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Signs Its Time to End Your Sugar Relationship


Sugar is sweet, but sooner or later your favorite Sugar may lose its flavor. The problem is that many Sugar Babies and Sugar Daddies aren’t on the lookout for telltale signs that an Arrangement has run its course. That’s when, like an old piece of gum, it goes from sweet and juicy to bitter and stale.


1. One person wants more commitment i.e. marriage, but you can’t commit.

The best way out of this sticky situation is to talk it out. Let your Sugar know why you aren’t ready to settle down. Give them a clear idea, for example:

“I am not ready to commit until I am able to support myself on my own and finish my master’s degree.”

However, you should understand their needs:

“I would love to keep seeing you, but if you need something more serious I won’t have any hard feelings about ending this.”

That way no one is being led on and you maintain a good relationship … just in case he’s thinking marriage was a bad idea.

2. The other person threatens legal action if you don’t [insert demand here].

This is a big no-no. Try to appease the situation by talking it out and SUBTLY implying that you too have legal power if they choose to be unreasonable.

3. Sugar Daddy or Mommy wants to do something intimate you aren’t comfortable with or wants to become intimate and you don’t want to.

Remind your Sugar of your arrangement. Know your rights! No one is allowed to intimidate you into doing anything you don’t want to do. In our book, this is one-sided and goes against what a mutually beneficial relationship is all about.

4. Sugar Baby only wants to meet when he or she needs something.

If he or she only wants to see you when they need money or are in trouble, but not when you are in town or have time off from work—steer clear. A Sugar Baby should enjoy their Mommy or Daddy’s company. (Note to SB/ SMs: Be clear what as to what your expectations are. Choose an arrangement that works for both of your schedules.)

5. Sugar Daddy or Mommy sends less monthly allowance or no allowance at all.

Hey, things happen. It is possible that something has come up on their side of things. Have an open conversation about what their new budget is. If their new offer doesn’t work for you, then it is time to respectably part ways. (Note to SB/SMs: It is bad form to suddenly change your baby’s allowance without first talking to them. If No. 4 applies to you, then you have the right to stop allowance-giving altogether.)

What are other signs that it is time to end your Sugar Relationship?

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259 Responses to “Signs Its Time to End Your Sugar Relationship”

  1. gloria makamu says:

    my sugar want to date me but i don’t and he stopped his allowance!
    i’m very mad at him and i don’t know how to quiete ,whenever it time to give me allowince ,he act like it a bad thing.

  2. aquagirl2233 says:

    So, I just recently signed up on this site because of my credit card debt. I got some replies from potential daddies but only talked and met up with one guy. He is 37 years older than me. I don’t like the idea of getting paid tbh but I really need it and I didn’t bother looking for any SDs because it’s hard to juggle and I thought we had a “good connection.” First hang out was at his place and was like 2 hours and gave me $500. Later he wanted me to overnight or stay longer, fuck me raw and put me on birth control. I was like, this guy is getting more than I do. I was so dumb to just agree what he wanted. He didn’t support me for my maintenance like going to a dermatologist, facial clinics, personal trainer, right food, etc. He wants me to look great but HOW CAN I LOOK BEST IF HE WILL ONLY SUPPORT ME UPON MEETING??? Yeah and also it came to a point that I got an infection (nothing serious) but still. I am glad he stopped talking to me after I told him my wishlist! I’d rather be alone than being used. It was a good experience but he was just not being fair. xoxo

  3. sjbear says:

    So a SD seen 3x 4th time I planned on talking to him about allowance and things. We make a date that day I get a sitter. I tell him my ETA he says hes not left work (2 hours away). We message a few times but then i send a few more messages no reply? He has not stepped up to his side of the bargain and seems like he will only text for asking if the ‘bed’ is in the future. Give him a shot? I have already invested over 300 $ in gas, time, sitters etc to get an allowance from him but is it worth the hassel? how can I say my issues correctly? “I know we have busy lives just next time lets communicate better and if it does not work then its not meant to be, I can not keep investing my time and money when i dont think you are ready for an actual arrangement, call me if you want to chat and sort anything out”

  4. Tanya says:

    I want to leave mine, I DON’T KNOW HOW.
    HE thinks he is the BEES KNEES. But that is not the reason why I would like to leave him!! I want to leave him because I want affection and he cant give me all of that most of the time.
    We have a very deep relationship and he gets really upset when I want to leave him. He constantly plays victim on me and makes me feel guilty for leaving him. I told him that this is hurting my feelings to see that he is not giving me the attention I need, every time he wants attention he acts like a BRATT !!! I can’t deal with a 45 year old man who acts like a kid when he cant get his way.

    I have tried to leave him many times, we battle to leave each other and the fact that I work for him is SUPER DIFFICULT.

    I want to leave his company and he would get highly upset.


  5. Becky says:

    Sugar still gives me the allowance but doesnt want sex anymore…what do I do?

  6. Laura says:

    I have been in an arrangement for almost 3 years now and I am ready to stop. I have tried to say I’m moving or give hunts that im over it but it’s not working. The minute he feels like I’m wanting out he reminds me how lucky I am to know have someone like him in my corner. I recently said I was moving next month and he said I was ungrateful and cold for leaving and that I used him. I have put up with his habits just like he has done with me but how do I get out of this ? I can’t take the boobs out the he bought or give Back the money I have spent. What do I do ?

  7. DowntownLASD says:

    I had a 3-year relationship with my last SB. About halfway through it became clear that we loved each other. Not as in we wanted to be together forever. Both of us had significant others. But the love of really close friends, full of respect, wartmth, and support, plus awesome sex!. It was confusing to both of us, I think, but more to her, as she was in her first real long-term relationship at 24 years old, and she was in love with him. I just embraced the chaos, fully aware that I’d probably end up heartbroken, but what a ride! It started unraveling when she realized that she had a future with him and not with me. Another six months later and it was over. *sign*

  8. Little One says:

    When there is attachment, whether it’s financial or emotional, the relationship gets worse.
    Why people can’t live without being co-dependent? I honestly appreciate freedom and simplicity…Only positive!

  9. CT says:

    Hi everyone,

    This is sort of off topic from this post, but i don’t know where else to ask for advice. I’m a new SB to the whole SA thing, and have been talking to a Diamond Club SD for the past few days. My question is this: I’m in a foreign country (but am originally from the US), and have been talking to this SD who says that he is from a country that speaks English as their first language (I will not reveal details in order to be discreet) but is working in our current country. However, his grammar and sometimes spelling is horrible, to the point where sometimes I wonder if he’s actually from the country we’re both in. An example of how he might type is: “hey how are You? today was a nice day next week is Important will tell you about it later Tonight”

    What do you all think? I’m supposed to meet him for drinks and dinner later next week so I guess I can’t be too worried since it’s in a public place, but I’m just confused. I don’t know too much about SD profiles, but I guess I’ve just automatically assumed that most SDs who are wealthy must have some sort of writing etiquette? But because he’s a Diamond Club member (I know that that doesn’t necessarily prove anything), it makes me feel like he must be somewhat legitimate?

    • OzSD says:

      A former SB and good friend of mine used to tease me constantly about my grammar and spelling etc in emails. Ever since then I’ve been paranoid about correct expression especially in emails to her!!!

      But, my grasp of grammar remains fairly appalling!! I think you have to give this guy a break for the moment. He could be incredibly busy and I know that feeling!! Emails dashed off in a hurry shouldn’t be misinterpreted as not taking sufficient care in communicating with you – often I prioritize hurried messages to an SB when I’m under the pump with business and could easily not respond till later.

      Bottom line – you will find out when you meet him if his written expression is reflective of his character or whether he just needs an SB to be to a iron fist in a velvet glove when it comes to his written etiquette 🙂

  10. OzSD says:

    The ESSENTIAL thing is be clear in communicating what your expectations are. The trouble with though is that some people are on this site just ‘seeing what happens’. I’m not attacking them but surely there are some basic truths we can all acknowledge without having tawdry discussions about prostitution etc.

    An ancient SD can have VERY little in common with a 23 year old SB.
    Stunning 23 year old SBs – SD’s who are about your age are unlikely to have the finances to be an SD not to mention that men don’t grow up till we are 30 🙂 Likewise genuinely successful SDs are not going to have the bodies 23 year athletes.

    Sex is never going to be great between between someone who doesn’t anything about the other person except for their looks or money.

    SDs wanting to pay for sex straight up should just go to an escort whatever. On the other hand, expecting an SD/SB arrangement free of sexual intimacy is naive.

    For me this site offers a ‘middle way’. For me an arrangement can’t work unless there is liking, care etc within mutually agreed boundaries. I get tired of reading comments from SDs and SBs that either make money the only issue or pretend it’s no issue.

    I just think we all bring our emotions to the arrangement and that people who pretend that they don’t are being dishonest.

  11. California SB says:

    WestCoast: “deep wrinkles, 48″

    I met a guy once who had very deep wrinkles and he was only 36 (saw his DL). So it depends….

  12. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    The NYC guy 🙂 with musles and tatu.
    Have you met him ? 🙂
    he says he is 42-43 y old but at the “stars tatu” pics you can see such deep wrinkes at the forehead , 48 at least.
    the age does not matter anyway.

  13. California SB says:

    The studio 54 party was INSANE!!!!! And of course my little self ROCKED!!! 🙂

  14. California SB says:

    Phoneguy: @Cali, I think (most) girls on this site are whores who want to get paid for the sleeping around they are going to do anyway.

    Elementary my dear Watson… why do it for free when you can get paid?

    People… the escort/whore/prostitute conversation is meaningless.

  15. flyr says:


    It’s also something that I do not discuss with friends etc.

    This has been a good sounding board and I have learned a lot from listening

  16. Lexxy says:

    I figured if most of the people here join in we’d have a nice quaint community. I don’t know where else I’d be able to promote

  17. Jersey Darling says:

    @lexxy, before everyone jumps over to the new topic, I’d be interested in a forum. It’s going to take a lot of work to build up the community you’d need though.

  18. Lexxy says:

    @ stacy, thanks your right, I guess with all the escorts going to dubai I just got the wrong idea in my head.

    @flyr- thanks for the reply, yes the idea was to be threaded, so we could discuss certain topics in one thread. As well I dont know if my other sb ladies can tell their friends, but I thought about a thread where you could leave an email or phone number, or make a safe buddy to keep in contact with, that way the sugar community can look out for each other. since I live in a small city, I am unable to tell many people, and my one friend is so busy she doesnt always have time to check in on me.

    @treasured, I noticed you on the thread alot for a long time, care to weigh in?
    Same with russiansb and tequila.

    Any SD wanna weigh in?

  19. Stacy says:

    @Lexy, no ethnicity treats all women the same. If you want to know if he’ll treat you like a sexdoll, ask.

  20. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Glad to hear you are good RussianSB. The world will be a better place when you come out of hibernation.

    We are getting snow here today. Can you believe it?

    Need someone to snuggle with and keep warm 🙂

    I have a day off next week and thinking of going to London for the day.
    Anyone around London on the 25th?

  21. flyr says:

    @lexxy sounds like a pretty good idea . Would recommend some form of threaded discussion rather than this format which resembles herding cats on speed.

  22. Treasured says:

    Despite of all I say – I still always believe in best 😀

    Talking about believing in best… Ladies… I am in laff 437390


  23. RussianSB says:

    @Tresured – don’t meet your heroes, every girl know it !

  24. Treasured says:

    @Russian – mostly because most viewers do not suffer from high intellect 😀

    But… I DID enjoy watching The Tudors 😀 Best part being Jonathan Rhys Meyers’s pert butt:D Which you could see again and again and again 😀 He was a HUGE part of my sexual fantasies for the first 2 seasons. Lol!

    Until I saw him in London in real life, and he was much shorter than expected, with a really bad skin and looking as if he was drinking for the last 2 years non stop. All my fantasies got crushed in 5 minutes.

  25. RussianSB says:

    @Lady V – my time zone neighbour, life is good to me last time… and half of winter gone !
    In spring my hybernation will end.

  26. RussianSB says:

    I imagine Keira threaten producer with suicide for Karenina part 🙂

  27. RussianSB says:

    @Treasured – why they think that classic must be adopted to imbicile level to be interesting ?
    By the way , I think that Keira actually look like Russian in that moovie.
    ”Tudors” with modern language and haircuts …
    ”Bordgia” – no comments at all … in history he sleeping with his dother… it is why they choose that story to make a TV show ?

    People, if you interested in Russian classics – we have all that moovies already shoot with grate ”old scool” actors , and not commercial basis (!!!). Maybe filmis a little darker, and no special effects, but you will enjoy. In Russian version of ”Anna Karenina”, actress was histerical, and threaten moovie director that she will do suicide if she don’t get the part of Karenina. And actually she was grate as Karenina…
    It is not the stories for half year moovie production instant plots.

  28. subdaddave says:

    Number 3 works both ways. I once had a SB who kept demanding sex in a way with which I wasn’t comfortable (to put it mildly). That one was soon history.

  29. lexxy says:

    Hey everyone, promise last off-topic post lol!
    Id like to start a forum that sugar babes and daddy’s can use. It would provide info on profiles to stay away from, general chat, sugar babe concerns , and a place where we can all be safe and leave any contact info if we travel or go on a date (since if anyone is like me and doesn’t have friends to tell). I’m willing to expand but wanna know if any of you’d be interested before I put Time in it . I would like to make one of the longer SB a mod/admin. It’s not to compete but a place where we can be a little more open on info if one chooses….just feeling the waters…

    • im_only_me says:

      YES! I am new to the SB thing.. and I would love to have a place to ask my questions and read advice. I find it hard to keep track on here..

  30. flyr says:

    @treasured “Why, oh why you have to take something magnificent and completely loose the plot?”

    Because they don’t know any better or They bought that title and told the story they wanted to tell.

  31. lexxy says:

    I have a question about ethnic SD. I have had a few contact me about possible arrangements , they seem to be middle eastern of some sort. Although not entirely attracted, I have one POT who might be handsome. Problem is, the ones I’ve spoken to before seem to treat woman like sexdolls . He lives in the USA (I’m Canadian). Any one have experiences with ethnic sugar daddies.?

  32. Treasured says:

    Just started watching “Anna Karenina” with Keira Knightley…

    Well, I lasted 20 minutes. As I life long fan and admirer of Russian classics, and being able to read them in the original language, I am highly disappointed by this adaptation.

    Why, oh why you have to take something magnificent and completely loose the plot?

    I think with the classics, either you do it terrific, or you don’t do it at all.

    Quite upset, on the whole. Was looking forward this adaptation (as I do happen to think that Keira is great for the role)…

    • The Silly Hippie says:

      I agree with you!
      Keira is also amazing. I heard rumors the original script was well written but after budget cuts and editing the movie was ruined! Shame, it looked so promising!

  33. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Good Afternoon from the UK !

    Looks like we have covered all time zones Russian SB.

    How is life treating you this weekend?


  34. RussianSB says:

    Good night, good night !
    Good morning, Sugars (2 pm at Moscow) !!!
    Send all of you kisses from the future 🙂
    I live in future, I live in future ! And we have snow ! Envy me now !

  35. Treasured says:

    It is “tomorrow” here already. How wonderful it is 😛

    Good night, and have a very very very sweet dreams.

  36. JustATequilaSD says:

    Another time and place. For now, just keep me posted on these 2 gentleman callers. My favorite reality soap — “The Real SB’s of SA” 😀

    My favorite quote from 2012:
    The tequila wasn’t helping to numb my pain, it was helping me to feel again.

    G’nite and have a pleasant tomorrow.

  37. Treasured says:

    @Tequila – There is only one way to find out 🙂 And it is definitely not on here.

  38. JustATequilaSD says:

    “You don’t know me at all? Don’t you? Absolutely no blimming clue. And I love it. Should stay this way”

    Why should it stay that way? Is the real you that scary? Are you protecting me or you?

  39. Treasured says:

    Awww, Tequila… How very thoughtful 😛

    Except, that after reading this… You don’t know me at all? Don’t you? Absolutely no blimming clue 😀

    And I love it. Should stay this way

  40. JustATequilaSD says:

    Confucious-Tequila say: Beautiful woman that runs from what she truly wants, needs a different type of hole filled by man.

    You don’t ever have to say you’re in love. Just be honest with yourself and all you do. You have come to a crossroads, young manhopper. When the money/sex/drugs/rocknroll becomes an afterthought it is time to let go of the past, and cautiously step into the future with your eyes and mind open.

    ” I’m ‘fraid you have to charm me first now” — My charm only goes so far. When you find out my penis isn’t a foot; when you realize that I’m not going to buy you a pony; when I have to take a break after two full days of lovemaking; what would I do then to keep you? I can’t do cool mime stuff like Mummenschanz, or even ride the unicycle while juggling. I hope one of those guys can give you what you want. I will secretly cry and cheer for you at the same time.

  41. Treasured says:

    PS: Cursing me won’t work 😀
    My great grandmother apparently was a witch. And the thing goes through generations 😛

    Perhaps now I know why I am so irresistible to men I meet with – I enchant them with my magic powers 😀

  42. JustATequilaSD says:

    You’ve seen Easy A, maybe you’ve seen 40-year-old Virgin, as well. I really enjoyed it, but that’s not an accurate description of me. I used to be a virgin. I was a Grandmaster Pimp-Monk skilled in bedroom kung fu. In Tibet, I’m known as Di Wan Hung Lo. A girl can’t force me into banging her brains out just because she’s hot. Tequila is my favorite alcohol, and it made my clothes fall off. So I became a male stripper that moved on to 90’s hetero porn. I’m also the All-time Champion in a unique Rodeo circuit where I’m the only male. My member has been in at least 4 movies, and he can understand his mating call in at least 5 languages. Yes, I talk a good talk, and you never know if it’s the alcohol, my Ego, or my penis typing these sagacious, salacious soliloquies. You’ll know what’s real when you’re close enough to look me in the eye, and hear the heavy drums start as you say “RELEASE THE KRAKEN !!”

    Just the tip of my iceberg. Heard enough yet? I can talk about me all day. 😀

  43. Treasured says:

    @ Tequila – Ahhh…. Moi and my new two admirers…. With those it definitely doesn’t feel like escorting. Doesn’t mean I am in love though.

    But, then again, I have stopped with the whole SB/SD thing. I have decided for myself, that enough is enough. WELL, to be completely clear, premeditated SB/SD thing. If a person I am with wants to help me financially – it is up to him. Same is, if I want to have sex – it is up to me 😀 But, then it is, to quote Russian “a relationship with a financial support” 😀

    So, Tequila, I’m ‘fraid you have to charm me first now 😛

    And, what is with being “jaded”. Moi is realistic. What is wrong with it?

  44. Taylor Made SB says:

    Lol thanks Tequila that all sounds too familiar…Easy A 🙂

    Im new to this class of bloggers, but I am sure I’ll come across some exciting information involving theeee Tequila
    A nerdy virgin who has some odd correlation with Tequila.
    When the “Tequila makes her clothes fall off” do you insist she put them back on ? 🙂

    Am I gullable if I ask if you are being truthful? lol are you really a virgin…lol or are you “pulling my leg” although I’d rather it be my hair 😉

  45. JustATequilaSD says:

    Did anyone tell you that I’m a nerdy virgin?

  46. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina and @RussianSB
    I’ll come if each of you come. The food is just bonus.

    Congrats on your date. And I do talk a good game, all my blogmates will tell you that. Perhaps one day we could just sit on the bed next to each other and talk about sex for a little while. Then I could tell all my classmates that we “did it.” I’ve heard that girls smell like fresh strawberries. Maybe I could even braid your hair as we talk, and write about it in my “journal” that looks like a diary. Maybe someday. 🙂 I’m not in a hurry for us to come together, I’ve waited this long.

  47. Taylor Made SB says:

    Thanks babes :)…I’ll be sure! fingers crossed that it’ll all be brilliant!

  48. Jersey Darling says:

    Taylor that’s great to hear! You’ll have to let me/us know how it turns out.

  49. Taylor Made SB says:

    @ Jersey

    Thanks for asking 🙂

    The date went well, although he was late (Typical)…Everything seems to be out and “on the table”. He was highly infatuated by me, I could see it in his eyes :)…Soooo cute, couldn’t take his eyes away, I was quite flattered. He was a real gentleman, a first time SD…I think I like it better that way, I felt less pressured than with an experienced Daddy….Only concern was from what he was seeking, I got the impression that he was in search of a full time “girlfriend” or “Mistress” (He’s married), I asked and he assured that he wasn’t …but in nutshell, I had a lovely evening 🙂

  50. Jersey Darling says:

    @Phoneguy & Tequila – Thank you 🙂

    Taylor how did your date go? I’ve been curious!

  51. FRANK says:

    Russia-Who win from out fight ? Only worldwide Capitalists !

    The industrialists and the generals win every time!

  52. Taylor Made SB says:

    Back from my date!!!

    Seems like you all have had quite the afternoon. What a fire pit, I have my own views with the SB in relation escort topic, but that fire has seemed to be tamed atm, therefore I’ll leave it at bay.


    “I DO make your clothes fall off. Did someone say BOOBIES??? And here I am in a puff of red smoke, with that naughty grin that too few of you have seen. And now after a long nearly sleepless 24 hours, how dare you make me earn my beads back after, so willingly offering them to you with such little resistance. But if you want a fight I’ll give you a fight. I’ll take you on one at a time, or all at once. I’ve never met a girl I couldn’t lick in a bedfight, and I’d be sure to properly beat up your sensitive parts. Then, as you’re lying there, looking up at me after being pounded into your supine position, I’ll take back my damned beads. Just so you can say those words I love to hear one more time — RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!”

    You talk a real big game here ;)….Mother always said “never write a check that you “hiney” can’t cash” or in your case the KRAKEN 🙂

  53. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I think we BOTH have something sweet to feed him 😉 And of COURSE I’ll make you tamales wearing only my cowgirl boots! 🙂 (Just for you though! Well, and Tequila too, but only if he promises to come in person!)

  54. RussianSB says:

    FRANK you are definately not Frank !

    Who win from out fight ? Only worldwide Capitalists !

  55. RussianSB says:

    Lets fed him with baked sweets only, Dear, after he put us in his will 🙂

  56. FRANK says:

    What do we want?


    When do we want it?

    Right now, so spread them!

    Love spread?

  57. FRANK says:

    Make love not war!

  58. RussianSB says:

    I will come in person, to eat TAMALES (runny suckers!) that Tina cooked herself naked in cowboy shoes. I will eat everything what you made with your little white hands Princess 🙂

  59. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina and @RussianSB
    The 2 of you together was almost too much to handle, so I think I’ll get some tequila to recharge me. LOL. And RussianSB be sure to send me video when Tina delivers tamales…she delivers all her food nekkid to blogmates. See yall in a bit. 🙂

  60. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I think between the two of us we’d give Tequila either diabetes from the sweetness or a heart attack from the bed fights 😉

  61. RussianSB says:

    Tequila, you know what I exactly look like, girl living next door, simple and modest, with homemade applepies, loves to worship her man and bring him slippers after difficult day at
    office 🙂
    I am so sweet, that it can cause diabetics problems.

  62. Tina says:

    @Tequila: hurry back dear, I’m just gettin’ warmed up! 😉

  63. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina and @RussianSB
    OK, you girls have won this round, I need to either go get some bar tequila or a cold shower, but I’ll be back, darnit.

  64. JustATequilaSD says:

    @RussianSB and @Tina

    How about a chocolatety-caramel mix that was both sweet and spicy at the same time? Lovespread, spread it on anything you like. 🙂 OHHHH YEAAAAAAH.

  65. Tina says:

    @Tequila: you provide the tamale and the Tequila, I’ll provide the spread 😉

  66. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina and @RussianSB
    Tamale spread?? That would be a hot time.

  67. RussianSB says:

    Love spread is butter !
    Welcome to 2013, people ! They will make some chocolate spread and call it ”Lovespread”.
    All those talks about chocolate is substitute love endorfines – scares me, people !!!

  68. Tina says:

    Awww, thank you Russian SB! One of these days I need to figure out how to get some tamales to you 😉

    @Tequila: There’s more to spread than love, and it’s MUCH more interesting………

  69. RussianSB says:

    I am not typical SB, but it is my goal – to become typical SB ! It must be fun !
    My girlfriends mostly are typical SBs ! I love the blog, but I have a target group to share my sugar secrets with.
    Tina is faaaaaar awaaaay from typical SB and never she will be like one (it was a compliment).

  70. JustATequilaSD says:

    Maybe I am also guy that peed on newsstand…LOL…I saw a hot girl in there looked like you, was it you?

  71. JustATequilaSD says:

    I am like guy in Top Hat in video. 😀

    mmmm…love spread sounds very 70’s…I can’t believe it’s not butter.

  72. RussianSB says:

    WTF ?
    Johnny, La hante esta muy loca !

  73. Tina says:

    @Frank: I’m tryin’ to spread my love, but someone is being difficult about it! 😉

  74. FRANK says:

    Come on people now
    Smile on your brother
    Everybody get together
    Try to love one another
    Right now

    Right now, right now.

    Peace all my brothers and sisters!!

  75. RussianSB says:

    Typical SB is Gabriella Solis from ”Desperate housewives” !

  76. RussianSB says:

    Typical Sugababy…
    Here she is, blond, in nice dress, with her hair and nails done, in her convertible,
    doing shopping at day time …
    And everybody arround understand – she is Sugarbaby.
    It was popular image of typical SB.

    In reality (Moscow reality) – typical SB – here she is, in her uniform – Juicy Couture training suit and Hermes bag :), doing shopping at day time, nails done but hair in pony tail, flats – because she is driving. Nobody arround understand that she is SB, but other SBs 🙂

    World is upsidedown nowadays. Flirty dressed woman can sue you for sexual harrasment.
    And escort girls dressed in black pants and Prada tartlenecks.
    It is difficult to say who is who now …

  77. Tina says:

    @Tequila: only if I get to use feathers at my own will 😉

  78. JustATequilaSD says:

    As long as you understand that my “chastity jockstrap” is worn backwards, we should have no problem. You can even wear one of those Mardi Gras masks while I scream “show your boobs” and you ride me like a parade float. (Not TOO kinky, but oh what fun.)

  79. Tina says:

    @Tequila: oh the beads I think you need to be introduced to darlin’………I can help you expand that kink of yours 😉

  80. JustATequilaSD says:

    I’ve got some “special” beads just for you…(OK, that’s as far as my kinky goes I think. 😀 )

    This “wrasslin” is guy/girl only. If Ty is an awkward female name feel free to step into the ring. Otherwise, please point me toward your hottest unattached female friend or relative. (Gmilfs accepted as long as they have their own teeth and don’t get attached.)

  81. JustATequilaSD says:

    WTF?? Blogfight and I didn’t even get a swing in? I must be losing my touch.

    I understand your point, about escort etc, but I don’t understand how that applies to the latest circumstances. You mentioned your 2 new interests don’t fit specifically as SD’s. I thought you were happy with the tentative idea of “the rich boyfriend.” Do I need to curse you to actually fall in love again? Maybe this time I can curse him at the same time…think of how awful that would be.

    @Treasured @Jersey @PhoneGuy @CaliSb
    There is something for everyone here. Whether whore, escort, slut, saint, sinner, prude, prostitute, or even priest, this site is still about ppl finding ppl. The only naive thing is for anyone to think that there’s only one way for this site to work. PhoneGuy there is much passion in your words, perhaps you can stick some of that passion inside of CaliSB and you both could meet in the middle? I think you both would benefit from that exchange. Treasured, please don’t let “Jaded” come back, I like seeing your eyes light up…even if it’s not me you’re smiling about.(It’s ok, my Ego and I had a talk about it.) And Jersey, I like your relaxed Cute Confucius style…very nice.

  82. RussianSB says:

    I think 1k (or more) per meet feel not transactional, still being escortish thing.
    What do you think about that ??
    Really, 1k per meet – more like friends with benefits, and not THAT offensive,
    while 200$ per meet is enemies with benefits !

    1k – is friendly,1k – is a respect,1k can pay some bill, 1k can shop something nice.
    1k per meet X one meet per week – made an allowance.

  83. RussianSB says:

    Come on baby, light my fire …
    Fire !
    ”This is not escorting any more than being a wife is being a whore.”

    Wife is the most expensive whore ! 🙂
    Setmy snowball on fire now !!!

  84. Lexxy says:

    Wow sure got heated in here, lol.
    I was posting a few replies, but nothing got posted? weird…Still figuring the blog out
    I had a conversation with my POT the other day about not feeling like an escort vs sb. He said most men (although not him lol. yeah right) feel that sugar babies are.
    My retort to him is, what relationship (minus any witty comments here) isn’t based on sex and money. All come into play at one point or another in a relationship, us SB are just smarter especially if we invest it into our bank accounts, rather then into shoes (although I love shoes)

  85. Phoneguy says:

    Damn, you sound like you’ve been well educated by someone. Maybe your parents. 🙂
    Great advice.

  86. Phoneguy says:

    Cali throws a hand grenade and no one cares.
    I give you the flip side and everyone goes nuts.
    Cluck, cluck, cluck hens. This is not just your locker room where you can bad mouth with impunity.

    Glad to see there are more adorable and naive people on the site. Glad you’re here Jersey.

    • Treasured says:

      Well…Boys and their Ego.

      PS: I didn’t go “nuts” re your comment. That is something I really don’t care.

      And, those are exactly the people, you, guys, so like to mess around with. And leave with a broken heart.

  87. Jersey Darling says:

    I’m a modest person (something that several SDs of mine have told me I should stop being, but it’s my nature). I could never claim my education as excellent because what is an excellent education? 6 year olds in Africa have received a better education in life’s cruelties than I have. Queens from previous generations have received better educations in life’s luxuries.

    Not to get too theoretical here, but I’ve learned the most I can from what I’ve had in this life – nothing more and nothing less. If I went to Harvard, is my education worth any more (student loans notwithstanding) than someone who’s learned through experience? My advice is nothing more than the words and thoughts of one person.

    There is no typical sugar baby, just lost women looking to other women for guidance. There is no typical sugar baby experience. You can be a lowly hooker, a glorified escort or a genuine lover. It all goes back to Phoneguy’s original point – being a sugar baby is what you make of it. Being anything in this life is what you make of it.

    And to women looking for guidance, your best friend in this journey will be your internal compass. Do offers insult you? Excite you? Turn you on? Follow your instincts and enjoy the experience for what it is.

  88. Treasured says:

    I am 27.

    I just had to grow up very quickly and had a very good “school of life” together with my excellent education.

    • Treasured says:

      PS: Experience isn’t always based on age. I am happy to hear a valid advice both from a 5 y.o. and a 55 y.o. And, sometimes, a 5 y.o. makes more sense 😉

  89. Jersey Darling says:

    Treasured – are you older? Just curious, based on you giving out advice. Perhaps you have more to give than me. I’m in my late 20’s.

    Looks like we’ve both had very different experiences or perhaps have just dated different types of men. To be honest, the closest I’ve come to giving out advice has been unsolicited and usually the result of the men confiding in me and me expressing my thoughts.

    Regardless, I’ve enjoyed our exchange and I like getting to hear more about your experiences. I hope you’ll continue to share them.

  90. Treasured says:

    Jersey – quite the opposite, you ARE a typical Sugarbaby.

  91. Treasured says:

    For me it has been different. SDs actually have asked more for my advice, than surprising me with their great success stories, starting with what to wear till what would be a better financial investment…
    I think from now on I have to start charging 10% for successful advice 😀

  92. Jersey Darling says:

    And it’s those life-enriching men that I continue to focus on.

    Give a man a fish and you’ll feed him for a day.
    Give me money for a month and I’ll be able to cover that month’s rent.

    Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
    Give me your experience to learn from and soon I won’t need your money anymore.

    That’s my philosophy. Maybe I’m not your typical sugar baby, but it works for me.

  93. Jersey Darling says:

    Being a Sugar Baby, at least for some of us, is about so much more than money.

    I’ve met some very powerful, successful men this way. Businessmen and entrepreneurs whose experience is priceless. Money is not their most valuable resource – time is. Money received from them is simply a bonus and a compliment. It’s the experience with them that I’m after. And if I can exchange some of my power for some of theirs – not only will I do it gladly, I’ll enjoy every moment of it.

    And I’ll look back on it when I’m 70 with a smile and contentment. Yes, there are some men I wouldn’t have been with if it were not for the money – see example 1 – but there are men I’ve met in this journey that I’d gladly be with outside of sugar.

    • Little White says:

      I completely agree! And amazingly enough, you wrote that entry at the time I was on my way to my first sugar date. It was even better than expected.

      I feel very privileged to be given time to interact with these gentlemen. People in the companies that they work in or own would pay a lot to have time to spend with them to pick their brain. And yet they give that opportunity to me AND PAY ME! This is an amazing opportunity if used properly.

      I also agree with your follow-up. I love you! Thanks for your contributions.

  94. Treasured says:

    That’s it. Hopefully made my point. Now no more.

    Just really get’s something inside me. Self denial.

    I think, so many problems are because of it. Simple denial. “I am not fat”, “I am not drunk”, “I am not for sale”, “I can deal with it”, “I am not in financial trouble”, “He/she really loves me”, “I am 69 and I can still make a 25 year old fall for me”, “I do not need to seek medical help”…
    THAT and people who don’t know what they want. Not having an ability to make a right decision or any decision at all.

  95. Jersey Darling says:


    Yes, I am in a sugar relationship, and it is currently ongoing. That first SD experience I mentioned is a personal one, and I shared it because I wanted girls to see the difference between escorting and what being paid per meet feels like versus being with someone who cares for you at a deeper level. And yes, SDs can care for you. I hated it precisely because I felt like it was escorting. It was not for me.

    In my current SD relationship, he pays in advance. There are no stipulations on how often we see each other, just general guidelines. He would not want me to see him if I truly didn’t want to, and he did a great job of vetting that I wasn’t just there for the money. And if for any reason I wasn’t able to live up to my end of the arrangement, I’d gladly give the money back. He gives me money because he can and because it helps me, not because he must in order for me to spend time with him. I’d enjoy his company regardless.

    And this leads to my next thoughts…

    • Treasured says:

      Then I am very happy for you. You are lucky to have found a man on here with whom you would be regardless if he still had his money or not 🙂

  96. The Silly Hippie says:

    You only call me a slut because you are afraid of my sexuality…

  97. Treasured says:

    Sorry, scrolled up, and got my answers.

    So… Accepting 200$ per meet basis is exactly what?

    And… Even x amount in advance?…..

    • Treasured says:

      Even with all the chemistry?

      Have you ever asked yourself, would you stay with this person if not for the benefits? If he would drop all the Sugar. All the gifts and the best restaurant he would take you would be a PizzaExpress?
      Was the answer ever “no”?… I can bet it was.

  98. Treasured says:

    Jersey, might I ask you 1)How long have you been on here? 2) Did you actually have a Sugar relationship? 3)If you did, how long did it last?

  99. Jersey Darling says:

    @Treasured – fair enough. It’s definitely a heated debate topic.

  100. Jersey Darling says:

    @Treasured, if you think I am being naive and adorable, you’d be surprised to find that more people on this site are naive than you think, and it may actually be you that is jaded.

    I in no way mean this as an attack, as I personally think there is nothing wrong with escorting if that’s what someone chooses to pursue. But frankly, to call sugar babies escorts is a bit presumptuous – escorts get paid more.

    Escorts also get paid to leave. Sugar babies get paid to stay.

  101. Treasured says:

    Official statement.

    I refuse to participate in a whore/escort/prostitute conversation anymore.

    New blog posters might want to scroll back to the earlier topics, if they are interested on my point of view 😀

  102. Treasured says:

    @Girl – YOU GO GIRL! 😀

  103. IloveWestCoastGirl says:

    Phone guy.
    “I think (most) girls on this site are whores who want to get paid for the sleeping around they are going to do anyway. ”

    If this is our blog SDs mentality – what about the rest of SDs on the SA. ?

    The big P. (prostitution ) issues is always here.

    as always double standards .
    Many new girls complained they were almost physically forced to have sex and get nothing of a 100$ .

    And SDs complained they had sex with SB for a year (well, she is closer than a wife after a year of regular sex/meetings) and she dared to ask for a computer (not Tiffany diamonds, not a new Lexus/Mercedes ) , but a 1500$ max computer.

    And SBs write “sorry for your experience….”
    Give her 3 computers, she was taking care of your cock, balls, soul and mind for a year!

    What a terrible experience for a guy. sorry.

    if we are whore here who sleep around – why share your life stories, your thoughts with us? Safe it for your good girls.

    and Yes, we do love sex. is it a crime? 🙂

    once we are 55 y old we will stop doing it (or may be not 🙂 🙂

  104. Treasured says:

    @Jersey – I love people to have an ability to be still so naive and adorable 😛

  105. Treasured says:

    To continue on escorting part:

    “I think there are some critical performance points in a budding relationship
    the intital discussion
    initial meeting
    the financial discussion

    Ummm…. And that is pure love, not an escorting. NOT at all 😀 Just for the Phoneguy 😀

  106. flyr says:

    @jersey – “I’t only escorting if you treat it that way”

    A lot of wisdom in a few words.

  107. AfricanQueen says:

    How long does it take to find a good SD? I’m new to this and have made adjustments to my profile from feedback…but I still keep getting views but nothing further. I send out emails and they view them, but no replies. Am I doing something wrong? Should I just continue to be more patient?

    • Treasured says:

      It depends. Sometimes it takes a month, sometimes a year and sometimes never.

      There isn’t a one set rule!

      Good luck to you 🙂

  108. flyr says:

    @Jackie – from a guy’s perspective I think Jersey’s answer was a great one. I would add one qualification – a personal reservation against a continuing transactional arrangement if it feels awkward to either.

    I think there are some critical performance points in a budding relationship
    the intital discussion
    initial meeting
    the financial discussion

    I am not a fan of transactional arrangements in that bringing an envelope etc takes away some of the illusion. However, looking back I know that the monthly allowance arrangement seems to have resulted in more frequent cancellations (over a substantial sample). The other side of the coin is that with two SB’s the monthly arrangement often resulted in both the regular meetings and her calling asking if she could visit for the weekend or meet in town .

    Unfortunately for SB or SD it is tough to roll back the financial arrangement. My recommendation would first be to make sure you make the deal if you feel the SD is someone you want. But you can also plant some caveats with your yes answer – Something like – I think this will be great. After the first month I need to ask you to simply make the monthly payment in advance (or 2 installments) as the reason i am here is to add some certainty to my finances and my bills some in one lump. Also I would also feel better if we were not exchanging cash when we are meeting.

    Rolling the scene back a little I would amplify Jersey’s comments that this is your relationship. Whether we are out on the town or naked and disturbing the neighbors down the block my expectation is that my SB will be treated as well as or better than a girlfriend or wife. This may or may not have value to you.

  109. Treasured says:

    Phoneguy, please do enlighten me, what it is then?

    Young, very beautiful, smart women, go out/travel/have sex with older, usually not too attractive (otherwise they wouldn’t be on this website. And, I did say USUALLY) men. In return for financial support/gifts.

    Doesn’t mean we don’t have fun along the way, but… It is what it is??!

    I KNOW, ALL of the SD on the forum think that THEIR SB is with them just because he is SO DAMN attractive and they REALLY have feelings for each other.

    Darling, feelings might come later, but in the beginning it is still same old deal 😀

    Sorry, am I too blunt?

  110. Jersey Darling says:

    This is not escorting any more than being a wife is being a whore.

    Phoneguy’s response is a good one: “You both see it as escorting because that’s the way you treat it.” Treasured, I don’t know you well so I don’t know that his line applies to you, but I agree with the greater sentiment – it is only escorting if you treat it that way.

  111. Transgendered Emily from Massachusetts says:

    Another one: He has too many female friends including ones that he met as strippers in a strip club. One bitch was over all the time.
    You know this ex-partner of mine told me that when his first wife of thirty-one years was at home dying of cancer, he went out to these strip joints to console himself. He said the girls working in them were very nice to him when they found out when his wife was dying. He also tips strippers and bartenders well so I’m sure that had something to do with there concern and kindness. What a dog.

  112. Transgendered Emily from Massachusetts says:

    Here’s one for you. If your Sugar Daddy ogles every woman under the age of twenty-seven that walks by; right in front of you. My ex-boyfriend/Daddy did that all the time. He’d break his neck doing it and knew it upset me.

  113. Phoneguy says:

    Ooohh Treasured. I’m so burned by your scathing retort. Turn it off, turn it off!!! 😉
    You both see it as escorting because that’s the way you treat it. 🙂

    Amen Tina.

  114. Tina says:

    Actually what I was describing was a monogamous adult companion with a connection that truly cares about the other party, but doesn’t have a traditional relationship with the expectations and compromises that go with it. There are all types of arrangements.

  115. Treasured says:

    Mind you…. Whoring is to be sleeping only with benefits included.
    I think what you have described is being a slut. THAT is different. 😉

  116. Tina says:

    Good sex is all about technique, patience, and attention to details. GREAT sex is good sex with a mutual connection. 😀 And yes, there ARE men on this site that can provide good sex, and I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing one with GREAT sex. I’m a lucky, lucky girl 😉

  117. Treasured says:

    @Phoneguy – If you thought, THAT is going to offend either me or Cali, you are wrong 😛

    I think both of us have been stating, that being a SB is basically escorting. And, being an escort is a whore.

    I think, if you can’t name things the way they are – your place is still in the sandpit.
    Do not play with the fire, or you can get burned 😉

  118. Phoneguy says:

    Ahah so true. I think (most) guys on this site are here because they know they are not very good in bed, so they have to gift someone to put up with them.
    @Cali, I think (most) girls on this site are whores who want to get paid for the sleeping around they are going to do anyway. 😉

  119. Lexxy says:

    @ Taylor, I could write a book, and have an appendix full of flakey profiles. I can’t imagine the girls doing this for longer. I’m meeting a pot this week, I have some odd feelings, but if he’s open and honest at the meeting, I’ll probably pursue it. (He wants to replace my working income with sugar money, which is amazing since I’m in uni)

  120. Taylor Made SB says:

    @ Lexxy

    I could imagine, I’ve only been on for 4 months and I feel like I can write a book…ok not a book, but I could fill a small notepad 🙂

  121. Lexxy says:

    @Jackie, I had a sugar daddy who would give me 300$ per met, we would meet in a hotel , and he would cover that cost too (due to his marriage, I also ended up getting a points card and got a bunch of free nights from it so it was a good deal lol!), but, It felt transactional, and hookerish. It was my first SD, now he wants to meet and start an arrangement again, maybe he’ll step his game up lol!
    Anyways do what’s best for you and what YOU feel comfortable doing, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise.

  122. Lexxy says:

    Ps: I’m new to the blog but been on SA for just over a year. Look forward to blogging about my stories for you ladies, Ive had some pretty wild expierences I look forward to sharing

  123. Taylor Made SB says:


    “Hi everyone- I am still pretty new at this. Just got an offer from a pot SD for $300 per meet. I have no idea what is the norm for a sugar relationship. should I be insulted by this offer? Any feedback would be appreciated”

    $300 per meet, not insulting at all, perhaps he could’ve worded it a little different. $1200 a month would’ve sounded a bit better. I personally like to receive my sugar in bulk, I don’t know about you but my bills can’t really do the layaway thing, a bit now a bit later. I agree with Jersey if it compensates you and your needs than what the hay 😉

    The older man next to me keeps peering over at my screen…hmm hope he isn’t getting any ideas…blehhh :p

  124. lexxy says:

    Treasured, could you link me to the story about the guy from Monte carlo /london…. I came close to meeting him.

    • Treasured says:

      Hey Lexxy.

      Sorry, can’t find the post anymore…. Was somewhere in November/December. Maybe mods can find it and link it? Pretty please.

      He is not dangerous, but he was the most unpleasant man I have met with. He is legit. But… You know, there are categories on sleeping with someone: 1) Yes, please! 2)Yes, maybe. 3)What will be an arrangement like? 4)What will be an arrangement like and where is Champagne? 5) Sorry, but I can’t get THAT drunk!
      He falls in a latest. And… He wants to “try, before he buys”. And he buys ONLY “if you blow his mind off in bed”….

  125. Taylor Made SB says:

    All aboard!!!…Im in route to meet a pot SD :)…there’s WiFi on the train!…everything is going great, i’m not nervous……yet :)…..Wish me luck, I have a good feeling about this one…well and the last 12 -_-

  126. Jersey Darling says:


    One more thing… you shouldn’t ask if you should feel insulted. Only you know how you feel – do you feel insulted or do you not? You should not base your sugar journey on the exploits of others; you will always be disappointed.

  127. janine says:

    I miss you guys and the blog! My computer AND phone finally broke so I can’t long on and hang out with you guys on the blog as often as I’d like :'(

    I hate meeting the perfect SD only to break up because his wife finds out. Wrong on so many levels 🙁 But this is why there’s no such thing as perfect.

    And I did have an SD who lowered my allowance without discussing it with me first. I asked why and he got so mad! Obviously, I never talked to him again.

    Someone else asked about recieving an allowance per meet. If that’s ok with you, sure, but make sure you will meet him enough to meet your financial requirements, though it does seems kind of “different” make sure he is trustworthy and don’t give up anything until you know he’s not a creep.

  128. Jersey Darling says:


    “Hi everyone- I am still pretty new at this. Just got an offer from a pot SD for $300 per meet. I have no idea what is the norm for a sugar relationship. should I be insulted by this offer? Any feedback would be appreciated”

    I’m going to take a different approach to this than most.

    Would $300 per meet make you happy? Will you feel fairly compensated? Is this enough to help you meet your financial goals?

    I think if you compare yourself to many women on here, they’ll say that you shouldn’t accept less than $3-5K per month. The problem with that statement is $300 is better than $0 if you are happy with it.

    With my first SD, I accepted $200 per meet in addition to dinner and little trips. I wasn’t having luck finding anyone else so I tried it. I hated it. Even though he was nice, it felt transactional and I felt it was nowhere near enough to justify having to be completely subservient to him behind closed doors.

    He was a learning experience, and I moved on to meet people who offered much more – both chemistry and money. If I’d had enough chemistry with him that I’d be with him for free, $200 might have been amazing. But it wasn’t.

    Also, I personally find that when SDs talk about it from the start on a “per meet” basis, this is code for them looking for an escort more than anything else. The real SDs have asked me what my goals are, I’ve told them, and they’ve either been able to meet them or they haven’t. Even if it eventually does get broken down to a per meet basis in the future (it hasn’t in my case), it never started out being discussed that way.

    You also have to consider what you want. When someone is thinking in terms of “per meet,” it is a clue that they probably are not looking for something long term.

  129. Ty says:

    @ Tequila

    Oh, I like to “wrassle”

  130. Scamfighter says:

    Guys- After noticing a certain unusual phrase started to look familiar while reviewing profiles I ran a keyword search and 36 profiles turned-up in the results! If you search smaller parts of it even more will return. I reported this to SA but they haven’t done anything. I’ve pasted the phrase below. Check it for yourself, be sure to use “quotation marks”:

    “I don’t like most guys, but… I am not interested in most guys and besides perhaps that what makes those few unique individuals that I do connect with all more special.”

  131. Tina says:

    @Tequila: ahhh, but I get what I want from your response! You would earn your beads back, because during all of that I’m SURE I would sneak a peek at the Kraken 😉 I would even go so far as to drape the beads nicely over the Kraken as he slept 😉

    So, BRING…..IT……ON…….


  132. Taylor Made SB says:

    I’ve had to change my entire approach due to time wasters. I thought it was rude to mention allowance prior but I’ve found that it makes the situation go a lot smoother. I’m a nice person but my charming ways weren’t getting my tuition paid 🙂

  133. California SB says:

    Treasured: “best sex is yet to find off this website”

    Ahah so true. I think (most) guys on this site are here because they know they are not very good in bed, so they have to gift someone to put up with them. If they were really good in bed… there would be girls lining up at their door… for free.

  134. Treasured says:

    Oh well, I’ll keep my good ones to myself:D But, best sex is yet to find off this website:P

  135. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Treasured .
    Thank you for sharing.
    a lot of time wasters at the SA , I guess.
    Who is a good one ?:)) 🙂
    Would you tell ? 🙂
    1. what Profile number was the best provider
    2. who was the best sex
    3. Who was the best good looking

    🙂 at least 3 profiles 🙂

  136. The Silly Hippie says:

    I get the posting fakes, but can’t we report those guys to SA somehow, and get them removed? Such a pain that fakes need be reported by word of mouth! I hate fakes, stand ups, time wasters, ugh! Sorry, ruff day. Just ready to string the bad ones! Seriously!

  137. Jackie says:

    Hi everyone- I am still pretty new at this. Just got an offer from a pot SD for $300 per meet. I have no idea what is the norm for a sugar relationship. should I be insulted by this offer? Any feedback would be appreciated

  138. Madridista says:

    @Russian — Going topless (and sometimes even bottomless) is a non-issue in Spain. I tried it in Ibiza with layers of sunblock just to see what it’s like and felt very liberated! I come from a very conservative area in TX and I just wanted to experience things here that I could NEVER EVER do in the States, so that was my main reason for doing it. Although it is bad for the skin and my boobs need the support otherwise I’d feel the weight as they bounce and it freaks me out that without any support they’ll sag faster (I even read something about how it’s recommended to sleep in a bra, but after all day in one I can’t bring myself to do it), so the Ibiza incident was a one time thing (for now). But I’ve seen people ride their bicycles naked (this was in Barcelona, not in my Madrid) and it seems like a nudity in general here is not eyebrow raising.

    My new BF did tell me (after I told him about my Ibiza incident) that he doesn’t want me to do it anymore, because my boobs are for his eyes only. He likes to show me off in public, but not when I’m that naked!

  139. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina @Taylor @Silly Hippie

    I DO make your clothes fall off. Did someone say BOOBIES??? And here I am in a puff of red smoke, with that naughty grin that too few of you have seen. And now after a long nearly sleepless 24 hours, how dare you make me earn my beads back after, so willingly offering them to you with such little resistance. But if you want a fight I’ll give you a fight. I’ll take you on one at a time, or all at once. I’ve never met a girl I couldn’t lick in a bedfight, and I’d be sure to properly beat up your sensitive parts. Then, as you’re lying there, looking up at me after being pounded into your supine position, I’ll take back my damned beads. 😀 Just so you can say those words I love to hear one more time — RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!

    P.S. – For the new ladies reading this, it’s actually a very good thing. I don’t flash my boobies to get my beads back. You’ll have to “wrassle” me for dem beads.

  140. LASugarBaby says:

    What if your sugar daddy is famous? Like very well known, and do the rules still apply for the allowance to be provided in partial or whole before the bedroom? Or did the 5 star date and cash the first meeting prove he is legit?

  141. RussianSB says:

    @Tina… I didn’t offer you to walk with naked tits ! Oh, no, you can catch cold ! And, ladies. don’t do that top-less sunbathing – it looks cheap and can cause skin problems on your most delicate areas. I go to Europe every year for beach vacation, very popular to tan top-less there. Guys even don’t look !
    And, boys – tell me , are you feel comfortable when your GF, SB, wife – lie next to you top-less ?

  142. RussianSB says:

    Boys also welcome to share bad apples here.
    But girls more interested in the arrangement, and if statistics is 1 SD for 10 SB,
    boys have bigger field to play with our time. I don’t mind to have a date that leads to nowhere, at least if it is normal date with nice conversation. Nobody ought me nothing here. But when people intentionally ask for your time and no show, and ask you for travel in the very close future but are not serious about it – it must be shared. Simply not nice. But still here a lot of serious SDs, when you meet one – you will see the difference from the begining , how he planing things and dates, that he doesn’t promice you the world, but just do what he supposed to do – presents and allowance. I am still about not allowance-talk. In my previous arrangements I was satysfied with my allowance and still don’t need to discuss it. Everything must go with class, both from ladies and from gentelmen.
    PS. And, still, you can have money-talk here one hundred times and never see any 🙂

  143. RussianSB says:

    548394 – interested in sex content letters and pictures, I googled him – and guess what ?
    He is photografer !

  144. RussianSB says:

    I always appreciatewhen you sharing, girls. Silly Hippie – your choise to accept that information ornot, but when you look up mentioned profiles,you actually meet some red flags there, so itsave alot of time wasting.
    559173 – call me when he stay at Moscow at 3 a.m. in the morning – no comments 🙂

  145. RussianSB says:

    Thank you for sharing, Treasured, I get a lot of mails from Europe and UK.
    Again, from previos blog profile 1270923 – not SD, lie about his income and age.

  146. Leila says:

    @Treasured,i think its wonderful that you’re exposing the bad apples..
    ..by exposing then and pointing then out, you’re saving others time who might be following the same paths,especially the newbies. In fact It is my fervent wish that we get a special blog for that.
    Keep them coming sweet pea:)

  147. Lo says:

    actually I appreciate Treasured listing the SDs who waste time so other girls can avoid them and not have to suffer. There was a San Diego SD I thought would work out, but he’s so busy he only gives me a moments notice to hang out. Like the same night he’ll text asking “what are you doing right now”. Getting ready is an art that can’t be rushed. Don’t think that ones going anywhere.

    • janine says:

      Seriouslly! When will guys understand this? We’re obviously attractive if the guy decides he wants to meet up, but looking like a 10 takes more than ten minutes.

  148. California SB says:

    Silly Hipppie: “What do you mean be careful of the psychos? I’m scared now!”

    Yup, be careful. Guys when get rejected can become total psychos especially if they happen to give you a lot of money in advance. Trust your instincts and only get advanced monthly allowance if you are comfortable with your new SD.

    • The Silly Hippie says:

      @ California SB

      that is super scary. I always make sure to cover myself from crazies tho. Thanks for the warnings.

  149. The Silly Hippie says:

    @ Treasured I hate when people are inconsiderate like that

  150. Treasured says:

    PS: Those are not SDs who are just “looking for other things”. These are those, who wasted my time, being well aware of what I am looking for.

  151. The Silly Hippie says:

    Advice appreciated @ Treasured, just saying mail it or somemething instead of putting it on a public form.

  152. Treasured says:

    TSH – I am not slamming. I have not been following the blog lately, so am not really sure if you are new to the Sugar World or not… But once you have been for a while, and did have your time wasted over and over again, you would appreciate the advice.

    By the way, mods, feel free to remove it 😀 If European SBs are interested, I can mail the list.

  153. The Silly Hippie says:

    @ Treasured

    While I admire your thoughts on warning other SBs I don’t think it’s a great idea to slam them on a public form. Each person has there own side to the story. I wouldn’t want an SD posting drama about me if. I’m not shady, however some SDs are looking for other things, same with SBs. Just because they don’t work out with you doesn’t mean they may not find a perfect arrangement for them.

    What does everyone else think?

  154. Treasured says:

    All this talking about dodgy SD…

    I finally decided to make my personal contribution. I made a list of SDs in Europe. It is not full, since some profiles I can’t find, but, ladies on this side of the Atlantic’s might find it useful, and hopefully it will save your time.

    So. My personal list “to avoid”. By the way, I think SA should have a section where SB can post about fake or flaky SD and the same one for SD, who can post there.

    150688 – Real, good looking and very very busy. Meaning, will sit on your Skype months and never take any action.

    1221005 – sounded perfect on paper and phone. Disappeared in a thin air, after promising to schedule a date in the nearest future.

    1102830 – Also sounded great (and was writing emails of how great I sound and we have the best connection ever), but apparently found his SB. Yet still is on this site and several others. Still unclear of what is he looking for. Picture not his (well… maybe 20 years ago. Mind you, still quite ok looking).

    328970 – A special case. Offers trip to Milan for shopping and champagne on the first date. Writes to every single new girl.

    950391 – Ok… This one… He would have probably made a perfect SD… Real. Very wealthy. Attractive and very charismatic. Wasn’t quite sure if to include him in this list or not. But still doesn’t know what he wants, but it is definitely not a monthly arrangement. Also, very busy and very married. Will be able to meet only very occasionally.

    771852 – AVOID! With the huge A. Wants entertainment for free and has some very serious kinks. Real, but definitely not a SD.

    617824 – The crowning glory. I guess, this one doesn’t need an explanation (was described by me before). Good if you are willing to repay some karmic debt and are open to charity.

  155. Taylor Made SB says:


    A cheeky minded individual, I like it!!!…I’m sure he’ll return and have a field day with all these post

    50 dates is an understatement lol….My first Pot was great, probably the best one yet but it was all squandered when he became upset that I “blew him off” to attend a meeting with my best friend ( I told him ahead of time). While sugar is fun, friends are forever. I often think of him and I do wish things could’ve worked out, lol would’ve saved me loads of time 🙂 Oh well…maybe one day

    • The Silly Hippie says:

      @ Taylor Made SB
      I see that with a few pot SDs they want you to drop everything with a moments notice. Real SDs will understand, they have wives and lives outside of us. can’t blame us for having the same.

      • Taylor Made SB says:

        I’ve found that with most single pot SD’s, they are more “one sided” when it comes to planning in accordance to availability. I stated before after a 5 hour flight a pot SD wanted to meet, I’m very easy going but as any other normal person I was tired, hungry, and I probably looked terrible lol…I made an exception and of course he didn’t show :)….Lesson for the future, I try to steer clear of singles 😉

  156. Lady Vuitton *1171431 says:

    Evening Everyone from the UK

    How is everyone keeping ?

  157. RussianSB says:

    Girls and boys – be ready to go for 50 dates or don’t do it at all.
    I have perfect and really special connection with my first potential SD from SA.
    And I thought he will be my first and my last one andmy search is over.
    He is real, and I have all info about him, he provide it.
    But still it was ”no show”, I think he was not serious about sugar, I also guess that he was sugar newbie, which is strange at the age of 50.

  158. Tina says:

    @Taylor Made: I was thinking that same line, but was afraid of the come back some blogger with the same name would have (although he is mysteriously absent…hmmmmm….usually “boobies”, “Tequila” and “nekkid” are his bat signal……) 😉

  159. Taylor Made SB says:


    I thought it was “Tequila makes her clothes fall off” ? Lol in any case both sayings are very true, I have proof of that 😉


    I think there’s something your dad isn’t telling you 🙂

    I’ve experienced PLENTY of no shows, this past Monday when I returned from my Holiday a Pot SD wanted to meet after I’d landed that same day, I waited around the town twiddling my thumbs until he FINALLY called 3 hours later stating that he was still at work and wouldn’t make it! I was sooo annoyed, I hate nothing more than wasting my time.

  160. Tina says:

    @Frank: nope, I think it’s safe to say that he didn’t flash his boobies to get those beads 😉 And you have had some REALLY bad excuses thrown at you! SHEESH!

  161. Frank says:

    I have had a couple of no shows. One where the gal said she had to take her son to the ER. I guess she didn’t have time to contact me since you never have to sit around and wait in the ER.

    Another time, I was to meet the SB in the restaurant parking lot. I was there before the time, and stayed around for some time after that. There was no one in the parking lot. She later told me that she was there, i just didn’t see her! Haha.

  162. Frank says:

    My dad came back from Mardi Gras with a bunch of beads years ago. You don’t think he was showing his boobs do you?

  163. Tina says:

    @Taylor Made: what’s the saying? Just add Tequila and you have an instant party? 😉

  164. Taylor Made SB says:

    @ Tina

    Lol grade school lessons still in use today ;)…Sharing is caring, it could be fun :p

  165. Tina says:

    @The Silly Hippie: The weather isn’t that cold here right now, we’re expecting another cool front later this week, but it should be *relatively* warm enough for top nekkidness

  166. Tina says:

    @Taylor Made: Now now, the Tequila must be shared 😉

  167. Tina says:

    @Tequila: I’ll get beads from you, but only if you promise to earn them back the Mardi Gras way 😉 Tit for…….tat…… 😉

  168. Taylor Made SB says:


    I want them all 🙂

  169. The Silly Hippie says:

    Big bright Shiney beads please! :-p

  170. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina @Taylor @SillyHippie

    I’m sure I can find some beads somewhere…

  171. Taylor Made SB says:

    I attended a Carnivale celebration in Germany during my extensive Tour de Europa, one of the best experiences of my life and I’m a very coy individual. Everyone was so carefree, that really assisted in me letting loose :). Mardi Gras….Ive heard great things, my spring break is in February so perhaps I’m ready to take on the great celebration of Mardi Gras. My bucket list consist of getting beads, the proper way 😉

  172. Tina says:

    @The Silly Hippie: I might try Carnivale one of these days, but I definitely know I won’t be a painted lady! 🙂

    As far as the dude, I would respond to him that you aren’t comfortable sending all of that information yet, and would like to get to know him a little better before doing so. He might want to do some research on you and that’s why he wants this info. It could be harmless, but not always. If you’re not comfortable, just tell him so. If he poofs, then he wasn’t worth the time or effort.

    • The Silly Hippie says:

      Thanks Tina that’s what I did!

      I’m just afraid Austin will be so cold parading around naked. Any girl who says she is painted and that’s not naked is really in denial. I’m just glad this hippie found a way to parade the streets naked without getting arrested for it! :-p

  173. The Silly Hippie says:

    @ Tina
    I’m going to Austin for Carnivale! I’m going to be a painted lady! I’m so excited! You should just try it one year for the hell of it!

    @ California SB
    What do you mean be careful of the psychos? I’m scared now!

    Ok so this guy messages me back on here and he wants me to email him pictures, my name, and cell phone number? Why? my photos and name are already on my profile or in my messages? I find that really odd.

  174. California SB says:

    I had only one no show in my entire sugar life (3 years). After that happened, I only do first time meet & greets within 10 miles where I live. I also discuss allowance before meeting, because I have wasted my time so many times with CHEAP LOSERS that I rather get that talk straight before I waste my make up meeting them. Allowance in advance is nice, but be careful with psychos if you change your mind later…

  175. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: Me? At a celebration as large as Mardi Gras AND the Superbowl? OOOOHHHH NOOOOOO!!!!! Nope! Nuh uh! I don’t mind a crowd or a party, but that is WAAAAY too much for lil ol me! I’m a bit too reserved for THAT much excitement all at once! (But I WILL hit MG one of these days, probably next year, since Austin is about an 8 to 9 hour drive to New Orleans).

    Austin hosts a version of Carnivale every year where women are topless with artistic body paint. There are some REALLY impressive artists out there, although I don’t think I could do it. Just because my nipples would be painted orange, they’re still nekkid to me! Nope!

  176. RussianSB says:

    I really have what to show, but never show it ! Nobody will see it – only me !
    Oh… I forget about Playboy and Penthouse with naughty pictures of me !
    I was young, stupid and need to pay my tuition 🙂
    No, I was just young.
    I newer been stupid (I doubt I will marry US senator in future).
    My tuition paid by stipendia – cause I am super smart.
    And I have boobies also !
    It called boobies-smart person !

  177. RussianSB says:

    I love ”The naked gun”
    Give tuna to starving people, and give fat dolfins to cats !
    It making point to me NOW, when my favorite doctor in danger !

  178. Madridista says:

    For all you guys who love boobs and sports, go to a major football (soccer) tournament or celebrations. Last summer I saw too many to count, especially during the celebrations when one creative gal painted the flag across her chest. One German model got her footballing BF by flashing him at a match. Of course, in Spain public nudity is not a big deal, except for the gawking tourists.

  179. RussianSB says:

    Oh, guys don’t like ”princess” who ”deserve” something ! But I am – Jewish Russian Princess.
    Thank you Jack, for all you patience and attention. We must do that jacuzzi therapy, we just must do it. I am absolutely positive about !!! But , so hard to make appointment with you, when you not swimming with sharks – you swimming with dolfins !!! Wild beasts ! Can bite my doctor !

  180. RussianSB says:

    @I Love You West Coast Girl (from the previous blog I ketchup 🙂 )
    Sex training ? Really ? In Moscow ??? Noway !

    I deserve it !
    I DESERVE IT ! I need it badly – it is the best present for girls party before marriage !!!!!! EVER

    And I am really need it, you see, guys, in bed I am like a log. Selfish, noiseless, nimphomaniac log 🙂

  181. The Silly Hippie says:

    @ RussianSB thanks for the insight, I’ll try to be more silly :-p

  182. RussianSB says:

    Some nice ”too-good-to-be-true” guy write to me few days ago. I say – Ok, call me, I want hear your voice … and he never did ! Magic ! Boys and girls – don’t be dissapointed about such small things.

  183. RussianSB says:

    Spa also can charge from 50% to 100% nowadays, if you not show, or cancell appointment too late. But, people, how dare you compare Spa and some silly web dating with some people who enjoy web flirt and from the beginning don’t have intentions to meet ??

    • Madridista says:

      I love this! I think I’ll become like a spa and start charging late fees for some of my friends. I know being late is like a national past time here, but some of them take to a whole new level.

  184. RussianSB says:

    @Silly Hippie – hippie style is a new trend this fashion season 🙂
    ”they also give you allowances or money because they want to see you leave” – you are too smart and too deep into things from the very begining. Try to get silly – it helps.
    And you are mistaken – mistress don’t have more rights than SB, and GF also. Only WIFE has rights. Everyone else just bed-friends plus verbal status BS.

  185. Madridista says:

    Regarding no-shows:

    What’s up with that recently? It seems on every other topic some SD or SB won’t show up. One would think that with recent technology one easy text or email (or heaven forbid, phone call) and it’s all resolved. If you’re running late (no need to launch into detailed explanation why), let someone know. If some emergency/last minute thing came up, let your date know. If you changed your mind and don’t want to go through with it, just let them know that you’re no longer interested. Easy for all and minimal time wasted. It never happened to me with sugar, but I had a friend who would constantly leave me waiting or not show up and I’d be sitting for two hours waiting and texting, only to hear from her the next day. It really sucks to just sit around looking all alone with nothing to do but look around. On the other hand, where I live now (Spain), it’s not considered rude to be late at all. Somebody could be 45min. to 1 hour late and it would be considered to be right on time. So maybe some no shows are coming from a culture where being late is not rude and an hour late no big deal??? Just genuinely curious because here it’s such a non-issue even with public places like government offices and banks never opening on time and the only place it’s an issue is if somebody’s late for training and then the club fines you by the hour or by the session (depending on how much you missed). If it’s not the norm for them, then maybe they need a remedial lesson on how to use the phone or common curtesy???

    • The Silly Hippie says:

      I agree, just call me, text, or email. Whatever really! It makes me hesitant to go out there and meet more pot SDs least I waste my time! Being late is one thing, being inconsiderate is just another. I don’t have or need people like that in my life, let alone an SD!

  186. RussianSB says:

    ” just ask Katie Holmes.” LOL, what an example !!!
    ” I assume RussianSB is thinking that there is an imbalance in power in the relationship when you are dating someone that you looked up to before you started dating.” Absolutely correct – fans, media, and our imagination made up heroy image a lot. I meet some of mine, one from sport (tennis), two professional musicians and were very disappointed. About ”famouse” bussiness whales (bigger than sharks, I mean) – I run away like from fire, or from lepros, or both.
    But, Madridista, you are smart, grown up girl, you know what you are doing, pity that Russian gentelman lose you…
    Guys, do you know, that Russians require lepro medical test for Russian bussiness visa ??
    They not serious, they just kidding about American paper crazy visa work that way. LOL.
    Who come to Russia not by turist visa ??

  187. Madridista says:

    @Phoneguy — Oh, not the dreaded TomKat comparison! I’ve dated other athletes before (even more higher profile than him), but it was only casual, not serious/monogamous like my current relationship. Plus, unlike KH, I don’t have rose-colored glasses when it comes to him because I’ve seen him at his worst/lowest and have had a platonic relationship with him months before we started to talk actual dating (we texted/called and used social media before I moved to Spain). I really lucked out with him, so here’s hoping it lasts 🙂 Balance of power is relevant only when one person idol-worships the other and doesn’t really bother getting to know the person behind the image and what they’ve read/heard in the media. No wants to date their fan girl who’ll agree to anything — it takes a much stronger woman to handle all the football craziness and drama because there is not one day that goes without it.

  188. RussianSB says:

    I hope boobies connected to Super Bowl, and not to Mardi Grass (and, yes, I saw it in Bond moovie)

  189. RussianSB says:

    @Tina, sister, go there ! Better to do that and be sorry, than being sorry for not doing that.
    And it is close to you (regarding my imaginative map of US)

  190. The Silly Hippie says:

    I’m bisexual. I think I’d die and go to heaven! Lol

  191. Phoneguy says:

    even straight women can’t resist!
    I knew it!!! 😉

  192. Tina says:

    @The Silly Hippie: NUH UH! My Texas butt is stayin RIGHT here in Austin! I’m not even THINKING of New Orleans during that time! Well, maybe I will be…..it IS the Super Bowl and Mardi Gras after all! Beer and boobies – even straight women can’t resist! 😉

  193. The Silly Hippie says:

    @ Tina & tequila
    My father was there, huge new England fan. Said it was the best night of his life. If the patriots go this year I am so wanting to go! maybe be my turn to see my super bowl moment. :-p

  194. Taylor Made SB says:

    On the topic I had an SD inform me that he could no longer be a financial SD but he was still interested in a arrangement. He said that his advice was free and he’d like to travel with me, but i’m a full time student and a athlete, in season!….lol he could’ve avoided the BS and just said he was no longer interested :p

  195. Tina says:

    @Tequila: Superbowl and Mardi Gras at the same time? WHAAAAAT? That’s just crazy talk! (And a LOT of drunk people!!!!)

  196. JustATequilaSD says:

    @RussianSB and @Frank
    SuperBowl is back to back with Mardi Gras this year same as in 2002. (Feb 3 and Feb 12). This is a GREAT time to do both.

    And now it’s time for a sober, clothed, Tequila memory:
    In 2002 it was Rams vs Patriots and only 5 months after 9/11. One of my buds was managing a club on Bourbon St in the French Quarter, and had asked me to help him out during that crazy crossover month. I was working the door and security/bouncing. We had a pretty plentiful security staff, with all the heightened awareness from the September tragedy. And and I think the national guard and state police were doing foot patrols as well. It was just nuts. So many people, so crowded, so drunk. The movie Rollerball was soon to hit theaters and Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, LL Cool J, and Chris Klein were all in the area. Miss Romijn-Stamos popped in one night when I was off. 🙁 Dammits. Chris Klein came in late one night and I did the Cha Cha Slide with him, his brother and some girls since we weren’t very busy at that time. One night someone at the other door had to turn away Britney Spears because she had just recently turned 20 and we couldn’t let in anyone that wasn’t 21. I felt the pain of the Rams fans as their hard work was stolen from them. I enjoyed the sheer giddiness of the Patriots fans as their hopes and dreams came to fruition. I watched an employee get a bj while standing behind a covered railing, as he did his best to give out wristbands as I collected cover charges.(And none of the patrons even realized what was going on…except that “one” of course.) I remember my reaction as I collected money from a group of real-live pimps (with their “A” girls in tow.) One with his effeminate professionally permed hair and mink coat, the other, older with a pinstriped suit, cane, and fedora. I helped break up a fight and we literally tossed a couple people out. Wow, to see a human being hefted by their waistband and neck collar and then pitched so effortlessly by one person was simply amazing. Of course, this feat was done by a young 6 foot tall mountain whose shoulders actually seemed 4 feet across. (I’m a big boy, but this guy was freakin huge. Stocky huge, like turn sideways to go through the door huge.) And I remember all the flashing boobies to get in without the cover charge, and other offers to which I simply responded, “sorry, I’m on the clock.” Ah, such fond memories. 😀

  197. The Silly Hippie says:

    I think the best way to end a SD/SB relationship is on good terms. I think people can achieve this as long as they keep open and honest with each other from the beginning. I see a lot of stories on this blog about talking about it from the first meeting, and people discussing how to end it, but SD / SB maitainence is an issue too! I think many men like to spoil you, but they also give you allowances or money because they want to see you leave. They don’t want a hooker, or escort, but being a SB doesn’t give you mistress rights either. I hear a lot of SDs want that drama free relationship and that is why money is involved. It makes it a practical, business, no nonsense approach to dating.

  198. The Silly Hippie says:

    @NC Gent

    I think that is the beauty of maturity. Some people mature very quickly, some never mature at all. At least we get a good laugh out of it later! :-p

  199. NC Gent says:

    Hey Silly Hippie — it happened quite a while ago, but I still laugh about it today 🙂 We had quite a few good times, but something happened that was beyond our control, and we never recovered from it — that was the final straw. Interestingly, the SB who did that recently reached out to me to apologize for having done that — all is good now.

  200. Tina says:

    @Guru: just to clarify, I was mentioning the “rough patch” as an example, but appreciate your response. I agree – the rough patch has to be just that, and having it at the beginning of a relationship can either make you stronger together (since you can find out quickly if that person is there for you when you need them most) or determine that this isn’t the relationship for you. Recurring “rough patches” aka “relationship eczema” isn’t healthy for either of you – one of you needs to get yourself together, and the other is being an enabler for bad behavior.

    As for me personally, things are as smooth as a baby’s bottom 😉

  201. The Silly Hippie says:

    @NC Gent
    Sorry to see that happen to you, but in a way it’s almost relieving for me to see SDs have a hard time out there too.
    What kind of SB is so ungrateful for a trip together? Or any SB that responds in links to what she wants all the time clearly doesn’t understand the idea of mutually beneficial vs gold digger!

  202. Tina says:

    @NC Gent: welcome back! And WOW on that cue! After nine months she didn’t know well enough to at least hint at it? SHEESH! On to bigger and better things (aka SBs) for you! 😉

  203. Jersey Darling says:

    @Silly, no-shows are the worst. I can’t be bothered with them. Luckily, I haven’t had that happen me with anybody from this site.

  204. NC Gent says:

    Hello all — it has been a while since I posted — hope everyone is doing well and your sugar is sweet!

    I had to share my all-time favorite sign that my relationship was over….

    I sent an email to my SB of 9 months inquiring about the logistics of our next trip together and her response was a link to a new laptop computer… nothing else… just the link to the laptop she wanted… she was upset when I ended things with her… go figure :/

  205. gtt_envy says:

    @Sillyhippie, yeah any response to him would be 100% a negative one!! I would say he is full of crap!!

  206. The Silly Hippie says:

    Hey guy, this is kind of on topic, but kind of maybe a related topic.

    I am new here, I do not have a SD yet, but I have been communicating to many pot SDs and arranged a few dates. I have noticed some of the warning signs mentioned on this post and in the comments, if I am just talking to a guy and I see any of these red flags I am done. If I meet a guy and I see these break up signs, which I also look at as red flags for potentials, I am done.

    So I have a few questions, it seems like I am attracting the wrong types of SDs so far. I am very good about being up front, honest, and real about this. Does it just take a little while to get your feet wet or does it pick up after a bit?
    Are the signs of time to end a SD/SB relationship also the red flags to ward off the insincere pot SDs?
    Also I am a little bummed out today. I had a date with a potential SD today, it was already rescheduled. When he rescheduled he called very nicely and explained things with work, he wasn’t blowing me off, still wanted tok meet up with me, you catch the drift. So I thought hey yeah not good that he rescheduled but at least he didn’t no show. So today he no showed. I was so mad I haven’t texted him to ask why, but should I? Or should I just drop it and move on to better things? I’m going with the later I just hate wasting my time, and would like to avoid this with future potential SDs.

    Okay I’m done! Thanks for listening!

  207. Frank says:

    American SWVA classics, Red eye gravy, moonshine/white lightning, flat footing

  208. SD Guru says:

    You have to start asking yourself “is this just a rough patch, or should I move on?”.

    I didn’t get to your previous post on this topic so I’ll address it here. There is no easy answer and I think it depends on a number of factors. For example, how long have you been togetehr and whether this is the first time you’re having a rough patch. If you’ve been together for a while and it’s the first rough patch, then perhaps you could give it the benefit of the doubt. But if the rough patch is becoming a recurring theme then it should be time to move on. Also, some sugar relationships have a built in end date for the SB, such as graduation or starting a new job. In that case you’ll have to weigh whether it’s wroth riding out the rough patch until the end.

    OOhhhhhh how many can I add?

    Please keep it coming!! 🙂

  209. gtt_envy says:

    OOhhhhhh how many can I add?

    *When they txt with a crazy emergency asking for $$ yet post on their FB/Instagram account they are having so much fun at a certain party!

    *When they routinely lie about what they are doing or where they are!

    *When you don’t hear from them for days at a time!

    *The flip side is when they text you 30 times day every second wanting to know what’s up? When will you guys hang out again and gets pissed when it isn’t all the time.

    *Or the last one flight/hotel booked and where is she? I have no idea, so I cancelled both of them for small fee…….lol.

  210. Phoneguy says:

    @Frank, wait, there’s a game that goes along with all that drinking, eating and commercial watching? 😉 Next you’ll be telling me there is gambling associated with this “game” also.

    @RussianSB, Feb 3rd in New Orleans.

    @Madridista, just ask Katie Holmes. 😉 I assume RussianSB is thinking that there is an imbalance in power in the relationship when you are dating someone that you looked up to before you started dating. I’m sure it all seems normal (all your friends are dating athletes), but I would think it’s a pretty small group. Good luck with your new beau.

  211. Madridista says:

    @RussianSB — Why is it a bad idea to date your heroes? I didn’t know that it’s something every woman knows. Most women I know are dating athletes, so I guess I’m not the only one who missed that memo 🙂
    Besides I don’t know any man who pursued me so much and for so long and who does so many sweet things even when we’re not together. For instance, he found the old jersey my Catalan grandfather used to play in in the fifties and made the club just give it to me. Then at a Christmas lunch for his team, somebody was teasing him about me (I’m a supporter and staff of his rival team) and he said I’m the most perfect, most accomplished woman in the world, so it doesn’t matter to him that I’m a rival fan girl. I feel so adored 🙂 So it’s not bad to date your heroes, Russian, especially when you get to see them in action as they make thousands of fans happy, like tonight.

  212. RussianSB says:

    Now I know tamales, rodeo and Super Bowl. And you know about chairs and money exchange.

  213. RussianSB says:

    And when that American Football Final will be ??

  214. Frank says:

    UMMM- a recent American tradition, where we all get together, watch the pro championship football (that’s American football, not soccer) game on TV, eat and drink a lot and watch a lot of commercials.

  215. RussianSB says:

    Frank, what is Super Bowl ?

  216. true orlando SB says:

    On the Topic: SB out there one thing to look out for is if he complains about finaces, however he will say me and u are ok no need to worry there. While that is find and dandy just incase start making a plan B it is a sign and maybe he always says that but eventually I may happen. For SD\SM please if your finacials are going to change or you are unsure warn your sugar baby deffently if you guys are exclusive! There are always feeling invole and that will hurt her if one day she is excepting her allowance and you say sorry out of funds. Even if it happened all of asudden. You knew it was going to eventually happen and give her a month or two to get one her feet.

    SB: you may get comfortable and trusting ur sugar; still be cautious. Put money away because it is an NSA relationship and Sh*t does happen.

  217. Frank says:

    russia- you are the only Russian classic I know!

  218. RussianSB says:

    ‘’Nelzja vstrechatsja so svoimi gerojami – eto ljybaja znaet’’

    Date your heroes – bad idea, every girl know it 🙂

  219. RussianSB says:

    I am learning so much, first I learned about money in the morning and chairs at night, and now I know where Maldives is.
    Noway, you hear THAT from me !
    But it is citate from Russian classics.

  220. Hypnotic says:

    I got another reason… I got pregnant by my husband, lol. Actually, my husband and I were on the verge of breaking up and decided to give it a go again since i was having his baby to see if we could work things out…

    Of course, it wasn’t a lasting break with the SD. I’ve kept in touch with him and now two years later he asked me to go out with him again. He’s taking me away gambling for a night and has already started talking about an arrangement. Guess you just never no!

  221. Madridista says:

    This is a good topic. The biggest one for me in the past was definitely #1. Even my last SD who was never married at 47 started hinting at it. I don’t know why men who claim to be not interested in it later change their minds about it so easily. The good way to end things when sugar goes sour for any reason is to communicate your feelings, issues, etc. clearly and as soon as your situation or feelings change. No one likes their time wasted and communication is so underrated. At any point in an arrangement you have to know both of you are on the same page. If something changes, just speak up (talk about it, don’t text it).

    Another reason to end sugar relationship for me (and it seems obvious, but not listed) is that you have gotten everything you wanted out of it. I ended my sugar relationship because my present and past SDs have helped me reach the goals I have set for myself. I’m graduating with my last master’s in four months and will be a published author in 3 months and I promised myself a long time ago that upon achieving these things I will provide my own sugar. All of my SDs were wonderful though and have helped me so much to get where I am now. I have learned so much and will never forget what we shared. Of course, I also found love with the man of my dreams and spent the most amazing week with him!!! I’m even moving in with him in June when I start a new job in Barcelona (gotta work in case my writing career tanks). For the first time in my life, I’m serious about wanting this relationship to last forever and beyond (and to think I used to get made fun of for celeb-crushing him). That’s another reason to end sugar: when the man you used to fantasize about is falling in love with you and wants you to live with him! I really need to stop gushing, but 2013 is the best year ever so far. With him it’s like my sugar life never ended, except now white gowns and babies could enter the picture in the very near future!

  222. Frank says:

    Yes-when she cancels a date at the last minute, or cuts date short, that should tell you somethings up. Also when it takes days for her to get back to you, that’s another sign its coming to an end.

  223. Taylor Made SB says:

    When he takes you to a Super 8! lol that flame should be put out before it even has a chance to breath ( Best Friends currently on another rendezvous and thats where he’s decided to retire for the night. I told her to bail, thats gross) I see it as if you grow up accustomed to a particular lifestyle, your SD or pot SD should, if not able to enhance it ATLEAST be able to match it…

  224. Tina says:

    On the topic: I think one way to know sugar is on its way out is when one party starts making it more difficult to see the other i.e. more “commitments” start popping up during times that were initially blocked out for your get-togethers. It isn’t always a bad thing, but is a sign that it is time to move on because one or both of you have moved past what the arrangement was initially intended for.

  225. Frank says:

    I am learning so much, first I learned about money in the morning and chairs at night, and now I know where Maldives is.

    Russia-hope you make it somewhere warm soon.

  226. Tina says:

    Hey! Lookie there! When is my royalty check coming in for submitting blog topics? 😉

  227. RussianSB says:

    That’s the topic !
    It is also very good sign, if you are going with your sugardaddy to Maldives, and feel like you even don’t want do packing 🙂

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