idea to go to him for a few days, but it has been great. He is very nice and I”m very comfortable with him. I wished I had more time to spend with him in this great city. I go home tomorrow and I’m sad. I don’t want to go home!
    Moral of the story: Make sure the pot SD comes to your town for the first meet, but if you do decide to visit him, there is a chance it could be a lot of fun!

    I’ve been on this site for 8 months with no luck until I met this guy, and I think it could work out really well.

  216. Honey says:

    Hello….my two cents,,, to me a promiscuous woman is the one that sleeps with TWICE the number of men that I do!

  217. twiceshy says:

    @Madridista see, that’s what I’ve been saying. Nothing wrong with travelling to meet. Airfare covered, hotel covered. Most common negative experience likely to be a free vacation somewhere you know?




    Ok seriously, for a woman…there is probably a fair amount of risk involved in travelling to a foreign country or location alone. Then adding to meet a stranger. But I know women who do this for business purposes, sales and marketing etc. so I don't think it is *that* unheard of. However I suppose we are dealing with a very specific type of scenario because the meet is through this site, and that needs to be taken into account as well.

    Still believe it can be done safely and does not necessarily mean that one will have a bad experience, or increase the chance of a bad experience.

  218. Madridista says:

    Traveling for a first time meet:

    It doesn’t mean SB is not experienced. And while I like my travel arrangements taken care of in advance, just because Ellen paid her own way, doesn’t mean anything. Some SBs can do that and not care about reimbursement, like she stated. I’ve had to travel for first meet even when I was a newbie. My first SD I met in irl and for all of our subsequent meetings, I had to travel to him. Couple of my other former SDs were managers of sport teams, so I always had to come to them during the football season. There is no way either one of them could come to me no matter how sincere or enamored they were because they had to coach their teams and be there for all their games. However, like RussianSB said if you’re going to a foreign place, have maps and phrasebooks (don’t only rely on technology) and know where your embassy is, just in case. I’m multilingual so it was never a problem, but know how to say few basic phrases should you have to explain an emergency situation to someone. If someone takes proper precautions, I don’t see a problem with traveling for first meet for any SBs, experienced or otherwise.

    • SD Guru says:

      Interesting comments on the blog regarding SB’s traveling for the first meet and paying their own way. A few years ago the conventional wisdom was completely different. I guess the SB’s have evolved, and actually it’s great for SD’s because that lowers the risk for them. I suppose we won’t see any more horror stories from SB’s about traveling first meets gone bad. And maybe I should start asking pot SB’s to come meet me on their own dime. Yeah, that’s the ticket! :mrgreen:

  219. RussianSB says:

    While talk about oily monk without his presense I concider honest behaivoir 🙂

  220. RussianSB says:

    And we shouln’t talk about Ellen without her presense . It is not nice.
    @Fun Dom, tell us please , what topics you want talk about ?
    It is triffle for me, I can talk about everything, but will be pleasant for you, while you are out of your office. Be my guest !

  221. Madridista says:

    @JustATequilaSD — very funny! This oil monk character sounds hilarious. I wonder if he’s reading the blog.

    @RussianSB @Treasured, don’t listen to Fun Dom, keep us updated on this experiment.

  222. Phoneguy says:

    @Treasured, your devotion to the advance of our scientific knowledge is admirable.

  223. RussianSB says:

    I am experienced traveller, and just very smart lady to act stupid, but still, ladies, I am not encourage you jump in the plane. I can explain myselfs in any languages (I always have local maps and frasebook, iPhone also has but battery can die), I already have my second travel passport, cozin first no free space anymore (no,not becose pot SD).
    You cannot imagine how many triky situation you can find yourself in while travel, even if SD is magic one. That is stress, and Sugar must be stress-free !

  224. RussianSB says:

    @Fun Dom… why ? We just make fun of oily monk, as he is also make fun of us, stupid ladies, creating such a profile. Sure, we can read behind the lines, and understand that he has nothing to do with oil, nor with monastery discipline, nor with hot nymfos.

    • SD Guru says:

      “This was NOT the first time Ellen mentioned traveling for a first meet…”

      You’re right! Apparently her “I am going to take it slow and feel this one out” lasted only a day. Silly of me for thinking those two instances weren’t related. 😮

      I’d still like to hear from her regarding why she changed her mind.

  225. Treasured says:

    @Phoneguy – I am willing to participate in the experiment and even write a thesis “Sand versus diamonds while having a sexual intercourse”.

    All purely in the name of the science 😀

  226. JustATequilaSD says:

    Happy Birthday!

    “Silly SD, hot guys don’t have STDs.”
    Silly me, Trix are for kids, and kids are for tricks. I had forgotten that you can walk into an under 25 bar in one of two ways: either go in ripped to hell looking like a young Fabio (lol they won’t know who i’m referencing) or you can walk in and jingle your keys and shout the mating call of “Porsche. Porsche. I have a Porsche.” You may need to adjust your mating call based on the location, but if any of you guys want to honestly pad your “prom” numbers this is an easy fun experiment that you can do at home(town.) Everybody wins. YAY. 😛

    I suppose I did put a bit more weight on my statement as I factored in that 97.4 percentile rate of the subject in question. At which point, if it’s working stick with the formula.

    A confusing weekend, indeed. Forget them both and date the oil monk. If he’s real, he’ll obviously fill all the holes in your life. (Yes, pun intended.)

    “Power lets you be in control of your life.” Then what? I’m always looking at the end game. “Checkmate” in 7 moves. Next. “Checkmate” in 9 moves. Next. “Checkmate” in 3 moves. Power makes you crave more power. You sacrifice so much along the way. Sometimes you end up playing by yourself. Don’t forget to stop and plant the roses, so you can smell them along the way. Maybe you already have. I hope so. (Ok, no more sappy-love-novel-lifetime-movie posts from me for at least 2 days.)

  227. Jessie says:

    If you read Ellen’s post, she wrote that she already got her $700 one way ticket and it was only 7 hours before her flight. There wasn’t much time for us to give her advice, especially after the fact. My initial reaction was, why would an experienced SB choose to do such a thing, and I expressed that on the blog.

    @Guru – This was NOT the first time Ellen mentioned traveling for a first meet….and yes, she did get excellent advise BEFORE she booked her ticket.

    October 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Has anyone ever flown across country for a first meet? Thoughts?

    October 26th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    @Ellen Were I an SB, I’d ask him to come to me for the first meeting and have him book a nice hotel near you–and, as always, meet first in a neutral place. If you hit it off, then sure, fly to him the next time (fully paid up front, of course).
    This is what I expect to do as a respectful SD.

    October 26th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    THANK YOU ALL for your advice on traveling for a first meet! I am going to take it slow and feel this one out. I told him that we are going to have to get to know each other quite extensively over the phone before I feel comfortable.

    You have valid questions which, of course, an experienced SB wouldn’t/shouldn’t miss, but like you said I won’t speak for Ellen. She made the decision, and was apparently excited to do so. And for the record, just because you have already purchased a ticket, doesn’t mean your decision to travel CANNOT be changed. However, when one party has a “good feeling” about a meet, good luck in getting them to see your light.

  228. Phoneguy says:

    Bed of diamonds? And I thought sand annoyingly gets into uncomfortable places. Ugh.

  229. Treasured says:

    Another one tempting offer 😀

    “Is xxx too far from zzz to tie you up on a bed of money and diamonds at the savoy hotel? I’m six foot four, 30 years old, more successful and dominant than you could ever handle. Oh and I’m quite picky too.”

    If you only were real…. 😀 hehehehe

    Any blog SD want to recreate the idea? 😀

  230. Treasured says:

    @Fun Dom – We pretty much figured out that he is a fake and just decided to entertain ourself 😉 So, do not be concerned about our safety/wellbeing/ entertainment ideas. No one was ever planning meeting him.
    As to “I have absolutely no interest in meeting or, for that matter, even hearing anymore about him”. I respect your opinion, but I am pretty sure some other Sugars might be entertained. So feel free just to skip the “monk” posts 😛

    Pufff… Moi does not appreciate patronising tone when it was not asked for 😀

    @Guru – I can’t see why travelling to see your potential SD is a bad thing? Of course ONLY if he provides the flights, the hotel and pampering 😀 Why not? 😀

  231. Phoneguy says:

    Beautiful SBs will always get offers and they will get it for the money… Rich and generous SDs will always want to explore more beauties as he can afford to.
    Bite me, I assume all sugars in the sugar bowl are not monogamous

    Yes, pretty girls get hit on all the time, inside and outside the sugar bowl. Do they lose their ability to decide for themselves because money is involved?
    I did not realize you were elected representative for all the rich and generous SDs, who do different things for different reasons.

  232. Madridista says:

    I agree, Jessie, no harm in experienced SB taking a chance with a first meet trip. I’ve done that and always had a good time. My arrangements were taken care of ahead of time, but if a SB is not concerned about it, like Ellen, then it’s a not a big deal. It would be different if she was traveling to a different country that she’s never been in, but within a country you can be more spontaneous like that.

    Also, a warning ladies: there is a fake SD from Portugal on here. A friend in Russia warned me that he is on this site and on a lot of other international dating sites. Apparently, he’s lying about his age, situation, profession, and why he’s here. She traveled to Portugal to meet him and he left her alone to eat by herself and only came back to pay for her meal and then disappeared somewhere again and she basically had to spend the whole trip by herself and he didn’t give her anything, other than making arrangements for her flight & hotel. I mean Lisbon is beautiful, so at least if a first meet is a disaster, she got to spend time in a great city, but how rude of him. He is also changing his story about his last SB/girlfriend: she either died in a car crash or helicopter crash. Don’t get his angle on lying about that. Just beware ladies if you receive any communication from him.

  233. Jessie says:

    If a SD asked a pot SB to visit him because he’s too busy and can’t get away from his man cave, the least he could do is to take care of her travel arrangement in advance which didn’t happen in Ellen’s case. As I’ve mentioned before, I would not recommend a SB to travel to a first meet (especially for a newbie). And she certainly shouldn’t have to pay her own way to travel.

    @Guru – Ellen said she wasn’t “concerned” about being reimbursed…which could also be translated into, “I/We didn’t discuss who would/should pay for tickets/hotel reservations. Ellen isn’t a newbie, (has been in more than one arrangement) plus, got tons of advise BEFORE she decided to buy her own “one-way ticket,” to visit someone whom she obviously hadn’t been corresponding with for a long time, because she insisted that if things didn’t go well, she’d just sight-see/visit Houston.

    I think your advise for newbies is spot on, but when/if an experienced SB decides to just “jump into an arrangement because they “have a good feeling” about it, there’s nothing anyone’s gonna be able to say to sway their instinct.

    • SD Guru says:

      “Does it make a sugar monogamy If he/she is sleeping with one sugar at a time and move on to the next shortly after?”

      I think that’s called a “serial monogamist”. It’s like saying guys are monogamous because they can only put their c*ck in one p*ssy at a time! :mrgreen:

      “Ellen isn’t a newbie… got tons of advise BEFORE she decided to buy her own “one-way ticket,”

      In Ellen’s post, she wrote that she already got her $700 one way ticket and it was only 7 hours before her flight. There wasn’t much time for us to give her advice, especially after the fact. My initial reaction was, why would an experienced SB choose to do such a thing, and I expressed that on the blog.

      “Ellen said she wasn’t “concerned” about being reimbursed…which could also be translated into, “I/We didn’t discuss who would/should pay for tickets/hotel reservations.”

      Again, why would an experienced SB choose not to discuss such an important detail?

      “she insisted that if things didn’t go well, she’d just sight-see/visit Houston.”

      Well, as it turned out, she said she came back the same day.

      “when/if an experienced SB decides to just “jump into an arrangement because they “have a good feeling” about it, there’s nothing anyone’s gonna be able to say to sway their instinct.”

      I agree, we’re all mature adults here and we can all make our own decisions and be responsible for our own actions. I’m sure in hindsight she probably could have done things differently. But all this is just conjecture, we should let her speak for herself.

      “I can’t see why travelling to see your potential SD is a bad thing?”

      The blogsphere is full of SB’s stories about first meet gone bad when they travel to meet a pot SD. Why? Because things don’t always turn out as expected and somtimes people misrepresent themselves. Having said that, I’m aware there are good experiences as well. It just comes down to a SB’s risk tolerance and maturity level and they’re certainly free to make their own choices.

  234. Madridista says:

    @JuicyFruit — Bravo! I thought I was the only one who thought so.

  235. JuicyFruit says:

    Hello Sugars!!!
    Very interesting subjects!
    Logically, is there a monogamous sugar SB or SD really existing in the sugar bowl? Isn’t it true in sugar relationships, most sugars are looking for some connections which involve with sex and money and fun things without the responsibilities and commitments in which a traditional relationships require? Without commitments and responsibilities… Who would be faithful with one partner? For how long? Does it make a sugar monogamy If he/she is sleeping with one sugar at a time and move on to the next shortly after? Beautiful SBs will always get offers and they will get it for the money… Rich and generous SDs will always want to explore more beauties as he can afford to.
    Bite me, I assume all sugars in the sugar bolw are not monogamous :P.

  236. Jessie says:

    Good Morning everyone.

    @Grasshopper – Happy Birthday girl!! Hope you’re having a fantastic day so far, and that it will only get better as the day gets longer. Have an Ahhmazing Day! Remember to leave the halo at home tonight ;).

  237. Fun Dom says:

    Hi Treasured and others who experienced the juvenile writings of the Indian Oil Monk. I have absolutely no interest in meeting or, for that matter, even hearing anymore about him but will offer this humble comment:
    I have worked in the international oil & gas business for nearly my entire great career. It has been, for the most part, tremendous fun which has taken me to five continents. I am dedicated to my work because my vocation is my vacation. The majority of my colleagues are also very well educated and polished ladies and gentlemen who are well versed in many subjects.
    Encountering one of them who can only express themselves in a very rudimentary way in writing or conversing is extremely rare in our upper levels. Certainly there are those who work in jobs in technical or general labor scopes who may not make use of good grammar or spelling or cannot proficiently express themselves but my opinion is that you would rarely see any of them on SA.
    Regarding the subject of the blog: I pursue only one SB relationship at a time, my previous one for three years. When getting to know a new SB doesn’t work out for one reason or another then I will seek another. With the many other commitments in my life having more than one SB at a time is just not feasible or interesting for me, Neither would get the attention that I can provide to just one great lady when she is my only SB. I sincerely believe that one sustained arrangement at a time is far more beneficial for me and my SB.

  238. Madridista says:

    Monogamy or polysugar, like everything else, depends on everyone’s comfort levels. Some people prefer monogamy, others don’t. It’s not practical or realistic in my situation. If I had to depend on my SDs for sex, then I’d only have it twice a month with two partners and I can concentrate on work and school better if I have it much more often, so there you go. In my situation, traveling, pro athletes, and non-sugar relations are a bad recipe for sugar monogamy, but that’s just me. Now the topic of statistics, I think some women under report. Personally, I do that a lot, because I just round since I don’t write down every man’s name with whom I get intimate and bad sex or anything I can’t vividly remember only counts as half for me.

    I am seriously considering leaving sugar lifestyle since two very important men suddenly appeared in my life: the ex and the favorite footballer. The ex is starting to teach at my uni (he was getting his PhD in Sweden & only stayed at my uni for one semester — that’s how my last exclusive relationship ended). I’m not sure who to pick: the ex or the footballer. Too much drama with both. I told myself I’ll only sugar date until I finish my last degree and finish my first novel and I’m pretty close to finishing my degree (next semester), but am struggling through a writer’s block, so novel is at a standstill. With the exception of my first SD, everyone keeps pushing for more, especially marriage and that’s not what I’m looking for at all right now. They all say they want fun and no exclusivity, but then few months later the ring is staring at me and I’m forced to explain why that’s not an option for me, right now. If I wanted marriage, I would have said yes when The Ex asked two years ago. This has been a very confusing weekend.

    Hope everyone is doing well 🙂

  239. Treasured says:

    @ Honey “Beauty can get you Money,education. Education and Money can get you Power, Power lets you be in control of your life.”

    PERFECT! Cheers for beautiful, SMART girls 😉

    Have fun in Costa Rica.

    • SD Guru says:

      “Translated – don’t get stuck on stupid, think what’s good for him and great for you…”

      If a SD asked a pot SB to visit him because he’s too busy and can’t get away from his man cave, the least he could do is to take care of her travel arrangement in advance which didn’t happen in Ellen’s case. As I’ve mentioned before, I would not recommend a SB to travel to a first meet (especially for a newbie). And she certainly shouldn’t have to pay her own way to travel.

      “Jumping on a plane for arrangement has higher chance of a successful meet and greet than a block party down the street.”

      I’d argue that neither case has that good of a chance, while a block party takes less time, effort, and money. Despite all the screening and communication that should take place before jumping on a plane, we’ve seen too many cases where things just don’t turn out as expected when you meet in person (except in Russian SB ‘s case where she always has great success! :P).

      “Has anyone ever drawn up a contract with their SD?”

      Keep in mind a sugar arrangement should be simple and fun, and having to draw up a contract would seem counter to that. Ask yourself what purpose would a contract serve, and will it really guarantee or protect you from anything?

      “I don’t write down every man’s name with whom I get intimate and bad sex or anything I can’t vividly remember only counts as half for me.”

      I see, nameless partners and bad sex don’t count. I better go do a re-count so I can be less promiscuous… :mrgreen:

  240. Honey says:

    Hello blog! Russsia,Ellen, Anna,tequila.and any and all that I may have missed!!
    beautiful day in Houston,going to Costa rica in 3 weeks,supposed to be 2 weeks but there is an class pertaining to my biz and this may be the last time this year to get it.I haven’t told the daddy, he wanted to secret me off away from chicken business, sooner rather than later. He is not too happy with my new found independence lately….and is starting to try to up the ante.bu it’s not going to work, so I’m going to enjoy these last few months we have and this VERY nice line of credit,allowance and the like. Been trying to remind myself to take note of Gas prices…..yikes!! But I’m kinda looking forward to it…I want to be admired for my brains….mostly. yeah the face and body admiration is great, but , Beauty can get you Money,education. Education and Money can get you Power, Power lets you be in control of your life. IM(Humble?)AO…. lol

  241. Phoneguy says:

    Silly SD, hot guys don’t have STDs. 😉

  242. GenuineSD says:

    @LookingGlassSB. Once, some years ago I negotiated a sugar contract through a series of emails and phone calls. Frequency was a part of it.., but wasn’t the main focus…
    We actually never entered into an arrangement for completely unrelated reasons, but the effort taught me a lot about what was important, and the importance of clearly communicating what is desired.

    On the blog topic: I prefer exclusivity, but it’s less about the “promiscuity” than the quality of the time together.
    As for naughty – vs- nice ? Naughty wins every time !

    Another thought: It would be interesting to see these stats broken out by some other demographic, too. E.g. Stated allowance preference, stated age, or college SB vs non…

  243. JustATequilaSD says:

    So you’d rather get an STD from the hot guy you just met and that may be sleeping with everyone and you may never see again, than the guy you screened to make sure he was successful and wanted to pamper you?

    See how easy I am to confuse? And I’m sober.

  244. flyr says:

    If you adjust for the appropriate factors the numbers come out about the same .

    A – lots of guys are married so P-1 is the wife

    B- Guys frequently overstate things relating to sex

    C- Women disclose the number of men they intended to sleep with , excluding accidental encounters or those occurring after 2 or more drinks or after 2AM

  245. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Phone guy .

    Only if you wish to be schooled. ?:)

  246. Ty says:

    Promiscuity, a questionable topic….I am one to be monogamous, but that’s just so things don’t get complicated with time :p….I’m very passionate/sexual but I find it to be more stimulating to connect with one rather than several…perhaps ive adopted some southern morals :)…I never judge that’s only a personal choice

  247. RussianSB says:

    Today I was asked in what blog I seat, I answer “New-Yorker” magazine, after I check their blog and realize that it is just impossible. I am not able to discuss Romney campaign.
    Taxes, guns, lube, oily monks and cake recepies much more interesting topics.

  248. RussianSB says:

    Sex statistics is very interesting thing, I remember episode ”Sex in the city”, where by statistics averege New York woman have sex 3 and a half (3,5) times per week.
    Then some woman claim : ”Show me that woman !” .
    How they make statistics in such delicate question ?

  249. RussianSB says:

    You are evil, evil girls, maybe I will write to him and ask how much oil he has ?

  250. RussianSB says:

    Tresured, CaliforniaSB, can you imagine, how popular oil monk feel today ?

  251. Phoneguy says:

    I think you also get a deeper, stronger relationship this way as both sides have less riding on the whole thing.
    That is an…interesting perspective. Single examples that don’t match the pattern don’t really prove anything. I’m still willing to bet # of hours spent in Japan and # of hours spent with an SB correlates with deeper understanding of each.

    I am a good Russian girl, i went to Russian music school, chess school for 8 years.
    Oh Lord, I’m going to get schooled. 😉

  252. California SB says:

    Hope all of you NYC and east coast peeps are OK during this nasty storm. xoxo

  253. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Phone guy.

    I am up for playing chess with you any day.
    (I am a good Russian girl, i went to Russian music school, chess school for 8 years).
    And I am happy you agreed/ support this academic sex statistics article.

    • SD Guru says:

      “I do not understand you (yiur green smile) and this statistics.”

      I was referring to surveys of this type in general. Of course the SD and SB’s of this site would always tell the truth in a survey! :mrgreen:

  254. California SB says:

    LookingGlassSB: I only practice safe sex with my sugar daddies. Unsafe sex only when I’m drunk, with extremely handsome guys with big c*cks I pick up at bars with no allowance involved. If I get something, at least will be from a handsome face with a nice package. LOL LOL (I know I’m bad).

    Treasured: I peeked at the oil man’s profile and he wrote me a VERY LAME LETTER, and gave me his phone number. I wrote back saying to get lost. What a stuck up loser.

  255. CaliforniaSB says:

    LookingGlassSB: I only practice safe sex with my sugar daddies. Unsafe sex only when I’m drunk, with extremely handsome guys with big c*cks I pick up at bars with no allowance involved. If I get something, at least will be from a handsome face with a nice package. LOL LOL (I know I’m bad).

    Treasured: I peeked at the oil man’s profile and he wrote me a VERY LAME LETTER, and gave me his phone number. I wrote back saying to get lost. What a stuck up loser.

  256. Nixen says:

    Hi All,

    I’m squarely in the poly-sugar camp. I really enjoy non-exclusive relationships. You get to meet more people, and have more fun…

    I think you also get a deeper, stronger relationship this way as both sides have less riding on the whole thing.. If you breakup with someone who has 3 other SDs, its no big deal. And, if you have 3 SBs, its no big deal if someone gets busy with their own life…

    I think the SBs in this camp are also more independent and more experienced. Someone that dates poly also has (at least) 3x the stories and history that someone who only does mono-sugar…

    As far as counting… Why are we counting again? People are much more complex than a few numbers, and rarely does the total number tell you anything. Yes, someone who has traveled to Japan 20 times is more likely to be different than someone who has never been. But, I’ve known people who have been to Japan 50 times and don’t get the language or the culture, and I’ve known people who have never been and know it all quite well.

    Just personally, I’ll take a SB that ‘gets it’ to any number on the whole range from 0-100,000 sexual partners..

    SF Bay, SD

  257. Phoneguy says:

    It’s funny how most surveys show that men are more promiscuous than women. But it takes two to tango, so either the men are exaggerating to make them look good or the women are under reporting to make them look good. Which way is it?
    @Guru, probably both! 😉

    I can’t imagine anyone having only 7 in a year.
    @EmilyS, we’ll put you in the promiscuous category then. 😉
    Not judging. 🙂

    20 SBs (younger sexy girls) for 1 SD. ! So a guy can have 20 new sexual partners and a girl just 1.
    Thanks for solving that. Maybe I can talk you into playing chess with me. 😉
    But the data doesn’t say there are 20 SBs per SD or the usually quoted 10 SBs per SD. It says there are 1.67 SBs per, each hooking up with 3 SDs. Of course this all falls apart if the numbers include non sugar participants.

    @Jennifer, you want to make the raw data available to us? 😀

  258. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Good Evening all from the UK

    How is everyone today? Now what have I been missing?

    (Cup of tea in hand and start to read blogs)


  259. RussianSB says:

    I don’t want play snowballs with him,even if he travel to my door,remember he has huge axe ar something else huge !

  260. RussianSB says:

    A-ha !!! Belorus and Bulgaria out of oil bussiness. Oil transportation tube not ready yet in Varna. But Bulgaria have beautyful monasteries. What ?? I watch Euronews.

  261. Treasured says:

    Oil monk apparently is going to be in “your territory, in Belorus and Bulgaria soon” (I live in neither of those).
    But am waiting with the anticipation his visit 😀

  262. RussianSB says:

    @Tresure,canadian adapt to sugar language now, two month ago he offer to throw diamonds to my feet and than poof, he is just spamming. But we all want know haw is oil monk ?

  263. Treasured says:

    @WCG – nope, UK. 😀

  264. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    “my My supreme Lady” is a doctor of tech science , do lectures /conference s all over the word, and in California often ? Dr. K …. ?

  265. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    In 1 first week I got 2 offers .
    Met 4 guys for drink/ lunch dates. (do not ask with how many slept – just trust the statistics 🙂 people do fancy researches , got budgets to do sex statistics – who am I (as Jack MD said here ) to tell you anything 🙂 🙂

    First offer 1 K a month (once a week) exclusive (read no condoms).

    Second 25 K a month (local guy) – no exclusivity (read sleep with him and occasionally with his friends , business partners ).
    Choices choices … 🙂

  266. Treasured says:

    And another one…. This one is just nuts.

    My Supreme Lady

    May I state that your profile is divine? Please do me the honor of looking at mine.

    Hoping fervently to be that ‘someone special’ who’ll take great care of a Supreme *** Princess…

    Tender regards

    Your new Admirer (and Aspiring Provider)

    Dr. Ihavelostascrew

  267. Treasured says:

    Another one to add to my collection of local clowns.

    “wowwwwww ur so beautifull, im ready to offer you 10 000$ and anything you ask just to be with you one or two time per month. ur really so beautufll wanna spoil you like a queen offer you all you ask with no limits my angel. hope i interest you, im waiting for a message from you sweety, take care of you and hope we talk soon

    im free this week i can travel and come to see you, im ready to offer you anything just to kiss ur feet sweety, here is my mail write me and send me some photos of you please, we can arrange this by mail my mail is :

    “I am a jerk” @hotmail.com

    im ready to put 10 000$ under ur feet bb it interest you?

    can i have acces to ur private photos please?”

    My reply was:

    “This member has granted you permission to view their private photos. Click here to view ExquisitePossession’s profile:www.seekingarrangement.com/member/detail.php?id=

    Thank you for your compliments…

    But, I am long past the age of fairy tales and being on this website has taught me a lesson or two…

    There are a lot of beautiful girls. And, even though I am aware of my looks, even I wouldn’t think it is worth to spend 10 000$ + expenses for a couple of nights… With anyone, really.

    But, I am granting you an access to my private pictures. Everybody should be given the benefit of doubt.

    Let’s see if you will be booking the tickets (I would prefer Paris or London) anytime soon ;)”

    Needless to say, he disappeared after that.

    Profile number: 1204059

  268. LookingGlassSB says:

    @California SB,

    wow, have you ever gotten HPV?

  269. LookingGlassSB says:

    Has anyone ever drawn up a contract with their SD?

    For instance, he gives you a certain amount for say 3 visits per month? And if either party breaches that contract then it’s off?

  270. RussianSB says:

    @I Love West Coast Girl, yeah, a lot goldfishes in that pool, I even lost hope to get laid.

    @Ellen SugarB, you sound little dissapoined. But Sugar fam happy that you home and safe. Just not nice to give you stupid advices when you said your flight will be in 6 hours.
    While you travelling we find an oil monk with huge*** , I think he lies about oil, or about being monk, or about huge. Actually we thinking that he has huge axe. Tresure mailing with that maniac , so we will find out.

  271. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    You know it is easy!

    20 SBs (younger sexy girls) for 1 SD. ! So a guy can have 20 new sexual partners and a girl just 1.

    I do not understand you (yiur green smile) and this statistics.

  272. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    Long ago I stopped caring in most cases, what people would say, and started caring what would make ME happy


    me, too, I want to get more positive energy, collect positive memories for myself, to feel happy and smile.

    I would not worry or think what others think.

    (exept for my relatives of course)

  273. RussianSB says:

    No, oil monk with huge*** from States. Do you know another oil monk from the site ???

  274. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Treasured .

    I think that oil guy is Indian .

    (that is why grammar and other mistakes 🙂

    Have you seen his pictures? he is in Ontario, Canada, right?

  275. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:


    I have a sticker on my car.
    “good girls go to heaven bad girls go everwhere”

    but I love your quote , may be I will change my sticker to yours 🙂

    Good girls do everything that bad girls do, but do it GOOD !


  276. RussianSB says:

    oh, my avatar now show up and make me guilty for all my posts. It willbe my own censor

    • SD Guru says:

      “Wow, what a long day! I flew in and out of Houston in a day.”

      Thanks for sharing your experience. So what have you learned about yourself? You probably know all of the “rules” that many of us would have told you, such as don’t travel to meet for the first time, don’t plan the first meet to last several days, and no matter how great you think a pot SD is, in person it may turn out differently. Most importantly, there is no need to pay your own way to meet a pot SD. If he’s as perfect as you think he is, he would have made the travel arrangements for you.

      Also, this is why there was an abundance of caution about blog hook ups previously.

      @Va Gent

      Welcome back! Your relationship was about to run its course and it’s just as well that it ended. Treasure the memories, learn from your experience, and keep chasing the holy grail!

      Re: The blog topic

      It’s funny how most surveys show that men are more promiscuous than women. But it takes two to tango, so either the men are exaggerating to make them look good or the women are under reporting to make them look good. Which way is it? :mrgreen:

  277. RussianSB says:

    That I don’t make boomboom 7 years don’t make me good girl,I have dirty thoughts all the time.

  278. RussianSB says:

    slut sleep with everybody, and biotch sleep with everybody but never with you.

  279. RussianSB says:

    @Treasured, he replied ! What a surptise ! Ask him to send p…s picture to proove what he say in profile, about huge***. To create relationship full of trust, you know.

  280. RussianSB says:

    >5 for woman and >7 for man… but man usually need a woman for that, so stat-s make women looks more slutty than men, doing the same ! Yeah, I am dumb blond, but I can count a little:) What about me – no sex in 7 years, why I join the site,and nobody even send me p…s picture. I complaining, complaining, complaining, and nobody do nothing about !

  281. RussianSB says:

    @ I Love West Coast Girl… adorable, how do they count, sending sex-offers in Facebook ??

    Good girl does everything that bad girl can, but does it GOOD !

  282. Treasured says:

    Ok, news on a the oil gentleman 😀
    He replied. Will keep you posted 😀

    But the dumbass has no idea about spelling/grammar or geography what so ever 😀

  283. California SB says:

    Good girls don’t live in Los Angeles… nope. 😛

  284. California SB says:

    According to this standard…. I’m way beyond promiscuous then. Three a year??? I’m in more like in the 3 a month range… LOL LOL

  285. Treasured says:

    And, answering to the question…

    I prefer HONEST relationship.

  286. Treasured says:

    I don’t know about you lot, but I am still a virgin 😀 hehehehe

    And, just a very interesting fact… Two days ago I had a very curious conversation with a dancer (striptease) about what is sex and what is not. And she, being absolutely serious, assured me that “the blow job actually is not a real sex, right?”

    But, to be serious…. I LOVE sex. I love good sex. I decided it is ok to be opened in my desires and my sexuality. Does it makes me promiscuous?

    pro·mis·cu·ous (pr-msky-s)
    1. Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners.
    2. Lacking standards of selection; indiscriminate.
    3. Casual; random.

    Due to the definition – no. Not at all. But I would say, the average woman, “I am waiting for my one and only love, except that one 6 years ago but that was a mistake” type would argue that I am a total slut.
    Actually, whore would be a more appropriate term, since I also get paid for my company (which, achtung!) involves sex too.

    But. I think the important thing to remember is, how do you feel? Long ago I stopped caring in most cases, what people would say, and started caring what would make ME happy. Nothing is as liberating as that! 😀

  287. Jennifer says:

    @Emily, this poll is based off annual sex partners.. which the average is 3 for women, and 5 for men. This doesn’t just include SDs or SBs but any sexual partners during the year. Based on these definitions promiscuous means >5 annual sexual partners for women (SB) and >7 annual sexual partners for men (SD).

  288. Emily S says:

    I’m 21, considered attractive with a good bod and am pretty smart but not for a second do I think that a daddy finds me to play chess on Monday afternoons. I’ve also had several daddys at the same time for a long time and they switch in and out, no harm, no foul.

    I’m not sure that the poll meant 7 SD partners in a year or just having 7 total sex partners. I can’t imagine anyone having only 7 in a year. Seems like if you are 15 y.o. then I guess but if you are in your early 20s, … I mean 1 new guy every 7 weeks??? r u kdg?

  289. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Высосанная из пальца статистика.

  290. Jennifer says:

    All personalities and perspectives are welcome in the blog, while personal attacks and name calling are not. It’s inevitable that there will be disagreements but let’s handle it as mature adults with class to keep the dialog constructive and respectful. Please refer to the “Blog Etiquette” for more details. For the newbies, please take a look at the “Sugar Daddy Dating Tips” section on the right for a list of commonly discussed topics and the “SD and SB Blog List” section to see the perspective of other sugars. Now comment away and let’s enjoy the blog!!