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Getting Started On SA For Sugar Babies
  • Posted Sep 19, 2016


For all the Sugar Baby newbies, we want to help optimize your user experience on SeekingArrangement. Before you begin your search, check out the fundamentals below to learn all about getting started on SA for Sugar Babies.

How to report

Nothing can sour your search quite like an inappropriate user. So first and foremost, we want to stress the importance of reporting members who abuse the site. From crude or threatening messages, to inappropriate behavior (like degrading comments), we ask that you report these accounts so our team can thoroughly investigate.  

To report a member, simply click on the icon as shown below and report and/or block the member. Our support team will be notified immediately and begin a thorough investigation. Be as thorough as possible.

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How to get your profile approved faster

As soon as you sign up for an account, you can immediately begin browsing member profiles. However, as every account must be verified in order to prevent bots or dummy accounts, it can take up to 24 hours for your profile to be approved. So while you can browse, communication will not be possible until your account has been vetted and approved on our end. You can help us help you by doing the following which will speed up the approval process:

  • Upgrade to Premium Account
  • Complete your profile
  • Activate your email address

How to search

Your first handful of visits to the site can be overwhelming as there are Sugar Daddies and Mommies that fit any mold. To lock in profiles that meet your standards and expectations, it’s important to know exactly what you’re looking for in an arrangement. What factors matter to you: distance, age, ethnicity, lifestyle expectation, single, etc.? Once you identify your needs, utilize the search tools! Our advanced search options allow SBs to locate members based on distance, age, income, account types (background verified, photos,), how active a member is – you can even narrow your search to only view profiles that have favorited yours.


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314 Responses to “Getting Started On SA For Sugar Babies”

  1. Veronica says:

    I’m totally new to this site.
    I’m being asked by potential SDs what is my financial requirement per “meet”….is there an average rate? Does it change according to their expectations? I’m being asked a lot and don’t know what to say yet!

    • whatawebsite says:

      Guys hitting you up on a per “meet” basis is like hitting you up for escort services. The standards for that range from $200 – $500+ an hour. For 200, a dinner that ends non-sexually is reasonable. For a 500 visit that involves a hotel room… bring a condom.

      Not every SD is thinking P4P (pay for play, i.e. he gives you money, you give him honey), but if you’re getting hit up like that, it sure sounds like it.

  2. Natalya Harris says:

    Looking for a friend with benefit. I very pretty have a nice body. Looking for a gentleman to wine & din me. I’m funny, loveable, sweet, kind, caring, compassionate, open minded, needs a gentleman to be willing to experience sexually, romantic and I want to be treated like a queen. I will definitely make a turn on then he’ll like a king. You must definitely know that I am a Lady and I must be treated like a Lady & a Queen. I am very spontaneous I love to be treated and pamper and I will definitely do my part when I come for pampering him

  3. Anonymous says:

    Omg, I just read the LetsTalkSugar email that was sent out today, written by Fallon.
    Definitely a great resource! Excellent advice.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Hello!! Sugar-daddy seeks a sincere and honest babe. Text me on here. +13237612834

  5. carolyn mathis says:

    I’m currently looking for a sugar daddy

  6. Anonymous says:

    Is there a ‘going rate’ around here? Because all of my offers seem to be more or less the same, and my SB gfs are being paid the same rate… just wondering if everyone is averaging around 500 a meet up???

  7. Anonymous says:

    Two Q’s: 1.How does the age of sugar babies break down? Are there men actually looking for girls over 21? In their mid/late 20s or even older???? I saw a couple profiles of babies in their mid 30s and wondered if anyone would be interested?
    2. Having written a bunch of dating site profiles before, I keep having to remind myself this is different. What do these guys want to know “about me?” Hobbies? Personality? Chest size? What do I include/leave out compared to a reg. dating profile. Also, how about what I’m “looking for?” Can I write that I like to talk about money as little as possible, that I’m not looking for a transaction but a unique relationship? That I don’t want a guy more than 100 lb overweight? Again, should I talk about personality type? Should I get sexual (“I’m looking for a guy who has a med size c***, likes to please his woman, watch me with another girl, and never try to put it up my a**.” LMAO but u know what I’m saying).

    • whatawebsite says:

      1 – I personally have my search list broken into two groups: teens (18-19) and 20somethings (20-29). I’m not looking for a SB around my age (30+).

      2 – I personally don’t view at this place like a dating website. I do like to read a playfully written, up-front profile. I usually send an Interest. If she at least views my profile, I might message then go from there.

  8. Is there a market for women in their mid to late 40s? Maybe my profile is all wrong or maybe I am just too old. I feel I have alot more sophistication and know how than the average sugar baby just bc of my life experiences, but I’ve been on this sight a while and have yet to have an arrangement. Am I wasting my time? advice/comments welcomed!

  9. Emily says:

    Is 30 too old?

  10. Anonymous says:

    Would joining this as a virtual SB be pointless?

    • whatawebsite says:

      I know camgirls who keep virtual SDs happy via snapchat or instagram (for low spenders) and skype (for big spenders). I’m not sure that this place would have a large enough audience to make that viable.

  11. M says:

    I am just starting out as a SB, I just want to ask if everyone is required to put in their address and social? I am just a little concerned of my information getting out, but without that I can’t create an account right?

  12. Willing says:

    I was on SA about 5 years ago and got good results. The people on here now are new (I don’t see anyone who was on SA when I was here before) and I have noticed a big difference. The ladies on here now seem to be looking for rich, young, good-looking guys who are willing to pay them for casual meetings in public places (arm candy) with no physical contact, or who want a cyber-relationship. Ladies: rich, great-looking young men don’t need this site. They can find what they want very easily with no help from the internet. You aren’t going to find Denzel Washington or Brad Pitt on here giving gifts and money to young ladies who live in another part of the country. Has anyone else experienced what I’m talking about? Any thoughts?

    • whatawebsite says:

      I’m a SD, new to this site but not new at all to being a SD. Every cute 18-22 I message is either a ‘ho (replies with $$ /hour expectations and a hotel room), or ignores me, or is polite but tells me I’m too old to hook up with.

      I do appreciate a polite “No”. I didn’t go to Match.com though… I came here because I’m seeking an arrangement with a young hottie.

      If I were young & rich, I wouldn’t have time to create a profile here. I’d be hosting my own private version of “The Bachelor” at my house every weekend.

  13. Ko says:

    I have updated my profile since signing up a week ago, buthave had no real luck finding a real sd. I started talking to someone, but he asked for my bank info before even meeting me, and I declined, so he stopped talking to me. Am I doing anything wrong? I have several pictures of myself. I’m still young (26), and definitely not ugly. I’m not seeking to get money for every date or meeting I have. I want to finish my degree, and hope to get some help with a few bills. I don’t know, I may not stay long from what I’ve seen.

  14. Anon2 says:

    Recently I have found many girls on SA who already has a BF but on SA to find a platonic SD! Get real!!!

    Some girls have a substantial budget for a platonic SD and also, some want a mentor and platonic relationship but want to get paid. WTF???

  15. New says:

    Hi everyone

    I’m not in the US. Have recently done my profile.
    Am talking to a number of potential SD’s.

    However, I don’t have my face shown on the photos. Most of them are happy to meet and see me.
    But one of them is really keen on seeing my face and is asking for a face photo non stop.

    Is it wrong that I don’t want to put my face on the website? Or share it until I feel comfortable with the other person?

    Thank you

    • Anonymous says:

      No, you are not wrong. But neither is he; many SBs show their face and he can decide to go with them if he wants and you can wait to meet someone who will be patient with you, too. My only concern with what you said is that he’s asking ‘non-stop.’ Sounds like disrespectful behavior and a red flag.
      Pushy SDs get off on making SBs squirm; trust me, they make horrible bedfellows.
      Just wait for a respectable SD instead. You’re fine.

  16. AnotherPost2016 says:

    Why is everyone so hung up on seeing all sorts of pictures?? Before you berate me with answers of “Men are Visual Creatures” I do understand that. However, my point is that anyone can post a pic of anyone that is not necessarily themselves. What you see is not always what you get, that being a 2 edged sword. Sometimes pictures may not be of the person in profile, they may be years old, altered, etc. Having said that, there are times when the person looks much better in person than they do in pics. They may not be photogenic. It happens a lot. My point being, if the profile bio intrigues you, give them a chance. You may be more surprised,in a good way, than you may think. Open your minds!! This goes both for SD’s and SB’s.

    • Anonymous says:

      I put up 6 pics on my profile- 3 show front, 2 side profile and one back. Full length.
      In jeans and top that shows waist and shapes nicely around bust. No nudes, no cleavage or extra. When someone asks for a pic, I point out I have 6 up and if they want to see more, they can set up a meet and greet.
      All reasonable SDs respect boundaries and set up dates. 6 is overkill, even 4 full length is more than enough.
      If you are super sexy, add a few non nude lingerie(cute camisole or neglige)pics in the private album- but I would definitely blur your face on those, lest they get out into the public

  17. E says:

    New to this and not sure what to write about myself, I listed one or two of my favorite activities but I’m not sure..It seems like on most SD’s pages they have PARAGRAPHS and I just have a few sentences? What can I add?

    • Latin SB says:

      If you study/work, what is it you study or work as (I only mention the field of work), what do you expect from a Daddy but not what amount, ever. Also, what can you offer to your Daddy, why would you be the best Baby for him. That is the most important of all; they getting a glimpse as to what to expect from you and how interesting can you be.

      • E says:

        Thank you! I appreciate it c: Most of that stuff is already on there, so I guess I’ll just see 😮 Also, I had a question about safely receiving allowances? Where would be the best place to find information on that?

      • Latin SB says:

        The forums have a lot of articles talking about safe ways to do things -you name it and it is there-. I go for cash, or paypal. But make sure not to be on some payroll, and that the money is transferred by the “send money to a friend” method. That way they cannot take it back and hurt you. Never give them your financial info; only scammers ask for it

      • Latin SB says:

        The forums have a lot of articles talking about safe ways to do things -you name it and it is there-. I go for cash, or paypal. But make sure not to be on some payroll, and that the money is transferred by the “send money to a friend” method. That way they cannot take it back and hurt you. Never give them your financial info; if they ask for it, that is a huge red flag.

    • Alternatedating says:

      venmo is a good option

      • E says:

        Thank you both! I had an SD ask for my information and when I wouldn’t give it to him he got offended and I’m just sitting here like “Sorry, it’s just security” and then he stopped talking to me so.. even though it was through text should I report him?

      • Anon2 says:

        If a SB asks to pay through Venmo or if a SD wants bank account info, they are all fakes!

    • Alternatedating says:

      No guy with any sense is going to send you money up front. Go to coffee or lunch. Figure out an arrangement. Never get into an arrangement with someone you don’t trust. I think venmo is pretty safe. But then I’m the guy sending money and perhaps there is some scam with venmo that I’m not aware of. I do know of a scam generally where people write checks for more thna you agree on and want cash back … then the checks bounce and you’re stuck.

  18. Mel says:

    Hi, I am new to this. I have some SD who’ve asked me out on dates… Should I be expecting for the date to be paid an some other money or just the date paid?

    • Rick says:

      You should probably not expect to be paid for the meet and greet, that’s akin to the SD asking to “sample the goodies”. He’s taking you out and you can judge him by the sort of place he takes you.

    • Latin SB says:

      Some get paid on the meet & greet, some don’t. It depends on what did you agree to first. I got paid for my meet & greet, and also got a very expensive gift, plus an offer to take me shopping but I declined. It all depends on the daddy. You can and should discuss it on the meeting, all in a polite, not entitled way.

    • Anonymous says:

      My profile states I get gift or my ride paid for Meet & Greet. I’ve gotten anywhere from $20-$300. One guy brought me a scented candle because I told him I liked Jasmine scented candles, another roses. You can put it on your profile.

    • Anonymous says:

      I get paid, too. It’s on my profile now, but prior to adding it, most SD over 40yr would just tip me anyway for M&G. I added it when I started dating 20 & 30yr olds.

  19. Serenity says:

    Hi I’m 26 and trying out the SB life for the first time and I am not sure how to put myself out there to be noticed. I have a few intrested but nothing more than that. Any advice

    • Anon2 says:

      I hate to say this but it is so true but you have to post your real pictures. Your pictures will attract the type of men you seek based on what and who you seek. Also, be specific in what type of an arrangement relationship you seek. This is all about being honest and upfront.

      If you are seeking married men, mention that. If you are not, then be specific. Also, if you don’t want pay for play like a lot of guys are suggesting, then mention that in your profile. If you like intelligent men, mention that and sound like you can hold a conversation. A true millionaire will want to talk about life in general and not just jump in the sack!

  20. Charlie says:

    Is it possible to upgrade to premium account using a prepaid card ?

    • Anon2 says:

      Yes! Register your prepaid debit card with a full name and address with the provider of the prepaid card. You still go through the same process. You should read the prepaid debit card agreement in how that works.

  21. Alternatedating says:

    From the SD perspective, please make your profile genuine and don’t use pictures from the internet. Nothing good can come from lying about your situation or interests or using a fake picture which we easily find.

    • EyesOnU says:

      Totally agree, AlternateEnding. But I have found daddies downloading images from Google and using them as profile pics… For example, this guy’s pic of a man swinging at the golf field looked weird. I went to Google and searched “man playing golf” and Voilá!!! “his” pic came up. So, it goes both ways.

  22. Tokki says:

    Hi everyone, I’m a pretty new SB and am only having SDs view and favorite me but very little direct messages. Can anyone please take a look at my profile and offer constructive feedback. Much appreciated!


    • Rick says:

      You list your Expectations as Substantial, that’s 60K-120K a year. There are very few, and I mean VERY FEW, men that can afford that allowance. And even fewer who would be willing to invest that much for a playmate.

      If that’s what you require, hold out for it. But understand that is the reason why you’re getting virtually no response.

      • Anon2 says:

        Rick, there might be a few men like me who can afford that allowance but the woman/lady/girl has to be educated, classy, sexy, beautiful and able to hold a very good conversation and also be able to please me. I believe there are true millionaires who can afford that budget and spend another $100k for travel and gifts per year!

        And I believe many MARRIED men will spend a higher amount of money to be more discreet. So girls, if you don’t mind a married man, he will spend money to maintain your silence from the guy’s wife.

    • Alternatedating says:

      In addition to Rick’s comments, I lived in the NYC area for several years before moving to the flyover country. I would never use this site if I lived in NYC. There are at least three college educated attractive single women in NYC for every single guy. It’s very easy to date smart and attractive women in their 20’s who are happy to date older guys who can carry on intelligent conversations, go to nice restaurants, and take weekend trips. I don’t see too many women in NYC on this site that I have emailed get off the site. Also, there are a lot of fake profiles on this site and while your profile uses NYC a couple of times, it looks fakish to me. Talk about the areas and things in NYC that you like that are less generic.

    • EyesOnU says:

      Change your expectation to “negotiable”. And let them make you offers, and answer them with what you desire. You will meet halfway in the end, and they will be more inclined to pay it because they met you already, if you have the conversation on your first meeting.

  23. The guys on here are not willing to meet because I’m an hour or more away.. What’s the problem if deducting from allowance. . I don’t understand what I’m suppose to be doing besides .. What I’m doing..Lol .. any comments on how I can get out there more..

    • EyesOnU says:

      That is just their silly excuse. But try to find guys from your own city, or find the way to travel to the city the potential daddies are from. If they really want to meet you anyways, they will go to you no matter what. Otherwise, maybe it is all about what they like vs what you look like. So, like I said before, silly excuses.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with EOU, except for the “silly excuse ” reasoning.

      They obviously have closer options. Many don’t have the time to travel far, unless discretion deems it necessary.
      If they live near a college
      campus, good luck getting them
      to venture further, lol.

      It could take a few years. Try to let them know if you will be in their area, IF you can afford to be stood up.

  24. No Longer Eeyore says:

    Hello all!
    As a 54 year old woman seeking adventure, companionship, intelligent discourse Ian’s loads of fun, have I wasted my
    Time and money putting a SB profile on here? I have had views but no messages on my profile. Help fellow sb’s.
    And SD’s…please help me tweak my profile to reflect my desires and attributes!

    • Alternatedating says:

      Not to be difficult but … what is your realistically ideal situation from this site compared to what you might find on Match.

      Anytime I have swapped emails on here with women over 30 or so, they seem to have extremely high expectations compared to someone younger and better educated.

    • Cub401 says:

      helllo message me we can meet up. im a 23 year old male sugar baby! Also will travel to whereever you buy me a ticket. 🙂

  25. No Longer Eeyore says:

    Help! I just signed up seeking an adult mutually beneficial relationship with an educated and adventurous man. I am single, live in my own home and am over 50. I have had lookers but no messages. Did I just waste time and money on this site?

  26. Anonymous says:

    Hi all! Very interested in having some constructive feedback for my profile. It’s persephoneunbound. Thanks to all — a kind sort of honesty is most appreciated!

  27. Anonymous says:

    Hi all! Very interested in having some constructive feedback for my profile. Thanks to all — a kind sort of honesty is most appreciated!

  28. Anonymous says:

    Why are so many girls just writing “null” as their heading? What does that mean in this context? Oh,and now even the over-35s are using dog noses and ears and yellow butterflies around their heads. What makes anyone think that’s attractive to a SD?

  29. lunaaroo says:

    Okay, can someone help me with some advice?
    I’ve been on here for a while and I have absolutely no problem with getting men to set up times to meet. Although, I feel like I need to tell them in advanced I’m not very “experienced” and would need someone open and willing to teach me a few things. That being said, as soon as I say that, the first meeting turns into something with more expected to it.. Which isn’t what I want. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not delusional and don’t expect someone to give me a dime unless something is being mutually offered as well but I just want to make sure that there’s potential for some compatibility with no strings attached. Like a part time boyfriend with no commitment. Also, should I just tell them upon meeting that I’m not very experienced, ect? I don’t want to waste anyone’s time. Also, I am a bit on the heavier side which, thus far hasn’t been a problem. Help??

    • Natalie says:

      Lunaaroo, something that has worked for me is setting up the first meeting as a lunch or midday introduction. It seems to have more of a meet-and-greet feel than does an after hours appointment. I suppose it may be psychological that a dinner and/or drinks introduction is prone to more trouble than it’s worth in terms of unspecified expectations.

  30. iam a sugar baby looking for one sugar daddy in the san francisco bay area

  31. Anonymous says:

    OK, ladies, it is not a good idea to ask for a commitment for an allowance before you have even met. Imagine if an SD asked for explicit sex acts at that time? You have NO IDEA yet if you will get along or be repulsed. There’s no way you would commit that early.

    We’re the same – we’re not able to be an SD by just giving money away, without knowing even how it will be used. I’m not about, for example, going to fund someone’s drug habit, or pay for their lottery tickets.

  32. luci74 says:

    I like to meet someone for relationship and help me economically

  33. sunshine0921 says:

    i met a guy and we were chatting for almost a week now,.. and i do really like him,.. but when i open my SA today after work i cant reply on his messages anymore,.. im sure his account isnt deactivated because i can still see his display picture on his message. i was thinking if he blocked me or his account is suspended..?

    • Anonymously says:

      I feel the same

      • Haha says:

        I deactivate my account for long periods especially when I have so much commitment and that certainly would cause that. Could be a timing issue, your POT could be busy.

    • R R says:

      If there really was some connection then he is an idiot for not letting you know what is going on. It’s just common courtesy. Your best course is to move on. If he comes back he’d better have a pretty good excuse for ghosting b/c if he is incapable of such an easy, common courtesy then he will be a bad SD.

  34. KevinSeeks says:

    I have recently joined SA a few days ago and since have uploaded a few public and private pictures along with some public pictures. I also took the time to fill out the my profile without spamming too much nonsense in it. I am a male in his early twenties seeking arrangement with an older woman. Despite that I haven’t had much luck nor has anyone responded to me that they aren’t interested. I’m wondering if my account feels like a scam to some simply because i take the first step to message them an initial message stating my interest. Truth be told I’m not so sure I may keep my account active for long if this goes on with no activity. I’d appreciate any advice i can get from the SA community. Am i out of luck and wasting my time or should i give it a few days?

  35. shara says:

    EVERY SINGLE sugar daddy that I start talking to tells me that he needs my account information so that way he can start putting me on weekly allowances. Am I supposed to trust them with that? None of them will try to send me money another way, or pay in cash. Are these scammers? Please help, I am really new that this.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t do it its a total SCAM the same thing happened to me a few times , and I didn’t give them my personal bank account information

      • newtothis says:

        3 men have asked which bank I have so they can deposit money in it. Is this a scam???

      • Brian says:

        There is a limit on how much anyone can take out of their bank in cash to support a monthly arrangement without the bank being obligated to report the transaction to the government (currently $10k with movement towards $5k). I’ve done inter-banks transfers very successfully in the past. Low risk for me, low risk for my SB. Not everyone on here is a scammer!

    • simon says:

      Hello, have you had time to really get to know by talking on the phone and seeing a cam? it shows whether you are dealing with an imaginary person. Why not a real organiszer appointment before giving your bank details?

    • Brian says:

      Shara – it’s not a total scam. As a SD, I’m not going to walk around with tons of cash to hand over to my SB. Banks now report major cash withdrawals under anti-identity theft provisions, so the risk of discovery is too high. Many high net worth people have accounts that are set up such that transferring money directly into someone else’s personal account is quick, easy and safe. I’m certainly not suggesting there aren’t many crooks on this site, but not everyone who suggests it is a scammer either.

    • Anon2 says:

      SCAM!!! The first month should be given in cash until both parties are comfortable and confident to give out that info.

  36. MickyLinton says:

    What is starting to really get annoying though are all the male scammers. There has been a point or two now where I will have a period of a week or two of just scammers trying to contact me and get my information.

  37. anonymous says:

    It would be nice to know what SA would do with the men on here who scam, steal, or get abusive.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Men here are married and old, and extremely ugly… totally disappointed of people here…They waste time and waste my time also

    • cali dan says:

      Who cares if they are married? Does that mean their money won’t spend? See, a lot of SB have this problem.. they are looking for the golden goose.. marriage. Yeah, no thanks.

    • doug says:

      Duh! You’re totally on the wrong site if you’re looking for single good looking younger men.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      F–k you on here complaining for? Go find another site. By the way ladies, the approach of this woman here? That’s exactly how you do NOT approach the men on here. This is the quick path to loneliness.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      After re-reading this comment, I honestly don’t believe this is a woman. I sincerely believe that this is a guy, more than likely a younger, jealous, broke guy in his 20’s (younger & broke being the key descriptions) saying insulting things just to get the older guys on here riled up. Think about it for a second……what woman who is trying to give men “a good impression” would say such highly insulting things? Like I pointed out on another board discussion on here, there’s quite a few spam/phantom profiles not only on here, but on ALL online dating websites……..I sincerely believe that this comment, and others are made by spammers or non-users who just want to come up on here and insult people……simply because they’re jealous.

    • Wtky8142 says:

      Hi Anonymous – First let me apologize to the established blog members here. In situations like this I usually prefer to remain quiet, listen and learn. Rather than disrupt the sharing of information by those that much more experience than I do. Anonymous, so you know I am old, I am married. But I am not, at least from what my mother tells me extremely ugly. She did try to switch me with another baby at the hospital but too many new mothers.were watching. So I prefer the word half ugly. But I will have to possibly accept that I might have a Extremely incompetent view of the world, please tell me again why a SB takes money, gifts, housing, Amazon cards and even the occasional African Kugeron (list includes but is not limited to the items previously listed) from a SD if not to overlook his flaws. How did I get it so wrong in thinking no one should have to sell there self respect for money (SB). Nor as a SD that I should have to jump through hoops to try and buy it from you. Anonymous, ever think one of might be standing on the wrong street corner. I admit it could be me – no one ever said I was extremely smart. By I was fortunate to find some romance this weekend. Must of been a lark!!

    • I've been everywhere says:

      Rich, single, handsome, charming young men can get chicks for free. Why do you think we pay you? Pick one and make a deal.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do you make it sound like only men who can’t get company without money are SDs on this site? That’s quite untrue. Many SDs are able to “get chicks for free”, but still look for arrangements because they have their distinct advantages.

        I say this as a rich, single, handsome, charming young man. Well, okay, I was kidding about the rich part, I’m just moderately well-off.

    • Anon2 says:

      To the original post, maybe you do not have the looks for a more middle aged men with money! Just saying!

      I saw a profile of a 33 year who is seeking a SD who is 25-35 year old. Good luck finding a millionaire at 25 is seeking a 33 year old!

    • Anida Coffee says:

      I don’t mind the man being married this means he will be discrete. I live with my sister and she is very nosy, and if he is already married he isn’t going to want marriage. I been there done that and don’t want to do it again.

  39. Anonymous says:

    I’m new to all this, I just signed up to the site last night. However what is it with most of the SDs who have contacted me having absolutely nothing on their profiles? They all send me a phone number because they want to start texting…Why would I send my phone number to someone I know absolutely nothing about? I’ve edited my profile to say I do not want to be contacted by anyone who has not taken time to fill out their profile. It did not help which tells me they are not reading mine. What am I doing wrong?

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      Yeah……I don’t think you’re necessarily doing anything wrong, you just have to understand the dynamics of what this website attracts. According to SA’s own company spokesperson, their own statistics show that between 40% & 50% of the men on this site are married. So that tells you right off the bat that many of the men on here are determined to remain “anonymous”, and for good reason. So from there you have to make your own mind up regarding whether or not you want to get involved with a man who may be married. Now I’m not knocking you either way if you don’t mind him being married. Truth be told? While there haven’t been many, I HAVE read the profiles of a few women on here who say that they have no problem with their SD being married. So I don’t knock you one way or the other if that works for you. If you have a problem with that though you should say so in your narrative. Other than that? You may want to be a little more flexible on allowing him to not have a photo on his profile. Quite a few women on here have pics up where they show their body but not their face. Then they’ll show you their face in their “private photos”, or they’ll show you their face when they text you “more revealing” photos. You can easily just request him to text you pics of him. Nothing wrong with being flexible when it comes to that. But again, if you’re not down with dealing with any married men, then say that in your profile. That may not scare off “all” married men, cause there’s always gonna be a man or 2 who thinks he’s slick enough to get away with being “anonymously married”……….but it’ll scare off most of the married men if you say you’re not interested in that.

  40. anonymous says:

    I have been here 3 weeks and i still don’t really have my luck here, i putted up photos and made my about me & what i am looking for long and clear (already gave up) My message isn’t working either… i am a young 20 year old woman and i just wanna live my life to the fullest! is there maybe anything else i need to do on my profile or is it just better to stop and close/deactivate my profile..?

    • Steve says:

      Most people who are disappointed are disappointed because there profiles are not setup to attract the person they want, and they end up being bait for bottom feeders. I have several friends write profiles, and they are rarely disappointed. One poster here mentioned the number and texting issue with blank daddy profiles. A blank daddy profile is trouble and should be avoided. A phone number and a desire to text is a way so they do not have to pay 50 bucks to be here. Hardly an advertisement for the right guy.

      • Wtky8142 says:

        Speaking of phone numbers and e-mails planted in the profiles. Anyone ever notice that on the SB ones there almost always Gmail addresses? I thought it was a scam or the LE Guy trolling. But If it just the ladies trying to save money I got some catching up to do. 🙂

    • ana says:

      hony I have almost a year, I texted some guys that don’t even answered me

    • Sexykat says:

      How can I find a sugar babe mentor? I’m not good with words to formulate a plan to outline an arrangement. What to say to attract, set limits or expectations,to attract. To be honest,and open and give a direct understanding?

    • pops says:

      I am new to this site. how do I access your profile?

  41. Steve says:


    The trick with this site is, a) a good, well written, descriptive bio that pushes away bad eggs and lets the good eggs know what you want, b) a selection of good photographs that present you as a person of quality, c) and a security plan to assure that the daddies you meet and get to know are top shelf. One poster here says no money to start no money ever is probably correct. Money is, despite this idea, not everything and many of my connections have no money involved, but money is a gauge of serious intent. You should find a mentor (male or female) and someone to write your bio, plus adopt the key safety rules for meetings and your experience will be much better,

  42. Anonymous says:

    Hi girls,
    I’m a little bit skeptical about posting a wishlist for my SD to see, I don’t them to think I’m in it for the purely materialistic aspect. What is everyone’s view on it, yay or nay?

    • Kindred Spirit says:

      It may as well not exist, for the response I get to mine. To be fair, though, I never expected any response to it so the gift list has fully met my expectations. Lol

    • Steve says:

      Kindred Spirit,

      I have in my three times on this site found a lot of friends, many of which are babies (although not my babies). A wish list is no substitute for a good biography, which attracts the right daddy (and deflects at least some of the wrong ones) who will then not need a wish list because you will tell them what you need in person. 90% of the catfish and failed attempts I have heard of can be traced to this one problem. If you cannot write well, and do not know the tricks, then simply find a friend who does. I actually write my bio to reduce the number of messages and to get just the ones I need, and it works well. I also write my friends bios for them after we discuss the truth of what they want out of this site.


      • Kindred Spirit says:


        Yep, I agree with you on all your points! To reiterate, I don’t take the SA wish list concept too seriously, and so have had no expectations to it ever being fulfilled or even viewed. That said, it was still a little fun to go in and note a few gift ideas. Why? Well, if someone who found me mutually awesome (AFTER having met) wanted to surprise me with a treat, he’d have a little list already in place in which to do so! 🙂
        A $25 pet-store gift card showing up in my mailbox/in-box would rock my world, for example. And gifting such “delights” are at his own discretion and interest, of course. The way I see it, SA put this feature on its site as simply another fun option for users, take it or leave it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Help me right mine!!!

      • natasalapasha says:

        Hi will you be kind enough to look at my profile and advice as no luck so far

    • Anonymous says:

      I do not see myself, as a SD, giving a gift from the wishlist to a SB whom I have not met in person. What kind of a message will I be sending if not that of desperately trying to buy her attention? But that is just me.

  43. Kristie Lee Bowman says:

    Hi there! I am a 35 year old mother of three that is branching out into a new phase of my life. I am looking for sincere companionship for dinner,, movies, wine, travel, long weekends at home, camping, just spending time together and getting to know each other. I am a wonderful listener, I am a pianist, love spending time alone at this time in my life. I am outgoing, but am happy to stay at home. I love watching the starts, romantic evenings, im very empathetic, sympathetic, and very much wanting to start a new chapter, no matter how it ends up. Im moving on to a new chapter in my life. my children are older and self sufficient and im ready to start a new chapter and see where it leads. Please let me know if you want the same things. Id love to hear from you.

  44. Kristie Lee Bowman says:

    I am a loving, kind, giving, fun, attractive, 35 year old Licensed Realtor, who is looking for someone to spend time with. Go to dinner, movies, hang out and talk and build a friendship and see where that goes over time. I an a wonderful listener and am willing to be here to talk and support you. All I want is someone to treat me the way Ive never been been treated. With respect, chilvalry. I want to be treated like gold and I will do the same for you. I love to travel! I also love to just sit at home, drink good wine, and talk or not talk. I have a lot of life experience with children, ex spouses, and am an wonderful person to lend an ear to. Please contact me and we can further discuss what other options are available. I am looking for legit companionship and demand to be treated with respect at all times. I will treat you like my prince if you treat me like your princess.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Seek out help from your fellow sugar sisters!

  46. rebecca underwood says:

    I thought I was meeting the man of my dreams and it was a bad check and now I owe money. thanks a lot.

  47. happygirl says:

    i am a SB (Sugar Baby)And joined i joined a week already And i met someone who really fitted my type of profile! But the problem is that the messenger is not working, does that mean something or is the messenger for premium members only?

  48. mrdiscretion says:

    going to reiterate girls see money before they believe _anything_. if you don’t care about money, great. if you do, and you don’t see it, it is because you won’t.


    the cons are costing the site sign ups. in my area there are fewer every day. look at messages on here. there’s a guy here contacting every girl with a 6K a month offer, he scares them by saying he’s an attorney and if they take cash they’re soliciting, and sleeps with those that believe him long enough.

    they leave the site. the pickings get slimmer and lower class. i think this site needs better weeding out of men, or maybe just a better competitor. ‘confirmed men of means’ with ratings. because the honest ones of us have to hear about the cons and borderline rapes. i mean sailboat alone, wine, wine, wine, more wine, wake up and no pay? bad idea girl yes, but the guy shouldn’t be on the site in the first place.

    maybe there is another site with more safeguards. i like a fertile field of happy girls, not girls with darting eyes texting someone every 15 mins that they’re ok. i think the quality, at least in my area, is dropping. fast.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes SB problems are mounting. I’ve been on SA one year. The number of young woman who cannot post a description and communicate is lower by the month. First communicate ladies, then do so in adult fashion with proper English. Keep a message conversation going. This shows respect and interest. Politely end things if you are not interested. The gals who message for 10 minutes and show interest, only to totally disappear is terrible. Raise your efforts!

    • Anon says:

      Can I ask you some advice please??

  49. Jane Doe says:

    I’ve been here for about a week or two & I am not having any luck meeting a SD.. Any advise?

    • Anonymous says:

      Filter out of you search, all men under 45, to avoid coffee dates and wasting time.

    • Anonymous says:

      Have pictures on your profile. Write something on your profile about who you are and what you are looking for. This already is a major start – it’s surprising how so many SBs have a profile with no picture and no text whatsoever and still expect to find SDs.

    • Anonymous says:


      There are a lot more real babies that real daddies, so you need to be clear on what you want and what you expect. Then you should look over daddies who have a similar expectations (in a broad range, just in case do 250 miles, you never know) and contact them. A real daddy always answers back politely, never is crude, always offers to pay travel no matter what happens, and is always concerned with your safety. Anything less and you are not likely getting a real Daddy. Also make sure your age range includes men in their upper forties, as the number of slim, attractive, rich, 20-somethings looking to spend 10k per month on a platonic relationship are pretty slim.

      • Tage says:

        Rich good looking guys in their 20s/30s usually don’t need to make “arrangements”…

        Guys in my age (60+) do… 🙂

  50. smile:) says:

    okay so I need to vent on here because this situation really upset me…..
    so A SD messaged me wanting an arrangement he had no pics so I asked him for one ( he emailed it to me) he was a little on the older side of SD’s I wasn’t attracted to him so I didn’t message back from that point on he kept messaging me… so taking a break from this story if I’m not attracted to a SD I’m not going to be intimate with you cause that obviously calls for a attraction so anyway back to the story ….. I told him that I didn’t think a arrangement will work with us I’m not what he was looking for so then he messaged me back and was like it will work trust me just text me so making a huge sigh I went ahead and texted him….Hey this is the lady from SA so the arrangement I’m looking for (changes depending on SD)is No sex just dinner lunch travel and so on( yes I know its a bit much but hey he wanted an arrangement with me and that was the only one I was willing to do) so he proceeded to text me mad saying I quote ” lmao!! Nice try my little naïve one!” did I care that he didn’t want the arrangement no cause I wasn’t really feeling it but why are you getting mad ?? cause I don’t want to sleep with you???!!! thoughts!?

    • anonymous says:

      You did the right thing in my opinion!! He seems like a creep…

    • Diamond says:

      Yeah he’s an idiot but it’s not a big deal. If you don’t want an arrangement with him just block him and move on

    • lynsky says:

      hey pal, fellow SB here (well not presently a SB, you know what I mean). the truth of the matter is, almost every guy on this site wants sex :/. I know it’s gross, especially because of how a lot of them look and how old some of them are, but that’s just how it is. almost all of them won’t be interested in spoiling you or giving you cash if you don’t suck them off every now and then. it’s really really rare that you find a SD that’ll respect it if you’re not attracted to him/don’t wanna fuck him and actually continue being interested. they wanna be treated like a king and that’s why they pay you… so it doesn’t really work if you straight up imply that they’re not sexy to you. I know it sucks, but that’s how it is :c. no easy way to make cash in this world, no matter how you look at it.

    • Anonymous says:

      What diamond says is correct. A real sugar daddy is polite, realizes there are plenty of fish in the sea, and discrete. If not then you are best clear of them anyway. While he is right what you list is an improbably connection, you listed it after he refused to take no, so I doubt he was any great shakes anyway.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      There’s a lot of truth to what lynsky is saying, but you laid it all out for him in the beginning…you told him that the arrangement that you were looking for was “No sex, just dinner, lunch, travel, and so on……”. Well then at that point it’s ON HIM to either accept it or reject it. But you did everything you were supposed to do. You put it all out there for him. Once you did that, the ball was in his court. He simply should have been as honest as you were. I’ve encountered a couple of SB’s who made it clear in our 1st conversation that they weren’t interested in having sex, I thanked them, we ended the conversation right then and there and that was that. No hard feelings. So long as you’re always straightforward and honest with your SD’s you’re carrying and conducting yourself exactly the way you should on here.

    • Anon says:

      Why join SA if you are only seeking hot young studs? They don’t need to be on SA. Yes, every guy wants sex. They want sex on POF, Match and Tinder too. Why do you expect financial assistance for nothing in return?

    • Natalie says:

      Also a fellow SB here. I’ve been off and on Seeking Arrangement for a few years, mostly off. If you are willing to be patient, the right SD will come along. The key here is allowing enough time to cultivate the right guy — that is assuming you can wait. I suppose I’ve been one of the lucky ones. The “undesireables” usually filter themselves out, though there are a few who somehow believe they can talk their way into a sexual arrangement through perseverence. I could tell a few stories. I agree with Lynsky that it isn’t easy since most SD prospects aren’t very appealing. But once in a while a good one comes along…

  51. yogabba says:

    Can someone checkout my profile.

  52. Anonymous says:

    Been on SA for quite some time. Just wondering if there are any SDs interested in SBs in Kenya and if there are any SDs from and in Kenya.

  53. Jessie Denton says:

    Girls/Guys you need to be careful!!!! do not recieve money from someone who wants you to send money back

    -i want to send you 3000$ and you keep 5004 (scam)
    -i need your login banking (scam)

    Please be careful for guys who give numbers and its not an actual mobile device text free google phone etc scams

  54. Anonymous says:

    I’m a little bit dissapointed by SA. Registred new profile, became premium, put some pics, and i have 0 visits on my profile since some days already.

  55. scb19 says:

    wow. the difference between the advice for daddies and babies is unbelievable. I suggest all babies read the advice for daddies. Also, ladies, please note that it says there are 10 babies for every daddy (keep in mind that many if not most daddies are salt). Also, there are two theorems I subscribe to:
    1) there is a direct relationship between the amount paid and the amount of time required of the sugar baby.
    2) there is an inverse relationship between the amount paid and the body type.
    just keep it real ladies…..I think many of you are missing out on a good thing with unrealistic expectations.

    • Anonymous says:

      Agreed, but please elaborate to educate beginner to little experience SD.
      1) $2,000 a month with 4-5 meetings per month, one sleep over. How many hours are realistic to expect to be together, including events, meals and bedroom time?
      2) Will $2,000 per month allowance is realistic for the SD to give for slim to average body women type or these command higher allowances?

  56. Anonymous says:

    wow. the difference between the advice for daddies and babies is unbelievable. I suggest all babies read the advice for daddies. Also, ladies, please note that it says there are 10 babies for every daddy (keep in mind that many if not most daddies are salt). Also, there are two theorems I subscribe to:
    1) there is a direct relationship between the amount paid and the amount of time required of the sugar baby.
    2) there is an inverse relationship between the amount paid and the body type.
    just keep it real ladies…..I think many of you are missing out on a good thing with unrealistic expectations.

  57. Anonymous says:

    If you “like” they guy – as you claim – why does it matter how many dates you grant him?
    If he gives you, say, 3k monthly. Why does it matter if you meet him once, twice, four times or six times? You like him – did I hear it right? You enjoy having sex with him. So…why you would rather get a 3k per date and brag about it, then see him 6 times a month?

  58. Anonymous says:

    I’ve been a SD on this site for a few months and seen a variety of SBs. Here’s what I personally look for in a SB, my do’s and don’t’s for your profile writeup:

    – Be descriptive and write at least a few lines of what you are looking for. You don’t need to write a novel, but if all you have is a single line, or worse, an empty profile, you’re not coming off as interesting.
    – Be positive and fun. SDs want someone who is fun to be around.
    – Use proper spelling and grammar!

    – Be negative. Comments about how your life is going badly, how you have been contacted by creeps, and so forth make you seem bitter. Yes, there are unpleasant people on this site. We know. We don’t want to hear about that. We want to hear about you. We also know you are not an escort, so you don’t have to say that on your profile.
    – Be overly demanding. If you want a lot from a SD, don’t list it in your writeup. A SD wants you to be interested in him as a person first. He knows why you are on this site and there is plenty of time to bring that subject up later.

    Remember that the numbers are in the SD’s favor, so they can afford to be picky.

  59. dee says:

    how do i create a profile picture?

  60. Anna says:

    How do we get money from an SD? do they put it in a PayPal or do they send checks or money orders? Im super new to this and was just curious

    • R R says:

      PayPal works. Pre-paid spending cards work. Cash ALWAYS works. But don’t give out financial or account info; anybody asking you for your bank or credit card info is probably trying to con you. Checks and money orders are risky; they can be canceled before you can deposit them and your bank collect.

    • Anonymous says:

      I see PayPal, checks, etc. mentioned very often here. This confuses me more than anything. I always give my allowance to a SB in cash – am I missing something here? It is the easiest and most trouble-free option by far.

      • R R says:

        I’ve used PayPal w/ women that I already have an on-going relationship with for monthly allowance or if she has a special need. It’s quite convenient for both of us.

    • DB Cooper says:

      I recommend kindly Uncle Ben (Franklin) as the easiest and most appreciated method of providing an allowance to my SB.

    • Anonymous says:

      It is not that complicated. I have given my SB a simple envelope, with cash in it, every two weeks. As we are enjoying dinner, and while we are talking, I discreetly pull the envelope and hand it over to her under the table as I sit at an angle across from her, and I can touch her. It works, it is discreet, and she just simply puts it in her purse. We do not even talk about it or discuss it in any way. It has worked for her and me no issues. I would recommend you to tell your SD to do it in this way.

    • anonymous says:

      No. They can reverse PayPal. Scammers do. Take your money in cash or by another method.

    • Ricco says:

      I put the cash in my car’s glovebox. When I pick up my Baby I tell her to look in there. No chance anyone will ever see the exchange.

  61. Anonymous Guy says:

    Yeah…….I would have to co-sign with the sentiment of Logic Is As Logic Does. Women on here are checking many different “Lifestyle expectations”………

    -Some of you are checking High.
    -Some of you are checking Negotiable.
    -Some of you are checking Practical.
    -Some of you are checking Minimal.

    There’s such a myriad of different expectations regarding what women are asking for on here that there’s no need to try and fit into somebody else’s little “box”. As I pointed out before, you have to do what works for YOU….not what works for some other woman, or what some “jealous” Sugar Daddy tells you “should” work for you. That is your decision and your decision alone. If you want $100 per meetup and an allowance of $2,000 a month or higher then just check “High” on Lifestyle Expectations and keep it moving. As I stated on here several times, I’ve talked to women on here who said that they expected $2,000 a month (or more), and you want to hear something crazy? A couple of women who said they wanted $2,000 a month or higher even confessed that THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A LONG WAIT. They were “willing” to wait for several months if need-be to meet a guy who could finance their expectations. There’s nothing wrong with that. They simply knew what they wanted and went after that…..and most importantly, they were HONEST about it. At the end of the day, as the hip hop mogul Russell Simmons says….”Do you”. Just be accurate with what you check and accurate with what you expect. If you expect $2,000-$5,000 a month or more then you should check “High”. If you expect $500-$1,500 you should check Negotiable. If you expect $500 down to about $200 you should probably check Practical. And if you expect $200 or less you should check Minimal.
    Just remember to be yourself and to be honest in laying out what you expect. Don’t tell a man you only want $400 a month, then try to turn around and ask him for another $500 3 or 4 days later after he just gave you $400. Don’t check Minimal when your expectation really fits in the category of Negotiable. Cause that right there is what gets you into trouble.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      I think I get what you mean.

      But, $200 monthly allowance??

      I think I could make that in a single day mowing grass.

      Anybody gotta lawnmower?

    • R R says:

      Two comments: One – the site uses the term “Lifestyle Expectation” advisedly. It doesn’t mean cash on the barrelhead. It means cash + gifts + travel + all other expenditures, i.e. the “all in” amount per month.

      Two – the site has quite different descriptions of “Lifestyle Expectation” than does “Anonymous Guy” above. To wit: Minimal is defined as up to $1000/mo., Practical – up to $3000, Moderate – up to $5000, Substantial – up to $10,000 and High – over $10,000. These numbers seem ridiculously over-stated vs. what is actually happening here. But SB expectations are fed by these figures that. The site would be wise to make these guidelines closer to what is actually happening.

      I’m sure certain cities/areas have different “scales,” as well, e.g Manhattan, Beverly Hills, Washington D.C.

      • Scar says:

        Washington, DC definitely lines up with SA’s scale. A lot of attractive SBs and well off SDs

      • Anonymous says:

        I completey agree with R R. The numbers here are quite over-stated in my opinion too, and do not seem to take into account any geographical area, socio-economic market, but just numbers. For instance, here in the Northern California area, I have been on a couple of arrangements, and the most I have offered has been $1,500 to $2,000 per month, and it is the most I can offer. I still have to take care of all the overhead. This is discretionary income. That is up to $24,000 tax-free that the SB is receiving. That figure is NOT a life changing allowance, nor is it meant to be, but it does work for some SB, and it does not for others. So a SB can really ask whatever they want, but if that figure is not available in her city, she either has to wait, sometimes a long time, or she has to come down in lifestyle expectations to what is actually available.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      Well grab a pair of overalls, a pair of lawn-gloves, a pair of tenny-shoes and a straw hat and get out there chasing that lawnmower. But don’t get mad at the women who choose not to mow grass and who are “satisfied” with a monthly allowance of $200. The fact that it doesn’t satisfy you isn’t “their fault”. Like I stated before, that’s a personal problem.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think you are as full of it as the 20k per month platonics.

      • Anonymous Guy says:


      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I’m going to take your use of satisfied in “quotation marks” to mean that those girls aren’t at all satisfied.

        Perhaps there are a few outliers, but if a girl who is satisfied with $200 per month isn’t satisfied with $0 per month, then I think it’s safe to assume that the girl needs the $200…that the $200 is going to make a difference in her life. If $200 per month makes or breaks someone’s livelihood, and they are willing to have an arrangement to secure that $200 per month, then that person is in dire need. Two hundred dollars per month is less than $7 per day. I don’t even think you can get a Ch1p0tle bowl with that. SeekingLunchMoney? That’s not satisfaction, it’s desperation, and you (being a man of means?) shouldnt be “satisfied” with that, you should be ashamed of yourself for exploiting it.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        No, I shouldn’t be ashamed of anything. Oh and be advised your so-called “expert analysis” was really stupid. By the way, I met the young lady that I’m currently seeing on SA and she does want ANY monthly allowance, even though I’ve offered her one several times. She told me since the day we met that the only thing she wants is for me to take care of her weekly manis, pedis, spa treatments and her monthly hair appointments. As long as I do that, take her out every now and then and spend quality time with her? She’s happy. I’m not seeing anybody other than her, and I definitely consider her a godsend the same way that I consider SA a godsend. Without this website I never would have met her. Want to hear the killing thing??……She abhors women with your mindset (she really does). She thinks of women who are looking for these exorbitant monthly allowances as gold-diggers, and in her opinion, those are the people on here “exploiting” people. So at the end of the day, you find what works for you on SA cause I’ve already found what works for me. One last thing, you can take your opinion and cramm it right down your lower digestive tract.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        ” That’s not satisfaction, it’s desperation, and you (being a man of means?) shouldnt be “satisfied” with that, you should be ashamed of yourself for exploiting it.”

        @YGTBKM He isn’t a man of means that’s the problem. If he were he wouldn’t spend so much time on here trying to spread his propaganda about how so many women are satisfied with less a d how the rest of the SBs who says differently “aren’t living in reality”

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        I’m sorry “does not want ANY monthly allowwance”……………

      • anonymous says:

        Lmao. This is called “spinning” the situation in your favor because you are greedy and heartless. Kudos, notes have been taken. You lose.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Oh my.

        What I actually said was, “Perhaps there are a few outliers, but if a girl who is satisfied with $200 per month isn’t satisfied with $0 per month, then I think it’s safe to assume that the girl needs the $200…”

        If your SB is satisfied with $0 per month, then my comment does not apply to her. K, grumps?

        You were promoting $200 per month allowance.

        Also, I’ve never promoted exorbitant allowances. I have been vocal about both men and women who try to rinse the other.

        While there are arguably things that one could abhor about me (I once told a man to stick his p3nis in a cup of packed sand), being a gold-digger isn’t one of them. But, I don’t mind cramming my comments down my lower digestive tract. I do, however, think it’d be more practical to cram them UP my lower digestive tract…shorter distance to the same place.

        Your godsend, by the way, is an outlier. I can assure you that there are not many women on this site lined up for zero dollar allowance, monthly manicure/pedicure arrangements. But kudos to you both for beating the odds. I’m glad that your lovely lady enjoys the luxury of having her nails done, hair done, e’rything done following an exhilarating spa treatment at Massage 3nvy.

        Life is good.

        I’m pretty sure, though, that those things are commonly practiced in many relationships. My cousin does those things for his girlfriend, and he makes $30k per year. If we are to apply your assertion, then even he should be able to create a profile, call himself a SD, and rake in the godsends. No?

        It is still my inexpert analysis that a man of means offering $200 monthly allowance is taking advantage of those in the most vulnerable positions of need. Call me what want.

        By the way…am trying to cram these comments up my lower digestive tract, but they just won’t fit. Suggestions?

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        You can always try putting the comments in an enema bottle and squeezing them up your tract that way. Hope that helps. In the meantime in between time, I’ll be the 1st to wholeheartedly agree that the young lady I’m seeing who is completely satisfied with me taking care of her manis, pedis, spa treatments and hair appointments is “the exception” and not “the rule” on here, but I will also so far as to say that men who can afford to give a woman $3,000 a month for an allowance throughout our great American Society are ALSO “the exception” and not “the rule”…..STATISTICALLY they are. Most men throughout our society in this country are just like me and can usually afford to give up to $1,000 a month

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        Men who can regularly afford to give $3,000 a month OR MORE long term?? Like for a year or two?? That’s about 2-3% of the men in this country. That’s why when they had a previous message-board discussion on here with a lot of SB’s complaining about “Flaky SD’s making promises that they weren’t keeping” I wasn’t even slightly surprised at the stories. There were quite a few women on here complainiong about men who were scheduling dates with them and cancelling. Want to know what I think is happening out here? It’s a lot of men LYING regarding what they “can” and “cannot” afford to give a Sugar Baby. A lot of these men can afford to eeek-out one $3,000 payment for one month, which gives them 30 days to “tap that ass” and be OUT. Every now and then you may find a guy who can eeek-out two or three $3,000 payments before his bank account dries up. THAT’S HOW THE GAME IS BEING PLAYED OUT HERE. So when I saw all these women complaining about Sugar Daddies making promises that weren’t being delivered, I don’t know about you but I WASN’T SHOCKED. The guys who are saying that they can afford to give $1,000 or less?? Guys like me?? Those are the guys that are just telling THE TRUTH. Many of y’all just don’t want to hear the truth. But when you measure out the “statistics” of what men are earning in this country?? The guys who can afford to give $1,000 or less or month make up the vast majority in the U.S. That’s a statistical FACT.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:


        And that’s why the vast (average) majority of the guys in America are called boyfriends or husbands not sugar daddies.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      Yeah, I hadn’t read any “guide” or “description” from the website regarding amounts for each level….High…..Substantial…..Negotiable…..Practical…..Minimal. I was just coming “off the top of my head” and guessing when I typed up those amounts. Oh and I agree with you wholeheartedly that if that’s the description of the amounts laid out by the website that they are ridiculously overstated when contrasted with reality……at least that’s what a number of Sugar Babies have told me. Like I said, when I’ve talked to several Sugar Babies I have “consistently” been told that waiting on a man to give you $3,000 a month or higher IS A LONNNNNNNNNNNNG WAIT. And I have also talked to several who have told me that they lowered their asking allowance because they got tired of waiting. There’s the “fantasy” being laid out by a number of SB’s and SD’s on here……..then there’s that pesky and stubborn thing called “reality”. All I can tell y’all is that “reality” is a muthaf-cka. Haha. 🙂

    • agrees w/ YGTBKM says:

      Well, that dried me up. That would turn anyone platonic, i.e. once a month platonic meet at that. I’m glad I don’t run into this. I would be pissed to meet this guy for dinner to then learn that he is only a SD wannabe.

      I hope fakes like this include their expectation in their profile.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        Yeah fuck you too……What I’m doing is working quite well and I’ll not be leaving this website anytime soon. SA has been a godsend as far as I’m concerned.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Of course they don’t put it in their profiles. They mark “negotiable” then come here to complain and call the SBs delusional because the SBs don’t want to f*ck for food.


        I, too, am glad I don’t run across this type.

      • agrees w/ YGTBKM says:

        To Anonymous Guy at (September 28, 2016 at 7:07 am)
        Is it now; then why are you soooooo angry???

        I didn’t ask you to leave the website; we need someone to make an example of, eh. Laughing at you, because if it were working so well for you, you’d keep your trap shut so nobody would steel broomhilda from you.
        Now ride your bike down to the store and spend your sweeties lunch money on something to take that itch away, so you calm down a bit. OR, come back here after an orgasm so you’re easier to tolerate.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        Don’t try to twist my words and don’t try to twist me. I simply answered your insult with an insult. There’s no way that somebody sitting behind a computer screen can upset me. You don’t hold enough relevance in my life to upset me. Don’t “overestimate” your opinion and definitely don’t overestimate yourself. It’s not healthy.

    • Anonymous says:

      What state are you in AG?

    • Wertie says:

      2000 month check high? Do you mean practical? Practical is up to 3000 a month. High is more than 10000 a month.

  62. sofitopy says:

    those that won’t give you 100-200 $ before the arrangement (meeting) are not serious and usually poor and penniless, just want to seduce you with their bull and test you free of charge, beware

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      And for all you SD’s and SB’s, whenever you encounter somebody who views this website as being for the purpose that “they” see it for only, you should avoid people like that the same way you avoid death, HIV and Donald Trump.

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s an awful broad brush you have there. I’m sure if a guy came on here saying that any girl who doesn’t give a “preview” of her bedroom skills is not serious, and is most likely a scam artist, you would be first in line to object. Maybe it’s not the SD’s. It could be your attitude that is the problem.

    • Uh huh sure says:

      That’s an awful broad brush you have there. I’m sure if a guy showed up here, saying that any girl who doesn’t offer a “preview” of her bedroom skills is not serious, and is most likely a scam artist, you would be first in line screaming bloody murder. While I won’t deny there are guys on here who are scumbags, maybe a big part of your problem in finding the real SD’s, is your attitude.

    • Anonymous says:

      The reason the SD will not give the gift up frount is to many girls do not show after they have the cash in hand.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        Right on-point Anonymous.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Up front” is intended to mean at the beginning of the INTIMATE date or any time during the date. Just not AFTER the fun.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        Oh don’t get it twisted up, I’ll definitely take an SB out on a date where of course I’m “treating”….But as far as an allowance? With me that is never given before intimacy. I have simply found it better to do it that way. Once you get burned you develop a policy where “both of you” get what you want. Once I get what I want? She’ll DEFINITELY get what she wants. Never give up the allowance “before” intimacy is my personal policy…..particularly before you & her have been intimate for the 1st time.

      • Anonymous says:

        The envelope has always been offered before disrobing.
        Sometimes it’s at dinner before driving to the hotel, sometimes it’s in the room. But never disrobe before receiving sugar. There are just too many instances of rape and women being taken advantage of to trust.

        Accepting it afterwards is best kept for you’ve been together a few months and have established trust. Trust me ladies, or you could end up at the police station explaining what happened.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        Well I’ve always given the allowance “after” intimacy only and none of my Sugar Babies have had to cry rape. And the Sugar Babies that I’ve been intimate with didn’t have a problem with that….There was only 1 who complained about my policy, but according to her, intimacy was only a “slim possibility” for her in dating on this site. So you know what that means….she had no plans to be intimate regardless.

    • Anonymous says:

      Why am I giving any money, allowance or “gifts” beforehand? before we meet or at our initial meet and greet? Chances are the SB is having a nice meal and both parties have an interest at stake to see if things work. What am I, SD, getting from the SB? That’s right, an opportunity to meet. This entitled bring me a gift insistent crap is a turn off. I respect you wanting a gift beforehand and I say no. And the dunce who says I can’t afford or won’t shell out 100 or 200 to meet makes me penniless or poor pisses me off. Assumptions are also what makes SB gunshy and hesitant because people like you have planted in their minds money for nothing.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lol I totally agree with you. I have experienced such before, and that’s my test for a true real sugar daddy.

      • Scar says:

        Totally agree. I’ve had my fair share, from leaving before the meal is done after the gift, to disappearing after the first encounter with a month’s allowance but never dissuaded me and always had positive thoughts about the experience. Just manage your exposure and your ability to sense the risk with your read on SBs. Now I’m in ideal situation where there’s truly more symbiosis and quite a forgiving arrangement (i.e., weekly vs monthly, she had to skip at the last min, i had to fly out at the last min.)

    • Anonymous says:

      SBs like you immediately go into my trash file. The most important thing in arrangements for me is that both SD and SB enjoy each other’s company and have fun. A potential SB who demands something like that is clearly in it only for the material benefits. It sends a clear signal that the company part is only a necessary evil she tolerates, not something she wants to enjoy.

      Do you seriously believe that a potential SD who sets up a first meeting in an upscale restaurant and spends way more than that $200 on just a lunch is poor and penniless? Fine, if you want that $200 so much, I’ll give it to you but our first meeting is at McDonalds.

    • D_Anon says:

      Just another SB to report. Asking for funds before a meet is not only against my policy, but the site’s as well. NEXT!

    • BJG says:

      Or that don’t want to be rinsed by serial daters with no intention of taking it further. Never give sugar until the panties hit the floor

    • urbanchristy says:

      So before an encounter ask for a deposit?

  63. Linds says:

    I’m trying to find an SD because my actual Dad is a narcissistic ass. I’ve never done anything like this and I need some advice. I am smart and doing well in school, and I plan on being an accountant. I would give anything to not have to be tied down to my dad. What should I do?

    • sd with open eyes says:

      You should NOT do sugar. If you are “smart” and “doing well in school” then you should get your accounting degree and get a job. Then you will be able to distance yourself from your dad. Sugar money is NOT going to be reliable and will likely leave you with no way to pay for your education.

    • Rick says:

      If you need help with bills, or you’re looking for an older man to be a surrogate Dad/mentor, then an arrangement could be fine. Just remember to keep up with school, and treat it as an outside fun activity. But don’t get dependent on it.

  64. Logic is a s Logic Does says:

    Being honest with yourself is the first step to being honest about your expectations. ? What is the purpose of this site? To find you Soul mate or to enjoy what life has to offer in whatever shape, form, or fashion. Remember say what You mean and mean what You say. Believe it or not it’s easier to deal with a person being real with You than one putting up a persona.

  65. Alves says:

    Hi, SB here, I was on the site for a couple months and last week I freaked out because of the messages of a guy sent me and deleted my account. Last thursday I open it again, I received the email saying my account was approved but I’m unable to access the account, actually the site does not work at all for me, it just says “page not found”. I already contacted costumer service but no answer yet. Anyone knows what happened? You can access the site normally? Thank you

  66. Anonomnomnom says:

    Something else that bugs me. I’ll will be talked to for months by SDs. “Hey, how’s your search ? Just seeing how you’re doing. Here’s a new pic of my dog.”
    Months of casual conversation. Like, we aren’t friends. WTF. Women take so much emotional work that’s never compensated. Ugh.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with you. Men seem to go on and on and on with endless chatter. Or they say they will be in town and then you never hear from them till months later. What is the point of it all?
      In my experience, if you don’t “close the deal” within a reasonable amount of time, everyone seems to get distracted. SD’s think the grass is always greener on the other side, but when they find out it isn’t and then contact the SB again, she is just no longer interested, as she has moved on as well.

      • Anon SB says:

        I agree. I had an SD cancel on meeting me when he found out I model although it isn’t a secret. We had had plans for dinner. Okay. Fine, flaky though. Then a few months later texts me out of the blue as he’s still looking. That is nice. I am no longer interested. He got nasty with me because I did not want to meet.

  67. Ashleth says:

    So, is this a common experience here? ‘cuz if so, I don’t think I’ll have much motivation to use this site. I just opened my account like last night.
    Him: You have an amazing smile, nice teeth, and you look smart in glasses. …Give me your number and I’ll call you.
    Me: I’ll be back on later tonight. We can talk then.
    Him: I can already tell that you aren’t ready for an arrangement with an Older Guy like myself.
    Me: I’m not ready because I don’t just give my phone number to someone I don’t know? Or is it because I have things to do and haven’t dropped everything to call you simply because you suggested it?
    Him: I’ve been in this lifestyle for a while and can clearly see the small but tall-tail signs of a person’s ability to be reliable or not. There’re plenty of elementary level guys on here that don’t even look at the things i do, they simply want a “transaction” and you will soon figure that out.
    Me: The problem is that your point of view is skewed. You equate reliability to desperation and I’m definitely not the latter. You also talk about other guys wanting simple transactions when all I’ve got from you is a high-pressure sale.
    Him: You’re an idiot. *blocks me*
    Um, what the?

    • sam says:

      You just got an ass! There are nice guys trying to find the best fit. So sorry and be careful.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      He probably shouldn’t have come back at you that way after you refused to exchange numbers. But I too am not willing to go back-n-forth over e-mail. I think that your “fear” is that he may turn out to be a little bit obssessive and may end up calling you every other hour……that he may turn out to just be a pest. Understand that that’s very rare. And at the end of the day, if he does turn out to be obssessive and too pressed to get together for your liking, simply go into your smartphone and block his number. That solves that problem. But I definitely agree with not having lengthy e-mail conversations. I too will cut an SB off if she refuses to talk on the phone.

    • Rick says:

      This guy was a jerk, and you were fortunate to find out right away.

      “Me: I’ll be back on later tonight. We can talk then.” is a perfectly fine response. You have a life, but are being polite and willing to chat later. I agree that numerous back and forth e-mails gets old, but a few shouldn’t be a problem for anyone who is serious.

  68. Anonymous says:

    So, is this a common experience here? ‘cuz if so, I don’t think I’ll have much motivation to use this site.
    Him: You have an amazing smile, nice teeth, and you look smart in glasses. By the way, i’m … Give me your number and I’ll call you.
    Me: I’ll be back on later tonight. We can talk then.
    Him: I can already tell that you aren’t ready for an arrangement with an Older Guy like myself.
    Me: I’m not ready because I don’t just give my phone number to someone I don’t know? Or is it because I have things to do and haven’t dropped everything to call you simply because you suggested it?
    Him: I’ve been in this lifestyle for a while and can clearly see the small but tall-tail signs of a person’s ability to be reliable or not. There’re plenty of elementary level guys on here that don’t even look at the things i do, they simply want a “transaction” and you will soon figure that out.
    Me: The problem is that your point of view is skewed. You equate reliability to desperation and I’m definitely not the latter. You also talk about other guys wanting simple transactions when all I’ve got from you is a high-pressure sale.
    Him: You’re an idiot. *blocks me*
    Um, what the?

  69. Anonymous Guy says:

    Yeah….mrdiscretion’s comment illustrates exactly what I’m talking about. Guys like him have an aristocratic, exclusionary mindset and simply can’t stand that even middle-class guys on here are getting pu$$y just like the rich guys. Number of rich guys are on here “hating”. I’ve met a number of women on here who aren’t looking for a “rich” guy, just somebody to take care of a nice little monthly allowance, to take them out on a regular basis, and to take care of their weekly manis, pedis, spa treatments and hair appointments. That’s the whole point of figuring out what works “for you” and not allowing anybody to influence what you decide upon in any way, shape or form. What people like mrdiscretion don’t understand is that there’s a number of women that come on here that are not gold-diggers….in fact, some women on here sincerely abhor gold-digging women. Like I said ladies, you figure out what you want and don’t allow anybody to influence you in any way.

    • mrdiscretion says:

      i grew up in a house with missing windows, last thing i am is aristocratic. did not mean to sound exclusionary

      i should have prefaced my notes for girls that are going in as a traditional sugar baby meaning they are here for money. there are a lot that aren’t just here for money, certainly.

      but still, getting stiffed when a girl needs rent money and being taken advantage because he never had the cash, i think means the precautions are worthwhile mostly

      good luck man, i did not mean to sound like you shouldn’t be on here. i have been as broke as anyone possibly could be, i do not come from anywhere uppity

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      Okay, my mistake. Shouldn’t have lumped you in with other rich guys on here who talk like they really don’t want other men on here who aren’t giving women the same substantial monthly allowances that they are. Do ya thang Playboy.

  70. mrdiscretion says:

    tips, guys may disagree but oh well

    1 get money to meet. if a guy will spend an hour of his time screening you but won’t give you $100, HE IS NOT RICH. a rich man’s time is worth 5-10x that so it is truly just a gesture.

    2 meet in public, don’t get drunk, see money first. how many stories of girls getting borderline raped, getting stiffed on money, getting threatened by guys claiming to be cops have i heard? way more than i’d have thought. take it slow.

    3 if you get an offer for an evening, counter offer. if i say $500 then yeah i’ll pay $550 or $600 no sweat. i’m climbing the walls by the time we discuss the arrangement, so you should press the advantage in my opinion.

    4 keep your life separate, keep your face pics in private. i save pics, i am sure others do. at least in private you can control who sees them. you have a long life ahead. don’t meet in your home.

    anyway just my opinions, i have used the site heavily. truly a fantasy brought to life at its best, pretty low-rent and depressing at its worst

    • Anonymous says:

      Good insight overall. I disagree on first meet “having to” give allowance or portion to “prove I’m rich.” Can I bring a 2 inch stack of hundreds and show her this is what’s possible?!! Why do you think I am rich? Because I know how and when to invest, spend, and save. A woman who demands an allowance on first meet which is coffee, drinks, or dinner has already tried to elevate herself to the level of superiority. Leaves a bad feeling. The initial M & G is a 2 sided affair, each person deciding what to do next. In my opinion it doesn’t prove a thing ( that I’m a rich SD )to give $500 for a first M & G if that’s all the money I have in the world and hoping to score that night.

      • mrdiscretion says:

        just my opinion, i stand by it though. the girls are generally (generally, not everyone i know) on here for money i just think it’s a decent gesture. also i don’t totally dress wealthy so maybe i need it. to each their own 🙂

    • Anonymous says:

      thankyou for the help!

    • Anonymous says:

      Any advice for new SDs?

      • Anonymous says:

        Be patient, screen well, watch for red flags. Don’t chase. Responsible timely communication is important and get things moving from SA messages to private email text nd phone conversation. Talking on the phone provides trust, is faster, and should establish or eliminate the beginnings of a connection. Why meet someone that you had a hard time conversing with? Move it along from first message to setting up the date. Details and allowance are better talked about, over the phone or in person.

      • mrdiscretion says:

        don’t get addicted 🙂

        i think best approach is an easy m&g (i think with money, others disagree) and just be up front about what you’re hoping for. i meet infrequently so i don’t want to give a girl the impression i will be spending thousands a month

        also keep as much personal info as possible to yourself. i’ve been surprised the lengths people will go to find crap out about you.

        otherwise have fun

    • Anonymous says:

      As someone who actually does pay out thousands of dollars on sugar every month, I disagree with your advice on “get money to meet.” Although I do usually surprise the candidate with a monetary gift for her time and compliance/compatibility (platonic and no touching but showing signs of willing to indulge my wishes, instead of the argumentativeness that we usually enjoy online), any demand for fee to meet ahead of time (aside from gas and travel expense) would be an automatic next. The reason? Screening out the rinsers. $100 is not much to an SD, but $50/hr after-tax for two hours at a time is likely better than most legit jobs open to SB’s; WYP is full of girls who want to be paid just for showing up, there is no reason to turn SA into another WYP.

      I don’t make “for the evening” offers; all offers from me are made on monthly basis, even if payments are made in installments. It’s not possible to hide one’s identity in long term SR’s.

  71. Anonymous says:

    I’m confused, why does my profile say standard sugar mommy? If I’d like to be a SB? Also… do I have to upgrade my account? Is that a new thing? Because I can’t read any of the messages but my account has already been approved. Thanks -S

  72. NEWBIEE says:


  73. Anonymous Guy says:

    Oh one other thing for you ladies to always keep in mind……I’ve been out on a few dates with more than one Sugar Baby who revealed to me that they had met Sugar Daddies in the past where they went over to his house for their 1st face-to-face meetup. Bad idea ladies……..really really bad idea. You don’t know these men from Adam, you don’t know if they have a criminal record, and if they have a criminal record, what were they convicted of?? A guy who has a couple of misdemeanors on his record for speeding tickets or for disorderly conduct when he was age 20 is one thing…..but are you going over to the house of a guy who is a convicted felon?? My suggestion is this…….when you meet a Sugar Daddy you want to get his 1st and last name the exact city where he resides, and once you get it, you should then go onto a website and run a background check on him and see what comes up. Those background check websites are outstanding at letting you know exactly what’s on his record. As a Sugar Daddy I always do that. Have I encountered any Sugar Babies who were convicted felons? Thankfully no. But I always run the background check anyway……just in case. In the meantime, you should let each & every guy you meet on here know that you NEVER come to his house for the 1st meetup. You should meet in a public place for “at least” the 1st date, and probably for the 2nd date as well. After about 1-3 dates, combined with a solid background check you should then have spent enough time with him to know whether or not he’s okay to spend “alone time” with. Hope that helps.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Hmmm…an excerpt worth considering:

      “A Globe review of Massachusetts court system statistics on 305 rape convictions in the 12-year period that concluded at the end of June 2013 found that in 42 cases, or about 14 percent of the time, defendants received no prison time.

      They included two defendants who had a record of either “repetitive” or “violent” convictions, and three had a “serious record.” Seven had a “moderate record” of convictions, while 30 had either never been convicted of a crime or had been convicted of what the court system considered minor offenses. The figures come from annual reports by the Executive Office of the Trial Court.”

      So…30 out of 42 did not have a prior record or had a minor record (could be traffic or littering, even). Thats ~71%.

      My take-away is, common sense and diligence in self-preservation are more likely to be better judge of character and risk-factor than a background check.

      Once knew a guy who had walls of accolades and a squeaky clean record quite possibly due to loopholes, who he was, and who he knew. Quickly rid myself of him early on when he started exhibiting signs of verbal, emotional and financial abuse…which I imagine plagued his previous relationships.

      That sort of thing is the scariest, in my opinion…the subliminal risks. Men like that have a tendency to turn vengeful and vindictive..the type to try to ruin your life just because they are in position to do so, and they’d have their “clean image” on their side. If I get a single air of this from a man with whom Im corresponding, I find a quick and amicable way (because they also have a tendency to turn ruthless with rejection) to part ways.

      Sure, I use the internet to my advantage in feeling safe going into a situation, but common sense and intuition are things that arent built into a background check.

    • Anonymous Guy says:

      Well thank you darling, I appreciate it.

    • eye says:

      Correct, do not meet potential SD at his home. Best to keep first date venue INSIDE the restaurant.

      I do like your idea of getting potential SD complete name. Curious how many of you SB have done this. I have had a few potential SD offer this info. Nice to be able to reassure yourself with the knowledge you can glean about him before the date. Those situations have the greatest potential for success.

      I rarely however, required a real name before meeting. I’m not willing to share the information, so out of fairness I rarely push for it.

      Also curious how many SD require real name exchange before meeting, and how many have offered this information.

      I don’t think it’s common. Please correct me if I am wrong.

  74. Anonymous Guy says:

    Here’s something for you ladies to always keep in mind…….Set your own amount that you want for a monthly allowance and don’t allow anyone’s opinion on this site to influence it. I’ve met many women on here who wanted many various amounts, some high, and some surprisingly low……I’ve encountered women who wanted $3,000 a month for an allowance…..I’ve encountered women who wanted $1,500 a month for an allowance……I’ve encountered women who wanted $500 a month for an allowance…..I’ve encountered women who wanted $200 a month for an allowance….and while I’ll admit that it’s rare, I’ve even encountered a couple of women on here who wanted NO allowance, they just simply wanted to spend time in the presence of an older “more mature” man. At the end of the day it’s up to YOU to figure out what you want, and don’t be deterred by anybody telling you that they would never accept an amount like that and “here’s what you should be asking for”. Listening to other women’s opinions on this site is no different than listening to other women’s opinions when you’re married or in a relationship. A lot of “single” women remain single for a reason…..and in a number of cases, the only place their advice will take you is to Singleville where they live, and where you DON’T want to be. Be careful of taking a lot of women’s advice on here, that $–t will get you in trouble.

    • Anonymous says:

      Except that some set crazy allowances based on what they’ve heard or read.

      In reality, $2,000 a month would make a huge difference in the quality of life for 95 percent of the women on here. I want to help with rent, car, tuition, and reasonable clothes. Giving money so you can buy LV or go serious clubbing, not so much.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        I can understand that. My whole thing is no matter how low an amount a woman may be asking for, even if she only wants $200 a month to not allow herself to be influenced by women (or men) on here telling her “I would never accept an allowance that low”. If she reads a woman’s or man’s comment like that, but $200 a month satisfies her then she should stick to what she feels works for her…..not be influenced by what people “think” you should be asking for. There’s a wide range of what women on here are asking for and there’s no “set” amount that is required. It is up to that particular woman to decide what she wants.

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree. I have found that $1,500 to $2,000 per month allowance works here in the Northern California. It is not a life-changing allowance, for that the SB needs to go to findingamillionarie.com, but here in SA, I believe there is a wider market as to what kind of arrangements are possible, and there is more flexibility.

      • Anonymous says:

        ….for once a week perhaps, depends on connection/relationship particulars.

        I agree about money for LV or clubbing; doesn’t interest me. I’m very responsible and paid for most of my education from my investments. Even the school loan I did obtain was due to the low interest rate, i.e. cheaper money. Although this loan will be paid back rather quick, relatively speaking, I’d prefer to tunnel allowance to that to zero out my debt to income ratio.

        My agreed allowance is based on current/past experience, not rumored fantasy, as you imply of other SB. I think many wannabe SDs wish some high expectations were fantasy; not all are.

    • T says:

      Clever way to “talk down” the bidding, Anonymous Guy. This site is called Seeking Arrangement for a reason; it’s not called Seeking Love and it’s not called Seeking Cheap

      • Anonymous says:

        …and it’s not called Seeking Very Cheap Hooker.

      • Anonymous Guy says:

        It’s also not called “Seeking What Everybody Else Is Seeking”. I know it makes you mad that you’ve been getting “taken”, but that’s a personal problem. I’ll do my thing my way, you do your thing your way. Like I said wayyyyyy up at the top, me and several other middle-class guys are on here getting pu$$y just like all of the affluent guys. So apparently, what we middle-class men are seeking is readily available on Seeking Arrangement. You’ll figure it out one of these days.

  75. LenaRussian says:

    To SBs: if you’ve started exchanging messages with a potential SD, suggested to meet for a coffee to gauge expectations/compatibility while not expecting/asking for any sort of gift for that meeting and they seem wishy/washy, keep messaging while not committing to that meeting, they are NOT serious, often don’t have any money to be a SD and are on this site because they are bored and are looking to entertain themselves online via endless messaging.
    Sve yourself time and frustration, block them and move on. While you are wasting your time with these types you might be missing out on a amazing SD.

  76. sd with open eyes says:

    Tip for Sugar babies:

    If you see a profile that you are interested in then you should sent the sugar daddy a personalized message.

    If you just look at the profile and do not send a message then the sugar daddy will not write you.

    If you favorite a profile and do not write a message the the sugar daddy will not write you.

    If you write a sugar daddy a message and say you liked their profile and you did not bother to look at it then the sugar daddy will block you.

    The only thing that will ever get you respect (besides near nude profile pics) is to read the sugar daddy’s profile, confirm that he is looking for you, and write a message to the sugar daddy with details from his profile (as opposed to generic text that you copy and pasted from some blog post).

  77. Artful Dodger says:

    I had a heated discussion with a friend who is on this site. I was contacted by a potential SB. We tested set a lunch and then she said “you are bringing an allowance for me?” I called it off. I always give a gift after the meet and greet, but I find it distasteful that a SB asks before meeting. I see it as the equivalent of me asking for sex before meeting, just poor etiquette. My friend disagreed and said she asks for money before meeting so she isn’t wasting her time because so many guys lie about their income. I’ve had a few successful arrangements and I’m not extravagant, but not cheap either. The place I suggested we meet is a very upscale restaurant. Like I mentioned, I give a gift after especially if the arrangement isn’t going anywhere. My feeling is SB have to take some risk to find a quality guy. SD do. There doesn’t seem to be a lack of SB interest so don’t make us feel like an ATM from the start and you might be rewarded.

    • D_Anon says:

      I’m with you. Anyone asking for an allowance up-front is immediately blocked and reported. The site FAQ actually states that such behavior (i.e., full or partial $$ up front) should be reported.

      • Anonymous says:

        Link to this?

      • D_Anon says:

        It’s under general safety information: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/help/safe/

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I agree with your decision to pass on the date, Artful.

        Tactless, indeed, to ask for money up front for a meet and greet.

        Have had men tell me they would gift money at the meet (and follow through), but I don’t find it appropriate to ask, and I don’t expect it.

        For some, it’s a better use of their time and money to offer a gift up front (or later), meet at a coffee shop for 30 minutes, and–in the worst case–part ways cordially with little cost and no damage, than to spend and hour and a half and $100+ at dinner with someone they turn out to not like, and who may not respond well to rejection.

        I think your approach to gifting demonstrates a modest gesture…A token of interest and appreciation for the girl you’d like to see again, and a token of appreciation and good riddance (without hatemail, blackmail or slashed tires) for the girl you wish well, but do not wish to see again. Smart man 🙂

      • Artful Dodger says:

        Funny because my friend who is a SB sad that on the SB side it says they should ask for a gift up front to make sure that the potential SD is serious.

  78. Anonomnomnom says:

    ever think black women have attitudes because people keep assuming we have attitudes?

    no SD really wants intelligent women or strong willed women or even grown women. they want fleshy sex dolls at a discounted price that at the same time bares the emotional weight of SDs.

  79. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Am starving. Feed me, Daddy.

  80. Chris says:

    Noonw..I mean noone answers back.. 🙁
    Maybe I am too honest who knows

  81. Anonymous says:

    Exactly! Most women here just want money for luxury items such as makeup and/or vacations, but they definitely aren’t starving.

  82. @ realistic says:

    You mistakenly assume all the women on this site are poor, which just isn’t true.

  83. Lainey says:

    @Realistic do these men still consider themselves independent although they seek sex and companionship because you can’t really do that alone now can ya?

  84. Anonymous says:

    How do you get gay SD to message you back?

  85. Bkeep says:

    What is the best opening when starting a conversation with a SD?

    • FedUpAnon says:

      I love kinky sex.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why, do you think all SD’s are perverted in their nature?

      • FedUpAnon says:

        It’s an interesting icebreaker that you do it illegally.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        why does interest in kinky sex = perversion?


        Can you clarify 09:53?


        I would not suggest you use FedUp’s recommendation.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hey FEDUPANON. You seem to leave a lot of chauvinistic and perverted posts/messages on here. What’s your deal? Are you that frustrated? Are you that angry of a man? If so, maybe get off of this site.

    • anon says:

      Simply ask how they are and if they’re still seeking. It’s a great way to start a conversation as well as see if they’re available.

    • D_Anon says:

      Other than being friendly and containing good grammar, your initial message to a potential SD should make it clear that you have actually read their profile by referencing something in said profile (i.e., not “hey I like your profile”, more along the lines of “like yourself, I’m a dog person as well”). To me there’s nothing more frustrating than having a SB reach out to me and figuring out within a few messages that our interests clearly don’t align.

  86. Wtf! says:

    What s up with all these platonic sb ?.. Do you REALLY think a man will spend time and money on you for a platonic

    • FedUpAnon says:

      They are very successful according to the girls pmsl.

    • sb says:

      sb here.
      I expect that platonic bs from young college girls. The real question is, Why are so many men wanting platonic?!?

      They treat this like a regular dating site. Beyond the meet and greet, dates will cost you whether we’re intimate or not. Time is money. Want a girlfriend; go back to POF and the marriage mongers.

      • Anonymous says:

        EXACTLY. SB’s expecting “free” $, or SD’s expecting “free” sex, are on the wrong site.

      • EighteenYearOldSb says:

        I think that “young college girls” are the most willing to have a non-platonic arrangement. Well, at least in my case. Maybe you’d have been better suited writing “virgin college girls”. My roommate is a virgin and wanting to be a sb, but has it in her mind that she can do so while maintaining her virginity xD

  87. The Islander says:

    then what do you want? Because it seems whether we’re dainty or have strong personalities it’s always an issue.

  88. Realistic says:

    Come on ladies. You can’t call yourself an “independent woman” if you’re on a website seeking mentoring and financial assistance. Lets be real here.

  89. Anonymous says:

    Ok gentlemen, I’m new to this so some of you wrote about misrepresentation, what kind of picture do you think I should put on my new profile? Since I don’t want to mislead anyone I have one in a bikini on the ocean but it’s from 5 years ago (I pretty much looks the same). I have other pictures of me fully dressed but since I studied and worked in a conventional field I don’t want my face to be in the open. What can I do to show you my awesomeness ;). Bisous

    • Anonymous says:

      With today’s technology at your fingertips (smart phone camera), there should not be a problem taking selfie pictures at all. One picture should be your face, another maybe 3/4 and one more full body, that is the basic dynamic on pictures. If you have and want to put more, the better, if you have some pictures, like the bikini one, but you only want to share those with the SDs you are interested, upload them as private and share them that way. You can blur your face for the public pictures and use the regular pictures, no face blurred, on the private ones.

  90. Jason says:

    SB should list at least the surrounding town they are in and don’t post those photos with the cartoon dog faces, it’s not attractive. Smile for the camera.

  91. Chase L says:

    SB’S PLEASE NOTE: No healthy man alive wants to “cuddle” with a hot woman.

    SB’s, If an SD is okay with a platonic sugar baby he is almost certainly (99.99%) impotent. Thus, if you have the term “platonic” in your description, you are trying to find a virtual needle in a haystack. Again, no healthy man alive wants to “cuddle” with a hot woman. Please strongly consider deleting your profile and joining a site like cantgetitup dot com.

    SB’s, if an SD wants pics or videos, please note this is the internet here and there are virtually millions of pics and videos posted on here for free for all to see. If you are on here selling pics and videos, please delete your profile and join findmearealdummy dot com.

    SB’s, very few wealthy men need to pay for arm candy or companions. 99.99% of the SD’s on here are on here for “mutual benefit”. Again…No healthy man alive wants to “cuddle” with a hot woman.

  92. Anonymous says:

    I think it is a great basic article, but it is leaving a lot out of necessary information for the SB newbie. I would like to elaborate, but not sure if it is even wanted.
    1. A SB has to define, clearly, what she wants and what she offers.
    2. Allowance amount is dependent on geographical area, personality, and looks be realistic.
    3. Avoid entitled princess syndrome. Avoid attitude.
    4. Communicate, Discuss what you bring to the table and what you ask for.
    5. Listen to the SD for what he is looking for and what he offers. Remain open minded. Would you rather have two years SR with Minimal to Practical lifestyle with a SD you click or would you prefer to remain arrangementless for the same two years or who knows how long because you can only accept Moderate and above?
    5. Have recent pictures. Do not misrepresent yourself.
    6. Do not deceive or lie. Demand the same courtesy.

    • VA Gent says:

      As an addendum to #1, if your goal is to truly have a platonic or online relationship only, say so clearly and save hassle and embarrassment for all concerned.

  93. Anonymous says:

    Really? No…like REALLY?

  94. Anonymous says:

    I have a question. Should sugar babies do more of the pursuing, or should the sugar patron message us saying they’re interested?

  95. Anonymous says:

    Hello guys! Why isn’t anyone here to take my spot and place me on the 2nd one by commenting ‘first’? What is happening to this world??