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How to Handle Sugar Virgins


If you’ve been a Sugar Daddy, or Sugar Dating for any amount of time, you can tell a seasoned Sugar Baby from a  Sugar virgin pretty quickly. While some men would write off a Sugar newbie, here are some common “problems” and how they can be remedied.

The Problem: She doesn’t know what she’s looking for in the Sugar Bowl

Whether the case is that she isn’t’ sure what she’s looking to get out of Sugar Dating, or she thinks she does then realizes that she is mistaken, it can be quite frustrating to deal with uncertainty.  While this may not be a stand alone deal breaker for most, it can easily be remedied with settling on small servings of Sugar until she can commit to her goals. There’s no need to put too much time, or money into something that may be a waste if she decides to pursue other ventures, or decides this lifestyle isn’t for her.

The Problem: She makes you feel like a walking wallet

No Sugar Baby should make a man feel like a walking ATM. This is not only a fault of overly aggressive Sugar newbies, but of seasoned Sugar veterans that become too entitled. In many cases this is a deal breaker and time to seek out a Sugar virgin that will be more grateful and new to the wonders of a glamorous Sugar life that they have yet to experience. That definitely is a nice stroke to the ego, even if you won’t admit it.

The Problem: She is an obvious copy paste offender

Okay, so she can’t take the time to drum up a personal message or really browse your profile? More than likely you and every man in her city and surrounding cities have just received the same “Hey Handsome, your profile caught my eye” message. Throwing out that many lines, means she may be desperate and not worth your time. The best way to fix this problem is let someone else bite the copy paste bait.  Hopefully with experience she’ll learn about quality over quantity.


What are some other offenses that Sugar virgins often make?

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2,714 Responses to “How to Handle Sugar Virgins”

  1. Ben says:

    Perhaps an left this post in a random section.
    That being said these sugar sites, see.com being by far the best is largely a site, looking at the increases paying female members, replacing back page, Craig’s Personals for thier prostitution.
    It’s quite easy to pick them out. A. They are paying members. B. Most of them are 28 and older. C. They want an expensive date walking into the $400 down and we will see what happens after that.
    You women wonder why very good looking and very athletic men are choosing the 19-23 year olds you are competing with? Cause thier dumber than a box of rocks. They can’t wait for that cup of coffee and the bed for a bit of cash. They get what they want, a weeks of thier pay, and we get what we want until we find the girl we will fork out $2k/month and more baby? THATS PAY AS YOU GO AND THE YOUNG TIGHT ONES will be excited to do it. A real successful guy pulling up to meet them for the first time in an expensive vehicle and packing a good handful of hundreds, Making sure they notice the money when you pull it out to pay for thier $4 drink? ….. Most likely will be you innocent little girl for the evening. You get them in bed and see how that goes. It will take the guy with the right game 10 or so girls to get to,the right one. It’s fun getting there?

  2. zeframcochrane says:

    Is this site legitimate? Anyone (preferably male) have any positive experiences to share? I was suggested this and am entirely new to it and am a virgin. I’m just looking for something platonic at the moment. And at 20, a grown man, I didn’t wait just to lose it to some random person.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Is this site actually legitimate? I’m a virgin and at the moment only up for platonic. At 20, as a grown man, I didn’t wait just to lose it to a random person.

    • Latin SB says:

      You are a virgin? Are you a sugar baby or a sugar daddy? If you are a sugar daddy I would love to know how can a 20 y/o be a sugar daddy. Like, what are you up to? Spending your Trust funds? No, I must be getting this wrong, it cannot be. I better go to bed, I must be sleepy.

    • Anonymous says:

      If that’s the case, then why are you here?

  4. Alex-Stuart says:

    Hi I’m completely new to this and would like some advice as a sugar virgin, if anyone could send me some tips on my profile that would be great, thanks!

  5. Vanilla1337 says:

    Would love critique on my profile~

  6. Lynn says:

    I have a question as a sugar virgin, a daddy has been messaging me and we’ve started talking which very quickly led to him thinking I would drive to his house right then to be with him. Very much a dominant looking for a sub but totally caught me off guard. Is this the norm or am i right to be very put off by this aggressive behavior?

    • Vanilla1337 says:

      You are totally right to be sketched out. Don’t go. SD’s worth their sugar will not plan M&G’s at their home.

      • Anonymous says:

        Agree. Meet & greet at a public place & always text a friend where you will be, especially if meeting at their home. Text picture of their licence plate before getting into their vehicle.

    • Latin SB says:

      Totally agree with Vanilla. Serious, respectable SDs will invite you OUT to a nice date, good dinner, and have a nice conversation, not even sexually driven. That guy wanted a one night stand, to say the least.

  7. Lovebug1218 says:

    Hey all! I am completely new to the sugar world and was hoping to get some feedback on my profile. I feel like, perhaps, my “what I’m looking for” is a little bland so any advice would be appreciated.

  8. Taylor1719 says:

    Hi. I just joined, could someone look at my profile. If you can see anything on there. Hopefully you can. I’d love to hear what you have to say about it.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Hi. I just joined, could someone look at my profile. If you can see anything on there. Hopefully you can. I’d love to hear what you have to say about it.

  10. HaleyBabe♡ says:

    I’m very new to this and would appreciate some feedback on my profile!

  11. DanishBlondie15 says:

    Hi, I’ve been on SA for a while but due to moving around and a few salty starts I haven’t managed to meet anyone yet. It would be great if I could have a few tips about my profile. Thanks in advance. x

  12. Bella_ x says:

    Hey, new to this. Would love to get some feedback on my profile and tips on how what to message sugar daddies with little on their profile. 🙂 thanks

  13. ItsKarma says:

    Hey there! New to this, would love to get some comments on my profile 😉 thanks

    • DanishBlondie15 says:

      Hi, I don’t know how helpful this will be but maybe add a little bit more info on your page? So people get more of feel for the kind of person you are. 🙂

  14. Reecee says:

    New to the site can someone please help with what is need to be done next r any feedback

  15. Anonymous says:

    hello all, I am completely new to this, my friend had great success here and met a fantastic guy she is now in a committed relationship with. Any advice on my profile will be great appreciated.

  16. Princess7113 says:

    Could I please get some feedback/criticism on my profile? I am a sugar baby virgin

  17. Njbaby says:

    Hello 🙂 can anyone please take a look at my profile and give me some pointers? I’ve just started logging on more frequently. Thanks!

    • ATLSD says:

      Njbaby. Are the other girls in your pics part of the deal. If not then you need pics with only you in it.

    • CiaraJoy says:

      Hello lovely, I viewed your profile for you. First, its suggested you have pics posing alone and not with friends or family. It makes it more personable ,then he doesn’t have to guess who you are. I notice you are very educated and talented. Those are quality traits to be proud of

  18. Imani W. says:

    Started today, can someone look at my profile and give me some constructive criticism?

  19. Beachlover91 says:

    Here goes! I would appreciate any feedback please. I know I need more pictures but other than that?

  20. Sahlee E says:

    Hello, I just joined and am completely new to this kind of thing. Any constructive criticism is welcome.

  21. Anonymous says:

    how y’all doing?

  22. Sugar Baby says:

    hello world, i just joined and would like to know some feedback on my bio.. if its even up yet. sugar mommas would be highly appreciated. 😀

  23. Jess_ 1991_ says:

    Can I please have some feedback on my account ?

    • ATLSD says:

      You could add a little more to what I’m looking for. Maybe a full body pic of you standing. Otherwise fine not sure how SD are down under.

  24. Sugar Baby says:

    I am new in sugar dating and my profile is still being processed. Any tips as to not scare sugar daddies away once we start chatting because I am very assertive myself and I know what I want..

  25. Mia 777 says:

    Any constructive criticism for this newbie?

    • Anonymous says:

      Gorgeous just gorgeous but the part about you waiting until SRAS gets more advanced is strange. It’s so advanced even most doctors can’t tell. You might want to take that out if you’re not going to explain your logic.

  26. AmiraLee_ says:

    hey! I’m a new sugar baby and I love some constructive criticism on my profile.

  27. Anonymous says:

    hey there! I’m a sugar virgin and I would really appreciate some criticism on my profile (and private picture)

  28. k8Chyenne says:

    Hi, totally new to this. I would love feedback! My pictures are still pending, but how many pictures would you suggest to have? And what is to many?

    • ATLSD says:

      Your narrative has no issues. No pictures yet but unless you are a super model you will not get “high”. Looks like you have been hanging out on tumblr.

      • Anonymous says:

        People can put up whatever they feel like it. Deal with it!

      • ATLSD says:

        Of course they can put up what ever they want, she asked for feedback. I gave it. What they do with it is their decision.
        Most of these drive bys do not take my/bloggers advice and probably struggle or don’t succeed.

        “The Struggle is real” 😉

  29. Anonymous says:

    New to this! I would love feedback

  30. AliceMaria says:

    Hi, I’m new in sugar dating, can anyone give me some feedback about my profile?

    • VA Gent says:

      I find your profile rather intriguing. You haven’t got much to go on there, but it’s actually kind of appealing in its minimalism–and makes me want to know more. “…with book smell” made me laugh out loud. Good luck.

  31. Rachel says:

    Hey, thought I’d go ahead and jump on the bandwagon on asking some honest strangers to look at my profile and tell me straight what is wrong with it / what they think. Thank you 🙂

    • VA Gent says:

      The hair color jumped out, but at least you own it. I’m an older guy who has sugar dated ladies your age, and there’s always the initial “well, how’s this going to work” sensation. A fashion statement so loud and…youthful…would be hard for me to pull off going out in public. But that’s you, and you’ll likely find a guy who’s attracted to it and can rock a pretty girl like you. You’ve been on SA since 2013…any luck yet?

      • Rachel says:

        actually I made it in 2013 but then deactivated it right away haha. When I went to sign up again last night my email and stuff was already in the system so it just looks like I’ve been here awhile but it’s actually only been one day 🙂

      • Anonymous says:

        Honest strangers haha

  32. Sugar Baby says:

    Hi! I am looking for a sugar momma and would love some feedback on my profile!

    Aside from that. There’re a ton of articles on how to make the SD/female SB arrangement work, but I haven’t found as much for a SM/male SB. Any suggestions?

  33. SweetNSassyNSouthern says:

    I am VERY new to this whole concept and would like real feedback about what are realistic expectations and any feedback about my profile would be appreciated. Thanks!

  34. McKalen says:

    I’m new, and interested mostly in a sugar momma (mommy? cougar?) Can I get some feedback on my profile?

    • ATLSD says:

      Dude. There are virtually none on here. Sugar momma’s are like Unicorns. But give it a try and report back. We all would be interested to hear if you found one.
      Good luck

  35. cocoaa says:

    Feedback on my profile? im new and have been having trouble. im not so good at creating profiles. do i have to many pics and not leaving enough to catch interest?

  36. newsugarbaby says:

    hi, Im new to this website. Actually I live in south east asia. I read a lot of review about this site and mostly the stories are so creepy. But the stories mostly from USA or Europe. I never read a story about SB and SD on SA in Asia. Im pretty scared to start it since Im a virgin SB. Is it worth it to try this site? Is it true that there’s a lot of weirdos and scumbag here? Please share your story. Thank you in advance

    • Kelley90 says:

      Many weirdos.
      Many scumbags and overall creeps. I honestly wish it ended there…

      With that being said – utilize your intuition and common sense.
      Know what you want and need going into this and never sell yourself short.

      It takes time and effort that you have to be willing to invest.

      It’s worth it to you if you feel this type of relationship would benefit you in terms of where you are in your life.

      Be careful and good luck.

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s worse in Asia, never doubt that

    • Anonymous says:

      This site is not accessible in China.

  37. caligirl says:

    Ugh starting to get frustrating because so many guys treat me like a hooker. Asking me to meet them in hotel rooms for the first date… smh they should just call an escort service. Any other SB having that problem?

    • Gwen anastasia says:

      that’s why you should make an arrangement and be brutally honest to them, try to respect yourself by know how to be strict to them, and they will respect you.

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      I knowwwww! So annoying! Happens to me also. I just say “No” and suggest meeting at cafe/bar.

      Lastly I wrote on my profile that I never sleep on first date and they shuld have also STD test done. I mean, if they are sleeping with diferent partners who they do not know, there is big chance they have something nasty.
      Also I have hear that some prostitutes find extra work on this site here, so no wonder…..

  38. theothersister says:

    Honestly GIRLS if you are a new sugar baby make sure NOT to take other sugar baby /sugar daddy opinion / tutorials as fact. Meaning half of these so called friends / mentors ( talking of sugar baby) are giving you advice on how to hang yourself. Want to know why, because there’s plenty of dogs on here but not enough gentlemen TO GO AROUND. Well it’s 50/50 really, (I think) most of the girls and guys making these not so really informational videos, that they get paid for, help site that you have to pay for, events that are supposedly to help train you find the right daddy. (HA, YEAH RIGHT.) to better their life not yours. Now some might be telling you the truth but remember their experience is theirs not yours. So talk to everyone like they are good human beings, until they do something to you. IF YOU ACT LIKE A WHORE, YOU GET TREATED LIKE ONE. Be yourself, love what you got to offer. Meaning like who you are. Be classy ( MEANING WELL DRESSED, TAKE CARE YOUR HEALTH, BE HONEST,HAVE STANDARDS AND MORALS… NOT PLAY A PART) Don’t be trashy unless you’re cool with being used up by age 21. If you’re into drugs get off them now, or learn the hard way. Those girl are easy prey, also no one wants to babysit. Don’t look for a man/ women to tell you what it is you’re looking for. Use the money to better your life. Come with goals not with childish leading to nowhere dreams. KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. Do you want to be a girlfriend, back- door hoe, wife, just get school money, find mentor, or just try something new? Have an amount ready, so he knows the type of girl / arrangement you want. NEVER BEG, IF HE DOESN’T WANT YOU FINE. That includes the amount as well, if he wants you but NOT helping with area you came here to get help with move tf on. Or just become a streetwalker they’ll take anything as well. BUT OKAY, NOTHING’S FOR FREE. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO TREAT A BRAT. IF YOU DON’T OFFER WHAT HE IS LOOKING FOR, THEN DON’T ASK FOR SPIT. My brother use to say three will say no, and one will say yes. lmbo, it’s so true. Ask him question, be curious. You need to know who this guy is, feel him out. No one wants to get stuck with the self-destructing man-whore. BE FUN, BE INTERESTING, HAVE FUN, NO ONE WANTS TO BE OUT IN PUBLIC WITH THE GIRL WHO is UNCOMFORTABLE, INDECISIVE, OR AN ENTITLED BEACH. MAKE HIM HAPPY SO HE CAN MAKE YOU HAPPY.

  39. Anonymous says:

    Anyone willing to check out my profile and give feedback? I am new to this:)

  40. Candy says:

    I always hear that lots of new SBs start off by asking for large amounts of money for a date. SDs get frustrated and turned off by that (and understandably so), because they don’t know you or anything about you and can’t imagine why you would think you’re worth so much. Skip the money talk until after you’ve at least met in person for coffee. Dazzle him with your smile and conversation and then he’ll understand why you’re worth so much 🙂

  41. Naomiromulus21 says:

    I am new to this. Can anyone give me advice on it?

  42. Ana says:

    I am new to this. Can anyone give me advice on it?

  43. Sugar Baby says:

    Hi loves! Jumping on the train, here – I’m also new to this, and would be grateful for any advice you have. My photos are still pending – let me know what you think of my profile!

  44. LoraineLila says:

    I’m new to this, does anyone have some time to give some feedback?

    • RandomDude says:

      Nothing wrong with your profile. I think that’s what every SB should aim in terms of profile. It’s to the point, long enough, good pictures. If you were in my area, I would have messaged you.

      I’d remove the middle pic. Maybe add a pic of your body front facing.

  45. Sincerelyoomf says:

    Im new to this website, are there some things I should change about my profile ?

    • IHF2030 says:

      Time for some cashew and Guinness.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      You’ve packed a lot into such a little package 🙂

    • ATLSD says:

      No issues except look at the mirror not your phone. Good to see you keep your teeth nice and clean with Crest. Be very very patient and you will no problem

      • WTF says:

        hahahaha you guys are funny , @atlsd very observant with crest hahaha, @JB very funny, hope all is well with you

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @WTF All is well with me. How’s your search been going? Any luck? :-))

      • WTF says:

        @JB glad to hear that same here I am good too, I’m in ny so you know there are so many to choose from , just have to be careful of scams lol , just getting out of a 2 yr arrangement so back on here since last month, but mostly I see r p4p and I am not fan of that

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Glad all is well. Hang in there. Being in NYC is both good and bad lots to choose from but also a lot of undesirables to shift through to find the gems. Fingers crossed that you find another long term arrangement like your last (if that is your goal this time around)

  46. zolababy says:

    This is scary after seeing some of the replies on here but go on… hit me.
    What do you think of my profile?
    I have some body pics in my private pics, and I know I should have more, bu if you request I’ll give access.
    Thank you in advance.

  47. companjera says:

    I think a SBs approach depends on what kind of SD they want to attract. I realized some SDs are shallow and prefer SBs that are merely beautiful. Other SDs are looking for more than just someone pretty to be displayed by their side, someone who can engage in deeper conversations about philosophy, ideology etc. I prefer the latter..and then there’s of course all the guys who simply should just contact escorts with their ridiculous offers (because not even they’d accept that).
    What some SDs view as beginner mistakes might simply be what others view as perks.

    • Anonymous says:

      98% of the guys are going to fit into Johns or guys that just want a girl by looks only. There aren’t many who look for anything more. Hold out though maybe you’ll find someone after a year or more.

  48. sunshinegrl says:

    Feedback?? all is appreciated 🙂

  49. Erocep says:

    I’m not too great at filling out profiles!

  50. ShayeBear says:


    • Nameless says:

      shayebear welcome I love your smile your profile is perfect I wouldn’t change a thing good luck in your search and welcome to the site

      • Leight says:

        Your profile is great. I would suggest one more picture that shows a little more of you. If you were in my area I would definitely send you a message. A girl that games would be right up my alley. Good luck in your search.

      • Anonymous says:

        And here we have another xbox loser parading as a SD

    • Southern SD says:

      you have had some of those same photos for almost 5 years now. Do you think maybe you should update them once in a while? You are just looking for validation on this site, and you give the serious SBs a bad name.

  51. Anonymous says:

    Anyone willing to leave feedback?

  52. MsTay says:

    Hi there !!! I would greatly appreciate some feedback on my page. Super new to this world

  53. Sugar Baby says:

    G’day g’day
    Jst wanted to say
    More than jst a lay
    Im skilled nd luv to play
    I’ll make ur day
    U’ll rarely hear nay
    I wont talk of pay
    Let’s go to the baby
    We’ll sail away
    Content with our day
    Sounds good ay….

  54. Sugar Baby says:

    Hey guys, I’m new here. Do I need more info about myself?

  55. evette90 says:

    Hey ladies and Gents. Can you View my profile and give me some feedback plz. thanks. good luck to all 🙂

  56. the.angel says:


    I got a few offers, but i’d like more. I’d love to get your feedback on my page, and how to approach a sugar daddy. I always view profiles, but sometimes, they don’t give enough information on what they’re like, so there’s nothing to really point out in the initial message. Thanks in advance 🙂

  57. ForgedbyFire says:

    So im 100% new to this as a SD. Hows the profile look? I do have the financial means to get into this, but don’t want it to feel like I’m just paying by the hour. I that a realistic expectation, or will it always feel synthetic?

    • ATLSD says:

      Well Dude you are too young to be a SD. You would fall in the classification of Generous boyfriend. If this is real change your horrible pictures.

      • Anonymous says:

        Especially the one where you look like chaz bono

      • ForgedbyFire says:

        Fair enough, What kind of pictures are a better choice?

        I do really have the means to make it work so it is real. Is there anything wrong with generous boyfriend?

      • ATLSD says:

        Nothing wrong with a GB. We have had a few here.
        You need s pic with dressed up. Suit and tie or sport coat. Girls are looking to wined and dined.

  58. Sugarlushsugar says:

    Hi! I am so to say sugar virgin. I have not fond my SD yet. I am an ordinary woman. No experience with sugar, only with very generous ex-boyfriends.
    By no means I want o make a man feel that he is a walking wallet, but what I experienced with the messages and my first and only meeting is that men treat me like a body…or a prostitute, yet they do not like to talk about money, agreement, allowance.

    The man who I met made me feel so bad about my self after I asked him about money, that I can not describe it. I told him before that I do expect an allowance, so he knew beforehand. Now he says he thinks I “seem something very bad”.
    I had a horrible breakup with a man I loved very much, and that is the reason I am here. I do not think I can handle another hearbroke again. I am over it but I am not willing to put all my love and effort to a relationship to be left without nothing when he decides to leave. Yes, I want money, to invest in me and my future.
    And now I am a bad person for aserting myself.
    I have the feeling that this webpage is for escorts, who are professionals and know when and how to ask money, and for one night stands….and that the men here are sociopaths….
    Sorry for the harsh ending. But that is how I feel right now.
    Lots of love!

    • Fundude says:

      There is an “arrangement” site not a “love” site.

      I think Match.com or POF is better for you

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Of course, let me correct myself – Lots of sugar!

        What botherd me wad exactly that this is not a love site. He knew I am expecting agreement and money. Yet, he is making me feel bad about being sexual (we made out) and asking for money.

      • Candy says:

        An SD who knows what they are doing would never make you ask for money. He should always offer it without you asking.

      • TVC15 says:


        You met a scammer looking for free sex, not a sugar daddy. There are lots of men like that on this website, so be careful, and don’t let them make you feel bad. They are the ones who should feel bad.

      • Anonymous says:

        Do you even realize what you’re saying? That prostituting yourself is ok but a guy trying not to pay a prostitute is worse? hahahahahaha hilarious

      • TVC15 says:

        Do you even realize what you’re saying? That lying to and ripping off a woman is OK, but it’s wrong for her to try to make a straightforward arrangement? hahahahahaha hilarious

    • Big Secret says:

      Well you brought up quite a few points here, so let’s separate them out and address them.

      First TVC15 is correct, you ran into a pretender, otherwise known as a scrub or salt in this world. Some are playing a game to see how far they can push before you bolt. Some unfortunately have a mental disorder, these are the ones that can become dangerous if you challenge there delusions. It sounds like you ran into the later. The game player just moves on to the next target. The ICD 10 301.81 Narcissistic personality disorder, Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that’s vulnerable to the slightest criticism, these types of personality can become violent if challenged and will try to hurt you anyway possible and by cutting you down and acting like you are the one in the wrong that is the actions he displayed. Be glad you are safe, and smart enough that you met him in public.

      Now, on to the walking wallet comment. Candy is correct, but even more so, it has only been over the last few generations that the defined roles between men and women have been so blurred. 50 years ago, it was expected, that the man provided the financial portion of any “date” and going Dutch was only for “friends”. More of your SD are older and grew up with this style of living. There are a few expectations that are a litter harder in any relationship to address, finances is one of them, the others may include intimacy, birth control, and protection from STDs. NO one, with any amount of self-worth will demean you for addressing these subjects.

      You have not had closure with your X, you think you are “over it” but it come through loud and clear that you are still holding onto the hurt. I am not too sure why, but before you can move forward without it affecting your future relations, you will need closure. Grab a couple of your girlfriends, go out and celebrate the brake up, talk about the good it will do for you and release the past. Celebrate it, not morn it. And yes, that work.

      Pease define ordinary or normal, there is no such thing, you are one of a kind; 8 billion people on the planet and no two of us are alike. Learn who you are and that is what you have to offer, and nobody can make you feel bad for that unless you let them.

      I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors, and I hope you find who you are looking for. You have a lot to offer the right person, just don’t sacrifice yourself for it.

  59. Dariam18 says:

    Oh sorry I didn’t read the article. I thought about actual virginity. I am so stupid. Never mind. I never contact a person. I usually let them contact me. I am just searching here, never had an arrangement before because I am still in high school and studying.

    • Fundude says:

      I don’t think this website is for you.

      Platonic SBs get low allowances mostly, especially if they want a “younger” guy

  60. Dariam18 says:

    I think I am one of those super virgin girl. Always liked older guys.
    As long as everyone is asking for advice on their profile.
    What can I change more?

  61. Candy says:

    The most valuable tip for Sugar Virgins: Stay true to yourself and never compromise your own values. withsomesugarontop.com

  62. CASY says:


    • ATLSD says:

      Start with turning off Caps lock. Seriously.

      • CASY says:

        only advice you have is being a dick thanks ATLSD

      • Anonymous says:

        This little bitch won’t last long on this site with an attitude like that. Look idiot using caps online is considered shouting. He gave you some good advice since you were acting so damn ignorant. You didn’t have to turn into a bitch towards him.

      • Anonymous says:

        Wait a minute. What am I saying? You didn’t turn into a bitch. It’s obvious by your pic that you’re a bitch 24/7.

      • ATLSD says:

        Casy I’ll sell you vowel so you can buy a clue. Every GUy on SA that went to your profile and saw your profile with all CAPS on “nexted you”. And the fact that you didn’t even realize that, pretty much disqualifies you for being a a SB.
        Your welcome.

  63. IHF2030 says:

    Wow, so you all are back to offering profile advice? Time for some cashew and Guinness.

  64. A Nonnymouse says:

    For those looking for serious profile advice:

    Most of the serious posters have moved to reddit.

  65. Sugar Baby says:

    I would love advice about how to make a better profile! New to this!

  66. Anonymous says:

    I’m totally new to this as well, I would love some feedback on my profile!

  67. Collegewoman21 says:

    Hi I’m so new to this I will love some advice, how can i make my profile better

  68. Charlotte says:

    Hello everyone, this looks like the place to be asking for advice, so I was hoping someone could give me feedback on my profile. I value internet privacy (hence no public photos), and am not looking for an allowance. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated 🙂

    • SugarD says:


      No allowance ? Why not join another dating site ? You definitely need a picture to attract most men . There is so much competition that many guys will screen out “no Pics”

  69. MissDoll96 says:

    Hey guys and girls, can someone help me please?!
    I am a ‘sugar virgin’… are your ‘private pictures’ meant to be sexy?
    because mine have only been my face… and i’ve only just clicked on lol. HELP

    • Nameless says:

      MissDoll96 your profile and pics look fine I’m not familiar with your area. I don’t know if it will be easy or hard to find an SD there or not I wish you success and welcome to the site

    • Blake says:

      They don’t have to be sexy…….

    • Dazed-SD says:

      @missdoll, your pictures are good enough, the private ones do not have to be sexy so to speak.
      I think the biggest problem is 2 things, you’re a platonic, smoker
      those 2 things generally don’t do well.

    • SugarD says:

      Hi @Doll

      Your profile is OK and you are a cutie . I like to see Private photos that are racier than public-otherwise why have them ?

      Platonic won’t fly for most of us ,so you will struggle to attract many serious SDs . One thing-you leave the door open for intimacy if you are feeling it . That is good ,but do not expect to be paid an allowance while you are figuring that out . Maybe leave that disclaimer out and tell the Pot SD in email convos if it gets that far . Also omit that stupid disclaimer at the bottom . If people steal your pics they will in spite of the warning. You don’t want negatives in your narrative . .

  70. Dusty_J says:

    Hey, newbie here, I was wondering if I could get some advice for my profile, I have a couple guys look at my profile but I never hear from anyone. Did I word something wrong?

    • Nameless says:

      your pictures are unattractive find some better ones that should help and change your weight to full overweight most guys don’t like overweight ladies but some do good luck in your search

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No amount of picture changes will help… Nameless is right you are in the wrong body category and there aren’t many men looking for overweight. But there are some who do. When thou select the wrong category you automatically eliminate yourself. You won’t come up in their searches. Plus you have negative attitude about your weight. A man Who is into a BBW is probably going to want one who’s comfortable in her own skin and confident. Try to appeal against o the guys who will appreciate you for how you are. No amount of telling people you’re trying to lose weight is going to convince a guy who’s not into bigger women into giving you an allowance while you work on becoming skinny because there are already thousands of women on This site who already are.

  71. SnowHaze says:

    Any feedback about my profile? Goods, bads? Thankyou!

    • Anon says:

      You ask for substantial lifestyle and you imply that you won’t sleep with anyone. Can’t see that working.
      Also you are clearly very attractive but the close up face shots don’t do you any favours,have more taken by someone else/use timer.
      And change your body type to ‘fit’, it’s better than average and this is used as a search option.

    • SugarD says:

      Two things for me .

      -substantial is a nonstarter. There are boatloads of attractive women who are in the much lower ask range.
      -pole dancing is a neg for me . It appears too strip club-ish for me. I would prefer dance or fitness instructor and an appropriate pic showing off your awesome bod.

  72. Anonymous says:

    Hey everyone!
    Newbie alert, I’m interested to hear people’s thoughts about my profile (is it good, interesting, what to include and what to discard) Thanks! x

  73. delicateflower says:

    Hello , I’m also looking for some feedback re: my profile. Yes, I know I’m older & larger. Not the typical sb at all ! BUT, I’ve dated both older/younger and both have suggested that I come here. It’s because of my age, that I’m available more at this stage of life, to travel, meet and enjoy life experiences with a like minded man. Curious to hear back 🙂

  74. Powitsh says:

    Hi hi, fellow SA’ers!

    I’d absolutely love some feedback on my profile!
    Constructive criticism and helpful advice is MUCH appreciated!


  75. Izy T says:

    Hi, anyone willing to read my profile and give honest feedback?

  76. Miicky96 says:

    Hi, some feedback on my profile would be great, thank you!

    • Nameless says:

      Miicky96 your profile looks fine you’re new so give it some time to work also if you see some SD that interests you message him

    • Dazed-SD says:

      @Miicky, The biggest problem women have hear is they don’t paint a picture of what it would be like to hang out with you. Tell us something about you and also what’s in it for us, but don’t be too long winded.
      Now that being said, the only problem I can imagine is your location.
      I don’t know much about the area, only been there once, but just a guess. Because your pictures are adorable, you are so cute, oh and what some of the other SD’s are advising,, if you see a profile you like, write to him, don’t be shy or wait for SD’s to write to you.

  77. Meliii 760 says:

    please disregard that last message! Lol but would you guys be willing to look over my profile and give me feedback! I’d appreciate the advice, thank you!

    • Dazed-SD says:

      @Meliii,,nothing wrong with it at all. Love the pictures, because you show a few different sides of you. Great Job. The only potential problem I see might be your age. So be patient, and write SD’s that interest you.

    • ATLSD says:

      Good profile. Nothing to change. If you were here I would be messaging you.

  78. Meliii760 says:

    I’m new to the sugar bowl, I would love receiving some feedback of what you guys think of my profile! Advice on what I should add, remove or change would be helpful 🙂 thank you!

  79. Sierra Alex says:

    I’m fairly new to this. Would love it if you could look over my profile and give suggestions on what I could correct. Thank you in advanced!

    • Powitsh says:

      I’m fairly new as well, but I checked your profile, and I have to say, you are absolutely STUNNING, Sierra! Beautiful! I hope you find yourself a wonderful SD! And I hope you paint many wonderful pieces this year!

    • Dazed-SD says:

      @Sierra, oh my goodness are you cute. So use that to your advantage. Put in a couple more pictures of that beautiful smile and face but standing up (say) in that blue dress you’re wearing. Your profile writing is good enough.

  80. Rihh says:

    Im new to this sugar bowl, could you please look over my profile and give me feedback on what i might need to change?

  81. Chanel B says:

    Hi Im New to this, I’d like if someone could look on my profile an give me some feedback on how to make it better.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hi Chanel. Although your profile seems fine, your biggest challenge is going to be that most SD’s are looking for other ethnicities, mainly white, hispanic or asian. Good luck.

      • ATLSD says:

        @anon she looks Hispanic to me. She’s probably Cuban
        Chanel your profile pic has a mop in it. Seriously you couldn’t find a better picture.
        Also, I’m reading your profile that you are looking for platonic. If you are you just eliminated 99.8% of the SD.

      • Leight says:

        ATLSD has the best comments on here. Follow all his advice

  82. Anonymous says:

    HI I’m Chanel I’ve never had a SD can I get some feedback on my profile and what I can do to make it better.

  83. Jade181818 says:

    Hi would you mind taking a look at my profile and let me know what you think? Thanks!

  84. BostonM says:

    I’d love some advice on attracting more serious SDs and feedback on my profile! I haven’t had much luck in the sugar bowl thus far.

    • Nameless says:

      BostonM they’re is not much you can do your profile is fine except your looking for platonic this is not the norm on this site no one says you have to have intimacy but if you don’t offer it you will find it difficult to find an arrangement I would suggest you rethink what you want out this lifestyle and what you’re prepared to bring to the table maybe this lifestyle is not for you but whatever your decision good luck to you and I hope you find success

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you’re great, and will definitely have success!

  85. Anonymous says:

    I’d love some advice/constructive criticism! I haven’t had much luck thus far in the sugar bowl.

  86. anyone willing to read my profile and give honest feedback?

    • Nameless says:

      hi wilderness woman you have a nice profile but the only problem I can see is your asking for someone local I’m not familiar with your area but I think your pool of sd is small there other than that your profile looks fine good luck in your search

  87. Anonymous says:

    anyone willing to help me out and look at my profile and give me tips. I would much appreciate it. 🙂

  88. Venus P says:

    Hi elaine ! can you look at my profile as well ? thanks so much !

    • VA Gent says:

      Nice text, confident, smart, engaging and sensual–all things I look for in an SB. I’m not a big fan of the bathroom mirror selfie (anyone’s). Maybe something a little more organic?

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      She, and many of the serious bloggers have headed off to reddit. See elaine’s link below.

      This blog isn’t moderated, and there’s lots of fakes allowed here spouting nonsense.

  89. elaine says:

    For those seeking info and advice, instead of insults and nonsens, go to:


    • Jordani94 says:

      Hi Elaine, would love it if you could have a quick look at my profile and give me some feedback?
      Thank you in advance!

      • VA Gent says:

        Your attractive, seem smart and fun. The ‘intelligent and good company’ and ‘opportunity to try new things’ are especially appealing to me. It does seem, though, like you ARE in this for some fiscal help, so rather than saying ‘don’t throw money at me’, maybe say something to the effect of ‘I’d prefer this not to feel transactional, but I would appreciate help from the right gentleman.’ My two cents… Good luck!

    • Anonymous says:

      Hi elaine, can you critic my profile please. Thanks!

  90. Jade181818 says:

    Hi I’m also new. Can . can you look at my profile? Thank you!

    • VA Gent says:

      Pretty straight forward. Forgive me for saying so, but not sure I’m seeing something worthy of a ‘Moderate’ ($5k/mo.) allowance. Maybe just me, though. Another pic in more formal attire?

    • Rick says:

      It’s OK, but it doesn’t make me feel like you’d be a great SB. And a better picture wouldn’t hurt

  91. LolaW says:

    I am a Sugar Virgin, interested in constructive criticism on my page as well.
    Thanks in advance!

  92. _BrownSugar_ says:

    Can you take a look at my profile as well?

  93. RissaRooo says:

    I too am going to join this comment bandwagon and ask anyone for some constructive criticism/advice on my profile! I am an amateur Sugar Baby, some experience but haven’t gone full throttle quite yet. Thank you!

    • elaine says:

      Hi Rissa,

      Nice profile, nice pics, I would change my profile pic though, you have more captivating ones.
      Don’t wait till pot’s message you, better to contact them yourself.

      “Driven. You have a hard work ethic” to me looks like they are having to apply for a job
      They are not.
      It’s YOU the one applying for a “job”. 🙂


      • RissaRooo says:

        Thank you Elaine! I appreciate that 🙂 Will definitely take your advice.

      • Natalie says:

        I agree, Elaine. You do kind of approach it as a blind job interview, but you have to ever so subtly mask that you’re actually applying. It’s a matter of nuancing the description of yourself in the profile.

      • Leight says:

        I agree with Elaine on the pictures. The 2nd to last one is a real winner. Bonus points for actually have a lengthy, coherent, well written bio.

  94. Colleencocobongo says:

    I would love some advice on my profile! I’m new to the sugar bowl and just want to make sure I’m going in the right direction 🙂

    • elaine says:


      Your profile is ok’ish.
      Add more about what you offer to a pot. SD.
      It’s about him on this site.

      Crop your GF from your pictures.
      It’s confusing for pot’s and not right to the pictured person. they might not want their faces on a sugarsite.


    • ATLSD says:

      @coco looks like you took Elaine’s advice. Looks good, I would hit you up if you were in my city.

  95. Rhiann says:

    Can you look at my profile please?

  96. Natasha says:

    Hi everyone i’m following suit, please can you guys have a look at my profile and offer me some advice .xx thank you

  97. Anonymous says:

    would love some advice on my profile! i haven’t had much luck on the site

  98. Lucia Heather says:

    I had some advice and made the adjustments! Does my profile look better now? Any feedback is welcome.

    • elaine says:

      I think the other face pic might draw more attention as profile pic, the rest of your profile looks ok if you ask me.

      Succes! 🙂

  99. Zach says:

    “This reaction again emphasizes why a lot of (non racist) SDs are hestitant to date black women…

    Not because they find them physically unattractive, but because they are scared of exactly this kind of drama attitude.”

    So true. Would really like to have a black SB but can’t handle the bad attitude and racism they have against “whites” (all nonblack people). Would even like to have a black girlfriend honestly instead of just SB but again same problem.

    • KatePH says:

      I agree with that from the female side too. I’m sure it’s different in other places, but race relations are terrible in my area. For example, I have black friends, but no one is inviting me to dinner. And I have had bad experiences going with them to hang out with all of their friends, where I am the only white person there.

      I’m not complaining, just sharing experience.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “And I have had bad experiences going with them to hang out with all of their friends”

        Bad idea. I’m black and I would never do it. I always politely decline. One on one… yes, a group… no thank you

    • Sexy Rae doll says:

      You can’t put us all in one category, that is not fair. We are not all the same. I am a fun, educated funny and loving person.

      • elaine says:

        I think the other face pic might draw more attention as profile pic, the rest of your profile looks ok if you ask me.

        Succes! 🙂

      • elaine says:

        Sorry @Rae, the above post was for @Lucia!

        I agree it is not fair to put all black women in one category.
        Problem is that some are so loud and aggressive, the “R” word always ready at the tip of their tongue when things don’t go as they wish for.
        Those ruin it for the rest and keep the prejudice/clichè alive.

      • Anonymous says:

        Agreed! People need to remember that everyone is not the same; all whites aren’t racist, nor do all blacks hate all whites/nonblack people or think they’re all racist.
        “Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.”

      • youngViola says:

        Oops! Sorry- that last Anon was me. 🙂

  100. K says:


    I don’t know if anyone remembers but I use to be active on the blog in 2009 as AsianSB. However, I still am a sugar virgin as there were very little SDs in my old location. Would anyone mind helping me looking over my profile? I am trying to play ball in the new sugar bowl of SF but seem to have a bit of trouble.

    • Nameless says:

      do you have a link to your profile?

      • K says:

        Thanks Nameless,

        I’ve logged in but I don’t know why the icon doesn’t link. Here is the link, member/ef0fb961/view

    • Dazed-SD says:

      @K,,,So I looked at your profile. Your pictures are cute, but add a couple more,with that cute smile like the outdoors one. Your profile
      writing is not very good. You need to paint a picture for potential SD’s to want to contact you. All I read in yours is what you want, what’s in it for the SD’s ? That I get to pay to hang out with a Nerd ? or Pay for a Nerd to Tutor you ?

  101. cobrownsugar says:

    I would love some constructive cristisism on my profile! Thank you all for the wonderful advice!

    • Dazed-SD says:

      @cobrownsugar, it’s not to bad. Maybe, just maybe a little less about meeting your expectations and a little more about meeting the SD’s. All in all though not bad. Your pictures may need a little work though, all of them are very close up shots of your face and hair. You say you have a tall slender body, maybe show that off a little. Nothing crazy or nude but say in a skirt or long evening dress.

  102. KatePH says:

    Hi regulars,

    I’m new, my profile has been live for a week. Prior to that, I did a lot of reading and research and I’ve been creeping on this (sometimes helpful, sometimes non-sensical) blog for a while. 🙂

    1) I want to thank anyone on here that has given helpful information. I also want to thank the jerks because that commentary helps me learn too.

    2) Elaine, you’re fabulous.

    3) If some of you want to take a minute and critique yet ANOTHER profile, I would appreciate it.

    I am getting emails and have had some good conversations, and had 2 POTs interested, after weeding. One I got out of and the other, we have been talking on the phone and are going to arrange a meet soon.

    So, I think I’m doing ok. The problem is that there are a lot of guys in my area who are not SD material because they don’t have the means. I also get messages from men who obviously don’t want an real arrangement.

    So my main problem here, if anyone could help, is there something in my profile that is attracting those two types? Or is that just something that is going to happen no matter what?

    But also I’m looking for a good proofread.

    And can someone tell me what a wink is?


    • KatePH says:

      Oh, and I know there are problems with my pictures, but those are the most recent ones I have (January), and the only full body shot I have. I don’t put myself in front of cameras much….I need to get some new ones.

  103. Kamali says:

    I would love some constructive cristisism on my profile! Thank you all for the wonderful advice!

  104. sugardust says:

    I’m going to jump on the bandwagon and ask for any opinions/critiques of my profile. I’m new to this and want to avoid some of the sugar virgin pitfalls. Any advice helps! Thanks!!

    • Nameless says:

      Sugardust welcome you have been on the site for awhile no luck so far? your profile looks ok I would change your weight from average to slim your not fat I would message men that are of interest to you maybe I’m missing something but I can’t see why an attractive lady like you shouldn’t do well here good luck in your search take care

      • sugardust says:

        Hi there! Thanks so much for your feedback. I was on this site for about a week just under a year ago. Due to several factors, I had to suspend use of my account. Finally, I am ready and able to delve back into the website. I have messaged a few men on here. Nothing has actually progressed further than pleasantries though. Maybe I need to be a bit more aggressive and take the reigns! Thanks again.

      • Nameless says:

        Sugardust thank you yes don’t be shy go after what you want this is not a regular dating site good luck and wish you success

    • SugarD says:

      You are lovely and your sentiment sounds perfect for a guy who wants an emotional connection . There are 2 things that might be turning off some SDs: 1) the request to have a connection .Some guys might perceive that a needy ,but I wouldn’t change a thing . If I were single I would love a girl just like you .
      2) Moderate lifestyle expectation -might be higher than some guys can or want to pay. I would change yours to Negotiable. At least you will get more activity and you can filter after meeting more SDs .

      • Anonymous says:

        Trying to bargain huh?

      • SugarD says:

        Oh Yeah ! That’s what it is all about . @SSSD might offer her $10 K if she is gene pool materiel,while I might offer $1000. She would probably take my deal ,but who knows ? If she were to stick to the $3-5000K she would miss out on wonderful me . LOL

      • sugardust says:

        Hey there SugarD. Thanks so much for replying.
        One thing I will clarify is that a connection for me does not necessarily mean anything that requires constant attention or maintenance. I only mean that if I am going to become physical with a guy, I wouldn’t do it if I wasn’t attracted to them. Otherwise I may as well be a hooker. I won’t sleep with just anyone who offers the right amount.

        Also, I agree wholeheartedly with changing my expectations to negotiable. That was an oversight on my part. I forgot how much moderate actually meant.

      • SugarD says:

        You’ll do fine @Sugardust. Makes sense. You should stick to what you want. SDs will need fairly quick feedback from you or they will move on . But I think most of us know from the 1st meet that we are attracted romantically -or not .

    • elaine says:

      Nice profile!

      I don’t know the Canadian sugarbowl, but I think you should have no trouble to find a nice SD!


    • VA Gent says:

      Damn good profile at this point!

  105. Aubrey says:

    would love some advice on my profile! i haven’t had much luck on the site

    • Nameless says:

      hi, Aubrey, your profile looks ok except the part of what I’m looking for putting down that you don’t have a lot of free time because you’re busy with work and school is going to get a lot of sugar daddy to not consider you I would remove that part and just explain your situation when you’re contacted also don’t wait for men to contact you send messages to those that interest yourself good luck in your search

    • SugarD says:

      You are a beautiful girl and the profile is OKish. I would change these things:
      1) looking to meet someone to help pay the bills. Cut this out .This sounds too monetary and goes without saying anyway.
      2) No drama please! I’m super busy with school and work so don’t have a ton of free time. Cut this. Who wants drama ? Say something positive about what you are going to do make your Daddy happy .

  106. Jadeyb96 says:

    I’m going to join in and ask if anyone could take a look at my profile? I’ve not had much luck so far. I thought I had cracked it but after 2 weeks of being in contact with a sugar daddy he stopped any replies. Any way for me to improve would be great!

    • elaine says:

      It looks ok to me!

      Maybe reach out more yourself and contact SD profiles you find attractive!

      And don’t worry too much about “poofers” , that seems to be inherent here.
      Some people just lack the class to tell you they are going to move on because they don’t think there is a match.
      I know it is disturbing because it feels like someone throwing the telephone in the middle of a conversation. Don’t even be surprised if they re-contact you after 3 weeks, or 3 months, or even 3 years.

      Don’t start to doubt yourself for it, just move on and be patient. 🙂

    • VA Gent says:

      You make it sound as if you’d travel somewhere as long as you’re reimbursed… If so, don’t. He should travel to you for an initial meet and greet. If you (carefully) decide to travel to him, he should pay for it up front.

    • Dan says:

      Another thing that i would suggest is changing your pictures a bit. To me 3 are enough:
      1) full body
      2) half body
      3) face.
      If you put up 5 pictures and all are about the same. It almost looks as if you just put one.
      “No offence” In your case all your pictures are almost the same.
      They kind of make me feel like “skip to the next”.

  107. dulcedela says:

    Tough crowd but I love the honest feedback ha! Since I am not having too much luck on here, I’ll also ask that my profile be critiqued. Thanks in advance!

    • elaine says:

      Don’t see anything wrong in your profile or your pics.

      Have you tried to reach out to Pot’s yourself?
      Don’t wait for them to message you, there is loads of young and attractive SBs in your area to compete with, so if you just wait for pot SDs to fill your inbox, it might not gonna happen.

      Search profiles you find attractive and send them a nice and PERSONAL message, based upon what you have read in their profile.
      No, not “Hi”! 😉


    • Nameless says:

      delcedela your profile looks ok except the what I’m looking for it states what you don’t want but nothing you can bring to the arrangement can you travel are you looking long term or short term are you flexible with your time all these things can make it easier for an SD to decide whether to pursue you or not good luck in your search and all the best

    • SugarD says:

      Guapa ! I’d call you if we were close to each other.

  108. I would very much appreciate if someone reviewed my profile since I’m new to the sugar world

    • Blake says:

      Read below LOL

      • Dazed-SD says:

        @blake,,, click on her name and it will take you to her profile

      • elaine says:

        Start with taking that cow ring out of your nose.
        You’re a pretty girl, you cannot really think this ironwork will make you even prettier?
        Or that a wealthy businessman is going to take you to a quality restaurant like this?

        Hmmmm, afraid that ain’t gonna happen….

        Your profile isn’t bad, just put some nice pictures without the nose ring and see what happens.


      • Blake says:

        Now it will on this post but it wouldn’t below because she didn’t log in

    • ATLSD says:

      It looks like you made some updates. But your “What I am looking for” is terrible. You state that you’re not a gold digging chick but then go onto say you “want to be spoiled and treated like a princess”. That my dear is the definition of a gold digging chick. Delete that whole section and start over.
      Also, Atlanta has one on the highest ratios of SB to SD. It’s like 12:1 and half are AA. Which means you are competing with 6000 AA SB in the greater Atlanta area. Turn it up a notch.

  109. Southern Belle13 says:

    I would very much appreciate if someone reviewed my profile since I’m new to the sugar world

  110. Smilessss___ says:

    Might as well hop aboard the “review my profile” train. I am a newbie, however one of my good friends has a page and she’s been guiding me for the most part. But I don’t think what works for her is working for me. Some advice would be very appreciated.

    • Nameless says:

      smilessss I loved your smile that always gets my attention your profile is short and to the point also good the only thing I would suggest changing is the what I’m looking for part don’t waste my time sounds hostile a true sugar daddy knows this already and those words won’t deter a time waster good luck in your search and welcome to the site

    • elaine says:

      Good picture, negative and too short the text.

      It is about the SD here, so make a profile text that makes him want to know you, otherwise you will be nexted in a second.

      The site is full of attractive 20 somethings, so you need to stand out in a positive way.

  111. Ri Mari says:

    I’m new. Can someone look over my profile?

  112. FieryAries3 says:

    I would very much appreciate it if someone were to review my profile and photos.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Overall a well written profile. You use I a bit to much find another way to phrase the sentences. Also one grammatical error. “You will not be made to fill as an ATM.” it should be feel not fill. I would remove the selfie picture and the one with you in the pleated dress not very flattering the other one are fine.

  113. elaine says:


    “If a young pretty girl can’t ask for high I wonder who can.”

    A CEO of a medium company maybe?
    A CFO?
    A doctor?
    Other professional people with a degree, carrying a lot of responsability in their job?
    Working 50 hours a week 50 weeks per year?

    Those are the people that make 120k after taxes per year.
    Not young, pretty girls for nothing else as being pretty and show up in time.
    That is….they can always ASK of course….

    I am sure the shrewd businessmen/millionaires here will line up to throw that money at her!

    But wait!
    …..Maybe they became that rich because they are clever?
    And clever men pay this kind of salaries to other clever people for making them even richer!

    • SugarD says:

      +1 @Elaine

      It’s nice to see a little touch of realism to bring the indulged back to Earth. Just because you are young and attractive doesn’t mean you will command a $120,000 salary for being –well –you .

  114. NalaK says:

    I suppose since we’re so charitably giving profile critiques away to the sugar virgins… 🙂 I’ll stand in line.

    • elaine says:

      Nicely written profile, but hey! what else to expect from a poetry teacher? 😉

      Not sure how big is the market for black “pink-haired Disney princesses” though….

      • NalaK says:

        You’d be surprised.
        And no worries, I’ll excuse your casual racism, love. Take care.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        How was that racist? Jesus christ it’s getting old having people casually throw tbat word around like it’s the equivalent of hello…

      • elaine says:

        This reaction again emphasizes why a lot of (non racist) SDs are hestitant to date black women…

        Not because they find them physically unattractive, but because they are scared of exactly this kind of drama attitude.

        PS. I equally ask myself how big is the market for white “pink-haired Disney princesses”
        Does that make me a Disnist now? 😉

      • Catcher 22 says:

        +1. I abhor casual usage of the R word almost as much as ANY usage of the N word.

      • Catcher 22 says:

        I should have made it clear. My prior comment was in response to @Jay’s comment.

  115. Megan says:

    Ya’ll it is so hard out here to find men who are really serious. I’m just stressed over this. Seriously all I keep meeting are average joes who just want a quickie in a hotel. No I’m not ugly. No I’m not cheap looking. It’s just so awful. Just venting here. Really have nowhere else to put it, sorry. I feel like I came here with a good mindset, willing to work for whatever someone gave me, willing to move my life around someone else’s schedule but nobody wants that. All they want is one time sex. It makes me feel like everybody just thinks we’re hookers? I’m just ugh, sorry but a little stressed over this.

    • SugarD says:

      Hang in there and keep interviewing. You’ll eventually meet the right guy . Maybe mention to each Pot before the M&G that you are looking for a long term SD and not a one Pop and Drop. And consider a longer period of communication where you can get to know him a little better .

    • elaine says:

      Start selecting and reaching out to Pot’s of your liking, instead of waiting to be contacted by Pot’s who are after one time sex.

      You can learn a lot of their intentions in their profiles, if you are a good reader.

  116. Freckles516 says:

    Hello! I am a sugar virgin, super new to this but very excited! This was a wonderful blog, thank you for sharing! My favorite part was when you addressed the No Sugar Baby should make a man feel like a walking ATM. This is not only a fault of overly aggressive Sugar newbies, but of seasoned Sugar veterans that become too entitled. In many cases this is a deal breaker and time to seek out a Sugar virgin that will be more grateful and new to the wonders of a glamorous Sugar life that they have yet to experience. That definitely is a nice stroke to the ego, even if you won’t admit it. ” I’m anxious to meet a sugar daddy ready to show me the wonders of a glamorous sugar life! If anyone is up for sharing tips and advice it would mean a lot! Thank you!

    oops forgot to log in please disregard the anonymous comment below

    • Bruce Wayne says:

      Hi Freckles — welcome to the blog and I like your profile. Just curious (and more of a poll and totally not judging) are you really looking for more than $10,000 a month from your SD? (the high expectation means more than $10k)

      • Anonymous says:

        Hi Bruce! Hahaha no I don’t. I honestly thought when it was asking my expectations I didn’t know it was about financial expectations, I thought high expectations from the site and its success hahaha so thank you for inquiring I should probably fix that haha.

      • VA Gent says:

        Um…yeah…asking for High, but then saying not to expect you to drop everything for a trip to Cancun? Just feels like an unrealistic disconnect. Maybe too many pics there, too. You’re a lovely lady, though.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        @Freckles – I have found a large percentage of SBs don’t look at the meaning of those ranges. I suspected you weren’t looking for “High” when you said you have your own money. I think if you put a reasonable allowance range, you will find someone – best wishes!

      • SugarD says:

        Whew! I was ready to write you off as another overindulged spoiled brat . Good show !

        Lose the Cap paragraph under “What I’m looking for” where you harangue potential whore mongers. We get it that you are not seeking those kind of guys. It won’t keep them from trying and it looks aggressive unnecessarily.

      • Anonymous says:

        If a young pretty girl can’t ask for high I wonder who can.

      • Anonymous says:

        Whew! I was ready to write you off as another overindulged spoiled brat . Good show !

        I always thought of you as an unreasonable but entertaining man, now I think you’re just pityful.

      • SugarD says:

        Aww -Asking High is a pretty indulgent reach dontcha think ? Maybe you are exceptional yourself but not many are . Stay with me Baby !

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        I would give Jessica Alba $10k a month for a few months, but I am guessing she isn’t in the market for an SD.

      • SugarD says:

        LOL me too ! I suspect that after a while we would discover that they are girls just like every other that we have slept with . Just a little bit (OK -a lot!) prettier but with the same neuroses and foibles . In the end , I’m happy with my $1000 girls who have the same equipment and in the low light I can’t tell the difference between J Alba and SB # 1 .

      • Anonymous says:

        Because an arrangement=sexy time SugarD. Just come out and blatantly admit it that you’re using this as means of getting an escort for cheaper and one who hasn’t gone all slutty yet. I wonder what’s in it for your sbs?

      • anonymous1 says:

        Then what is an appropriate/reasonable allowance for one day a week?

      • SugarD says:

        Because an arrangement=sexy time SugarD. Just come out and blatantly admit it that you’re using this as means of getting an escort for cheaper and one who hasn’t gone all slutty yet. I wonder what’s in it for your sbs?

        It’s tiring listening to the blockheaded shaming. Some ladies just aren’t cut out for the Sugar life-like you .

        What’s in it for my SB ? Incredible romantic experiences with a loving monogamous gentleman. And a nice allowance that covers her entire monthly rent. Is she an escort ? She sees one guy -me. By your definition is she an escort because we don’t do dinner 1st ?

      • Anonymous says:

        But no commitment. Experiences fade, then you’re left with a downgraded self. Not worth it. Escorts don’t have to see many people do be escorting, same with pro’s. What makes a person that and what makes one a John is the intention of wanting to be with that other person only for their money or sex. Not a good reason, right?

  117. Anonymous says:

    Hello! I am a sugar virgin, super new to this but very excited! This was a wonderful blog, thank you for sharing! My favorite part was when you addressed the No Sugar Baby should make a man feel like a walking ATM. This is not only a fault of overly aggressive Sugar newbies, but of seasoned Sugar veterans that become too entitled. In many cases this is a deal breaker and time to seek out a Sugar virgin that will be more grateful and new to the wonders of a glamorous Sugar life that they have yet to experience. That definitely is a nice stroke to the ego, even if you won’t admit it. ” I’m anxious to meet a sugar daddy ready to show me the wonders of a glamorous sugar life! If anyone is up for sharing tips and advice it would mean a lot! Thank you!

  118. Lucia Heather says:

    Hey! I am a sugar baby virgin, brand new to this… does anybody have any tips or suggestions for updating my profile? Thank you! 🙂

    • elaine says:

      Ok, since I am in a good mood today. 😉

      Your profile picture is not clear.
      That an sich shouldn’t be a big problem but then put more in the public section of your profile.

      Don’t talk all the time in the “I” form but “you”.
      What are you bringing to the table for HIM?
      It’s his party here.


      • Lucia Heather says:

        Is that a little better? I dont know if the photo’s have been approved, but i have added better ones. I have also structured my Bio a little more.

    • Anonymous says:

      Lucia your photo sucks I’d change it for one that shows you in a better light – literally!
      Also, use some of the expensive education you’ve had/are having and turn the impenetrable block of text that is your profile into something more readable – at the moment it is just a stream of sentences with no structure.
      Elaine makes good points too!

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      If you are an aspiring lawyer, and want to be mentored, PLEASE demonstrate that you can write professionally. A good start would be use of paragraphs, eliminate grammatical mistakes and lower case “i” when writing in the first person.

      Next, if you don’t know what you want, how do you expect a SB to know whether to contact you? Perhaps you could consider saying that you are looking for X, but are prepared to consider alternatives.

  119. Bella Small says:

    I’m also a sugar virgin, just waiting for my profile to be approved. Would love to meet some nice people here! 🙂

  120. Junipereal says:

    Hello! I am a sugar virgin, brand new to this…do you all have any tips or suggestions for updating my profile? Thank you! Constructive criticism please 🙂

    • problem is says:

      @Juni, you have a very refreshing profile and will do well; however agree with @Elaine on the non-monogamous unless that is what you’re going for., It def send the message to the less desirable. Photos are great and would def seek you out!!

  121. Junipereal says:

    Hello! I am a sugar virgin, brand new to this…do you all have any tips or suggestions for updating my profile? Thank you!

    • elaine says:

      You have a nice profile and nice pictures, but maybe the profile pic with the skull is not the most attractive to SDs? To “artsy”?
      You are very pretty in a clean “girl next door” way, but I am not sure how SDs will receive the non-monogamous part? There is still a lot of double standards in female vs male sexuality…..
      So it would be nice if some SDs here could answer that for you.

      Mentioning short term might cause massive reactions of the P4P crowd, but I don’t get the impression that is what you are looking for?

      Overall I find it hard to estimate your chances in sugar, for me you should do well, but it would be helpfull to hear some SDs.

      • VA Gent says:

        I find Junipereal refreshingly up front. I really like the artsy girl next door feel, and she ain’t hard to look at, neither. I’m attracted to creative and off-the-beaten-path ladies–I think that’s the first skull I’ve seen in anyone’s profile. ‘Non-monogamous’ doesn’t necessarily bother me either–as I wouldn’t want it expected of me. I just don’t want to be hearing about the other guy(s). I think we might seek a differentiation between ‘short term’, which in my mind implies a relationship measured in weeks or months, rather than P4P, which implies cash-on-the-barrelhead one night stands. As per other posters, “spoiled” is a turnoff. Treated? Share in experiences I can’t now provide for myself?

    • Anonymous says:

      I’d drop the ‘I want to be spoiled’ it ranks alongside ‘I want to be treated like a princess’ as a turn-off for a lot of SD’s. A SD will automatically spoil you if your arrangement is working- no need to spell it out.
      Elaine is right on the short term comment – personally I would tone that down and maybe say you’re open to short term – it’s then on the table and if that’s what a SD wants you can negotiate the arrangement on that basis.

      • Anonymous says:

        and I think you’re pretty – you’re the type I would contact if you were near me – many SD’s don’t want made up glamour girls.

  122. Lucia Heather says:

    I’m just waiting for my Photo to be approved, but i am new and was wondering if some lovely Person will tell me if my profile is appropriate? 🙂 Advice and tips would be great please?

    Would someone mind looking over my profile to see where I can make any improvements.

  123. Lucia Heather says:

    I’m just waiting for my Photo to be approved, but i am new and was wondering if some lovely Person will tell me if my profile is appropriate? 🙂 Advice and tips would be great please?

    Would someone mind looking over my profile to see where I can make any improvements.

  124. CasandraM says:

    I’m new to all of this, I’m getting a lot of views but no messages. Anyone have any pointers on my description? Also should the SB message first or the SD? What is the correct way to go about things?

    • Fundude says:

      Biggest problems in your profile include:

      1) Overweight. Men usually like thinner women
      2) Avoidance of married men when about 80% of men on this website are married
      3) Expect money despite not thinking you will be “intimate”. The vast vast majority of men won’t pay allowances without contingent intimacy. You can go on dates to determine “chemistry” but don’t expect an allowance
      4) You live with your parents

      • CasandraM says:

        Everyone is entitled to personal preference, I don’t like the idea of a woman sitting at home crying because her husband is spending his time with a younger woman that isn’t her. Most college students at the age of 21 live with their parents. It may be a deterrent, but at least I’m honest and upfront about it. Doesn’t say I expect an allowance, does it?

        Thank you for your insight though. 😉

      • Fundude says:


        Just giving an honest assessment of the problems men will see with your profile.

        This isn’t a normal dating website. The men have the upper hand here whereby they can be “picky”.

        Women need to “woo” men if they want to obtain any allowance of any significant number/time.

        I am not even a paying member but still get 1 to 3 messages almost everyday.

        Interestingly, many of these messages come from geographies 100s of miles away from my listed location. The women that message me are relatively attractive as well with some stunners.

        Ergo, if they are being forced to message a non active member 100s of miles away despite being attractive, the pickings have to be slim in many areas for SBs.

      • CasandraM says:

        I get that, trust me. I was not trying or attempting to be snarky. I was honest with my profile, I’m not going to lie to look good for anyone. I’m a woman with plenty of charm, elegance, and intelligence; but I am a person that is better to speak with in person. Otherwise I appear to be a blunt and sarcastic woman with a bitter disposition.

        By the way is there a way I can reach you other than through the forums? I’d like to pick your brain about business. I work for a German company doing advertising, as well as some freelance work, but I’d like to start my own business and build up my own wealth. So it would be nice to pick your brain.

      • Woodsman says:

        Casandra you sound like you’re a very reasonable woman. You profile is good for a dating site profile but the problem is that this isn’t a dating site and the way you’ve set yourself up you’re going to be hit by nothing but Johns.

        Maybe go to Match.com or another dating site instead of an Arrangement site?

        Like I said, great profile, seem to be a sweet girl but no reason to be here if you don’t want an allowance. If you don’t want an allowance then people will perceive you to want P4P, this is exactly what will attract the Johns.

    • Anonymous says:

      Give up immediately. There is no chance in hell you will ever receive an allowance from an SD. I highly doubt that you will receive a legitimate message either.

      • elaine says:

        She mentions NOT to want an allowance… In her profile and in her post (3.29pm) here!
        Reading comprehension is such a bitch, isn’t it?


        @Fundude doesn’t have a brain to pick.
        He’s no SD either and he lives in “buttfuck” US. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t agree with the Anon above, however what business does she have on a sugar daddy arrangement site then, if we remove the sugar out of the equation?

      • Anonymous says:

        speaking of reading comprehension challenged…

        she says “I won’t expect an allowance to begin with” in her profile.

        Then above she says: “Doesn’t say I expect an allowance, does it”

        That is not the same as “NOT to want an allowance”

        who is challenged?

      • elaine says:

        @ Anon
        Well, I might be somewhat challenged in my understanding of the English language, but doesn’t it both mean she is not after an allowance?

        Same business as “SDs” who “don’t do allowances”?
        Trying to date out of their league.

      • CasandraM says:

        I just don’t want to be greedy. I will accept an allowance but I will not expect one. Paying for dates is fine and all for the beginning, I feel it’s good to build something before setting up an arangement.

        Thank you all for your input. Sorry if I had confused anyone! Thank you again for the review on my profile.

  125. Maris says:

    I’m just wondering, are they actually ‘relationships’ where there isn’t sex involved?

      • SugarD says:

        Let me clarify that
        no -not if we are paying an allowance
        What would you bring to the relationship to be worth getting paid ?

    • CasandraM says:

      It says in the guidelines this site isn’t supposed to be some rich man’s escort service. Put out if it feels right. Just like how you would in real world relationships. I know I’m new but I’ve read those guidelines over and over. If a man or woman is forcing you to have sex for money, he or she has no class. But don’t be greedy and expect anything special or extra if you aren’t bringing anything to the table.

      • Fundude says:

        Yeah, this isn’t an ATM service for greedy SBs who just want money for nothing.

        Don’t be greedy and expect anything special in terms of monetary arrangements if you aren’t bringing anything special to the table.

    • spirit_greywolf says:

      I see this a lot – mostly from new SB’s that are fresh in college, etc. They put the line similar to “If you’re looking for sex, don’t look here” or “don’t hit me up for sex” or some common theme. A majority of the men on this site, and by majority I mean 99.95% are looking for intimacy – plain and simple. Don’t expect a lot of responses. Well, real responses, anyway.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’m sorry to break it to you spirit greywolf but this isn’t tinder. Just like in any irl relarionship you should take it slow, not rush and have fun. This shouldn’t be about pressuring anyone to have sex ahead of time.

      • SugarD says:

        Take it slow like in an IRL relationship ?

        News Flash ! This isn’t IRL -it’s a hook up site. Most Daddys are not looking for the love of their life ,nor are they looking for a charity to spend money on . Go to Match or POF if you want a nice slow dating experience . And even on those sites most young men your age will be looking to get laid -for free of course -as soon as possible . Nobody in administration is going to say anything other than what they do to cover their hindparts . The reality is ,if you want money from an SD most likely you will be expected to engage in intimacy with that Daddy -and most likely at the same time as your allowance is given .

        There is no pressure necessary. Here’s how it would go for you .
        SD :”Oh ,so you want $ /month allowance ? I agree.”
        you:yes ,thanks so much. would today be OK to get it ?
        SD “certainly! I will take you back to my apartment and we can spend a few hours relaxing and getting to know each other intimately”
        You: “But -but -I don’t have sex with a guy until I get comfortable ”
        SD: Sooo ,how long do you think it will take you to get comfortable with me ? ”
        You: “IDK -you can’t rush a thing like that”
        SD: “great ! Allowance will begin when you get comfortable -no pressure -just let me know ”
        You : “But -but -I need my allowance now -I’m not a hooker !”
        SD: Take your time Princess -give me a call when you get comfortable ”


      • SugarD says:

        @Anonymous 540 AM

        Sorry Princess ,but you aren’t cut out for this lifestyle I’m afraid. Keep dating the X-Boxers you meet in the bar or on campus. maybe they will split the check with you .

      • Anonymous says:

        imagine if an SD said…. I need bjs until I decide if I am comfortable with providing an allowance…. it shouldn’t take more than 6 months to decide.

      • SugarD says:

        I agree that SBs should not be intimate until an agreement is reached as well . Both should get what they want .

      • Anonymous says:

        This is NOT a hook up site. Clearly you haven’t read what this site caters to, it’s not tinder, it’s not POF, it’s where older generous men get to meet and form some kind of bond with their sbs while getting companionship, and yes, intimacy may occur but that shouldn’t be required or pressured. Probably because I am not ready to get deflowered by anyone yet, because I value myself. This shouldn’t be just about sex because it’s quite obvious when it is, and then what’s left really, what’s stopping someone from being another person’s cheap escort alternative who gets dumped after 1,2,3 or even 6 months?

      • SugarD says:

        I’ve been a SD for 10 yrs-how long have you been an SB ? Brand new .
        So you can justify your feelings about what Sugar is -or should be ,but the reality has been presented to you by me and a few other Daddies in this space .

        If you are not ready to “be deflowered” as you say ,then post as a Platonic and report back when you get an arrangement . You have the choice to make this about what you want. We SDs have the choice to not choose you .

      • A Nonnymouse says:

        Sure anonymous @8.16. No problems. As long as you don’t want anything financial, that’s fine.

        In the same way, as you point out that intimacy may or may not occur, so too is the case that financial support may or may not occur. After all, paying for a meal is generous. Who said anything about how much generosity should be.

        But no problem really, just put “platonic only” in your bio. No one will bother you.

    • Anonymous says:

      Arrangements, yes, rare but yes. I am sure most won’t admit to it though. The ones who will categorically deny it will most probably be Johns who want to satisfy their sexual hunger, the cheaper way.

      In other words, do not be presaured oe persuaded to be intimate if you’re not comfortable at first. Take your time.

      • Anonymous says:

        Absolutely right Anonymous but with the added points that 1) don’t expect to be paid until intimacy occurs and 2)the longer you wait the higher the possibility your SB will next.

      • spirit_greywolf says:

        I didn’t say it was Tinder “Anonymous”, I was simply expressing the truth as I have seen it to be. Did I say anything about pressure? I’m simply explaining that the chances of getting much “sugar” isn’t going to be very high. Why this truth is something people try to gloss over or candy-coat is beyond me. At least be realistic about expectations.

  126. oliviamichele says:

    So I am new to this site and the world of sugar babies and sugar daddies. I was hoping someone could look my profile over and tell me what I should add and what I should get rid of. I am a college girl really looking for some fun, genuine connections and good friends. None of my friends are sugar babies so I really have no one to ask questions or guide me through the process of being a new sugar baby.

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    • SugarD says:


      You look cute and sweet and I like your profile-long enough and not too much detail.

      Two things:
      1)get a full length pic that shows your figure-an evening gown , shorts and a Tee ,bathing suit ,etc. A nice cleavage shot is always good without too much. And ;
      2)eliminate this sentence ” I am also looking for someone who has no problem spoiling me, since sometimes I like to be a little bit of a princess. ”
      This does not sit well with SDs . If we like you we will spoil you . And Princess means spoiled ,even if you are not .

    • VA Gent says:

      @Olivia I agree w Sugar D. Cute, not much meaningful detail to set you apart. I too find “Princess” and “spoil” a turnoff, better something like ‘treat me well and with respect and I’ll keep you happy.’ I’m not sure about more pics on your post, but be prepared to share more if a serious SD prospect asks.

    • Anonymous says:

      Any mention of ‘princess’ for me is a next – it shows a sense of entitlement which is fine but not with my cash thanks.

      • Just64 says:

        Don’t tell her to take the princess out. She’s going to have that bad attitude either way. At least if it’s in there it’s a warning for those of us who know to avoid it.

      • elaine says:


        I would normally agree with you, but this girl doesn’t seem to have a bad attitude at all.
        Nor does she come across as an entitled princess.

        It is not easy to make a good profile out of the blue, so probably they start off with the usual clichè’s they find in other profiles or base upon what they pick up from the media.

        “Wanting to be spoiled” and “Being a princess” are just two of the most common.
        But more important is the tone in which it is said!

        Entitled as a lot of other”Princesses”, or naive like this girl.

      • Just64 says:

        All right elaine. For now I’ll have to say you could be right. I didn’t look at her profile and don’t have time right now to see what you could be referencing. It could just be the case!

  127. Sunlemon_lexi says:

    New profile update going up tomorrow. Does anyone mind checking it out to give feedback and tips?


    • Anonymous says:

      Sun your profile looks ok the only thing i would recomend doing is remove the picture with your tongue sticking out other than that every thing else is fine good luck in your search

    • VA Gent says:

      You sound like someone I might want to know. Lose the tongue, maybe add in a full body shot–G rated.

  128. Victoria says:

    I have my very first meeting for a chat tomorrow and I feel really nervous. I think my profile tells exactly what I am looking for but I want to make sure I am managing expectations more than ok here… could anyone have a look at my profile and give some tips for first-timers like me? I don’t want to get cold feet…
    Many thanks

  129. Anonymous says:

    The biggest problems with newbies, bar none, is they get cold feet to just meet. Here’s the script. Make contact. Message for a little bit. Move to texting. Probably a week goes by. Attempt to make a first meet. They agree, but say they can’t do it for 3-4 days. As date approaches. They postpone for a time 2-3 days later. Now 2 weeks has gone by. Then day of, they either don’t confirm, or cxl last minute. They may even attempt to make another meeting. If it has happened once, it’s happened 100 times.

    • SugarD says:

      I’ve had success with moving them to a M&G quickly before they have time to become anxious about it . I answer a couple of SA mails ,move to text overnight ,then off to the meet.

      A couple of thoughts
      1)DO NOT talk dirty. Some girls seem open to salacious sexting and it has never worked out for me . Be very polite ,kind, and low pressure .

      2)do not trade reams of pics . I stress that the m&G is for that purpose -to check each other out .I have a few Pics up -a fuzzy face and a standing
      dressed which shows my physique well enough without looking too revealing .

      The longer communication goes on the less likely I am to get to a M&G.

      • SugarD says:

        Once they get to the M&G I sign up most of them .

        I must say the M&G is not a huge effort in my area . If the SB has to get Baby Sitters,cabs,and do an elaborate dress up it would probably involve a lot more chit chatting. I also meet at a coffee shop ,which most girls like anyway and get their fav drink with or without me . They don’t have to dress up at all ,and most college girls make very little effort at all. A tank top, shredded jeans ,and flip flops are the costume de jour

  130. SugarD says:

    @ Blogger
    ” There are guys in their 60s and 70s who take women in their 30s and 40s here.”

    Wrong [email protected] ,this isn’t about you at all since you are a lovely 29 yr old. But I can’t let this retard comment pass.

    Men over 60 are not relegated to the less desirable Sugar options by virtue of our age . As a man of this age group ,I desire and have no problem getting SBs in my target group of 18 to 30. Some men might want a more mature, age appropriate SB and that’s fine for them ,but aging does not change the desirometer . And we’re not talking about getting a life partner or a Courtesan.

    • Anonymous says:

      Age does affect the SMV along with a slew of other factors such as being overwight.

      • SugarD says:

        True dat ! It boils down to desirability. But as the previous posts pointed out ,there are some hot lookers and some dogs at all ages. For a SD ,since we are paying ,we might get a pass for a little bit . I have no illusions that a 20 yr old has the hots for me ,but I am blessed in the SMV department to at least get them in the door and out of their clothes . I don’t care if they desire me as they would a stud of their own generation . They aren’t looking for love nor am I . I have the allowance and know how to make their jingle tingle .

      • Anonymous says:

        The lower the SMV the higher the allowance.

      • beckyboo1986 says:

        Wow reading this conversation has been so enlightening. I managed to understand most of the acronyms but what does SMV mean?

        I honestly don’t understand why a girl would lead someone on to say they will meet then do not. I imagine most of the men on this site lead high powered life’s with high pressured and time critical jobs, people should respect that and not mess around with other peoples time.

      • elaine says:

        Sexual Market Value.

        Some men here think you can put a price on people’s “sexual worth”, based upon their age, height, size etc…

        So as you’ve seen mentioned before, they seem to think that a woman in her 30’s or 40’s has a SMV as low as a man in his 60s or 70s.
        So that should be your “worth” in the sugarbowl.

        They are too narrowminded to understand that this might be true in theory, but as long as you have to deal with (emotional) people and not (rational) machines this is all it is; just a theory!

      • beckyboo1986 says:

        Wow!! I think that’s all I can say. It feels like women are commodities on here. I guess in a way they are…

      • elaine says:

        Don’t bother too much.

        The loudest voices here usually are not even SDs.
        Others are just “Johns” in disguise.
        Some are cowards hiding behind “Anonymous” and stirring shit.
        And some are real SDs and say sensible things. (Often called “beta’s” or “mangina’s” by the rest) 🙂

        After a while you’ll recognize them. 😉

  131. beckyboo1986 says:

    Hi, I’m pretty new here so any advice and tips would be great please?

    Would someone mind looking over my profile to see where I can make any improvements. Also I honestly don’t know how the arrangement thing works. Could someone explain to me the etiquettes please?


    • Cool Nerd says:


      1. LOVE your body! You’re very pretty, so that’ll definitely catch the eyes of some lucky SD’s!

      2. Add more to your profile to explain more about yourself, how you see yourself in such a relationship, what you see as ideal in making it work for both sides, etc.

      • beckyboo1986 says:

        Aww thanks so much!! Ok great I’ll look to bump it up a bit. It’s difficult as I’m not sure exactly what I’m looking for but I will see what I can write.

      • Blogger says:

        Not checking out the profile but if that’s your pic judging by your shaping you look to be in your 40s and that’s just going to make it tougher for you here. Don’t give up hope though. There are guys in their 60s and 70s who take women in their 30s and 40s here.

    • elaine says:

      Hi Becky,

      Your profile is very brief and not really telling what you will bring to the table.
      You are a good looking lady and your pictures are ok, I would only not call myself “athletic” but “average”.


      • beckyboo1986 says:

        Yeah I think choosing which one so difficult!! They don’t have curvy. I’m a size UK 8 so that’s certainly not fat.

    • Anonymous says:

      Minimal escort.

      • elaine says:

        I don’t see anything “escort” here….

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        troll alert @anonymous

      • beckyboo1986 says:

        Yikes this is brutal!! So far I’m a 40’s something hooker.

      • elaine says:

        Don’t worry @Becky

        It’s the usual trolls here.
        And some people just need glasses 😉

        And no, you’re not fat, you have female curves.
        But the men that specifically search for athletic most probably will “next” you, and the ones that look for someone with your dangerous curves will not find you.
        That’s why I mentioned, not to be rude or nasty.

      • Anonymous says:

        stop it thats uncalled for

      • beckyboo1986 says:

        Thanks Elaine. I have changed it to average now. You’re right, I guess athletic could be skinny and flat which I’m absolutely not!!

      • elaine says:

        Seen your pose at the pole you definitely ARE athletic, but that is just not the perception of men selecting on “athletic”.

        They are looking for a pole, not the curvy lady embracing it. 😉


    • Anonymous says:

      hi becky i like your profile your not fat but its hard to describe your shape maybe put average your pictures are good that should help draw attentio good luck in your search

    • VA Gent says:

      Hi Becky. I find you attractive in all aspects–physically and as someone I think I’d enjoy getting to know on any level. You seem real and warm, a real find for the right guy. Once upon a time I traveled to England quite regularly and would seriously have considered making a pitch. Best of luck to you, Dear!

  132. Cool Nerd says:

    Just as another poster said: everyone has to start somewhere. When I first joined the site, I had no idea what I was in for. I’m guilty of being gullible and setting myself up for disappointment; This was probably because I didn’t fully understand the dynamics of an SD/SB relationship and, since I was clearly new to everything, I wasn’t sure how to articulate my vision and needs for what would make an arrangement conducive for me. Obviously I knew what I could bring to the table, but I needed to put myself in a position where someone understood what it is that I, too, expect and needed from this. At times, I just gave up. I wondered.. “OK, is this actually FOR me?’ But, then I came to learn that this type of relationship DOESN’T have to be any different from others you have in your life. Just being yourself, feeling a connection and stimulation to be all that you can for that person you deem special is what contributes to an experience that can feel natural — and just right. Find your voice, have confidence and be the best version of YOU and the rest will fall into place as it should.


  133. Anonymous says:

    So never done this before and I think i found an potential SD and I need some tips to know if he’s a keeper or not help! Oh and how to I tell him about my allowance?

    • Frank95 says:

      It’s part of the deal. Don’t feel the least bit shy about asking him about it.

      Make sure that you have an agreement and money in sight before the panties hit the floor.

      Otherwise, you’ve just given away a freebie…or several.

  134. Bigboobsmcjill says:

    I am a SB virgin and I would love it someone told me what I am doing wrong. Thanks!

  135. Eowin says:

    So, I’m a SB virgin and would really much appreciate if anyone could take a look at my profile. I have recently uploaded pictures and hopes they will be approved soon.
    But for the text I’m wondering if I’m putting to much nonsense and to little “straight forward” in it.
    I would love some tips.

    • Knarf says:

      I believe your profile is excellent.

      • Eowin says:

        Thank you sweetie, I really appreciate that you took the time to check out my profile.
        A shame you only looking for local since you seem to be a gentleman in heart.

    • Anonymous says:

      You used the wrong form of “discrete” – it should be discreet.

      Also, if your hair is the neon pink-purple color all the time, I would not include that picture. A lot of SDs aren’t going to love that look and all the attention it brings.

    • SugarD says:

      You are a lovely woman . Pick either pic as your main profile one and lose the bizarre marked out one .

    • spirit_greywolf says:

      Eowin your profile is great! You make it clear you’re looking for something with chemistry and by no means opposed to intimacy if chemistry is there. I actually wish profiles in my area were as honest and informative of what they’re looking for as yours is!

  136. Klovexoxo1 says:

    I am new to the sugar baby scene but I have noticed that I am not getting as much attention as I thought I would and currently do not have any potential SD. Is there any way to make my profile more attractive?

    • Anonymous says:

      your profile is kind of plain not exciting you might want to go to the blog post perfecting your sugar profile for some tips to spruce it up good luck

  137. SweetYoungNatalia says:

    The most important thing is to be grateful if you are able to find a kind SD. Don’t ever feel entitled to anything. Don’t forget it’s supposed to be something fun and perhaps long term.

  138. Hannah says:

    Help please? I don’t really know how to say this but ok so I have a sugardaddy who’s giving me an offer of $7,000 a month but he says I have to start having sex with him first before he’ll give it to me. Am I just being paranoid thinking I should get something in my hands first before I sleep with him? Sorry if this sounds stupid or greedy. I’ve never done this before and I’m not sure what I should do so if anybody could just tell me it would sure help me a lot. Thanks.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I think you need more clarification. Does he mean the arrangement officially begins when you guys start being intimate so he won’t provide an allowance for the getting to know each other stage? Or does he mean he needs a test drive before he can decide whether to give you an allowance or not?

      If it’s the first option then yes that’s fine if it’s the second cut your loses and move on. Also keep in mind if it feesls to good to be true it probably is. Trust your instincts and don’t let greed talk you into something you might later regret. Good luck

    • elaine says:

      Dude wants a free testdrive and will never give you anything if you ask me….

      Why do I think so? Just common sense!
      A guy that is capable of paying you $7000 a month, wouldn’t be so worried to lose, let’s say $1000, in case you would not keep your end of “the deal”.

      Red flag!

    • Anonymous says:

      hannah your being set up listen to the female bloggers advise

    • problem is says:

      @Hannah, problem you do NOT have a sugar daddy at the moment; he is only a POT (potential) at this point and not a very good one I would say, until you have clarification of the terms!

    • ks says:

      Go 50-50, let him give you $3500 upfront in cash and the remainder at the end of the month.

    • SugarD says:


      Tell him that you will do it for $1600 /week ,to be paid at each visit in advance until you reach a comfort level with him .

      He’s a scammer I assure you .

    • Nonny says:

      It’s called an “arrangement” for a reason. Nothing is for free. Payment upfront! Don’t get played. A lot of these SDs are hit and run types… Getting free sex from naive girls. Good luck!

    • scarlet says:

      money first.

    • spirit_greywolf says:

      Speaking as an SD he’s probably a scammer. If he has $7K to burn in a month and is saying he’ll only give that to you in order to bed him first? Especially maybe knowing you are totally new to this? Typical whaling tactic – subdue you with the promise of more $ than you would have wanted to expect and make it a “take it now or lose it” deal. On any of those in real life – no matter what the bargain is for? I usually walk.

      He has a few different approaches he could have taken especially considering you are new to this whole thing. He could have mentioned his reticence of giving you the full allowance up-front since some of us when we were new got burned on this and learned. It would be good for both sides to see if there is chemistry IN the bedroom, too.

      If you like him, trust him, etc., just don’t sell yourself short. Maybe he’s a “Pay to Play” SD so look at it from the practical standpoint – how much would you accept if you knew it was a one-time thing? You may find there to be a lot of chemistry in the bedroom – or it could be awkward as hell – and the last thing you would want is to feel an obligation to have sex with this guy for a month (or just give him his money back?)

      It’s a risky thing on both sides – but if he has $7K to burn I’d go for a percentage up-front – and mention simply that you both want to make sure it works right. If he balks? Walk away. Under NO circumstances would I do the “okay the first is a free test” thing.

  139. Eloise.xx says:

    Everyone’s got to start somewhere. I suppose it’s about finding a SD that doesn’t mind showing you the ropes.

  140. 09_jt says:

    Okay, I’m not new to this and I already have a few POT, but I want some SB friends that I can talk to about my experiences lol. It’s nice having money and gifts, but I really just want some SB besties.

    • Anonymous says:

      These girls will rip your eyes out LOL be careful

      • Anonymous says:

        LOL! Yes, you want to show off to other girls. What do you think they will want to do? Trying to figure out ways to make you feel inadequate:

        1. making up their own SD’s that give them more than your SD gives you;

        2. pointing out how old, bald and otherwise undesirable your SD is;

        3. shaming you for getting paid for sex.

        It’s just their way of avoiding being shown how inadequate they are themselves. You’d be far better off finding some pets, hobbies and exercise routines.

    • Sugar Baby says:

      I would be you SB friend. i have just join this tonight and have no idea what i am doing 🙂

    • scarlet says:

      Lol no. This isn’t a community. If you want to make friends go to craigslist.

  141. Anon says:

    How young do SD’s like their SBs? I’m pretty young and new to this. My friend is only 20 and has had four different SDs. All the other SBs here are over 21 ):

    • Rebeccathinkbig says:

      I’m actually only 18, maybe your looking in the wrong places?

      • Anonymous says:

        I prefer my SBs to be 25 and older, and under 21 is a dealkiller for me. I want to be able to drink alcohol legally with my SB.

    • Anonymous says:

      I like SBs who are 17/18 and before anybody starts shit 17 is legal in my area

    • SugarD says:

      I like 18 to 26. Some 18 to 21 yr olds are too much into the party scene and can be emotionally absent. 22 is my fav age .

    • Mallika says:

      How long is a piece of string? Every man is different Anon. Ideally they just want you to be younger than them, for some its a few years younger, for some its 10 years, for some its young enough to be their daughter or even their granddaughter and some are even ok with going with someone older. Just go with the flow and see whats out there. I became a SB at 30 (although put my age down as 31) and still got a lot of replies from men who were anything from a few years older than me to 15 years older.

  142. caligirl says:

    This might sound like a dumb question, but I’m young and new to this, so please forgive me. My SD has agreed to pay me $4,000 a month, which is about $48,000 annually. Should I claim this as income? I do have another “real” job in an office that I claim income from and pay taxes out of. When I file my taxes, I’m concerned that the IRS will notice that my claimed income doesn’t match the money in my account. What have other sugar babies done in the past? Do you claim it or just deposit it and hope no one notices? I of course don’t want to claim it because I don’t want to pay more taxes but I’m also a little paranoid… thanks any answer is great

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      It would depend on what form he is giving you your allowance in. Is it cash, is it check, is he depositing it into your bank account?

    • Anonymous says:

      You are providing services in exchange for compensation, so legally it is income. Some say it is a gift, but there are still gift tax issues. Do you really want to file something with the IRS and leave a record of your sugar income? Billions of dollars exchange hands each year without the IRS knowing about it — not saying it is right, but just another murky part of sugar dating.

      and as suggested below, I wouldn’t worry about it until you actually receive a substantial amount of money. Promises are worth the paper they aren’t written on 🙂

    • Arianne18 says:

      Take it in cash and deposit enough (after tax) to pay rent and some essential bills
      Food, shopping money and other things should be paid for in cash
      Lots of SBs put things like “interior designer” on their tax return – ask your daddy if he’ll give you half cash, half card and he can sign off on you as an employee and say you’re a personal trainer etc
      However,if you put “escort” on your tax return then you can claim back beauty treatments, clothing, lingerie, transport etc as work related expenses
      You can also use cash to send money orders and pay bills

    • Sugar D says:

      $4K is the top of the barrel -congrats! You are in the top 1% of all SBs I would guess .

      Get a safe installed at your home/apartment and get the allowance in cash. Stick it in it . Save most of it but pay cash for incidentals. Do not put it in your bank account. Count your blessings and keep this Daddy happy.

    • Anonymous says:

      cali you should be saving some of it if the tax man does come calling you will be able to pay him untill then use the money you save to make more money for yourself

      • SugarD says:

        The Tax man will not come calling if she doesn’t report it or do something stupid . Even if she banks it the odds of a random audit are slim for a minimum wage earner.

      • Anonymous says:

        SugarD i don’t know the tax laws in your country where i am a SB would not pay tax but saving some of the money is still the smart thing to do sugar won’t last for ever

      • Leight says:

        If you really want to pay taxes on it feel free but uncle sam is already taking more than enough money away from me, so I am sure he wouldn’t miss this. If you want to report it, report it as gambling income, there won’t be any questions.

  143. Sabiá says:

    It feels really like the roll of the dice when trying to meet an actual SD on here. Had one that seemed nice enough but turned out his actions didn’t match his words. FWB almost turned in to a relationship…and the guy was 30yrs older than me! Lol Needless to say, that didn’t work out. I know Im still new to this but its pretty obvious that if an SD is incapable of any other subject than sex….literally, he isn’t a real SD.

    Have select guys who say they don’t want an escort or pro but…their actions are nothing different than a guy seeking one of those things.

    • SugarD says:


      Some real SDs are looking for a sexual relationship only. If he wants a longer term arrangement with you and not just a drop and pop it’s still a sugar deal. Some Daddies can’t be seen in public with a hot young girl due to marital risks . It’s not that he does not want to take you out ,he really can’t.

      • Sabiá says:

        Doesn’t feel that way especially if they’re not upfront with what it is that they’re looking for. We’re all adults, if that’s all you want then say so but specify the arrangement you’re wanting though. Majority of the ones I run into say they don’t want an escort etc. talking down about the feelings of “transactions”…its kind of inevitable if that’s all you’re wanting. Guess I’m more so talking about the SDs that stress a FWB or anything other than what it is they’re really wanting. Gotta be honest with yourself before you can with anyone else. I have found that its difficult for the SDs that approach me, to say what it is they’re wanting (married or not) is because by saying it aloud, they’re realizing what it is they’re asking for. I can be ‘One of the Guys’ with the exception of having lady-parts, if they wanna say “to hell” with the being like one of the guys and want to focus on the lady-parts, just say so, so we can move on. Lol

      • Frank95 says:

        That sort of talk is usually code for: “I want it for free” Sabiá. As in let’s have sex for a month and I’ll pay you then. By which time he moves to the next sucker-ess.

    • Sugar Daddy says:

      Great post (and response SugarD)! Just had a discussion with a sweetheart I’ve been seeing from this site last night that was appropriate to this. Before I go on, Sabia, I’m interested – when you said “if they wanna say “to hell” with the being like one of the guys and want to focus on the lady-parts, just say so, so we can move on. lol” Did you mean so you can move on with him to what he wants, or did you mean move on to others because he told you he admitted he wanted to focus on sex?

  144. Anonymous says:

    Unrealistic expectations is common with 1st time Sugar Babes. Thinking that the a SD is going to pay rent and car note and travel etc. Perhaps 1 in a million will do that. But most won’t. And most that say they will are not legitimate. That’s a lesson for the Sugar Babes.

  145. Laura says:

    I’ve been on SA for a white, gotten messages and set up meetings, but I always back out. Cause I panic and just don’t know what to expect and how to act. I just have a few insecurities in myself, when I look at other SB, it always makes me jump to the conclusion of “he won’t like me”. I never go through with it….

    • noname says:

      laura backing out on a first meet will not get you any where im a experienced sugar daddy and i still get nervous on a first date we all have doubts its best to focus on what you hope to gain rather on what you might lose sugar dating is fun and rewarding but if you find you can’t follow through it might be best to leave the sugar bowl and try something else this life style is not for everyone good luck in search and i wish you all the best

    • Bruce Wayne says:

      Do you talk on the phone with your potential SD before you meet. I think you can calm your nerves and get a better sense of his personality. You might eliminate some, but you will get a better feeling for some, and will be more inclined to meet. I would say a good solid 1/3 of the women I schedule meetings with cancel within 24 hours prior to meeting. Some just go silent, and don’t even answer the confirmation text.

      It was mentioned below was has changed in the last few years. I noticed that the overall quality has dropped (looks, personality, etc). There has been a massive influx of escorts who have convinced themselves they are sugar babies. Also, 5 years ago, when I scheduled a meet-and-greet, 90 percent showed up. Today, about a third go silent when you suggest meeting, and another third never show up. I think the recent marketing has made the fantasy a lot more enticing than the reality. As in, the reality hits that I actually have to show up and meet this wealthy man that is twice my age aka no free money.

    • rembolder says:

      Laura – please, do not do this.
      At the very least, text or message to apologize. The POT SD normally has not done anything wrong and you made (a pretty busy) guy to accommodate your schedule just to come up with nothing.
      I have been on the receiving end of it more then I can recall and it is annoying as hell.
      The worst of it – it is unnecessary… Please, think it thoroughly through and do not set up a date if you cannot see yourself committing.

      • elaine says:

        Second that.
        Plus: you give SBs a bad name for being flakes.

        This is not Kindergarten, either play by the rules or leave the adult playground.

      • Tall.Blonde.Curves says:

        I will third this.

        There is enough of an issue sorting out those who are POT vs. those looking to turn this into backpage that the added frustration of someone unready or unwilling to meet isn’t required.

        That said… I have backed out of a meeting when he said he wanted to be my only friend so the only person I ever spoke to was him. Yikes!

    • Frank95 says:

      Well Laura, if it happens once or twice, not so bad. However, if it’s always happening, sorry, but this isn’t for you.

      You’re just wasting your own time and everybody else’s. It’s a bit like the short kid who wants to be a basketball star. Tragically, it’s not going to happen.

  146. Kitty says:

    I’ve never been a sugar baby before and just looking for any advice/tips you guys could share with me. What do sugar daddies expect besides sex? What kind of person are they typically interested in?

    • Anonymous says:

      we’re all over at the new blog topic “top tips for gay sugar daddies”. you’ll have more luck talking there. we don’t usually stay on the old blogs. we move to the new ones

    • noname says:

      hi kitty well thats a broad question so they’re no one answer to it when im looking for someone besides the obvious one im looking for a lady with flexible time requirements i work a lot so i can’t pop over for a quick outing i need advance notice of when im meeting so find out when a SD is looking to go out on a date its not good if you can’t go out when he’s free find out what his interests are is it the same as yours this should help you narrow it down to the ones you will be comfortable with

      • noname says:

        also kitty don’t worry about the money at first focus on finding a SD that you would want to spend time with all the money in the world won’t make a difference if you can’t stand being with someone

  147. keiti says:

    Would you please reach me at private? I need advice.

  148. Dr BB says:

    I’m a single SD and a lot of the newbies who come to me are treating this like just another dating site. I try to explain to them the difference between an arrangement and a relationship, and they don’t seem to get it. They get all offended when I tell them to go to e-Harmony or some such nonsense. I’ve had to block a few.

    Then the virgin SBs that really get me are the T-girls who want me to pay for their sex reassignments. Do they really come on here thinking that somebody they have never met wants to pay a small fortune for them to have their body parts re-arranged, months of hormone treatments, and psychological counseling, and that in a couple of years we can meet and get married? Need I say that is the first time I blocked an SB?

    • noname says:

      dr bb youu won’t get much response here this is a old blog topic the regulars hang out on the latest topic thats top tips for gay sugar daddies

      • Dr BB says:

        Well that’s just great @noname. You hang out with the gay sugar daddies and I will just keep google translating your posts into Burmese, like this:


      • noname says:

        im not on there am i that is where the regulars are hanging out

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Dr BB…

        You do realize that you cant escape gay, dont you?

        It is all around you. It’s hiding in your cupboards.

        It’s floating in your coffee.

        Itll haunt you in your sleep.

        There arent enough sheep to count. Or prod.

        Make your way over to the next blog.

        And dont worry…just because you have a penis doesnt mean that a gay man is going to want you.

        Hope that’s not disappointing :/

      • noname says:

        lol ygtbkm your right thre is no escaping it i surrender

      • noname says:

        they’re not thr

    • Honey Cedar says:

      This is interesting to me… I never had a relationship like this but I know what I want. It seems to me there are a lot of men who are even more confused here. They say they want someone to hang out without any pressure, and if I try to direct the conversation on what kind of generosity they are willing to bestow they get defensive almost rude implying one is a hooker. Massive dissonance. Yes, as a newbie i don’t know how to navigate that.
      My point is inviting a woman to dinner and paying for it does not have a Sugar Daddy make. I think they should change the open/negotiable or add another option the says “paying for dates”

      • noname says:

        what you have described is man looking for a girl friend he’s not interested in being a SD so if your looking for a sugar relationship its best to move on as quickly as possible keep trying there are men who will give you what you want good luck

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        It’s a turn off when the woman brings up money, especially too soon. It comes across as pushy.

        This doesn’t mean that I’m wanting anything for free I know what the site is about however money needs to be brought up tactfully and it is probably better to focus on impressing the SD before you tactfully and seductively say “so are we leading to an arrangement?” If you have really impressed him he will bring it up first.

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        Not many men will pay for dates either. You should try what’s my price but I don’t think many bother using that site.

      • SugarD says:

        They have that already-called WYP.

        A “normal” SD who gets it will move along readily to the contract phase once the M&G happens – where both meet at a neutral public venue ,from a coffee shop to restaurant. No money is paid for this event but some men will pay travel expenses,and certainly the date costs.

        It is normal to talk about expectations at this visit, including allowance and sex. If the couple agrees the arrangement might start then and there ,or in some cases will proceed to another date or two first. By no means should sex or allowance happen before agreeing to the deal .

        A Newbie SD might be uncomfortable talking about these things early on ,but it has to be done . Next him if her pushes back when asked about the deal .

        You look like an attractive woman from the neck down anyway, but Substantial ask is a very unlikely get ,and might turn off a lot of Potential SDs .

      • noname says:

        i missread that at first i was thinking no allowance was being offered after some dates on the meet and greet no money is offered if want to be payed for dates there is whats my price for that

    • Kitty says:

      I haven’t signed up yet but i guess i could say i’m a newbie since i’m thinking about it. Do you have any advice/tips you could share with me? I know that this isn’t like a dating site, but as a sugar daddy what do you expect from a sugar baby?

    • Tall.Blonde.Curves says:

      We get this also. I was going to add a line to my profile about not being here to get married and that is what e-H is for but it is a bit mean sounding. There is a site for everyone…

  149. rembodler says:

    Since this is very dead here – Fundude and I are gonna kick back and have a beer…

  150. rembodler says:

    To Anon above –

    If a dumb person thinks I am not “bright enough”, I always take it as a compliment.
    Thank you, TVC.

  151. rembodler says:

    I think people who want to contribute to the discussion on the new blog can go on a new blog.
    If the discussion moves to subjects I find relevant and interesting, I have no issues to contribute. Until such time…

  152. Anonymous says:

    “There are some forms of support that hurt the one being supported more than the offense, TVC. No need to praise yourself behind the Anon proxy.
    We know how great u r, you tell it to us all the time…we know.”

    That wasn’t her…. that was me. Last time I checked, I didn’t have tits

  153. problem is says:

    not gonna believe the new blog!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      no all the bigots will avoid the new blog like they did the last time a LGBTQ blog was up. they’re afraid they’ll catch it

  154. Anonymous says:

    Guys go to the new blog.

  155. Anonymous says:

    Hello there. I need some lesson today on married sds. Their requirement is no drama but from my experience there is always drama on their part (wify interfering with, him being pissed by her etc). Any comments, please.

    • keiti says:

      Forgot to log in :/

    • TVC 15 says:

      The idea is, no drama from YOU. That’s part of what you’re being paid for.

    • elaine says:


      Nearly all my arrangements have been with married SDs, my experience is that it’s best to both keep a certain emotional distance right from the start.

      The longest lasting arrangements were those with men that were not unhappy in their marriage or private life, but looked for more excitement because their marriages became the same old routine and midlife crisis struck.

      Two times I was dragged away, they were very unhappy in their marriage, we had deep conversations, we got emotionally involved, we didn’t respect the borders and it ended with drama and hurt feelings.

      What I’ve learned is to avoid talking about their (or mine!) home situation or private problems.
      I am not their shrink, I am their mistress, their stress reliever and their distraction.

      So for all parties it is better to keep it light and fun, talking about his wife or unhappy marriage is not part of that.

      • keiti says:

        What’s the deal with married ones? Isn’t it better not to get involved with at all?

      • keiti says:

        What about the situation when his wify/ex invades his space while spending time together? What do you do then?

      • elaine says:


        For personal reasons I prefer married men. But yes, maybe for others it is a no go.
        But realistically, there is very few unmarried men looking for a SB/mistress.
        Why would they? They can have a GF.

        I have only LD relationships, and one of the reasons is the space it creates and also the much lower risk of being “discovered” by the wife. When she happens to call when we are together I just go to the bathroom and let them talk. And of course I never respond at the hotel telephone! 😉

        Since I am at the same agegroup as my SDs and look representative, even when we go out and meet people who know him, it is not a problem because he simply introduces me as a business relation.

        As because there is nothing more annoying as a furious wife blaming and chasing me, I make sure to do everything to keep our affair a secret and will also keep him “on track” to not get discovered.

      • keiti says:

        Do the same rules apply to divorced with kids?

      • SugarD says:

        @Elaine I must say you sound like a perfect Mistress.

        There is a lot of drama on this blog but in our real life Sugar activities we all strive for none. This is why I look for aa rather passive personality in my SBs because I do not want challenging discussions . A partner’s intelligence can come out in non confrontational ways . I explained before ,my beautiful ,smart wife creates enough angst herself jumping on all the various soap boxes that are her passionate interests. My down time needs to be low low key .

        Maybe some SDs who are retired and don’t have a lot of excitement going on need a fiery rattle the cages type of SB . Each to his/her own .

      • elaine says:

        Haha, thanks @SugarD, but what makes me the perfect mistress IS my intelligence, non passive personality and challenging (but non confrontational) conversations! 😉

        That, plus my age and experience.

      • elaine says:


        As I said, I am with married SDs, not with divorced or kids, so I wouldn’t know, and prefer to keep it that way! 😉

      • SugarD says:

        @Elaine If I wanted a Mistress I would pick someone closer to my age-probably like you . But I would worry about the emotional attachment , which could create marriage ending feelings . With youngsters there is NO chance of that happening . I can feel loving thoughts for them but they are not thinking permanent thoughts with me .

      • elaine says:


        Of course I can only talk for myself.
        But personallyI think I am less of a threat for my SDs marriage as most younger women.

        I am balanced and my life is completely in order without a “full time” man and I have done my contribution to the gene pool already, so there is no reason whatsoever to want to wreck marriages.
        I am not jealous, so as long as he can coop with it and we don’t get discovered, there is no problem. I prefer a “time-share” man, I don’t need or want him for myself. 🙂

        It is funny, my brand new SD asked me in the pre-meeting phase: “What if we fall in love”.
        My answer? “Then we will be happy and enjoy it for as long as it lasts”.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        When Elaine talks sugar, I listen.

        She’s kinda like apple pie seasoning, I think. Sweet and savory with undertones of spice. It’s no wonder the gents gobble her up. Hehe

      • keiti says:

        I really like that approach “Then we will be happy and enjoy it for as long as it lasts”.

    • VA Gent says:

      I’m a married SD. I’m straight forward with SBs that that’s the case and that I love my wife and family, but sometimes look for a bit of variety on the side. Wife knows that I may play around sometimes, does not necessarily approve of it–and would likely go batshit if I were caught in flagrente–but has said she just hopes that I’ll be discreet about it and not hurt or embarrass her. We travel a lot–separately–so I get several extended periods of being a bachelor throughout the year. I try not to have full dates with SBs when we’re in town together (lunches and drinks ok) but have let that slip a couple of times. I”m up front about only being available sporadically and thus only get SBs who are ok with that.

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      I’m a married sd but maybe I’m not the norm in how I approach my arrangements….I don’t get attached to my babies and I’m not looking to change my home situation. I love my wife but sexually, she’s very conservative and boring. I look for excitement outside my marriage. It definitely helps my relationship. I’m very open with my sb about my situation but never talk about it unless asked. I never have wife drama as I’m very careful to never let my sb/sd time interfere with my home routine. Married guys that change their routines at home suddenly or on a regular basis will raises cheating suspicions with the wifey. That’s definitely drama potential right there.

  156. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Frank95

    Frank, I do not recall Dave asking me about my opinions about him. As a rule I do not provide unsolicited opinions about other people in public blog. TVC15 on the other hand directly asked for it.

    As to your comments about legal system, people go to prison for crimes not for their personality. So it is quite possible to have an awful personality and to be a law abiding citizen.

  157. Fundude says:

    Holy shit, this whole blog has become a total shitshow.

    This no name is an illiterate moron. Pretty bad today lol

  158. Anonymous says:

    More of a tip/advice/help… The thin line between escort/gold digger/real sugarbaby. I am rather confused when some of these men call some girls “escorts” just because they negotiate their terms or reject them. I mean, if you pay someone to spend time with you or have sex with you, in principle – they are escorting you? No? I don’t think most of these men actually get it. Most of them are married and paying girls for their time. By any definition, that is “escorting” work. So can we please move away from labels. If a girl wants to be paid per date, nothing wrong with that. If she wants to keep seeing you on a regular basis, what difference does that make? The monthly payment may not work for everyone. It doesn’t make certain girls gold diggers or escorts (as a hated term). At the end of the day, men ultimately want one thing – sex… And these girls want money! Get over yourself and take what appeals to you. If it doesn’t, no one is going to force you. We are adults, let’s not pretend we don’t know how this business works! Happy sugaring :”))

    • n0name says:

      Most of them are losers wanting validation by someone younger and better looking shagging them on no actual care package … male scummer = they wamt to meet you for some budget date and want you to travel, then they say, ouch, business, can you come to “this address instead” instead of the arranged public place …. another dude scammer would chat a male up as a girl and ask for cash …. but then if they humored the fat dude for how long, actually it is perhaps fair enough, unlike the set you up for rape scenario ….

    • n0name says:

      Basically. if you want a girl to spend any time or actually put out = you must become the provider guy. Be it just chatting online, going out, taking it further – that is where “negotiable” might become relevant. You want a wife replacement = you buy her a house, lots of guys promise to lick and cook these days

      • rembodler says:

        At Anon – the Original Poster.
        I read it. And then I read it again. There was a point there somewhere?

      • SugarD says:

        So here’s how I see their point-and they are both good sentiments

        @Anonymous-“don’t name call in the Sugar Bowl” It is what it is

        @nOname-“don’t be a scammer -treat the SBs right”

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes, sorry! I tried to make a point and in the heat of everything, kinda lost it.
      1. Stop calling SBs escorts/prostitutes. You pay for their time. End it there. It will not make you feel less guilty or better about yourself by throwing insults at a SB just because she knows what she wants to get out of this. If you don’t like it, move the f*ck on.
      2. Negotiating terms before the first meet up/arrangement doesn’t make them a gold digger or an “escort”. It could be that, based on experience, they have chosen to find a way that works for them. Again, you don’t like it – move the f*ck on.
      3. Let’s not act dumb. We are all after one or two things (sex,money) no matter what happens. So what gives these men a right to abuse & call these girls names?

      At the end of the day, this is business. Find an arrangement that works for you and keep it moving. SB come into this with one goal in mind……..to make quick cash! Never to find love. I don’t think that a SB will ever trust a man she met on a website like this. So it’s most unlikely that as a SD you are long term relationship material. But we can fool each other and lie to each other all we want just so we can all keep the game alive! :”))

  159. Jaybird923 says:

    @nOname are you fucking kidding me right now? Jesus christ have you nothing better to do than to slow the blog down with incoherent posts

  160. Fit_E says:

    That explains a lot. This Sugar world is harder than I thought. Ha

    • n0name says:

      It’s not, if you harden up and do not expect the usual old fashioned romantic leading to safe marriage from each message, they bluff a lot, as in non SDs here. Play safe and know your own worth. They try to put you down but if they want someone down and out (#schrodinger SD), they only need to risk the police patrol chasing guys chasing street walkers, so ignore the non SDs on here and do your own research perhaps

  161. yougottabekiddingme says:

    K…the tension is gettin’ a lil thick in here.

    Time to dance!!!


  162. Anonymous says:

    Want to read a book?

    Add this to your best seller of “Sick of Bullshit” in Aisle 2, Section A, 2nd row down, listed under “I Have Self Esteem and Flaunt It” section, in Barnes and Nobles or your closest local Bookstore.

  163. Anonymous says:

    It is not as hard as you people make it. If their wife is not providing for them sexually, then they wind up here. If the D is not providing for you sexually, then you replace him. If you as a SB are not providing for him sexually, you get replaced. What is so darn hard with the math equation here?

    If I am not being provided for sexually or financially, your darn right I am saying next. There is no struggle or contemplation about this calculation. Ethics? What ethics? I am not bound to anyone but myself and making sure I live a perfect authentic life. You can all sit here and bicker daily (because if you didn’t and I didn’t, we would be a boring group of folks, for real) but the reality is, either they meet your expectations or you think they have enough to invest your time with the said party, or you don’t.

    This thought process does not make you a hooker, a john, or a pro. If you give it up for free, your a dumd ass. If he thinks he can screw you in a car for free or put you out, he is a daumb ass. If you negotiate lower than you like, and you realize, he is inconsistent and doesn’t value your time too, stop texting him and find another. There is a church on every corner for a reason. There is a gas station ona corner for every reason. There is another person on your next venture for a reason, bc the last one thought you were a dime a dozen and then cannot get satisfied and is jacked on prices because the new convenience store on the corner, has to pay its polished rent, baby.

    Can you sell? Are you confident? if not, you will either find a daddy who will invest in your product because he is cognizant enough to know what lies beneath the surface. If not, then there will be another who will invest in you with seed money to get you going. But you cannot believe everything you hear. The bitter ones will dog, down and vomit information for free in order to keep you down or locked in a cycle where you will never ask for high because they don’t think you are worth it. Gee, I wonder if they have looked in the mirror lately from their fabulous bathroom shot where they send it to you to be “Cool Mo Dee”. In there 2 million dollar home to entice you. Even though, you know in advance, they will be cheap as fuck (and you say a prayer they wont)but they show you they are as cheap and manipulating as they come, hold you ground, if you can.

    Yet he is bald as fuck and there on the bathroom counter (in the picture)is a hair straightener that his wife or live in girlfriend uses. But, the man is bald as a shiny, polished table. Apparently, he is not getting his desserts.

    Pay attention ladies. If she wont fuck him, she is fucking others and placing blame on him. The story is as old as Moses/Adam and Eve.

    Your only hope is that he might be exciting and not demean you or treat you like his wife’s BS that she dishes out to him. You can either hang with the BS or seriously only date single guys. If they are not single and fake the funk and do it well, while not wearing a wedding ring and seriously are good at making you cum and believing their story…stay with them, that is bound to rub off on you.

    Live life to its fullest for you, not their mediocre, boring ass depiction of you. Not their blame game of “pity party” you are mean in your responses. Know what you want, picture it, watch you living in it, feel it and “go”. The ones who try to insult you, make you feel bad about yourself, based on projecting from other peoples feelings in order to try and control the situation need to be dragged off to a sick camp of manipulators and be shot.

    No one in life has time for their bullshit. Why are you investing time into a man like this? say “next” and get your freak on and wright these fake fucks off, literally, out of your book. Let the blog discuss and commentators dicuss if they are for real. Seriously? You need to grow a thick skin and let the man know that you are as valuable as him, bottom line. Otherwise, you might as well look at yourself as a prostitute, a sex piece of meat that will suck and fuck for anything. And in my day, that is NOT what a SD/SB relationship was.

    You can join the crowd or you can set a precedence. The choice is yours. Get ready for the cheap skate men to start saying my claim is false. Get ready for them to say your “price is too high ” and you are not worth it. The only one who can set a price on you, is you. Either set it high or get ready to stay on your knees for 8 hour shifts.

  164. Another Anonymous says:

    @ noname

    No, not really. I understand that in a large enough group, there will be always differences of opinion.
    And I do not know who Anonymous is, but reactions of Josh, FatB and Frank are close to what I would have expected.

    • n0name says:

      Sure, there are people burnt on both sides of course. I disregard certain characters on here such as fat dude.

    • Frank95 says:

      Let’s look at this from a factual pov.

      In your essay, you said that TVC’s attitudes were worse than those of murderers. When pastordave was here admitting to rape of a minor, you didn’t object.

      Ok, your opinion, fine.

      However, there’s a whole court and justice system out there costing the public billions that disagrees with you.

      Your opinion, as much as you might be entitled to it, is such an outlier to public opinion as to be quantifiably psychopathic.

      It’s literally measurable psychopathy.

  165. Another Anonymous says:

    @Frank95 and Anonymous

    Thank you for your comments. Let me just point out, that she asked me a straightforward question, so I have provided a straightforward answer. I saw no reason what so ever to lie about my feelings. Obviously you disagree with my opinions and that is just fine, the purpose of the opinions is to differ.

  166. n0name says:

    Here is a very obvious red flag profile for dem “virgins” – e635d5041 Apart from the appearance and allusions to caravanning, there is glaring lack of multiplication skills … as in “substantial” out of 46k income (pre-tax most likely) …. wow, I’d love mentoring to learn that magic trick, on purely platonic basis of course

  167. rembodler says:

    An ideal arrangement is similar to a job SB loves. If the paying stops, one leaves. If what you do is no longer needed, you are laid off. However, while at it, it should be fun and you should be making money.

    • n0name says:

      Lols, and what kind of job would that be? ROFL Slavering for the biggest pimps ever known such as the likes of E&Y and PWC? They charge you out at 400 quid, you are lucky to get 20 from that

    • n0name says:

      Got the cheek to call that form of slavery “career” too ….

    • Cryptic anomaly says:

      Agreed. Even if you live your job and boss if the money stops you leave.

      If you stay on for free you’re a volunteer if you stay on for free after being fired you’re a sucker.

      In a sugar situation if mutual love develops than it needs to progress beyond the time for allowance stage otherwise it becomes an odd mix of sugar and relationship and I think it will end in confusion for both and resentment.

      • n0name says:

        If mutual love develops you should pledge half of everything in fact …. and make sure it is not negative equity

      • n0name says:

        Proper home for two etc …. wifey has to be safely divorced …. etc

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        “If you stay on for free you’re a volunteer if you stay on for free after being fired you’re a sucker.”


        I “volunteer” from time-to-time at a job I used to love. I have a lifetime discount there 😀

      • keiti says:

        Worse if it becomes the other way. ?

      • n0name says:

        I struggle with the concept of loving a job frankly. A job is some shit you do to pay some of the expenses … (the house prices are crazy, I have a neighbour who is smug about having worked for it, but now that kind of job would not even pay groceries, leave alone rents or mortgage ) … I “volunteer” with some local cats as they would not leave me alone …. but then they act all cute and it makes for great excuses for being late to that freaking “job” too … as in three ginger cats invaded my car … totally true in fact

      • yougottabekiddingme says:


        You mean like…

        [infomercial voice]

        Volunteer for a day, and get two days for free! Refer a friend, and get a free day for her, too :D.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:


        You’re doin’ it wrong. Men dont volunteer out of altruism. Men volunteer for p***y.

        [infomercial voice…of course]

        Volunteer for a day, and get one free p***y!! Refer a friend, and get a bonus p***y or one for him, too 😀


      • n0name says:

        @cryptic most likely never worked in a proper work environment …. “a small loan of a million dollars” … “a small loan of a million dollars” but then none of the guys on here are SDs anyway …

      • n0name says:

        @ygbkm … men never ever volunteer … it’s a sort of infomercial all along … as in “i run marathons” ok, you busted your metabolism and not won any records and want to get laid …. Kk

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Ballers gonna ball. Apparently.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Some people get off on marathons.

        When they make a bumper sticker that reads “1.63,” Ill be the first to sign up for the marathon. Until then…gonna take it one flight of stairs at a time.

        The struggle…

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        Not quite a volunteer than kidding me

      • n0name says:

        meant re: ballers …. internet does not like volunteering here

      • n0name says:

        Yep, guys do marathons because they think it would get them laid, despite never achieving a mortgage free house or a perfect six pack …. it is a loser mode really … it cannibalises your muscle, never loses that awkward belly, adds wrinkles and does not add to the pot for the SB either … wife probably hates the whole palarver too

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        But the runners-high is soooo gooood, they say!

        Though one friend told me that runner’s high is the sensation you get when youve run so long, you feel like you have to puke, poo, and cry at the same time.

        Way not sexy.

      • n0name says:

        runners’ high is bullshit. basically they cannot sprint or do anything vaguely interesting so they run and run and run …. people who say they run or cycle on their profile is yet another red flag …. means they are kind of SM and got no clue

      • n0name says:

        they probs merely jog rather than run too

  168. Cryptic anomaly says:

    @kelti you asked how do SD’s perceive love.

    I guess it depends on the SD. For me I can’t believe a woman is in love with me if I am paying her, I know women think it’s support etc but to me if someone loves you they do so whether you are rich or poor whether you support them financially or not.

    If SB were to tell me she loved me I would expect her next action to be a refusal of payment.

    I’m not much for double standards and hypocrisy to be honest. And it depresses me a little that some women would still want the sugar even though they claim to love their SD,

    Different values perhaps.

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Cryptic and Keiti

      Yes, the local perennial question. So let us say, that SD runs into hard times and the allowance MUST stop. Would the love continue? Would the SB stay? It sounds ugly but to me it is like a mercenary soldier professing the love for the country he is fighting for.

      • keiti says:

        If I claimed I loved I would stayed.

      • keiti says:

        Unless it would be SD’s wish for me to leave.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Keiti

        Yes, in that case I can see your point. Good for you.

        But in my opinion vast majority of SBs would leave. Similarly to that mercenary example. Some mercenaries really do get so attached, that they would keep fighting for the cause they grew to love, but majority would just seek a new cause and a new stipend.

      • n0name says:

        He’d have to divorce wifey and start investing heavily in something with me instead :p

      • yougottabekiddingme says:


        Interesting comments. How, if one is already a man of means, would he know for certain that his resources dont play a significant role in securing a woman. Also, does it really matter which begot the other if the end result is that youve come to love each other? Can what is well not be defined by that which ends well? And if so, could you not suffice for leaving well-enough alone?

        Just curious

      • n0name says:

        They claim certain amount of net worth so they can put that where their heart (or smaller head) is … divorce wifey, claim allegiance to mistress they newly marry :p problem solved …. obligations to new family are allowed by divorce/child maintenance courts

    • n0name says:

      Pfft. If a man loves the woman, he would turn inside out to be or become a good provider.

      • Anonymous says:

        noname you’re right on target…. I lived it….. couldn’t be more true

      • keiti says:

        Thank you.

      • n0name says:

        And that is why I welcome a responsible polygamist 😉 Incidentally there is a local example of a fella who built a house for a wife and a house for a GF. That is what I’d call a proper responsible male.

      • n0name says:

        Give us a house with good living space, gym etc including bedroom and kitchen with well stocked fridge, then expect bedroom acrobatic and home cooked meals 😀

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        A good provider? That doesn’t sound very feminist or progressive, as a believer in equality I can’t get on board with those types of gender stereotypes.

      • keiti says:

        @ N0name
        You’re so funny ?

      • n0name says:

        @cryptic, you mean fat ugly chicks in boiler suits?

      • n0name says:

        as in stereotype or you are the proverbial I pump and I enjoy and now you go and fend for yourself and the babe douchebag ? as in another stereotype perhaps …. expecting a woman to fend for herself and not beat her up as rapefugees is not any kind of a virtue

      • n0name says:

        @keiti thanks 🙂 just being me = abrasive

    • TVC 15 says:

      Let’s say the SB runs into hard times (health problems) and the sex MUST stop. Would the love continue? Would the SD stay? I wonder.

  169. problem is says:

    “I am a single woman who just moved cross country alone to start fresh. I am BP familiar and don’t want to be.. I would love some advice.”

    “Would love some guidance from someone willing to meet 3-5x weekly consistenly for the next 2months for brief pleasurable mutual counseling sessions ”

    Wonder what she’s looking for and just how familiar is she to BP? hmmm

    • SugarD says:

      Sounds like she has pumped and dumped off BP and now wants a steady gig with a lower volume lifestyle . A Sugardaddy !

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        Just like some of the women I’ve seen down here who work in brothels and join SA so they can’t find a regular. If I wanted a whore I’d go to a brothel a SB is a little different.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        At least she’s upfront and honest about it. Plus no need to worry about if she’s platonic or not… she’s DTF

      • Anonymous says:

        You are brilliant. LMAO

      • ks says:

        Maybe she is a born again platonic…

      • n0name says:

        And how would membership of SA render them unable to find a regular? Lol

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        True jay but I would prefer lower mileage in a SB than the mileage the average hooked has.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anon xoxo Can you believe some people don’t think so? 🙂

        @KS Sure, anything is possible maybe she means to provide actual therapy sessions. I don’t see how that would be pleasurable though…

        @Cryptic You guys have no way of knowing how much “mileage” some of these SBs have. Read some of the IG/tumblr post and you’ll see how many guys some of them have in rotation.

        Like that chick from vegas with 50 SDS. I’m pretty sure some of them thought that there might be one or two at the most, but I doubt any of them thought they were 1 of 50 or that she sees 5 of them a day.

  170. Shinaa_20 says:

    Available for meet

    • Fundude says:

      Looking good woman

    • n0name says:

      Yep, you know all those guys who WLTM someone “down to earth” …. unless they are that strange Schrodinger male type, she should be clever, but not really clever, you know ….

      • keiti says:

        Explain please

      • n0name says:

        They need you to be stupid enough to pander to them on the strength of their bullshit and nothing else; you have to sleep with the shit because they want to try the goods and then they must to piss off because of whatever other shit, you know; and they wanted it to be for real, so like if they were a total pauper you would shag, so there = they give you a chance because they were never an SD in the first place, you can prove your capacity for being suckered by an ugly fat dude to kinda gratify their penniless midlife crisis

      • n0name says:

        With that they demand that you be bright and educated …. I detect a conundrum

  171. Shina says:


  172. rembodler says:

    I would never ask SB to move. In another life, when I had girlfriends, it would be a while before I would offer her to move in.
    SD-SB relationship is build on the understanding that either party can end it tomorrow. If you moved and rely on your SD for everything neither of you can end it tomorrow. In a way, that makes you even more permanent in his life than a girlfriend. He may as well find a girlfriend and call her a girlfriend.

    • keiti says:

      I heard that sbs/sds continue to be friends after ceasing the arrangement. What makes it different in boyfriend/girlfriend relationship? Why do you think that boyfriend/girlfriend relationship can’t be ceased (you call it permament; to me the only permamency is marriage). Clarify please.

      • rembodler says:

        Boyfriend girlfriend normally implies that the woman has sufficient means to support herself. As an SB there is the understanding that you rely on your SD, partially or completely. “Friends” does not have any financial backing…

      • keiti says:

        And there are no exceptions to the definitions you just posted.

      • keiti says:

        Also what you’re telling me is that while you had a girlfriend you never helped her financially, she was always in good standing…and she preferred to go and ask somone else for help rather than her boyfriend.

      • rembodler says:

        I did helped her. But she maintained a large degree of autonomy. She had a steady job. If we were to split, my responsibility to her will be less than to a woman who I made move on the promise of complete support.

      • keiti says:

        In my view, being a SB doesn’t cancel “autonomy” and ability to move on gracefully.

      • SugarD says:

        BF/GF breakups usually involve love lost.
        SD/SB are an arrangement and involve lost money

      • keiti says:

        Being in a long term arrangement with someone you are genuinely attracted to doesn’t involve any emotions, just $. Funny.

      • rembodler says:

        Not funny at all. Arrangement establishes boundaries. It is a deal. You uphold your end, I mine. Emotions are not a part of it. If you are in love with your SD, it is no longer an arrangement.
        “Being in a long term arrangement with someone you are genuinely attracted to doesn’t involve any emotions, just $. Funny.”

      • keiti says:

        So my next question is how do SDs perceive love?

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        In my experience, the breakup of a long term sugar relationship is just as messy as ending a long term bf-gf relationship. I wish it wasn’t the case, but it always has been.

      • SugarD says:

        @Keiti Love ?

        I am a Romantic and love being in love . It is certainly possible to fall in love with one’s Sugar . The ideal is to love each other but not to the extent that you could not live without them . That can be a fine line .

        It is easier when the arrangement is a May/December one -when Daddy is decades older . My SBs are fond of me but it is so impossible to consider a permanent relationship for either of us that we don’t ever go there .

        If you are within 15 years then it could become a love affair and therefore a stickier wicket

      • n0name says:

        “long-term” = a con because they are free to next you whenever and you would probs get eff all in those “mutual benefits” … luckily hte law here is moving towards recognising unmarried relationships too 😉 plus DNA testing is available ….. ….

      • n0name says:

        verify his finances and sprog up by all means 😉

      • n0name says:

        There it is = they do not support you = no honey 🙂 As in from day one, very refreshing in fact.

      • n0name says:

        @ Bruce, if you bought them a flat as a parting gift it probably would not be nearly as messy …. just saying …. some bona fide CEOs do it too

    • ks says:

      Hmm, if you are legally married and separate there can be claims for support, if you are not legally married but living together like common law man and wife can she not also come after for you for support? I don’t know, but I would be wary of too much togetherness in SB/SD arrangements.

      • SugarD says:

        Some states do have common law statues. Bottom line is -if you move in with a girl you are screwed in more than one way .

      • n0name says:

        In the UK they can now; separated means they might well have other “obligations” ….. but then perhaps it is better than a wife having her nose in his bank account at all times = one of the excuses if you put out before allowance .. …. then it is like poor diddums lost money on stock market …. argghh right … your butt needs a firm kicking action

      • n0name says:

        If they are really wealthy they would have to provide report by auditors of my choice, he pays laters of course

      • n0name says:

        or own up to being a total bullshitting hypocrite re: SB has to be clever and educated yada yada

      • ks says:

        You must of understudied Shylock the Merchant of Venice as you will secure your pound of flesh…

  173. Another anonymous says:

    @ TVC15

    So yesterday you asked why I was so fascinated by you. I have been following conversations here and I have of course communicated with you. In my experience you are the most unpleasant person I have ever communicated with and that lists includes multiple people serving life without parol and two convicted murderers on the death row. So I was wondering why you behave the way you do.

    First I thought it was just a usual behavior everybody knows from the high school. A fat, clumsy, pimpled geek is in love with the cheerleader. If she does not love him back, at least he can pester her, anything for attention.

    But now actually I think it is deeper. It is not that you pester people, you intentionally go to places, where you think you can hurt them. See your comments about people being fat or ugly, or the lowest of all low comments when you were insulting my parents. So it is not only craving for attention, there is hate. But why? You probably see yourself as a strong, independent, smart, educated lady and you also crave being wealthy and poweful.

    But it is not so. Your education is the worst kind, the education journalists usually posses. You know isolated facts, but do not understand connections and are quite slow in understanding the explanations. Remember that conversation you had with SSSD. He was trying to explain that there are many types of inequality, but you were like a broken record and repeating the INCOME inequality link. Thus not only showing inability to learn but also showing your obsession with cash. It was the same in many other conversations. You did not know who Medea or Rahab were, despite your profound lack of medical knowledge you pointlessly argued with Rem about infectious diseases, just to name a few. You also show inability to view things from other people perspective. Yesterday you were mocking the US military as an agent of freedom. Did it ever occur to you, that many people had their ancestors liberated from concentration camps by US military and up until now they are grateful for that freedom. I guess not.

    You remind me of a fictional character Maurice Kemp-Lore from The Nerve by Dick Francis. The guy desperately wanted to be a succesful jockey, but he was a coward and too clumsy. So instead of being a great jockey himself, he just made his life mission to torment and hurt people who unlike him were succeding in achieving his dream. Yes, that where you fit. Just wanting wealth, success, power, but when not getting them, at least you can hate people who got them.

    Now of course, you are only a blog character and I might be completely wrong. Maybe you are the nicest person ever and this is just a twisted way of making fun of us. But I would not bet on it.

    Hopefully this explained my fascination with you. Obviously you would write some snarky comment here. But when you do have a moment, ask yourself, whether I am really as wrong as you will claim here.

    • Anonymous says:

      Actually I think TVC is the most interesting character on this blog.

    • Josh says:

      @Anon, negative.

      @AA, spot on.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Thanks for sharing. 🙂

    • FatB'StardSA says:


      That post should be a “sticky” on the blog.

      Have a nice day :-).

      P.S. I would love it if you would profile me as well!

    • Frank95 says:

      @AA about TVC “…In my experience you are the most unpleasant person I have ever communicated with and that lists includes multiple people serving life without parol and two convicted murderers on the death row…”

      Seriously? Get a grip man. That’s just absurd.

      “…you intentionally go to places, where you think you can hurt them…”

      Like you are doing with this piece of spiteful nastiness?

      AA, Your little diatribe tells us more about yourself than TVC.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes it does, he went all out there to try and capture her attention with this long wasted time post just to answer her question about why he is so obssesed with her and confirm it.

      • Frank95 says:

        Not only that anonymous, he’s just handed TVC15 a weapon she can use against him anytime.

        Imagine if you will, a new SB posts something that AA objects to. He sends off a sarcastic reply. Then TVC comes into the discussion with choice excerpts from the rant AA just posted. Along with a comment along the lines of “Ignore him, he’s a deranged lunatic, look at what he wrote here….”. And she will be able to do this to him…every.single.time.

        You almost think he wants her to have power over him.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        A TVC15 is a modern day AR-15, duh.

    • Anonymous says:

      Damn Another never knew you were such a jackass… if you feel that way about her then your stupid azz should just ignore her on here…..

      TVC is one of the best women on here… she has standards … she has things she believes in…. and she has a brain. Does she get abrasive sometimes? Yesssss but we all do…. and the only time I see her do that is when she’s being attacked or somebody is saying some really dumb shit that victimizes someone else

      Some of us actually like women who know how to defend themselves and stand their ground instead of just being bubbleheaded hoes who always agree………….

      TVC is REAL……. just look at the way she responded to your fucked up BOOK……… she has more class in one tit than you have in your entire body brah………

      FUCKED UP……….. you FUCKED UP

      • rembodler says:

        There are some forms of support that hurt the one being supported more than the offense, TVC. No need to praise yourself behind the Anon proxy.
        We know how great u r, you tell it to us all the time…we know.

  174. Fundude says:

    Tommy Sotomayor on the Double Standards on Women’s “Standards”


  175. Another anonymous says:

    @ Rem and Keiti

    Actually I understand the LD very well. It works the way Elaine described, if you spend a lot of time on the road. I used to spend majority of my time travelling and LD worked great.

    On the other hand I would strongly caution against moving because of SD. As we all know the SB allowance is the least secure income on the planet, SB would place herself to a new enviroment without any outside support, it is just a recipe for complete dependency on your SD and subsequent disaster.

  176. ks says:

    Well this was just asking for trouble…

  177. Anonymous says:

    Hi am new here and looking for a sugar daddy or mama

  178. Fundude says:


    Introducing Dad Bod Ken.

    Fucking equality bitches

  179. Anonymous says:

    The very definition of delusional:


  180. Anonymous says:

    Lame ass sex partner [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_3d6GntKbk]

    he so totally deserves to be bypassed and does not deserve this equivalence of favor, lame as f’er….

  181. Anonymous says:

    To THE MAN who started it all: I give to you my accolades of affection and pure honest serenity. You inevitably made life more than “Taco Tuesday” based on the sexual attraction that was delved deep upon our immediate conversations, You made all of life boring until today.

    today, I finally had the same odd circumference of experiencing Wi-Fi where Wi-Fi connection with a carrier was none existence and my song still played. You had the connection, the same as the airplane as I was coming to se you and no ones audio device would pick up, but mine… The song I began when we met (on my way to you) as the on-passers looked in astonishment at the fluidity to whatever I desired.

    It was catamoclismic in a remembrance of what I cannot forget that started it all and brought it back to home.

    I was speaking with an ex SD, that still views me as a wewaker vessel. Even though, my By-=Gone to him was as erotic as I can be, considering I am walking away since he does not provide for me and has not for over 2 years. I told him to youtube: Zyan: Pillowtalk

    and he continued to be defiant, even though I am numb to him and beyond our 5 years where I know I am one of many and certainly, not a mistress. He is fooling and lieing all he can to pretend that he is a mere pauper when I know far better and he manipulates and degrades women. I was kind, to say the least, FAR MORE THAN KIND, to leave him with such a song, considering I have literally struggled by the skin of my teeth and would rather find a stranger on the street to give to me, than ask his self-righteous, sacred ass for a dime. he is a manipulator that will make a woman beg on her knees in pitiful circumstances, while he lives in a 2 million dollar home. Ladies, please wake up. Do not ask for less than a bank statement. Make it be for real. about your goods, or you will fall victim to being the victim he makes you, FYI.

    I finally, after over 2 years experienced it, all over again. Realizing, my adue (bid farewell) to such a creeper, gave him too much deserved credit that he deserved not and was still a self righteous prick in the process. Get yours ladies.. No one else will help you get yours but you. His grandmother farts dust with his name on it, his tactics are so old.

  182. With a Bow on Top says:

    Question time.

    What is it with members and not wanting to FaceTime or Skype to verify their identities. Isn’t that the surest way to tell if you’re talking to a real person. Why is it always some big argument about proving you are the person in the photo? I understand if you’re married etc…but still people catfish people all the time. SD/SB both.

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      Excuses I’ve just received:

      #1 But it cost me money to join the site. And the whole purpose is to meet people in person. What in the world do I have to gain by faking anything?

      #FaceTime feels very private for me. Just too fast. I’m sorry you don’t agree. And I really am exhausted right now. I just want to relax tonight and go to bed early. You don’t need to respond.

      #2Why would someone in my position do this? That makes no sense


      • rembodler says:

        @WaBoT – no offense, but here is a very honest answer. I do not have to.
        I would not FaceTime, I want to meet you.
        Either you want to meet or you don’t.
        If you don’t (=you want to FaceTime, Kik, Whatsup, $300 for a dinner date, see my tax returns first, get a deposit into your checking account first to prove I am “real”, get a WU transfer to prove I am “real”), I go to the next chick on my list.
        No offense, but – I am yet to get to a point where I do not have chicks to text with, get dates and get laid. Once that starts to happen, I might entertain the idea of a FaceTime.
        Again – thank you, Mr. Wade, I am so very grateful.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @Rem I don’t know it all just doesn’t make sense to me. You have no problem giving me your personal number and showing me photos of yourself and then you tell me that FaceTime is too private. It screams sketchy. I’m not asking you to prove that you have the money to do this. I’m not asking for you to prove your worth. I’m asking to prove you are the person in the photo. Is that so much to ask?

      • rembodler says:

        I have no idea. Maybe he does not want you to record him.
        Truth be told, the way I see it, it is irrelevant. If she makes any demand I think is unreasonable, I next her and move on.
        WaBoT, it is a supply and demand issue. I hate to sound like a broken record, but if a dealership says they need to see my grandmother’s birth certificate before I can test drive their car, I go to the dealership next door. I am not going to argue with them whether their request is reasonable or not. I just call the next number on my list.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @Rem Fair enough. Still….its just weird. Haha.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        If the shit hit the fan, phone calls and pictures can be explained away but a video recording of yourself in the hands of someone who can cause you harm can’t. For most people the rewards are just not worth the risk. Like Remmy said you just move on to the next person on your list plenty of women/men who will meet without that requirement.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @Jay surprisingly enough he was more inclined to take a picture doing something absolutely ridiculous than to video chat. So, catfish averted.

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re seeing fish where there isn’t even a stream. Who the hell has time for all that shit? if you have the time for that crap just meet in person. I think this is a generalational difference maybe. Who knows. I just know I wouldn’t waste that kind of time………….

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Bow not necessarily a catfish. I’d have no problem talking on the phone or snapping an impromptu selfie but I wouldn’t waste my time with Skype and etc. I’d just move on. If I’ve provided clear pictures of both my body and face and that’s not enough to meet for cup of tea/coffee oh well. When I was active on the site no one ever asked for more than a phone call though…

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        You would be surprised @Jaybird.
        I’ve been asked to Facetime/Skype with no problem in doing so. I don’t get requests to chat on the phone at all. Usually any communication outside of the site is usually per MY request. Very rarely is a male member that I have dealt with interested in moving away from the site as far as communication goes. Its honestly like pulling teeth to get them to talk outside of SA.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        That’s weird. Usually within the first 2-3 message exchange on SA they ask if I want to email or text instead. Only talked on the phone with 4 of them before meeting and those were just regular conversations I didn’t feel like it was for verification purposes…

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        No no no @Jay this is just in general. They all seem to want to have these long drawn out conversations via SA that they never want to progress from.

      • ks says:

        I will initially Skype as I have suitable accounts. I want to ensure I’m meeting up with someone who is similar to the profile photos. I do not initially prefer FaceTime but will use it after meeting them as I tend to have only one FaceTime ID. For both our safety I believe Skype/FaceTime is a useful safety screening precaution prior to meeting.

      • ks says:

        @Jaybird923 says:
        You can also minimize the consequences of video the same as pictures/text/calls, it depends on what you talk about on the video. As a quick Hi to check each other out it can be explained away as a wrong number/prank call.

      • FatB'StardSA says:


        Interesting that some people advocate showing bank statements but think that a Skype call is an invasion of privacy (or it could be a lack of reading comprehension on may part).

        I agree with you that a quick 5 minute Skype call is a great way to verify the SB’s/SD’s pictures and get a feel for their personality before meeting for lunch.

        I wonder of the blog posters are pulling their dicks out or demonstrating dildo skill (possibly both in @Frank95’s case) during their introductory Skype “sessions”. You people know it’s possible to record conversations in person as well don’t you?

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I agree with Rem and Jay here.

        Long distance is a considerable exception. Within the same city, why not just meet in a public place, and keep discretion intact?

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      You can’t really meet in person when someone is on the other side of the country

      • Anonymous says:

        See I don’t mess with that shit. Advise you don’t either. Distance is mostly scam garbage on both sides

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        I’ve had success in the past with LD. It doesn’t bother me because I treat it a lot differently than normal arrangements. But I do understand the “scam garbage” aspect of it. Its not for everyone.

      • rembodler says:

        I always wonder who wants to do LD and why the hell…
        What can be better than a woman who lives 5-10 min drive away, can be seen on a short notice for a lunch date (if it works for both of us), or can come see me for overnight if I am lonely and want a company NOW.
        Maybe I am just very lucky and my city is hub of pretty young women?

      • elaine says:


        If you were married and travelling all the time for your job, and your mistress/SB is available to travel with you, LD is perfect.

        It is just a different kind of arrangement as the ones you are used too.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Also, if you’re picky, you may not be able to find the right person locally. If you’re not, of course, the nearest physically attractive person with a pulse will do.

      • keiti says:

        Some of the SBs might be ready to move 5-10min away from you if you desire and help them.

    • Frank95 says:


      I’m with rem on this.

      I figure that the whole point of the site is meeting people face to face. Even with the messaging system, some people take forever to get to the point of meeting. They keep texting forever. Then get all annoyed when I get exasperated to the point of saying “Listen, will you either piss in the pot or get off?” (Diplomatically, of course lol). I have no problem with someone exchanging messages, deciding I’m not for them, and gracefully extracting, but interminable messaging without meeting is pointless. Adding Skype on top just adds to the process. It’s really like dealing with the public service, anything to delay a decision, and they take to it like ducks to water.

      • keiti says:

        My feeling is that endless messaging from a SD is a sign of his boredom in the moment while waiting for something better to come. I might be mistaken, though.

      • SugarD says:

        well covered answers. I don’t skype because:
        1)generation gap
        3)@Jays answer-ditto

      • Frank95 says:

        That’s the point keiti, exactly.

        I would regard an invitation to Skype as a simple holding ploy.

        Someone to hold onto just in case they couldn’t get anyone else.

        The opportunities have never been that sparse that I should worry about that. That doesn’t discount interesting conversations though, but don’t need Skype for that.

  183. Another Anonymous says:

    Ok, I will write it tomorrow.

  184. Another Anonymous says:


    Do you really want to know, why I am so fascinated by you? Or should I stick to peace and ignoring you? You might not like the answer.

  185. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Blogettes

    Maybe we should not see it as only two options, she finds him attractive on one hand and she finds him ugly and revolting on the other. What if the guy is just neither?

    And a second question. When guys are talking about attractive, they usually think about physical looks or at most personality. Never about power, social standing or wealth. How many ladies are attracted to those latter characteristics? And I mean really emotionally attracted. Not just calculating?

    • Elaine says:

      Wait @AA, I don’t get it. How can anyone be emotionally attached to money, or status, or power? Of course these characteristics can make a person more interesting, but they will not cause more emotional attachment.

  186. Another Anonymous says:

    @ KS

    Look a few posts down, the well-known equality warrior is immediately suggesting to take conscientious objection.

    • Anonymous says:

      Freedom costs nothing to women. It’s free to them.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Why are you so obsessed with me?

    • TVC 15 says:

      Oh yeah, Freedom. #1 product of the US military. Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…

      • Anonymous says:

        “Freedom costs nothing to women. It’s free to them.”

        Tell that to all the women who have lost husbands and sons and fathers and brothers

      • Anonymous says:

        Hahahaha…how so very Hilary Clintonish…

        “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”

        “Equality” requires that they lay THEIR lives and NOT their husbands’, sons’, fathers’ and brothers’ lives.

      • Anonymous says:

        We weren’t talking about lives. We were talking about something vs nothing. I could’ve even mentioned income or community status or safety. Something vs nothing asshole. And BRB while I go vomit…………. that goddamn hyena. Why in the hell did you have to bring her up?

  187. Another Anonymous says:

    @ KS

    Well are they going to fight for those rights? And I mean bloody fighting, not pretending to be courageous on MSNBC.

    • ks says:

      Well combat roles are opening up. There is more equality on pension age. Still some discrepancies on equal pay (both ways…not many men get allowances from their Sugar Mama compared to amount of SB allowance from SD)…

  188. ks says:


    In 1815 women had no rights…
    In 1915 women fought for some rights…
    And now in 2016 women are always right…

    • Anonymous says:

      In 1815 who do you think was to blame? The remaining gender
      In 1915 who do you think was to blame? The remaining gender
      In 2016 no one is to blame.

  189. rembodler says:

    I actually disagree. I do not think “avoiding” it has anything to do with SD being attractive or not. It is simply a stigma of “selling my body for $”. In her mind, scamming rinsing webcaming is Ok, since she is “not a prostitute”.
    Look even at supposedly very liberated womanlike Vixen. She is perfectly fine with her daughter doing a train with frat boys since “this is normal”, but is vehemently opposed to her fucking an older gent cuz “only girls with borderline personality disorder” do that…

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I think you over complicating it and I’ll tel you why in a moment. Based on the scenario I was given

      “If a girl wants to have an arrangement with a really wealthy and generous guy and she is given a choice between a guy that she does not find attractive or no such guy at all.”

      they realize they need the wealthy unattractive SD’s money but have no desire to sleep with him so they try to find other means of extracting the money from the SD. Some will rather have no money at all and some will cave once they realize they can’t the money any other way than on her back. All those other things such as cam girl, platonic, etc. have very little to do with not “selling my body for $”.

      As we’ve seen many times on the blog it self they have no problems sleeping with the old unattractive SD. The only time they think of it as prostitution is when the dollar amount is to low for their liking.

      If a SD makes an offer of $200 per a meet she turns it down because she’s not a prostitute. If the same SD makes an offer of $2,000 per a meet she accepts because she’s not a prostitute… now she’s a SB :-))

      • rembodler says:

        Well…I think if the woman is open to sex, she will not say platonic. Yes, that is exactly the one who would say she is “not the prostitute” once the amount is right.
        The woman who says – and means- platonic does not care how attractive a SD is. She is just determined to get money for nothing cuz she is so “smart and cute”…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        The woman who says – and means- platonic does not care how attractive a SD is. She is just determined to get money for nothing cuz she is so “smart and cute”…

        Those are the ones willing to walk away with nothing. I think most of the rest of the platonic are just trying their luck. hey if you can get someone to give you money for just your presence why not. But most of them usually come back with a different profile after a couple of weeks once they realize it’s not going to happen.

      • Anonymous says:

        Again don’t confuse every SB with you Jay. The platonic ones are usually those who won’t have sex for any reason and no amount (at least from what I’ve gathered) because they don’t want to ‘whore themselves out’. Being worn out for a few years by the SD’s is as useless to a woman as is a broke man for marriage. I actually think they’re smarter for thinking this out. And why not, doesn’t SA advertise this?

      • Frank95 says:

        Putting “platonic only” (I have seen plutonic as well, lol) has advantages for some women, even if they have every intention to provide intimacy as part of a deal.

        The first advantage is that while it will stop many guys from contacting her, it doesn’t stop her from contacting any guy she chooses and telling him that she’s up for intimacy. In other words, she takes more control of who contacts whom. For a newbie, very attractive woman, this eliminates a lot of the opportunists who swarm newbies and fill the inbox.

        The other reason for using “platonic only” is for plausible deniability. If someone she knows finds out she’s on the site, she can virtuously point out that she’s only getting paid for going on dates and nothing more.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @anonymous why don’t you learn to read and process information as it is written instead of misreading peoples post and using it as a platform to voice your stupidity. I don’t confuse others with myself since I fall outside of the original business model. If you want to try to insult me at least use something that’s true implying I’m a whore is a waste of your time and mines.

    • rembodler says:

      There is certainly some truth to what u r saying. Yes, many SBs who have even a pinch of common sense will erase “Absolutely No Sex!!!” from their profiles once they realize they are not getting any traction. Our fellow blogger, AU!Body is a good example.
      And I agree with Eaine below, about “Toedippers” – some women, especially young ones will walk all the way to the red line and cancel, seemingly without any reason.

      • rembodler says:

        What I meant to also say, women tend to “warm up” to men and become more accommodating as the time goes.
        While men need no such thing normally. They can enjoy themselves on day 1 as well as on day 21…

    • Frank95 says:

      Yes, JayBird, you have nailed two of the sillier things here. Some people really do have comprehension problems, to the point where you wonder if they are able to succeed in real life.

      They seem mostly to be those whose name-calling is something out of second grade, which puts their real life inadequacy past the slightest doubt.

      While it’s too much to hope hor the wit of the likes of Churchill, Disreali, Jim Hightower, Adlai Stevenson, surely the resident name callers can think up something above second grade name calling while flipping the burgers?

      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t be so quick to judge frank. You’re really not that far from senility where you’re going to have trouble comprehending too. Walk the damn mile in his/her shoes you will

  190. Anonymous says:

    He is worth “100 Million” but he is looking for a woman with money. So he is looking for a sugar momma.

  191. Another anonymous says:

    @ Jay

    “If a man wants to bang a young chick and he is given a choice between the chick that does not like him or no such chick at all, he should chose the one that does not.”

    You were shaking your head at this post yesterday. But if you change it into

    “If a girl wants to have an arrangement with a really wealthy and generous guy and she is given a choice between a guy that she does not find attractive or no such guy at all.”

    I can imagine, what you, Kore or Elaine would say about this. But how many girl would go for a really wealthy guy? Majority? Minority?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I don’t think it’s has many as you think or their wouldn’t be so many girls on SA trying to find a way around it… Platonic, online only, findom, rinsing, paid meet and greets, etc.

      • elaine says:

        I think a lot of girls step into the sugar world because they think they can do it.
        But then reality hits and they cancel or abandon their profile:”The Toedippers”

        A part thinks she will be able to get money without touching the guy: “The Platonics”

        Another part can and will do it: “The Escorts”

        A very small will have to do it: “The Desperate”

        And some just stick to guys they find attractive and enjoy the sex: The Sugarbabies”

      • Anonymous says:

        I have more respect for the platonics than those who require sex with a 10 who isn’t even into them. Most of these men are too desperate.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @anonymous you must be a woman otherwise you would understand that “banging is banging” it doesn’t matter if she finds you revolting as long as she lays there and lets you have sex with her.

      • noname says:

        lol elaine thats a very good list and it covers everthing in the sugar bowl

      • Frank95 says:

        I have to disagree elaine.

        The term sugar baby and daddy implies a big age gap. And certainly a lot of the public cases follow that pattern.

        As plenty have observed, it’s unlikely that a young woman would go for such an age difference, except for the benefits.

        But that’s how SB/SDs are defined, not only from a dictionary pov, but also from the pov of the various legal issues. I don’t think you can just try to redefine the term like that.

    • HoustonGirl* says:

      I would pass. I can’t be with someone that I don’t find attractive in one way or another.

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Jay

      Good point about the way around it. I am quite sure many guys would also try to get around paying allowance.

    • ATLSD says:

      I have seen this come up on other blogs. If the money is good, which it should be, she had a few options. Hopefully the guy is clean and neat, that makes it easier. She can blow him and not look up, ask to do it doggy style or play the 50 shades game and asked to be blind folded. All viable options for a big pay day.

      • elaine says:

        C’mon @ATLSD

        You kidding, right? 😉

      • ATLSD says:

        Well think about. A lot of these SB are desperate for a big payday. All she has to do is tell big daddy she’s like it doggy style. Woof woof!!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I think the hardest thing for most of them is the kissing. you can just lay there an not be an active participant during sex but you can’t do that with a kiss. For some reason a lot of SDs seem to enjoy kissing so how does she get around that ATL? :-))

      • elaine says:

        Exactly, THAT’s the word; DESPERATE!

        Every “SD” who is benefitting from desperation, is nothing but a John.

        Every SB who is f*cking men she doesn’t feel any attraction to, just for the big payday, is either desperate or a hooker.

      • ATLSD says:

        He might be ugly but has good teeth and fresh breath. What do most people do when they kiss? Close their eyes. Closed eyes means she could envision kissing Brad Pitt. ( the real one, not the Josh one) BOOM problem solved show her the money.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO :-)thank you oh wise one. sometimes the simplest solution is the right one… just close your eyes ladies

      • ATLSD says:

        K.I.S.S. when kissing. I like things simple, follow my advice and you will succeed in life. ?

    • Fundude says:

      There is no difference between those two positions.

      Good point.

    • SugarD says:

      The thing is ,many men -myself included -can not fathom the possibility that girls of any age wouldn’t find us attractive on multiple levels .

      The only negative I have is age out of many other attributes that girls seek . i.e. Looks, personality, class, intelligence,loving nature ,money. Money depends on their needs and wants ,so I can fail there if a greedy SB wants more than I am willing to pay .

      So I don’t even think about whether I’m her kind of guy . I already know I am .

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LOL So conceit allows you to live in blissful ignorance?

      • elaine says:


        Uhmmm…weren’t you the older guy that banged 3 hot 20 something for free within 48 hours?

        You’e God’s gift to women!



      • SugarD says:

        “weren’t you the older guy that banged 3 hot 20 something for free within 48 hours?”

        Not me Doll-one of our other studs here . But seriously, I think a lot of guys who are players have pretty strong egos–unless they are betacuks. Girls recognize confidence and strength and are turned off by weak smucks -dontcha think ?

      • SugarD says:

        @Jay -if we met the only issue we would have is Money. I don’t think you would go downtown with even me for $200 -or even with Brad Pitt-or Jamie Foxx.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Yes, women are turned off by weak schmucks, and also by arrogant, conceited jerks.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @SugarD money wouldn’t be an issue. I’m more than capable of taking care of myself. You’re right I wouldn’t go with you or anyone else for any amount of money. I’d only go if you met all of my standards. :-))

      • SugarD says:

        @TVC Yes, women are turned off by — arrogant, conceited jerks

        Success breeds confidence T. I am successful in the Sugar Bowl and have confidence that I will continue to do so. I also don’t project an arrogant attitude to my Pot SBs. That is the advantage of an anonymous blog where we can speak our mind without worrying about adverse feedback . What comes out on the blog are real opinions -for better or worse .

  192. Jaybird923 says:

    Ok here’s another interesting one this time from the broke BF…

    “So, I’m 25 and she’s 23..we’ve been together for over a year and we were having some problems recently. About a month or so ago I got on her computer and saw that she had left open a website. The site was some kind of “sugar daddy” website. I didn’t think much of it until a week or so later when I had reason to believe she was seeing someone.

    I confronted her about it and she denied that it was a sugar daddy site, but that she had gone out on a date with someone she met online..but it was strictly just a dinner date and that was that. There were a few instances where I suspected she was out with someone but she only admitted to the one time. Well, I wasn’t convinced. Since then, she has been open with me about everything and she’s gone out a few times with this one guy who paid her $4,000 to hang out a few times a month..which of course, is “our” money.

    I did some more snooping around and it turns out I was right all along. I found a facebook message between her and her best friend..about a month ago (as I suspected) she did meet with a “sugar daddy” and they had sex and he paid her for the night. I think this happened twice. She actually told me about this night but said that it happened a year and a half ago before we started dating. I asked her to come clean with EVERYTHING and gave her the perfect opportunity and she lied.

    Now, she thinks everything is happy and back to normal, but now that I know the truth..I think that was the last straw. She mentioned that the guy from “a year and a half ago” has contacted her about meeting again sometime within the next month.

    Basically, I know what I have to do..but I wanted to get some input/advice/etc. So, what do ya guys think about that one?”

  193. Anonymous says:

    Article well worth a read:


  194. elaine says:

    Catching up with blog, and find this gem:

    “I 100% agree with this. When you need to bang it doesn’t really matter if she likes you or not as long as she lets you do what you want with her body”


    How low must be your selfesteem….
    Or is this just the story of your life and are you used to it?
    Why don’t you go to escorts then? Or buy a fleshlight?

    I am just back from a trip to meet a pot, we started an arrangement and I honestly can’t wait to see him back again asap and jump his bones off!

    Fortunately my SDs are successful men with high self esteem, that would never lower themselves to having sex with women that are not attracted to them.
    As I would never have sex with men I don’t feel attracted to.

    • Anonymous says:

      That shows most men only care about their pleasure, and getting off. Most lack the understanding about caring for the other person’s feelings too. Selfishness is a despicable trait.

      • Elaine says:

        But what kind of pleasure is having sex with someone who finds you revolting? Isn’t sex much more fun when both enjoy and enthusiastically participate? Isn’t one of the main reasons people cheat “feeling wanted again”?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No Elaine you don’t get it and it’s not your fault. I thought the same thing but the nice fellas of the blog spent yesterday
        re-educating me. Banging is banging Elaine as long as she is a 10 it doesn’t matter if she cringes at the thought of you touching her as long as you get to touch her. Does it make sense now?

      • TVC 15 says:

        Many of them seem to think that caring about feelings is a sign of weakness and stupidity.

      • Elaine says:

        Nope @Jay, doesn’t make sense, I still think it is pathetic and sad, sorry! ?

      • Elaine says:

        Oh, and forget to say; It is also an pityfull lack of respect: SELF respect!

      • Kore says:

        Unconditional attraction? 😀

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Elaine maybe I explained wrong. 🙂

      • elaine says:


        No no, you explained very well.
        It must be me….

        The years of having been surrounded by successful people with high self esteem must have narrowed my point of view….

      • noname says:

        elaine there is no pleasure in having sex with someone who finds you revolting it next time if they do im not going to waste my time with women like that

      • elaine says:

        You’re wrong @Noname, ask @Jay to explain it to you too! 😉

    • Kore says:


      “..that would never lower themselves to having sex with women that are not attracted to them.”

      😀 I don’t think most men have the luxury for understanding this.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep Kore because if anything it’s the other way around. Your self esteem has to be very high to be able to do that otherwise you take it “personally”. It actually takes a lot of confidence to sleep with someone who thinks your appauling LOL. Why is that? Because **I** know I’m not appauling and if she’s appauled then that’s her problem and viewpoint not my own

      • Kore says:

        @anon Even if you do take it personally (it would be normal for most people in the face of rejection), it’s important not to show any evidence of it.

        I share similar feelings as Elaine on the matter, actually.

        It’s a matter of self esteem for women as well. If men keep acting like they put ALL pussies on pedestals, the only thing we have left to do is to use it to our advantage, lol…

        It’s a fail – fail actually. :/

      • elaine says:

        I don’t call that high self esteem, I call that lack of selfcritisism….

        C’mon, if you’re an old, fat, or bald SD, wanting to f*ck a good looking 20yo , how big is the chance she finds you even slightly attractive, to not say, revolting?

        So if you find a girl willing to do that, she is either a (semi) pro, desperate or a rinser.
        Good fits for those who just want a female body to unload.

      • Anonymous says:

        There is no rejection though Kore if she’s fucking you LOL. That’s the point here. And yep Elaine all good fits……

  195. sanchez says:

    I have a question.
    So ive meet my SD now twice over the Weekend.
    He is charming and a really nice guy.
    I didnt talk Money because acctually this was not the most important Thing for me,but now i dont know if he will ever give me some sugar.We just stay in the Hotel.Go to restaturants or bars.I want him to take me Shopping.I work really hard and thats why regristed here,to get a lil spoiled.I deledet my account,because he told me i am to good for this site,and he always talks about that seeking isnt really his thang and stuff like that.What should i do ? I like him,but i acc dont want a normal realationship.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Sounds like he has no intention of being a SD. Anytime they start going on about how seeking arrangement isn’t their thing you’re most likely in trouble. But try telling him you saw a pretty dress at whatever store that you really want and see what he says.

    • Anonymous says:

      Scammer alert. Find his name, address or plate number and report him.

    • elaine says:

      This guy wants a girlfriend, not an SB.
      Only in your short post I see already 3 huge red flags.

      So better bring it up now before you get sucked in it too far.

      Tell him SA is not a “normal” dating site, and you are both here for a reason.
      See what his reaction is, if he is just a newbie he will understand the hint and you can talk about further about both your expectations.

      If he is a salt daddy he will play the “I don’t want to pay for sex” and “Are you an escort?” card.
      Then it is time to run.

    • Kore says:

      Why’d you delete your account for someone whom you’ve only met twice?

      If he has respect for you, he also has respect for your choices…

    • TVC 15 says:

      “Seeking isn’t really my thing.” “Gee, I’m sorry to hear it. Nice meeting you, bye!”

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Sanchez

      There is no need to delete your account or to report him. Just ask him upfront about allowance. But already spending a weekend with him in the hotel over the weekend before this was clarified is making your position very difficult.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sanchez reopen your account and ignore his texts. He just wants free fucks. This guy has no intention of giving you shit

  196. Kore says:

    Erm… what are all these long anon posts? @Eloquence or whomever – I get that the SD wasn’t in love with you too, but that can happen out of sugar too.. Just move on.

  197. rembodler says:

    I was always wondering what happened to the yougottabekiddingme….
    I guess now we know.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I don’t think it’s YGTBKM. It doesn’t sound like her ….

    • Anonymous says:

      Most likely it is @Eloquence.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      A little bit off on your assessment, Rem 😉

      I prefer to be an informed poster, and Ive had little time and desire to catch up on the wondrous shit show as of late.

      Probably wouldn’t make much of a difference as there doesnt really seem to be anything new under the sugar sun. Imagine that 😀

      As for Eloquence…

      I think that this space is a double edged sword for her. I think she enjoys reading, sharing and participating, but has also had some unpleasant and perhaps burdensome experiences. It’s nice to think of sugar as all things sweet. While Ive no damning experiences to note, there are certainly other sides to people’s experiences.

      While Eloquence’s posts can be a bit much to sift through, I don’t dismiss all that she says. Further, despite what may be deemed ramblings, it seems evident to me that she is hurt and conflicted. I think there are situations where a little bit of yield is in due order.

      Please leave her alone.

      As for me…

      My year has been off to a busy, productive and adventurous start. Forward motion, good stuff, a couple of set backs, decent recovery, inspiration in unexpected places, a flight here, a flight there, a road trip in between. Apparently, ice cream doesn’t stay frozen in the trunk of a traveling car…even if it’s some degrees below freezing outside. But hey! When life gives you melted icecream, have yourself a milkshake, and call it a party…or stir it into some tea, and call it a latte…or drizzle it over a handsome cock, and call it a cocksicle 😀

      A few new faces around the blog…cheers to that :). Cheers to those who hold down the fort, and may the melted-icecream gods anoint the hell-raisers. Kinda like a milk-bath baptism.

      Uh huh.

  198. Jaybird923 says:

    The Anons have gone feral…

  199. Anonymous says:


    SB’s WAKE UP!!!!!



  200. Anonymous says:

    My flag fly’s, I am a silent sailor from here on out and will never blog or post again. I am done. Deuces. No BS, you people that think I have said this before bc I have, this day, I call and sware, I am done. H

    Hand to the bible. I care less what you speak from here forward. My word, I will never agree, nor conflict again. Give it to em’ folks of the blog,
    and make it happen, daddies.

    Hollar when I am 50.l. ya’ll make the young’uns 50 based on your tiring ass words that would kill any spirit trying, that is, if they believed you. I pray the girls love themselves, more than they love or even agree to your fake ass comments and words that will only hurt them in the long run.

    Fuck ya’ll in your ivory towers of bliss. I pray you get pissed on and griped,, on your doorways with a stench ridden wake up call.

  201. Anonymous says:




  202. Anonymous says:

    Thank you Sa blog.

    For being nothing more than self doubt, Self deprecation, a constant self -evaluation that I was never good enough for the wealthy. Thank you to the blog contributors that always made me feel :les than:, even on my best days, where I would dance around naked in my scantily clad outfit and feel like a sexual vixen. Every time I logged in to SA blog, I was reminded how I would not measure up, even though I am a sarcastic and self confident woman. I was daily beat down from the men here and there no $ offers or the $150.00 offers I would have to accept, that is, if my panties hit the goddamn floor.

    Now, I have stopped reading your blog. I LOVE myself again because, you have fake characters that put NOTHING into the website you promote and to the FACEBOOK account you so solemnly promote. If one was to only read your blog like a word blog from other readers, then they would NEEVR join your subscription base because the word blogs, put your to shame. There is NOTHING here, but ,en dogging women out, ALL, are better to go to match.com outcome versus e-harmony), than to join your mediocre (and I say mediocre based on your blog publicity of what the site has to offer and the advice within). It is sickening and astonishing. Keep making your millions until the wise, wise up and get an education and realize that they can find the “same: elsewhere, with your site, no longer needed. I did.

    And, it is not hard to realize that real mean do not exist on your site, Only the men who fuck in a acar with lights off, johns and the ones police should be looking for.

    • noname says:

      another happy custumer ?

    • FatB'StardSA says:


      Your profile is great but you need better profile pictures. Use a nice face shot for your main picture. Keep the pictures where you are dancing around naked in your scantily clad outfit as a private picture.

      If in doubt always remember Morton’s salt costs more than regular salt.

      Have a nice day :-).

  203. Anonymous says:

    I am out for good and thankful for it. Hollar, you fakers of the blog.

  204. Anonymous says:

    @ Fundud
    Feeling like a part of the group here amid meeting each other, would be orgasmic. It damn sure beats the “Betty White” felling of feeling like some old ass person on a blog that is considered a ” persona”, that never has the privilege of meeting the rest of the bloggers nor the blogettes and I feel like a pure “underpaid”, meaning , “Non-paid” participant. SO I damn sure will not offer up suggestions for fan base, memorabilia, nor how to acquire more funds.

    I ma ill ranked, under-paid and certainly not collecting dividends from this spot. Therefore, I will never, ever, any longer, give you anything of value or tangibility, after today. A man of means can approach me, and I will invest in him. But me investing in this blog, is me having asthma. Every now and again I will breath into this space. Daily, even weekly, has none vanished. Lest, I cause myself to convulse as a seasoned opportunity that I could have directed elsewhere for gain.

    I have struggled for 2 years, financially conversing on this blog and winding up with magicians that showed the word doves and shit in my hand as their magical effect of surprises. I pray they get what they invested and their shit multiplies as a mound, one in which, no one can hide their stench.

  205. keiti says:

    And I thought this is drama free site 😀

  206. Fundude says:

    Leader of military says we will have to draft women into the army and sign up for selective service


    Fuck yeah! Equality bitches!

  207. Fundude says:

    Vegan Gains rips feminist a new asshole:


    • Anonymous says:

      @ Fundud

      Go find a new asshole to crawl into and speak Greek and roll it around on your tongue, until you find the fun in it. Better yet…Call yo0ur young blonde and get her to sex text you, Facetime you with her body and lure you, you know, to her whims of nature until you both get off while on the phone and not on the blog.

      High roller, do you not have this ability? If not, I suggest you start bank rollin’ your blonde to get you rolling on the right path. Exit? Oh yeah bro, it is the door to your left, and the rest of us, we roll to the right. Right on track here.

      • Fundude says:

        you mad ladyscarlett/tvc?

      • Anonymous says:

        You apparently have no clue who I am. I am like “Rain man” my friend. I am the one you least expect and count “out” like an underdog that has no chance ever. Then, when you least expect it, I have a full-house, all aces, and I take home the winnings every time.

        I am not mad at you “fundud”, Have I ever had casual drinks with you, so that I could casually “get off” on the en-counter itself? you tell me.

        There is always this year or next year to make that happen. In the interim, if your blonde SB is giving you a vanilla lifestyle then you might ant to go for coffee, caramel, vanilla bean, anything, my dear friend, other than the quoted “pure vanilla” because it is all artificial flavoring.

      • Anonymous says:


      • Fundude says:

        Cool story.

        Going to make more fake profiles of me too?

      • Anonymous says:

        Could be @Eloquence.

  208. Sugar Baby says:

    Hello~ I’m a Sugar virgin and finally finished my profile! Could someone please help me out with any feedback or tips? I would really appreciate the help ;3; My pictures are still pending and hopefully they’ll be visible soon 🙂

  209. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Silly Jay (see second time in a day)

    Yes that attempt to lecture you was good. We need fun here. 🙂

  210. n0name says:

    Mind, the “caring guy” has to care really well in a practical sense and perhaps they didn’t …. these days they pass wasting your time on stuff they should hire a qualified counselor for as “caring” … really an odd outing or a shopping trip is not the same as providing real security…. in fact people who describe functions attendance and travel as “perks” arrrgggh [email protected]_QL#!! There was a famous court case which very much changed the law of marriage settlements here which turned on how much time wife had to spend on socialising basically

  211. rembodler says:

    Have you considered that some of these stories could be happening in her mind? When she is sitting in front of her computer, with two empty Doritos bags, an ice cream can and still plenty of Smurnoff in her glass?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      lol These are from different sources on different websites. I have no idea if they are real or not but I have no reason to believe they aren’t.

      There are plenty of women who pass on the nice guy who cares for them for the hot guy who treats them like shit. So I don’t find it to hard to believe she would sabotage what she has for an old high school crush.

      • Real SD says:

        That hot High School crush will eventually get old, become bald, and grow a beer gut. The question is, as his looks go south, will his income and net worth go north? Being young and hot is temporary. Compounded interest is forever.

      • rembodler says:

        I do not question that there could have been champagne.
        Just that in some of these stories Korbel easily becomes Dom Perignion…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        The thing I love about the whole story is she’s willing to throw everything she has away for a high school crush she reconnected with TWO months ago and saw six times. She’s in love with him and wants to have his babies and marry him. How much do you want to bet he never said or did anything to lead her to believe he wants the things with her?

      • rembodler says:

        Maybe she likes to think how little all the riches of the world mean to her compared to LUVVVe… Real LUVVVe…

      • Frank95 says:

        Dom Perignon.

        Just sayin’.

        Or are they Chinese knockoffs you’re drinking? 🙂

      • Jaybird923 says: